| --- Log opened Mon Jun 04 00:00:07 2012 |
| --- Day changed Mon Jun 04 2012 |
| 00:00 | < Ceddo> | Hello hurt train. |
| 00:00 | < Ceddo> | They are also nigh on 200pts at that point, though. |
| 00:00 | < Ceddo> | They may not die. But you can tarpit them. |
| 00:00 | < KarolineDianne> | I even hate how they're not the right scale in the models. Space marines are supposed to be 7-8 foot tall monsters, but they're barely any taller than an imperial guardsman model, in height or girth. |
| 00:00 | < Tetrajak> | I enjoy how this has turned into Warframe 40k |
| 00:00 | < KarolineDianne> | Tarpit? |
| 00:01 | < Ceddo> | Tarpitting. Throw a cheap unit with tons of models at an expensive unit with few models. |
| 00:01 | < Ceddo> | Sure, they kill the cheap stuff. |
| 00:01 | < Ceddo> | But they cannot move while they do that. |
| 00:01 | < Ceddo> | They are stuck in a tarpit. And uselessly bound chewing through something a quarter of their worth. |
| 00:01 | < Ceddo> | IG can tarpit, so can Nurglings. |
| 00:01 | < Ceddo> | Well, Orks are the kings of tarpitting, just like Tyranids. |
| 00:02 | | MittenNinja [androirc@Nightstar-13ff9562.tmodns.net] has joined #mf0 |
| 00:02 | < MittenNinja> | Heya guys |
| 00:02 | < KarolineDianne> | Heya |
| 00:02 | <~Noah> | Damn IG |
| 00:02 | <~Noah> | And Orcs |
| 00:02 | < Ceddo> | MittenNinja: Didya see how the SL died? :( |
| 00:02 | < KarolineDianne> | SL? |
| 00:02 | < MittenNinja> | I haven't had a chance to look yet |
| 00:02 | <~Noah> | The Green Tide, or the Tarpocolypse. |
| 00:02 | < MittenNinja> | Serpent leguon |
| 00:03 | < MittenNinja> | *legion |
| 00:03 | < Tetrajak> | In which battle? |
| 00:03 | < Ceddo> | Mittens: http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1499 |
| 00:03 | < Ceddo> | Same link for you, TJ. ;) |
| 00:04 | < KarolineDianne> | I just wanna run a force of a handful of really tough units. Is that so bad? |
| 00:04 | < Ceddo> | Nah. |
| 00:04 | < Tetrajak> | Ah yes, that one |
| 00:04 | | * KarolineDianne does not feel comfortable without a 3+ armor save and 5+ ward save |
| 00:04 | < Ceddo> | Just not always feasible. |
| 00:04 | | * KarolineDianne on every model in her army |
| 00:04 | < Ceddo> | Where do you get the +5 invul from? |
| 00:04 | | * KarolineDianne at least |
| 00:04 | < Ceddo> | Oh. |
| 00:04 | < KarolineDianne> | Mark of Tzeentch |
| 00:04 | < Ceddo> | Tzeentch. |
| 00:04 | < Ceddo> | Yeah. |
| 00:05 | < Ceddo> | Expensive. |
| 00:05 | < KarolineDianne> | Expensive, yes, but it's what I want, so I pay for it. |
| 00:05 | < Ceddo> | Answer: High STR weaponry. Or, even better: NEMESIS FORCE WEAPONS. |
| 00:05 | < KarolineDianne> | FUCK YOU GRAY KNIGHTS |
| 00:05 | | * Ceddo 's a stout Ordo Malleus Inquisitor at heart. |
| 00:06 | < KarolineDianne> | NEMESIS DREADNIGHT MY SKINNY WHITE GIRL ASS |
| 00:06 | < KarolineDianne> | FFFFF |
| 00:06 | < KarolineDianne> | When they released that model I threw a goddamn fit |
| 00:06 | < KarolineDianne> | What the hell were they thinking |
| 00:07 | < Ceddo> | It's ugly. |
| 00:07 | <~Noah> | Games Workshop . o O ( $$$$ ) |
| 00:07 | < Tetrajak> | They have a mandatory annual price hike of 10% |
| 00:08 | < Ceddo> | Uploading my Daemonhunters now. |
| 00:08 | < KarolineDianne> | It's ugly, it doesn't match up or look anything like other Imperial designs... It makes no sense. The Imperium is actively AGAINST making anything new... And yet here we have this giant brand new mech in the -gray knights-... The GRAY KNIGHTS have something that looks like a heretech got a boner looking at a wraithlord and made something similar |
| 00:08 | < Ceddo> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/gksc_2.png <-- Strike Cruiser "Messenger of Redemption". |
| 00:09 | < Ceddo> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/gkt1_1.png <-- Terminator Squad, ready to PURGE. |
