| --- Log opened Sun Jul 01 00:00:51 2012 |
| 00:04 | < Carbonbass> | hello guys |
| 00:11 | < afny> | o/ |
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| 01:26 | < afny> | Morning Soren |
| 01:38 | < Carbonbass> | Your demo kit looks great Afny |
| 01:40 | < afny> | thanks |
| 01:40 | < afny> | I'm hunting for hinge pieces for it right now for a big enough ruler |
| 01:41 | < Carbonbass> | Ruler needs what, 8? Since Arty is anything past 8 |
| 01:42 | < afny> | the standard is 8 units with 1 unit at 5 studs |
| 01:42 | < afny> | but I only have found two of the 4 stud hinge pieces which make good 5stud rulers |
| 01:42 | < afny> | I have a ton of the 6 stud ones |
| 01:50 | < afny> | hm |
| 01:50 | < afny> | have a good mix of 1x2, 1x4, and 1x6 hinge pieces |
| 01:50 | < afny> | should be able to get a ruler that doesn't end a unit on a hinge and break it up with tiles |
| 01:50 | < afny> | my spatial reasoning skills are pretty shit though.. |
| 01:59 | < afny> | woo |
| 01:59 | < afny> | no units end on hinges |
| 01:59 | < afny> | and only one stud over on either end |
| 02:05 | < Carbonbass> | take 1x2 hinge bits and use 1x4 plates to turn them into 1x4 hinge pieces? |
| 02:08 | < afny> | didn't have enough of any one hinge piece to use only that |
| 02:08 | < afny> | well, except for the 1x6 ones but that makes units end on a hinge |
| 02:08 | < afny> | so it's hard to indicate |
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| 02:12 | <+Tetrajak> | anyone active in here? |
| 02:12 | < Carbonbass> | The only rulers I've seen people using for Mf0 all ended on hinge pieces |
| 02:12 | < afny> | yeah, if you use the 1x4 pieces every unit ends on a hinge |
| 02:12 | <+Tetrajak> | I'll take that as a yes |
| 02:13 | < afny> | that's fine, but the problem is having some units end on a hinge piece and some on a stud |
| 02:13 | < afny> | which is what you get if you use 1x6s |
| 02:13 | < afny> | brb |
| 02:13 | < Carbonbass> | Ahh, gotcha |
| 02:13 | < Carbonbass> | I thought you meant the ends of the ruler. |
| 02:13 | < afny> | ah, no, meant the unit divisions |
| 02:14 | <+Tetrajak> | so, peeps, I need some opinions, and perhaps some knowledge from those who have seen and partaken in media that involve mecha in space |
| 02:14 | <+Tetrajak> | specifically; what sort of things are used as defense in space? |
| 02:15 | <+Tetrajak> | by mecha, that is |
| 02:15 | < afny> | You mean blue dice/ |
| 02:15 | < afny> | ?* |
| 02:15 | < afny> | Like, ideas for blue dice in a space combat geared company? |
| 02:15 | <+Tetrajak> | mhm |
| 02:15 | <+Tetrajak> | shields seem a little silly when said mechs are armed with railguns |
| 02:15 | <+Tetrajak> | and lasers |
| 02:16 | <+Tetrajak> | but sadly the Venus frame of mine doesn't lend itself to heavy armour very well |
| 02:16 | < Carbonbass> | They could be hella-good shields. |
| 02:16 | <+Tetrajak> | heh, but they need to be only so big, so they can be easily removed |
| 02:17 | <+Tetrajak> | oooh, I wonder if a decent defense against a laser, 250 years into the future, involves something like a gas grenade, except the "gas" is actually highly reflective dust |
| 02:17 | < Carbonbass> | The Stark Jegan from Gundam has a anti-beam coating on it's armor that can defect angled shots pretty well |
| 02:17 | < afny> | lots of gundams have reflective armor |
| 02:17 | < afny> | pretty much every "Gundam", and a lot of later mass production mobile suits |
| 02:17 | < Carbonbass> | Gundams, but not many grunts |
| 02:18 | <+Tetrajak> | only problem is that I can't strip armour off the Venus, because of it's shaping and build |
| 02:18 | < afny> | you could take off the circles under the armpits |
