mf0 logs -> 2012 -> Mon, 02 Jul 2012< mf0.20120701.log - mf0.20120703.log >
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01:15
< MoF0-4961>
Hello?
01:15
< Dukayn>
Hey'
01:15
< Dukayn>
Whodat?
01:15
< MoF0-4961>
Whodat who say whodat?
01:15 MoF0-4961 is now known as Mantisking
01:15
< Dukayn>
Ah, hey MK.
01:16
< Mantisking>
Hey Duk.
01:17
< Dukayn>
I thought it was you. For some reason you come in as MoF0-Number
01:17
< Dukayn>
before changing
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01:23
< Dukayn>
Ooh what of?
01:24
< Mantisking>
Stuff I built during the week.
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01:24
< Mantisking>
I tried taking pictures a few nights ago, but the light level on my camera was off.
01:24
< Mantisking>
( Read: opertor failure. )
01:24
< Mantisking>
"operator"
01:25
< Dukayn>
Heh
01:25
< Dukayn>
Good old PEBCAK :P
01:25
< Mantisking>
ID10T error.
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01:58
< Mantisking>
Okay, my Brickshelf account now has folders for the Ballista, Jaeger, and Red Lion.
01:58
< Dukayn>
link? I'm lazy :P
02:00
< Mantisking>
They won't be available for a day or two.
02:00
< Dukayn>
OH WELL FINE THEN
02:01
< Mantisking>
Sorry.
02:01
< Mantisking>
Brickshelf sucks sometimes.
02:01
< Dukayn>
You don't put stuff up on Flickr?
02:04
< Mantisking>
I will at some point. I'm not too sure about the picture quality of this batch and I don't want to put them up then delete them in a week.
02:04
< Dukayn>
Fair enough
02:05
< Dukayn>
I hate with my wife's camera, on the LCD on the camera itself everything looks good, but put the photos on the computer and the light is... off. Like, WAY darker than it looked on the camera's screen.
02:06
< Mantisking>
I'm using the back-up camera. The good one is in Italy for another week.
02:31
< Mantisking>
Ooooohh, Axhead has started posting the Strongarms vs. ABIJ game report.
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02:36
< Carbonbass>
Hi-o
02:36
< Mantisking>
Hey.
02:44
< Carbonbass>
Lego, make more things in Dark Green, I command you
02:45
< Mantisking>
Have you seen the Sopwith Camel set?
02:46
< Carbonbass>
The old one? Or did they bring out a new one?
02:47
< Carbonbass>
That is a lot of dark green
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02:49
< Mantisking>
They brought out a new one.
02:49
< Mantisking>
There's a poly-bag mini of it too.
02:49
< Carbonbass>
Two pieces that dominate the armor bits of my frames (Slope 45 1x2 double inverted, and 1x1 tile) aren't made in Dark Green.
02:49
< Mantisking>
That sucks.
02:51
< Carbonbass>
Lego's green is just a tad bright for a military-ish look imo. I might resort to Mitten's vinyl dye
02:51
< Mantisking>
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=506852
02:51
< Carbonbass>
Get some Olive Drab going
02:51
< Mantisking>
That link may not be open yet.
02:51
< Carbonbass>
It isn't
02:52
< Mantisking>
Oh well.
02:52
< Mantisking>
It's one of my new 3T frames.
02:53
< Carbonbass>
I've been working on a few different 3T frames, nothing really good yet.
02:54
< Mantisking>
I built three. I had a better idea for one of 'em today, so it'll get torn apart and rebuilt during the week.
03:05
< Mantisking>
Laundry in the wash, shumai in the microwave.
03:07
< Dukayn>
anyone wanna trade Mondays?
03:08
< Mantisking>
I have to go to work, how about you?
03:08
< Carbonbass>
I finally get to chill out, I'll be keeping that one
03:08
< Dukayn>
I'm at work, but I work from home and the wife and kids are being fucking irritating.
03:09
< Dukayn>
Of course when I express this I'm immediately the bad guy.
03:09
< Carbonbass>
Don't have that problem yet.