| 00:10 | < KarolineDianne> | Fuck you, gray knights..! FUCK YOU |
| 00:10 | | * KarolineDianne sends daemonettes and Flamers of Tzeentch after them |
| 00:10 | < Ceddo> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/ig_cat_3.png <-- Inducted Catachans, by Inquisitorial Mandate. |
| 00:10 | < Ceddo> | LOL SEND THE ONE THING I CAN CHEW THROUGH. |
| 00:11 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm chaos what do you want from me |
| 00:11 | < Ceddo> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/ist_p1.png <--- Full Squad of Inquisitorial Stormtroopers. Prepare to be hellshot'. |
| 00:12 | | * Soren waits patiently for the deathmatch of epic internet penis to be over. |
| 00:13 | < randolph> | No more, please, I can't handle it |
| 00:13 | < randolph> | (p.s. hi guys) |
| 00:13 | | * MittenNinja chuckles at Soren |
| 00:13 | < Ceddo> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/lr1_11.png <--- "Holy Guidance", Godhammer-Pattern Landraider with Sacred Hull. |
| 00:13 | < KarolineDianne> | MY LAND RAIDER HAS A PIPE ORGAN ON IT |
| 00:14 | < Ceddo> | Mine has a turret with HEavy Bolters shooting Psi Ammo. |
| 00:14 | < KarolineDianne> | THAT I BUILT MYSELF |
| 00:14 | < Ceddo> | Sing me a song of how you die. |
| 00:14 | < Soren> | all this talk of godhammers and organs isn't helping, you two. |
| 00:14 | < KarolineDianne> | Maybe I like talking about epic penis |
| 00:14 | < Ceddo> | Oh, you built it yourself? |
| 00:14 | < KarolineDianne> | Yes. |
| 00:14 | < KarolineDianne> | I do conversions out the wazoo |
| 00:14 | < Ceddo> | In that case. I forgot Landraiders come like that. |
| 00:14 | < Ceddo> | Mine's pretty much stock. |
| 00:15 | < Ceddo> | Only that it's not. :D |
| 00:15 | < KarolineDianne> | Give me a box of bits, a hobby knife, and some green-stuff epoxy putty, and I'll make something awesome. |
| 00:15 | < Ceddo> | I know that feel, bro. |
| 00:15 | < Ceddo> | Eh, I am done. |
| 00:15 | < KarolineDianne> | Just... Ask me to paint it, and we have a problem. |
| 00:15 | < MittenNinja> | Hey Soren, what stickers do you use for those SSRs? |
| 00:16 | < MittenNinja> | Ooooo I can paint! |
| 00:16 | < Ceddo> | KD: I paint all my stuff, that's the most important part! |
| 00:16 | <~Noah> | randolph: What was the project for me? |
| 00:16 | | * KarolineDianne shows the series of three minis she made for her droid character in a starwars rpg http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/139/d/5/hk_74_character_models_by_karolin edianne-d50dqj3.jpg |
| 00:17 | < KarolineDianne> | Made him out of necron warrior bits and random other pieces. |
| 00:17 | | Dukayn [dcfd27d8@Nightstar-36f67fd0.mibbit.com] has joined #mf0 |
| 00:17 | < KarolineDianne> | Lots of cutting |
| 00:17 | < Dukayn> | Morning people. |
| 00:17 | < Ceddo> | Just need to paint that. |
| 00:17 | < Ceddo> | DUKEY. |
| 00:17 | < Ceddo> | My fav Ozy. |
| 00:17 | < Dukayn> | Aren't I the only Ozzy you know? |
| 00:17 | < Ceddo> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/rh4_9.png <-- KD, looksies. |
| 00:17 | < Ceddo> | No, you are not. |
| 00:18 | < Dukayn> | Well in that case "Nawwwwww" |
| 00:18 | < Tetrajak> | Heya Dukayn |
| 00:18 | < Dukayn> | Hey TJ |
| 00:18 | < randolph> | Noah: Karoline was wondering if the mf0 bot ignored her because the joke was too bad. I was suggesting that as a project (jokingly) |
| 00:19 | < Ceddo> | KD: Did you read of the Carcharadons? |
| 00:19 | < KarolineDianne> | Carcharadons...? What? |
| 00:19 | < Ceddo> | I should take some pictures of those bad boys. I have a few scouts done up. |
| 00:19 | < KarolineDianne> | And.. I'm just not good at painting. My stuff looks TERRIBLE when I paint it. It looks better if I leave it gray and green. |
| 00:19 | < Ceddo> | Space Sharks. Got lost some 4000 years ago, and came back in the Badab Uprising. |
| 00:19 | < Soren> | aaaand the peckernets are still swingin' strong. |