| 02:18 | < afny> | those aren't vital |
| 02:18 | < afny> | and the outer boat bumpers on the legs |
| 02:18 | <+Tetrajak> | afny: they are actually :( |
| 02:18 | <+Tetrajak> | both are |
| 02:18 | < afny> | hm |
| 02:18 | < Carbonbass> | Something akin to Minovsky Particle distributors |
| 02:18 | < afny> | if you did the center column differently they wouldn't be |
| 02:18 | <+Tetrajak> | the circles under the arms are the only thing that holds both halves of the torso together |
| 02:18 | < afny> | oh... |
| 02:18 | < afny> | you should stack the clip plates |
| 02:18 | < afny> | er* |
| 02:18 | < afny> | the ring plates |
| 02:19 | < afny> | that's how the aphro connects in the center |
| 02:19 | < afny> | one orients up and is sandwiched between two bar plates, one orients down for the legs |
| 02:19 | <+Tetrajak> | then I wouldn't get the nice angles for the head and lower torso/groin |
| 02:19 | <+Tetrajak> | anyway, ignoring the circles, because removing them would be troublesome |
| 02:19 | < afny> | well you could get the same head angle |
| 02:19 | < afny> | the groin wouldn't just out as much |
| 02:20 | <+Tetrajak> | ignore the circle, as they would be difficult given the lack of movement in the arms |
| 02:20 | < afny> | but the whole central structure would be much more solid...I can't imagine those tiles are a tight connection |
| 02:20 | <+Tetrajak> | difficult to remove* |
| 02:20 | < afny> | hm actually |
| 02:20 | < afny> | you can get the groin to jut out |
| 02:21 | < afny> | you just orient the legs differently |
| 02:21 | < afny> | I've got the aphro doing the exact same pose from your flikr image |
| 02:21 | < afny> | I guess the only difference is you don't get the exposure of the round plates/ringplates |
| 02:22 | <+Tetrajak> | hold on, I need to find the aphrodite for reference |
| 02:22 | <+Tetrajak> | gimme a sec |
| 02:22 | <+Tetrajak> | found it |
| 02:23 | <+Tetrajak> | afny: the reason I chose to compose the central body as I have is to save on bricks |
| 02:23 | <+Tetrajak> | and to avoid having the back jut out as much as the aphrodite's does |
| 02:23 | < afny> | what bricks does mine use that yours doesn't? |
| 02:23 | < afny> | and with the exception of the headlight that makes up the neck, everything in the back is greebling |
| 02:23 | < afny> | I'd say yours is more brick intensive because it uses a 5stuf |
| 02:24 | < afny> | 5stud* |
| 02:24 | <+Tetrajak> | mine doesn't use a 5stuf |
| 02:24 | < afny> | 5stuf! |
| 02:24 | < afny> | It did when we talked about your build earlier, but that may have been in the early stages |
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| 02:25 | < Tetrajak_> | argh |
| 02:25 | < Tetrajak_> | lagout |
| 02:25 | < afny> | Tetrajak: mine doesn't use a 5stuf |
| 02:25 | < afny> | [9:24pm] afny: 5stuf! |
| 02:25 | < afny> | [9:24pm] afny: It did when we talked about your build earlier, but that may have been in the early stages |
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| 02:25 | < afny> | or were you just making fun of my typo |
| 02:25 | < afny> | it looks like there's one in there on Flikr |
| 02:25 | < ghost> | damnit |
| 02:26 | < ghost> | how does one use ghost command |
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| 02:26 | <+Tetrajak> | there! |
| 02:27 | <+Tetrajak> | damnit |
| 02:27 | <+Tetrajak> | afny: there are no travis bricks in the Venus |
| 02:27 | <+Tetrajak> | there is, however, a brick with 3 studsd |
| 02:27 | <+Tetrajak> | studs even |
| 02:28 | < afny> | ah, okay |
| 02:28 | < afny> | that explainsit |
| 02:28 | <+Tetrajak> | the Venus uses one less 1x1 plate w/ ring than the aphrodite |
| 02:28 | < afny> | how many does it use? |