03:09
< Mantisking>
Neither do I.
03:09
<+Tetrajak>
I'll stick with my tired, half-asleep monday of programming
03:10
< neoaez>
Heh. I do IT work and work from home a lot, too. I have the same problem.
03:10
< Dukayn>
Do you have a wife who manages to turn your being annoyed at her for something into her being annoyed at you for being annoyed at her?
03:10
< Dukayn>
IT'S FUCKING MAGICAL
03:10
< Mantisking>
The GF is away on vacation and I'll hit the 90 day mark at my job this Friday.
03:11
< Mantisking>
Wow. How long have you been married?
03:11
< neoaez>
Exactly. Wives have amazing reality bending powers.
03:11
< Dukayn>
5 years
03:11
< Mantisking>
Not too bad.
03:11
< neoaez>
15 here. After a while it just becomes another endearing quality =P
03:11
< Dukayn>
To be honest she's usually pretty good.
03:12
< Carbonbass>
Women in general seem to have this ability. Like they can reprogram the matrix or some shit.
03:12
< Mantisking>
Just having a bad day?
03:12
< Dukayn>
But fuck, if I ever get upset with her about anything she turns around and gets pissy at me for deigning to not like something she did or said or what have you. And then I'm the bad guy, even though she was in the wrong in the first place.
03:13
< Mantisking>
Ouch.
03:13
< Mantisking>
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5356352
03:13
< Mantisking>
Time for a drink.
03:13
< Dukayn>
NIce, man
03:16
< neoaez>
Finally! Figured out the Zizy2 core afny was using for Pan II frame.
03:16
< neoaez>
Trying to find a decent back shot was a pain in the ass.
03:17
< neoaez>
Of course I don't have the right bricks in the correct colors. I never thought I'd find myself complaining that I have too many black legos.
03:18
< Dukayn>
So make 'em with different colours :P
03:19
< neoaez>
I was hoping to differentiate them as another company. Oh well.
03:20
< neoaez>
Some lucky bricklink vendor will get more of my money.
03:21
< Dukayn>
It must be a good time as a Bricklink vendor right now :P
03:21
< Dukayn>
I can only imagine it getting better once there's actually a proper game to play
03:21
< Dukayn>
alright lunch break
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03:37
< Mantisking>
That battle report from Axhead is getting interesting.
03:42
< Carbonbass>
It is
03:48
< Mantisking>
I want more!
03:55
< Carbonbass>
oh hell yeah, /m/ has a Cockpit thread going
04:01
< Mantisking>
Oookay.
04:10
< Carbonbass>
Someone posted a few wallpaper sized high-res 1st person cockpit views from Unicorn. Bueno.
04:13
< Mantisking>
Ah. That's cool.
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04:48
< Mantisking>
So it looks like the Strongarms lose by three points.
05:00
< Dukayn>
wow, that's close
05:04
< Mantisking>
Yeah. A couple of dice rolls different and things could have gone my way.
05:08
< Dukayn>
Those are the best games, the close ones.
05:08
< Dukayn>
No-one really enjoys a rout.
05:09
< Mantisking>
True.
05:14
< Mantisking>
There is now a terrain sub-folder in my Mechaton folder on Brickshelf.
05:20
< Mantisking>
It's bedtime for this bozo.
05:20
< Mantisking>
Night, all.
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05:25
< Carbonbass>
Watching G Gundam, this is some crazy stuff.
05:34
< afny>
heh
05:34
< afny>
G Gundam.
05:34
< afny>
You so racist.
05:34
< afny>
Have they done the UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST monologue yet
05:36
< Carbonbass>
Nope
05:36
< Carbonbass>
Dat Taquilla Gundam.
05:37
< afny>
I plan on making this when the gundamesque setting for mfz comes out: http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/g/gf13-066no.htm
05:39
< Carbonbass>
Oh lord I forgot about that one
05:51
< Dukayn>
... why is there a Windmill Gundam?
05:52
< afny>
I have a windmill in my Gundam
05:52
< afny>
your argument is invalid.