| 00:20 | < Ceddo> | Grey/Grey/grey/Black/Blood colour pattern. |
| 00:20 | < KarolineDianne> | I don't get it |
| 00:20 | < Ceddo> | And some more gey. |
| 00:20 | < Ceddo> | *grey |
| 00:20 | <~Noah> | That's easy, if triggerShades = "KarolineDianne", self.msg(channel, "No Karo, you're not funneh.") |
| 00:20 | < randolph> | hee |
| 00:20 | < Ceddo> | What ... is there not to get? :D |
| 00:20 | < Ceddo> | It' fluff. |
| 00:20 | < Ceddo> | *It's |
| 00:20 | < randolph> | I think your conversation desynched |
| 00:21 | < Ceddo> | KD: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IBJwCdoMYzY/TThmqEtgVMI/AAAAAAAAAMI/2CsHGBWFJ2g/s1600/ carcharodons%2B001.JPG |
| 00:21 | < randolph> | desynCHRONized, even |
| 00:21 | < Ceddo> | There. Those could be something for you. |
| 00:21 | < Ceddo> | Makes painting easier. |
| 00:21 | < Ceddo> | I mean, they ARE grey. |
| 00:21 | < Dukayn> | lol RANDY |
| 00:21 | < randolph> | That would be so much cooler if there was half a shark hanging out of the neck |
| 00:21 | < Dukayn> | you crazy bandicoot |
| 00:21 | < randolph> | instead of a head |
| 00:22 | < randolph> | He'd be like MOONSHARK |
| 00:22 | < Ceddo> | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nJFtEJoZ7P8/TlkVaG7qaGI/AAAAAAAAAgo/KSi_aLNEFKU/s1600/ DSCN3016.JPG |
| 00:22 | < Ceddo> | Here's Mr. Of The Red Wake. |
| 00:22 | < Ceddo> | And yes, his MASSIVE power FISTS have ENERGY CLAWS and CHAINSAWS. |
| 00:22 | < Ceddo> | Just in case someone wasn't getting his point. |
| 00:22 | < Dukayn> | SPEEEEHS MEHREEEENS |
| 00:22 | < KarolineDianne> | Ahaha |
| 00:23 | < KarolineDianne> | That first one is really nice. |
| 00:23 | | * KarolineDianne huge fan of lighting-claw terminators |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | SO. |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | Need t oget up in 4:30h. |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | I guess I should hit the hay. |
| 00:26 | < Dukayn> | Night mate |
| 00:26 | < randolph> | nn |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | Nah. |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | Just kidding. |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | I can sleep when I'm dead. |
| 00:26 | < Ceddo> | Or at work. :D |
| 00:27 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 00:27 | | * Dukayn sighs |
| 00:27 | < Ceddo> | Next time, the roomies and I have decided, we do a three way game with report. |
| 00:27 | < Dukayn> | and still we wait on schoon for our battle |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | Oh, dude. If he isn't done tomorrow, I'll roll for him. ;) |
| 00:28 | < Tetrajak> | Ced: This sounds like a plan I would be interested in seeing the results in |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | TJ: Well, two way games are possible. |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | It's just a bitch to take every picture. |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | I forget. Turns flow. |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | There's cross activations. |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | But we have already decided that Admiral Ackbar will play a role again. |
| 00:29 | < Ceddo> | We need a bigger play area, too. |
| 00:29 | < Ceddo> | 1,20m x 1,20m is too small already. |
| 00:30 | < Ceddo> | We're gonna try 1,60m x 1,60m next time, in the Anne-Frank-Memorial-Corner |
| 00:32 | < Tetrajak> | Wow, 1.2m is still rather large though |
| 00:33 | < Tetrajak> | but I guess in a 3 player match you'd definitely need a lot more space |
| 00:33 | < Ceddo> | TJ: Well, read the last two reports I posted. Those are played on 1,20m x 1,20m. |
| 00:34 | < Ceddo> | We're using 1x4 hinge blocks as ruler elements. |
| 00:36 | < Dukayn> | You know what I realised? We haven't had an initiative adjustment in our PbP yet. |