| 02:28 | < afny> | I could the same ammount |
| 02:28 | <+Tetrajak> | 2 in the main body |
| 02:28 | < afny> | and one for the back thrusters |
| 02:28 | <+Tetrajak> | as opposed to 3 |
| 02:28 | < afny> | that's still 3 :| |
| 02:29 | <+Tetrajak> | the aphro uses 3, the Venus uses 2 |
| 02:29 | < afny> | it uses three |
| 02:29 | < afny> | I see three in the picture |
| 02:29 | <+Tetrajak> | argh, exclude the one in the back with the binocs |
| 02:29 | <+Tetrajak> | that is just detailing |
| 02:29 | <+Tetrajak> | it could be a 1x1 plate if I wanted it to be |
| 02:29 | < afny> | uh, okay |
| 02:30 | < afny> | well I consider a ring plate to be cheaper than a 3 stud |
| 02:30 | <+Tetrajak> | the one in the back doesn't have any function |
| 02:30 | < afny> | maybe I'm not buying from the right stores |
| 02:30 | <+Tetrajak> | sure, it is, but the aphro has a bigger torso than the Venus |
| 02:30 | < afny> | with the possible exception of the neck headlight |
| 02:30 | <+Tetrajak> | the technique for the body that I used on the Venus gives it a smaller height than the aphro |
| 02:30 | < afny> | looks like the same height |
| 02:30 | < afny> | the reason the venus is shorter is because of the way your legs are posed |
| 02:31 | < afny> | and I think your feet are shorter by a plate |
| 02:31 | < Carbonbass> | Could use shield drones instead of attaching anything to the Frame itself |
| 02:31 | <+Tetrajak> | damnit. |
| 02:31 | < afny> | looking, I think your torso assemblage is shorter by one plate on the bottom |
| 02:31 | < afny> | oh yeah, we were supposed to be talking about blue dice :| |
| 02:31 | < afny> | Well in Gundam, oftentimes the best defense is just mobility |
| 02:31 | <+Tetrajak> | CB: I don't consider drones to be legit in MFZ because of the lack of A.I. advancement in the SC setting |
| 02:32 | < afny> | and I've seen frames specced as XX GB with two systems that would classically be considered greens |
| 02:32 | <+Tetrajak> | afny: that's what I was thinking, except then it would just be green dice XD |
| 02:32 | < Carbonbass> | It would just be slaved to the same controls as the Mobile Frame wouldn't it? |
| 02:32 | < afny> | Nah, I've seen frames that are just like |
| 02:32 | < afny> | Wings (Green) |
| 02:32 | < afny> | Ventral Thrusters for high mobility (Blue) |
| 02:33 | < afny> | It's a LITTLE bit of a cop out, but I often use ECM or decoy projectors that launch physical objects producing a signature |
| 02:33 | < afny> | that kind of thing would work in space where visibility is low and confusing |
| 02:33 | <+Tetrajak> | that is a good idea :D |
| 02:33 | < afny> | back when I first started building |
| 02:33 | < afny> | any time I wanted a blue |
| 02:33 | < afny> | I'd just put a 2x2 round black brick |
| 02:33 | < afny> | with a 2x2 round black tile on top |
| 02:34 | < afny> | somewhere on the frame |
| 02:34 | < afny> | s |
| 02:34 | < afny> | +ay ECM |
| 02:34 | < afny> | and be done. |
| 02:34 | < afny> | I have more refined taste now. my ECM has radar dishes. |
| 02:34 | < Carbonbass> | lol, same |
| 02:34 | < afny> | Also, missile launchers. |
| 02:34 | < afny> | Can use them as Y (flares) |
| 02:34 | < afny> | as Red (A or DF) |
| 02:34 | < afny> | can use them as blue (decoy launchers, anti-missile defense, etc) |
| 02:35 | < afny> | and they always look good. |
| 02:35 | <+Tetrajak> | afny: link me to one of your ECM's? |
| 02:36 | < afny> | kind of an over the top example |
| 02:36 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7414305138/in/photostream |
| 02:36 | < afny> | but the pod in place of an arm is a blue |
| 02:36 | <+Tetrajak> | lol, ah, now I see what you mean |