05:53
< Dukayn>
I... didn't have an argument. Just a question :P
05:56
< afny>
I was just referencing this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fLlfkK5pob0/SecEdwAwPuI/AAAAAAAAACo/MxUVoGilE5c/s400/w indmill+beard.jpg
05:57
< afny>
But really there's no sane explanation for why there is a Windmill Gundam
05:57
< afny>
or really any of the Gundams in G Gundam.
05:57
< Carbonbass>
Because cultural research is boring.
05:57
< afny>
Yes, radical stereotyping is much more fun.
06:01
< afny>
I do really like the Fantoma though
06:01
< afny>
http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/g/jma27t.htm
06:01
< afny>
and this guy
06:01
< afny>
http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/g/29h-a-ms.htm
07:11
< Carbonbass>
Having trouble with testing color schemes in LDD, due to black looking a lot more like navy blue
07:11
< Dukayn>
Yeah that's a pain in the ass
07:17
< afny>
it astonishes me that people have the patience to work with LDD
07:17
< Dukayn>
Heh
07:18
< Dukayn>
When you don't have much Lego, you don't have much choice dude.
07:18
< Carbonbass>
My only real complaint is that the Tap+1x1 clip doesn't work
07:18
< afny>
Sure you do, your choice is mlcad
07:19
< Dukayn>
Well yeah OK
07:19
< afny>
I mean, on a personal level I don't like lego cad, but that's because I have bricks to play with
07:19
< Carbonbass>
I must not have the hang of that yet, it takes me way longer to build anything in mlcad
07:19
< afny>
I just think LDD in particular is such a horribly designed program
07:19
< afny>
missing so many vital features that a cad program ought to have
07:19
< Carbonbass>
it does
07:19
< Dukayn>
LDD's not a CAD program.
07:19
< afny>
it's Computer-aided Design
07:19
< Dukayn>
so's MSPaint then.
07:20
< afny>
well that's what cad stands for
07:20
< afny>
I mean it doesn't have cad in the name
07:21
< Dukayn>
Well, it's majorly different to any other CAD program I've ever seen.
07:21
< afny>
that's because it's shit.
07:22
< afny>
I mean, my experience is very limited
07:22
< Dukayn>
That's like saying Skyrim is a shit RTS game.
07:22
< afny>
no, it's literally a CAD program
07:22
< afny>
I mean, it's not anything else
07:22
< afny>
it's like saying Halo Wars is a shitty rts game
07:23
< afny>
I mean, what else would you call a program that has a bunch of set models and allows you to manipulate them digitally to form a design
07:23
< afny>
a simple comparison is like
07:23
< afny>
the level editors for Tony Hawk vs a real world editor like Hammer or the Unreal SDK
07:23
< afny>
they're the same thing, but one is more limited
07:24
< Dukayn>
I guess
07:24
< afny>
except the Tony Hawk level designers are limited in a way that streamlines use
07:24
< afny>
a lot of what ldd does to "simplify" itself just makes it more frustrating
07:25
< afny>
among those "features" are the annoying blue as black due to having only one camera (instead of four) and the inexplicable inability to create custom parts folders
07:26
< afny>
When a program that isn't a videogame makes me commit something to memory that could otherwise be easily automated
07:26
< afny>
I want to take it out back and shoot it.
07:26
< Dukayn>
What does the number of cameras have to do with the colour of "black" in the program?
07:27
< afny>
well the reason LDD's black is blue is because if it was actually black
07:27
< afny>
it'd be very hard to see
07:27
< afny>
mlcad doesn't worry about that because, A, bricks have outlines and aren't shaded in the design stage if you don't want them to be
07:27
< afny>
and B, you have three 2d cameras and a 3d view, so you can easily see where all the parts are
07:28
< afny>
LDD's only other option (other than blue black) is a dark grey, but with another dark grey in the mix, that'd probably be even more confusing
07:28
< Carbonbass>
Question on Mlcad, is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of parts adjustment when pulling with a mouse? Because my biggest beef is that I can't get parts to line up without doing microscoping inputted adjustments
07:28
< afny>
I dunno, I don't really use it
07:28
< afny>
but it sounds like something the arrow keys would fix
07:28
< Dukayn>
You can adjust the different grid levels
07:28
< Dukayn>
If that's what you mean.