| 00:37 | < Dukayn> | Shouldn't we have had at least 2 by now? When Carrot died and when I tagged the station? |
| 00:37 | < Soren> | is the netcockalypse over? |
| 00:37 | < KarolineDianne> | Oh my |
| 00:38 | < Soren> | Did society rebuuild? |
| 00:38 | < Soren> | -u |
| 00:38 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm not sure if I should be scared or aroused by that thought. |
| 00:38 | < Dukayn> | the whatnow? |
| 00:38 | < Soren> | be afraid. Be very afraid. |
| 00:38 | < Soren> | Dukayn: the duel of epic nerdwang between Ced and KD |
| 00:38 | < Soren> | metaphorical nerdwang, but still. |
| 00:38 | < Soren> | It was floppy. |
| 00:39 | < Dukayn> | ah huh |
| 00:39 | < KarolineDianne> | D'aww... Floppy's no fun |
| 00:39 | < Dukayn> | is that what all that 40k talk was when I came in? |
| 00:39 | < Ceddo> | Dukayn: Yes. -3 for Trilly, +6 for you. |
| 00:39 | < Soren> | Yeah. |
| 00:39 | < Ceddo> | Schoon isn't too great at keeping track of things. |
| 00:39 | | * Dukayn gasps |
| 00:39 | < Ceddo> | Yupp, I said it. |
| 00:39 | < Dukayn> | REALLY/ |
| 00:40 | < Ceddo> | Yupp, totes the case. |
| 00:40 | < Ceddo> | I could barge in and fix it. |
| 00:40 | < Ceddo> | But that's so mean. :D |
| 00:40 | < Dukayn> | Well, yeah |
| 00:40 | < Ceddo> | He tries. :/ |
| 00:41 | < Dukayn> | Oh, I know. It's just hard when you have players wanting to play and we can't because the "GM" or what have you isn't available :P |
| 00:41 | < Dukayn> | We should setup a channel for irc bouts |
| 00:42 | < Tetrajak> | Netwang contests? |
| 00:42 | < Tetrajak> | or are we talking MFZ fights? |
| 00:42 | < Dukayn> | MFZ |
| 00:42 | < Dukayn> | I don't care for netwang contests |
| 00:42 | < Tetrajak> | nor I |
| 00:42 | < Dukayn> | I figure if you're in an IRC channel for a tabletop wargame consisting of lego mechs, well you're well and truly nerdy enough. |
| 00:43 | | afny [kevinvankir@Nightstar-42c41d95.res.rr.com] has joined #mf0 |
| 00:43 | < KarolineDianne> | I wasnt even aware there was a contest going on in the first place |
| 00:43 | < Ceddo> | Dukayn: I posted a little sumthin' sumthin'. |
| 00:43 | < randolph> | [16:27] <Ceddo> Next time, the roomies and I have decided, we do a three way |
| 00:43 | < randolph> | o_O |
| 00:43 | < Dukayn> | ah cool |
| 00:44 | < Dukayn> | that's helpful |
| 00:44 | < Dukayn> | and gives me a little breathing room :P |
| 00:44 | < Tetrajak> | lolol |
| 00:44 | | * Soren wants to shoutcast any further epic internet penis battles |
| 00:44 | < Dukayn> | YES |
| 00:44 | < Ceddo> | randolph: I like how no one wants to know what the Anne-Frank-Memorial-Corner is. |
| 00:44 | < KarolineDianne> | Shoutcast? |
| 00:44 | < randolph> | Ced: It's one of those things. |
| 00:44 | < randolph> | Like Helen Keller jokes |
| 00:44 | < Ceddo> | I have no idea who that is. |
| 00:45 | < Dukayn> | I've heard of both but get neither |
| 00:45 | < Ceddo> | We have a storage area, under the ceiling. And it has a little latch, so you can reach the deep parts of it. |
| 00:45 | < Ceddo> | And because the latch is expertly hidden, we dubbed it the Anne Frank Memorial Latch. |
| 00:45 | < Ceddo> | Which then became the Anne Frank Memorial Storage. |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | And eventually, the entire area was dubbed Anne Frank Memorial Corner. |
| 00:46 | < Dukayn> | Who the fuck is Anne Frank? |
| 00:46 | < randolph> | Omg, check wikipedia, you ignorant slut |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | She wrote a book. |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | LOL |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | What an explosion. |
| 00:46 | < Dukayn> | I'd rather you tell me |
| 00:46 | < Dukayn> | it's quicker |
| 00:46 | < afny> | she kept a diary |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | AF was a Jewish girl who hid from the Nazis with her family on an attic. |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | She kept a diary. |