| 02:37 | < afny> | something I picked up from Malcolm Craig is to use a ringplate or something and a round 1x1 plate |
| 02:37 | < afny> | in a bright color |
| 02:37 | < afny> | and then slap binocs on the side |
| 02:37 | < afny> | call it a smoke launcher |
| 02:37 | < afny> | not good for space, but works as a decoy launcher too |
| 02:38 | < Carbonbass> | I used that for a while as a D attachment , looks good, simple, doesn't take up space |
| 02:39 | < afny> | one of my stock chubs uses it, and my Hammerheads have it as a crotch mount |
| 02:41 | <+Tetrajak> | it's all good, all this talk has inspired a solution :D |
| 02:41 | <+Tetrajak> | thanks for the help guys ^^ |
| 02:41 | <+Tetrajak> | I now have a shoulder-mounted decoy launcher on the artillery Venus |
| 02:41 | < Carbonbass> | Really I just don't want to be picking bits of armor off a frame in the middle of a game, mostly because my big gorilla hands will destroy them if I slip up. |
| 02:41 | < afny> | yeah, I try to always make systems pop off easily |
| 02:42 | < afny> | I don't have big gorilla hands but I do tend to accidentally throw things with surprising force toward hard surfaces when I mean to just caress them gently. |
| 02:42 | <+Tetrajak> | lol |
| 02:42 | < Carbonbass> | I |
| 02:43 | <+Tetrajak> | I have large hands, but a lot of time using a computer and playing with lego (both since I was 4) has given me quite a bit of dexterity |
| 02:43 | < Carbonbass> | I'm revamping my ECM suite now that I've seen yours Afny, not as big because it's mounted on shoulder racks. |
| 02:43 | < afny> | you can pretty much do ANYTHING vague and techy looking for ECM and get away with it |
| 02:43 | < afny> | it's such a generalized term-electronic countermeasures |
| 02:43 | < afny> | well, that could be anything |
| 02:44 | < afny> | I also really like just round 1x1 bricks with colored plates, and then capping it with another round or an antennae holder |
| 02:44 | < afny> | I spam those everywhere even not as systems |
| 02:44 | <+Tetrajak> | suddenly, the enemy is flooded with spam email messages, and their communications become useless, due to their lack of automatic spam filters in their frames |
| 02:44 | < afny> | exactly |
| 02:44 | < afny> | their tactical hud just stats getting popups |
| 02:45 | <+Tetrajak> | lololol |
| 02:45 | < afny> | sexy single brain slugs in your area want to bond with you |
| 02:45 | <+Tetrajak> | XD |
| 02:46 | < Carbonbass> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/78359253@N03/7473830648/ |
| 02:46 | < Carbonbass> | I'm pretty proud of the greebles I used to make that Y system |
| 02:46 | < afny> | i'm a little confused |
| 02:46 | < afny> | does it have two heads |
| 02:47 | < Carbonbass> | One's the head the other is a SOFLAM |
| 02:47 | < afny> | SOFLAM |
| 02:47 | <+Tetrajak> | oh wow, so many greebles |
| 02:48 | < afny> | I like the shoulder mount on this one |
| 02:48 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/78359253@N03/7438689888/in/photostream/ |
| 02:48 | < Carbonbass> | Big honking laser designator |
| 02:49 | <+Tetrajak> | AAAH! PEACHES! |
| 02:49 | <+Tetrajak> | that must be a station |
| 02:49 | <+Tetrajak> | Galaxy's Biggest Peaches |
| 02:50 | <+Tetrajak> | psst, don't tell anyone, but they're actually nectarines >.> |
| 02:51 | < Carbonbass> | When I built these frames, I made sure there were at least 6 places to mount systems. |
| 02:51 | <+Tetrajak> | argh, now I need to come up with comms (yellow) systems for the Venus on the back of it's shoulder mounts |
| 02:53 | < Carbonbass> | @Tetra: They be Peaches, all fuzzy. We don't tolerate them smooth skinned counterfeits in these 'ere parts! |
| 02:53 | <+Tetrajak> | XD |