07:31
< Dukayn>
Eg I have the coarse grid as default, medium is 1x1x1 with rotation of 11.25, fine is 0.05x0.05x0.05 with rotation of 1
07:32
< Carbonbass>
That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks
07:32
< Dukayn>
I think LDD should be able to have black as black. Because you can rotate that camera wherever you want so that's no excuse, and you can turn on brick outlines which solves that problem too.
07:33
< afny>
well exactly, I don't think it has an excuse for any of its shortcomings
07:33
< afny>
I just think that was their logic
07:33
< Dukayn>
it's rather broken logic
07:33
< afny>
"well, our default program doesn't have brick outlines, and if a kid puts down some black bricks you can't tell them apart"
07:33
< afny>
"EASY, MAKE THEM BLUE"
07:33
< afny>
I don't have any bad logic for their reasoning not to include custom brick folders
07:33
< Dukayn>
heck with outlines off, you can't tell ANY bricks apart.
07:34
< Dukayn>
If I put a bunch of different bricks together you can't tell what they are half the time without outlines.
07:34
< afny>
I think their target market is the people who make mechs and then post pictures to the flikr with the desert background
07:34
< Dukayn>
hehe
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07:34
< Dukayn>
or who post 12" high mechs made out of 15 year old Lego to the MFZ group? :P
07:35
< afny>
And continue to do so even after Ced tells them off
07:35
< Dukayn>
did he?
07:35
< afny>
yeah
07:35
< Dukayn>
Awesome!
07:35
< afny>
he posted nicely in one of the Leo posts
07:35
< afny>
but then yesterday, bam
07:35
< afny>
giant dusty minifig scale mining mech.
07:38
< Carbonbass>
what thread is this in?
07:38
< Dukayn>
it'd be on Flickr I imagine, he's not on the forum this guy.
07:39
<+Tetrajak>
afny, I just want to say, I love what you do with your limited supply of bricks. What you come up with, and how good it looks, always makes me happy
07:39
< afny>
thanks!
07:40
< afny>
I do have a lot of bricks, though, just no a lot of the RIGHT bricks
07:40
<+Tetrajak>
exactly :D
07:40
<+Tetrajak>
you're able to push what you DO have into creating something interesting and different
07:41
<+Tetrajak>
the limitation on what kind of bricks you have appears to push your creativity in making interesting use of what you DO have
07:41
< afny>
I'm a big fan of that sort of thing
07:41
< Dukayn>
*facepalm* http://www.flickr.com/photos/of__me/7328596972/in/pool-438009@N25/
07:42
< afny>
mostly because I tend to suffer from option paralysis without limited resources
07:42
< afny>
heh
07:42
< afny>
that sand green one that is called something Zaku.
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07:42
< Dukayn>
The stuff we're talking about must have been removed cos I can't find it.
07:42
< something>
awww yeah.
07:43
< something>
Hm
07:43
< something>
let me look
07:43
< something>
it's not by this guy
07:43
< something>
yeah, guess so
07:43
< something>
I thought maybe I was just wrong about the upload date.
07:44
< Dukayn>
no, not that guy
07:44
< Dukayn>
still, that SHOULD NOT be in the MFZ group
07:44
< Dukayn>
also, this is genius: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29882140@N03/6276015658/in/photostream/
07:46
< something>
hm
07:46
< something>
not sure how I feel about rubber bands
07:46
< something>
they ARE used in legit lego kits...
07:46
< something>
and it DOES look awesome.
07:46
< something>
flipper butt is a GREAT idea
07:46
< Dukayn>
yeah
07:47
<+Tetrajak>
I've never been keen on using rubber bands in my builds
07:47
< something>
I wouldn't mind them as a detail
07:47
<+Tetrajak>
mostly because I'm worried they'll snap if I leave them built for long, and my supply of rubber bands is old
07:47
< something>
all of my actual lego rubber bands are dust
07:47
< Dukayn>
Great thing about rubber bands, if they snap you just use another one :P
07:48
< Carbonbass>
I must be mega stupid. I can't find the delete option in Mlcad. pulled a brick I don't need out, and now I can't get rid of it
07:48
< Dukayn>
erm.