| 00:46 | < KarolineDianne> | Yes |
| 00:46 | < Ceddo> | It became a best selling book |
| 00:46 | < KarolineDianne> | Diary of Anne Frank |
| 00:47 | < Ceddo> | Guess who found it? |
| 00:47 | < Dukayn> | And I have a personal detest for people who answer questions with "www.google.com" :P |
| 00:47 | < Ceddo> | Protip: Not her publisher. |
| 00:47 | < randolph> | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anne+frank |
| 00:47 | < Tetrajak> | randolph, beat me to it |
| 00:47 | < randolph> | Sorry TJ |
| 00:47 | < Tetrajak> | all good, I am having a good laugh at this conversation as a whole |
| 00:47 | < Ceddo> | <randolph> Omg, check wikipedia, you ignorant slut | <randolph> Sorry TJ |
| 00:47 | < randolph> | Hehe |
| 00:47 | < Ceddo> | I like the contrast. |
| 00:48 | < Dukayn> | yeah, douchebaggery via internet is still douchebaggery |
| 00:48 | < Dukayn> | it costs nothing to not be an asshole |
| 00:48 | | * KarolineDianne considers the whole 'go google it' thing to be exactly the same as responding to 'please pass the butter' with 'no, get it yourself' |
| 00:48 | < randolph> | In case there's any question, I mean no ill will :) |
| 00:48 | < Ceddo> | I know, I am cheap. |
| 00:48 | < Soren> | AAaaaaand Ced's internet penis macro is just looking unbeatable right now. |
| 00:48 | < Tetrajak> | Dukayn; I'm not passing you the butter. It's mine. You can't have it! |
| 00:48 | < Dukayn> | randy - I'm sure you don't mate :P |
| 00:48 | < Soren> | Who can stop the penis-steamroller! |
| 00:49 | | * Ceddo 's warming up for round two. |
| 00:49 | < KarolineDianne> | :O |
| 00:49 | < KarolineDianne> | Penis-steamroller...? |
| 00:49 | < Ceddo> | I am pretty sure randy doesn't mate, either! |
| 00:49 | < KarolineDianne> | Should I be scared or aroused... I'M NOT SURE |
| 00:49 | < randolph> | Duk: I totally answered "wikipedia" and not "google"~ |
| 00:49 | < Dukayn> | LOL |
| 00:49 | < Ceddo> | Punctuation. It can safe randy's sex drive. |
| 00:49 | < afny> | Hey Soren THE COLOR IS FUCKED UP |
| 00:49 | < Ceddo> | Hey there, afny. |
| 00:50 | < Dukayn> | KarolineDianne: I agree re butter. |
| 00:50 | < Ceddo> | Glad you could chime in. |
| 00:50 | < Dukayn> | I like that when he did, it was with profanity |
| 00:50 | < Ceddo> | "Could you pass me the butter, please?" - "GO CHURN YOUR OWN FUCKING COW MILK." |
| 00:50 | < randolph> | Hehe |
| 00:50 | | * Ceddo is oldschool. |
| 00:50 | < randolph> | I was referencing SNL |
| 00:50 | < Soren> | and Af seems to think I'll pay more attention to *his* penis if he yells a lot. |
| 00:50 | < Ceddo> | It works for me. |
| 00:50 | < Ceddo> | Might just be my penis, though. |
| 00:51 | < Soren> | we've just got a whole forest of penis in the channel right now. It's crazy. |
| 00:51 | < KarolineDianne> | Can we stop talking about penises, it's very distracting |
| 00:51 | < randolph> | (The SNL point-counterpoint sketches: i.e. "Jane, you ignorant slut.") |
| 00:51 | < Ceddo> | SO MANY OF THEM. |
| 00:51 | < KarolineDianne> | "SOREN STOP MAKING ME WONDER IF I SHOUDL BE SCARED OR AROUSED |
| 00:51 | < randolph> | Why is that a mutex |
| 00:51 | < Ceddo> | Arousingly scary. |
| 00:52 | < randolph> | Like... reese's pieces for grownup |
| 00:52 | < randolph> | s |
| 00:52 | < KarolineDianne> | Because I'm used to MUSH commands. |
| 00:52 | < Ceddo> | Maybe you need some SOLID commands, then. |
| 00:52 | < KarolineDianne> | ahaha, so funny |
| 00:52 | < Ceddo> | Apparently, the mushy one's aren't ... |
| 00:52 | < Ceddo> | !shades |
| 00:53 | < Ceddo> | ... holding up to expectations. |
| 00:53 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 00:53 | < KarolineDianne> | :| |
| 00:53 | < afny> | That was horrible. |
| 00:53 | < Ceddo> | I know. |
| 00:53 | < Ceddo> | !wrist |