| 02:53 | <+Tetrajak> | I was thinking of a planet's government secretly replacing it's peach stockpile with lower-worth nectarines in secret, in a similar fashion to filling gold bars with lead |
| 02:53 | < Carbonbass> | Spray on fuzz |
| 02:54 | <+Tetrajak> | exactly |
| 02:54 | < Carbonbass> | like flocking |
| 02:54 | <+Tetrajak> | lololol |
| 02:54 | <+Tetrajak> | or even better, apricots |
| 02:55 | <+Tetrajak> | "these are some very orange peaches...." "err... that's just because they're not fully ripe yet..." |
| 02:55 | <+Tetrajak> | shit! he's on to us! |
| 02:58 | <+Tetrajak> | man, I'm still not over Soren's peach dollar bills |
| 02:58 | <+Tetrajak> | they are so awesome |
| 03:01 | < afny> | that reminds me, gotta install illustrator |
| 03:05 | < Carbonbass> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/78359253@N03/7476094012/ Worked on a few new ECMs, I'm thinking far left is the winner, but a second opinion always helps |
| 03:06 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm liking the right one, minus the 2x2 round plate |
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| 03:11 | < Carbonbass> | ohh that does look nice |
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| 03:12 | <+Tetrajak> | CB: glad I could help :D |
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| 03:13 | < Carbonbass> | Prett much what I was using before, but with a 2x2 boob brick under it |
| 03:14 | <+FerrelFerret> | Yo |
| 03:15 | <+Tetrajak> | lol, I hadn't seen them be called that before |
| 03:15 | <+Tetrajak> | heya Ferret |
| 03:15 | <+FerrelFerret> | Boob bricks are awesome. :) |
| 03:15 | <+FerrelFerret> | Love boob bricks and butts |
| 03:17 | < Carbonbass> | Speaking of boobs, I need to go shower then go grab a couple more $5 Frog Rush sets from Walmart |
| 03:18 | <+Tetrajak> | lol |
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| 05:16 | <+Tetrajak> | anyone active in here? |
| 05:19 | < afny> | I'm here but about to go into broodwar |
| 05:19 | <+Tetrajak> | mmk |
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| 12:36 | < afny> | hey Dukayn |
| 12:36 | < Dukayn> | hey Kev |
| 12:37 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7478273288/in/photostream |
| 12:38 | < Dukayn> | I saw! |
| 12:38 | < afny> | This is "the red one" Ced wanted me to do |
| 12:38 | < afny> | but he's like dead or something. |
| 12:39 | < Dukayn> | I think I was browsing the Flickr group at the same time you were uploading it, cos it popped up while I was clicking through other stuff :P |
| 12:39 | < afny> | yeah, I just added it |
| 12:39 | < afny> | it SORT of transforms |
| 12:39 | < Dukayn> | It's very cool |
| 12:39 | < afny> | if I add some tiles under the arms it can turn into a missile truck |
| 12:40 | < afny> | but it's not as cool now that it has small feet |
| 12:40 | < afny> | it used to have big feet that made the truck cab |
| 12:40 | < Dukayn> | ah |
| 12:40 | < Dukayn> | I love those small feet |
| 12:40 | < afny> | yeah, it's cooler this way |
| 12:40 | < Dukayn> | you kinda look at em and think "wtf how does it stand up?" |
| 12:40 | < afny> | It doesn't need to transform |
| 12:41 | < Dukayn> | cos 1x2 is not really a stable foot base :P |
| 12:41 | < afny> | heh, I really tried to use 1x1 on this |
| 12:41 | < Dukayn> | Hahah |
| 12:41 | < afny> | couldn't swing it |
| 12:42 | < Dukayn> | I haven't done anything MFZish for days |
| 12:42 | < afny> | busy with work or just burned out? |
| 12:42 | < Dukayn> | well, work has been busy yeah |
| 12:43 | < Dukayn> | but, in my spare time just doing other stuff instead. |
| 12:43 | < Dukayn> | mostly watching Burn Notice with the wife. How did I not see that show before now? It's so good! |