07:48
< something>
just...hit the delete key?
07:48
< Dukayn>
highlight it, hit delete...
07:49
< Carbonbass>
see, I knew it'd be something insanely simple I was overlooking
07:49
< something>
oh god that pinged me
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07:49
< afny>
NOPE.
07:49
< Dukayn>
lol
07:49
< Dukayn>
"Carbonbass:see, I knew it'd be afny insanely simple I was overlooking"
07:50
< Dukayn>
OH NO IT DID IT AGAIN
07:50
< afny>
I was so confused.
07:50
<+Tetrajak>
XD
07:52
<@Soren>
mrrnph.
07:52
< afny>
tell us more.
07:52
< Dukayn>
SHARE MORE TO US
07:52
< afny>
how did u do this.
07:53
< Dukayn>
hi Soren
07:53
<@Soren>
halloo.
07:53
< Dukayn>
how are you settling in?
07:53
<@Soren>
re: missing pictures, I went through and did some deletag? for the giggles.
07:54
<@Soren>
not bad, although getting used to the climate will take a while.
07:54
< Dukayn>
bit sticky huh
07:54
<@Soren>
just a bit.
07:54
< Dukayn>
where were you in the States?
07:55
<@Soren>
Colorado, so less hot and much, much drier.
07:55
< Dukayn>
Heh yeah just a bit.
07:55
<@Soren>
on the other hand, Colorado is currently on fire everywhere and here, not so much.
07:55
< Dukayn>
I saw that.
07:55
< Dukayn>
Picked a good time to move out.
07:58
< Dukayn>
It's been freezing here recently.
08:05
<@Soren>
Excuse. Just caught the cat polishing off the last of her own vomit.
08:05
<@Soren>
You're a gross little beast.
08:06
<@Soren>
on the other hand, thanks for not leaving me anything to wipe up.
08:07
< Carbonbass>
Dog will find the only patch of carpet in the entire house before blowing chunks. Can't barf on the ground floor that is entirely hardwood, that'd be easy.
08:10
< Dukayn>
Haha yeah cats are good at eating their own puke. It's just one reason why I am glad they generally don't try to lick me.
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08:12
< Whitewolf>
hiho
08:13
< afny>
o/
08:16
< Carbonbass>
That awkward moment when the Shufflein music video syncs with the Mos Eisley Cantina jam way too well.
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09:22
< Whitewolf>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78772749@N08/7485488440/
09:22
< Whitewolf>
my new WIP
09:24
< afny>
wow, I love it
09:24
< afny>
such a great posture
09:24
< Whitewolf>
heavy influence from armored core
09:24
< Whitewolf>
but i?m not 100% happy with it
09:24
< Whitewolf>
but i can?t put my finger on it :/
09:25
< afny>
the lower half and upper half don't connect well enough
09:25
< afny>
that's my only problem with it
09:25
< afny>
I'd say instead of capping that torso ringplate with tile clips
09:26
< afny>
sandwich it with another ringplate between two plates and connect your legs from there
09:26
< afny>
I just don't like the T pieces because of how much negative space they leave, and the color
09:26
< afny>
maybe even darker taps would solve the problem
09:31
< Whitewolf>
the empty space is more or less the angle of the photo
09:31
< Whitewolf>
but black taps should look better
09:31
< Whitewolf>
too bad the t-pieces don?t come in black or dark grey :(
09:45
< Whitewolf>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78772749@N08/7485590060/in/photostream
10:29
< afny>
that looks much better
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< Dukayn>
Whoever can do stuff with the Flickr group, Commander626 is at it again: http://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/7466393264/in/pool-438009@N25/
13:32
< Dukayn>
^^ Seriously, DAFUQ ISSAT?
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< Whitewolf>
oO
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<+MittenNinja>
Heya
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<+MittenNinja>
Soren, how ya been man?
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