| 00:53 | < mf0bot> | Ceddo: didn't recognise wrist |
| 00:53 | < Ceddo> | DAMNIT. |
| 00:53 | < Ceddo> | !that horrible joke. Srsly, dude. Fuck that noise and shut up. |
| 00:53 | < mf0bot> | Ceddo: didn't recognise that horrible joke. Srsly, dude. Fuck that noise and shut up. |
| 00:53 | < Ceddo> | So mean. D: |
| 00:53 | < Soren> | and the bot just lays it down like a gun crew unlimbering a cannon. Clearly this penis fight has just become a comp-stomp. |
| 00:54 | < Ceddo> | IT'S MAN VERSUS MACHINE. |
| 00:54 | < Ceddo> | And I am tired. |
| 00:54 | < KarolineDianne> | Soren, enough with the penis alalogies, please... >.< |
| 00:54 | < Soren> | CAN CED'S EXPERT ZWEIHANDER WANG-MACRO DEFEAT THE CYBORG PENIS? |
| 00:55 | < Soren> | It looks like we're going to round two tomorrow, folks. |
| 00:55 | < Soren> | signing off. |
| 00:55 | < Ceddo> | Signing off, as well. |
| 00:56 | < Ceddo> | Alright, nightey-night, baby-babies. |
| 00:56 | < Ceddo> | Stay kosher. |
| 00:56 | < afny> | o7 |
| 00:56 | < KarolineDianne> | I am not a baby, nor am I jewish! |
| 00:56 | < Dukayn> | night fellas |
| 00:56 | < Ceddo> | Don't make me diaper you. |
| 00:57 | < randolph> | nn |
| 00:57 | < KarolineDianne> | Ew, I'm not into that kink, love. |
| 00:57 | < KarolineDianne> | Keep that to yourself... >.< |
| 00:57 | < Ceddo> | Yeah, age play is pretty bonkers. Not my cake, either. |
| 00:58 | | Ceddo [Ced@Nightstar-69ae6335.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [[NS] Quit: ] |
| 01:03 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek1g0rcjjb78k83/ST-05D.JPG Now that we're all back to relative normal (idling)... |
| 01:03 | | afny is now known as afny|away |
| 01:04 | < MittenNinja> | Nice use of the magnet bracket! |
| 01:04 | < Dukayn> | oh hey Mittens |
| 01:04 | < Dukayn> | didn't realise you were here :P |
| 01:05 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: You have reminded me that I want to make a bunch of chub variants that look like the gears from Heavy Gear: The Animated Series |
| 01:05 | < Soren> | I don't think I put any mag brackets on that guy. |
| 01:06 | < Soren> | Tetrajak: well, the designs spring from the same well. It's a good aesthetic to borrow. |
| 01:06 | < Tetrajak> | yup :D |
| 01:06 | < Soren> | Man. The mortal wangbat in here tired me out a little. I'm gonna go read for a bit. |
| 01:06 | < Tetrajak> | but first, I will finish the designs for my MFZ Ijad Chess Set |
| 01:06 | | Soren is now known as Soren|away |
| 01:06 | < MittenNinja> | Then what is the lower torso? |
| 01:06 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm gonna head off |
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| 01:07 | < Soren|away> | Tetrajak: looking forward to it! |
| 01:07 | < MittenNinja> | Deep nevermind |
| 01:07 | < Soren|away> | Mittens: it's- yeah, just simple stuff, 1x1 slopes. |
| 01:07 | < Soren|away> | Okay. Actually away. |
| 01:07 | < MittenNinja> | Lol later man! |
| 01:08 | < MittenNinja> | Tetra: that was my inspiration for the Fat snakes |
| 01:08 | < MittenNinja> | I love the hg universe |
| 01:11 | < Dukayn> | grr sometimes I hate working on virtual machines |
| 01:11 | < Tetrajak> | I'm just a massive fan of the tv series intro |
| 01:12 | < Tetrajak> | I think of it every time I declare another sim battle |
| 01:14 | < MittenNinja> | I've never seen the series |
| 01:14 | < MittenNinja> | Just played the pc games and read into the tabletop.game |
| 01:16 | < randolph> | TJ, responded in forum |
| 01:17 | < randolph> | If it's easier to discuss in realtime here, that's cool too, but I needed to link an image |
| 01:17 | < Tetrajak> | MittenNinja; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KQdl5k3y0E |
| 01:18 | < Tetrajak> | randolph: cool, I'll take a look |
| 01:20 | < Tetrajak> | randolph: I think we might have a few other people reading our debate, so for the sake of the readers, I'd like to continue it in the thread |