| 12:43 | < afny> | I'm a fan of anything with Bruce Campbell |
| 12:44 | < Dukayn> | Ha yeah he's great |
| 13:01 | < afny> | this is me right now |
| 13:01 | < afny> | http://i.minus.com/idWy0a.gif |
| 13:02 | < Dukayn> | o____O |
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| 14:09 | < Mantisking> | Anyone? |
| 14:10 | < afny> | http://i.min.us/ibB7Rk.gif |
| 14:13 | < Mantisking> | Buh? |
| 14:44 | < afny> | Man, I got really mad at that gundam guy for straight up telling me I was wrong |
| 14:45 | < afny> | for some reason I just turned into a forum warrior |
| 14:45 | < afny> | I guess I feel like I have to defend zizys integrity because I've taken so much from those frames :| |
| 14:50 | < Mantisking> | Heh. It's okay. |
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| 15:55 | < Mantisking> | Hey. |
| 15:59 | <+FerrelFerret> | Hey |
| 16:06 | < Mantisking> | So what's up with people today? |
| 16:17 | < afny> | I foresee lots of sleep in my immediate future |
| 16:17 | < Mantisking> | Tired? |
| 16:17 | < afny> | I'd go so far as to say sleep deprived |
| 16:18 | < Mantisking> | Not good. |
| 16:18 | < Mantisking> | Go say hello to your pillow. |
| 16:18 | < afny> | not EXTREMELY so, but I could sleep. Oh, I could sleep. |
| 16:19 | < afny> | I did some research today and found out that a hobby shop in a really cool little city near here JUST moved into a larger venue with wargaming tables |
| 16:19 | < afny> | so I wanna go check that out this week |
| 16:19 | < afny> | it's probably the closest shop of the sort at 40 minutes away :\ |
| 16:20 | < Mantisking> | I think there's a hobby shop about the same distance away from me. |
| 16:20 | < Mantisking> | I'm going to try and check it out some time next week. |
| 16:21 | < afny> | There was a pretty decent shop 20 minutes away from me growing up, but the wargaming crowd there was always... |
| 16:21 | < afny> | well, I didn't want to play games with them, let's put it that way. |
| 16:21 | < afny> | The shop was still nice, though, but it's closed now. |
| 16:24 | < Mantisking> | I used to live in driving distance to a nice comic shop that now has gaming tables. |
| 16:25 | < Mantisking> | Well, I still live in driving distance but it'd probably take me an hour going one way. |
| 16:26 | < afny> | Comic shop with tables is nice |
| 16:26 | < afny> | dr |
| 16:26 | < afny> | +aws a more varied audience than a WH4K oriented store |
| 16:28 | < Mantisking> | True. |
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| 19:07 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Yo |
| 19:09 | < Carbonbass> | Yo |
| 19:14 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | What's up? |
| 19:15 | < Carbonbass> | eatin pancakes, trying to figure out what to do with all these damn frogs. |
| 19:16 | < Carbonbass> | Walmart had those lego Frog Rush games for $5, bought 3 |
| 19:25 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | J |
| 19:25 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Oh cool. Should go look to see if we have that special. |
| 19:26 | < Carbonbass> | They were in the clearance section. |
| 19:28 | < Carbonbass> | I've been trying to keep an eye out for Legos in there since I started building for MF0, |
| 19:39 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Yeah. A few weeks after I found out about MF0, I found a bunch of Star Wars sets on sale at Target. |
| 19:40 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Since then I've been buying from PaB and Bricklink |
| 19:42 | < Carbonbass> | I'm waiting for some guy to buy a 40K army off me, then I'll be making another big Bricklink order. |
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