| 01:21 | < Dukayn> | And some people in channel who don't care about the debate ;) |
| 01:22 | < randolph> | sure |
| 01:22 | < Tetrajak> | Dukayn: that too |
| 01:22 | < randolph> | Eh, screw 'em |
| 01:22 | < randolph> | :D |
| 01:22 | < Dukayn> | I'll pass :P |
| 01:24 | < MittenNinja> | Wow. That looks like it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual setting |
| 01:24 | < randolph> | TJ: Oh, I remember now why I offered here - if it's easier to hash out here in real time, we could just get on the same page and then post a conclusion |
| 01:24 | < MittenNinja> | But it still looks cool |
| 01:25 | < randolph> | Fewer time-lapse misunderstandings that build etc |
| 01:32 | < MittenNinja> | The blue Di debate? |
| 01:32 | < MittenNinja> | *die |
| 01:32 | < randolph> | 2Y debate |
| 01:32 | < randolph> | in battle sims |
| 01:32 | < MittenNinja> | Ah I was not aware of this debate |
| 01:33 | < MittenNinja> | What is in question? |
| 01:34 | < randolph> | Whether it was worth packing 2Y on a DF |
| 01:34 | < randolph> | Starts around here |
| 01:34 | < randolph> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1052&start=80#p9774 |
| 01:39 | < Tetrajak> | MittenNinja: yea, it's not terribly involved in the setting. It's just mechs bashing each other in arenas and such, with some neat characters in between the battles |
| 01:39 | < Tetrajak> | It's good fun to watch as a series |
| 01:40 | < Tetrajak> | But yea, mostly I just like the intro in the scope of my battle sims |
| 01:40 | < Tetrajak> | randolph: yea, my response is turning into an essay |
| 01:40 | < Tetrajak> | I think I'll avoid taking it any further |
| 01:40 | < Tetrajak> | I need to somehow summarise it, but I can't seem to get in all the points I'd like to make by doing so |
| 01:42 | < Tetrajak> | randolph: you still here? |
| 01:44 | < Tetrajak> | *tumble weeds* |
| 01:45 | < Dukayn> | *crickets* |
| 01:47 | < Tetrajak> | oh well, so much for that |
| 01:47 | < randolph> | hi yeah |
| 01:48 | < randolph> | sorry, the littel one is whiny |
| 01:48 | < Tetrajak> | randolph: I figure the best way to resolve this debate is for us to test our theories against one-another |
| 01:48 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 01:48 | < Tetrajak> | in MFZ battles, of course |
| 01:48 | < randolph> | oh |
| 01:48 | | * randolph puts away the lascannon |
| 01:49 | < Tetrajak> | lol |
| 01:49 | < Tetrajak> | I will otherwise never get my points across in anything less than a large essay |
| 01:49 | < randolph> | Well, I don't mind a long essay |
| 01:49 | < Tetrajak> | In short; I think your approach is impractical. The only way to really test this is with actual MFZ battles |
| 01:50 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 01:50 | < randolph> | What would you take instead of a 2nd Y? |
| 01:50 | < Dukayn> | so run a pbp :P |
| 01:51 | < Tetrajak> | yes, that is what I am proposing |
| 01:51 | < Tetrajak> | as for the replacement of the 2nd Y, that depends on the role the frame is taking. |
| 01:51 | < Tetrajak> | and the weapon it has |
| 01:52 | < randolph> | So, my concern about running a sim is that they would have to be really similar |
| 01:52 | < randolph> | the companies |
| 01:52 | < randolph> | Because otherwise, you have confounding variables |
| 01:52 | < Tetrajak> | what sort of confounding variables? |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | Well, in short, "Is it that 2Y is weak, or that ??? is OP" |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | Or even the reverse |
| 01:53 | < Tetrajak> | I think my main point is that your 2Y company idea doesn't stand up to said confounding variables, and that's why it's not a good idea |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | "Was 2Y better, or was ??? too weak" |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | Did you see my sim? |
| 01:53 | < Tetrajak> | which one? |
| 01:53 | < Tetrajak> | there are many sims |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | WT doctrine sim 1 & 2 |
| 01:53 | < randolph> | I whored the hell out of those 2Y |
| 01:54 | < Tetrajak> | Yes, I'm sure you did |
| 01:54 | < randolph> | I needed it - there were a lot of times I would have had to shoot without spot otherwise |
| 01:55 | < randolph> | There were a couple instances where I had to take a shot at a worse target because the 2nd Y was shot off |
| 01:55 | < Tetrajak> | My point is not whether 2Y is better or worse than another company on an all-other-specs-are-equivalent playing field, but that 2Y doesn't stand up to a number of other company configurations and actual battle setups |
| 01:55 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 01:55 | < randolph> | I was more thinking |
| 01:56 | < randolph> | Frame spec X, vs you pick an adversary company, compare results to Frame spec X, swapping one thing out for Y vs. same adversary company |
| 01:57 | < randolph> | So they're fighting the same other company composition, instead of each other, which might mask the actual effect |
| 01:57 | < randolph> | Same tactics, same dice (logged) |
| 01:57 | < randolph> | Or, rather, same tactics on the part of the adversary |
| 01:57 | < randolph> | only changing tactics for 2Y if the 2nd Y added anything |
| 01:58 | < randolph> | i.e. obviously, we can't have the 1Y spot the same things as the 2Y |
| 01:58 | < Tetrajak> | I think that approach modifies the real-world variables far too much |
| 01:58 | < Tetrajak> | your approach is incredibly artificial |
| 01:58 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 01:58 | < randolph> | But then it doesn't prove anything |
| 01:59 | < randolph> | If 1Y wins piloted by you, it could be that you're better |
| 01:59 | < randolph> | If 2Y wins piloted by me, it could be that I'm better |
| 01:59 | < randolph> | It doesn't show that it was the Y |
| 01:59 | < randolph> | (or whatever you subbed out the 2nd Y for) |
| 01:59 | < Tetrajak> | That's kind of my point though; It's not about the 2Y |
| 01:59 | < Dukayn> | I don't see the point |
| 02:00 | < Tetrajak> | you need to consider the build of the entire frame, not just focus on the 2Y |
| 02:00 | < Tetrajak> | and the build of the entire company |
| 02:00 | < Dukayn> | When it comes to playing, you're ALWAYS going to be playing another person |
| 02:00 | < randolph> | Er, I'm saying if you don't use standardized methodology, you can't cancel out player skill |
| 02:00 | < Tetrajak> | there ARE a lot of other factors, and you shouldn't ignore them |
| 02:00 | < Tetrajak> | well, sure, run the sims versus yourself |
| 02:00 | < Dukayn> | You CAN'T cancel out player skill |
| 02:00 | < randolph> | If you don't cancel out player skill, you can't give advice on builds, because you can't measure that guy's skill |
| 02:01 | < Dukayn> | Sure you can |
| 02:01 | < randolph> | "This thing works for me, but I have no idea how well you'll do" isn't useful, from a strategic knowledge standpoint |
| 02:01 | < Dukayn> | But in the end, even if he has the "best" company, if he's no good he's still gonna get killed. |
| 02:01 | < Tetrajak> | You can; it's why I post my lessons learned |
| 02:02 | < randolph> | Er. |
| 02:02 | < randolph> | Do you play any fighting games? |
| 02:02 | < randolph> | Or possibly Starcraft? |
| 02:02 | < randolph> | Or even Magic: the Gathering? |
| 02:02 | < Dukayn> | Yes |
| 02:02 | < Tetrajak> | I have, yes |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | Ok, are you familiar with the tourney scene? |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | even loosely |
| 02:03 | < Tetrajak> | I've heard of, loosely, from those more serious players that I know |
| 02:03 | < Dukayn> | No, I don't do tournament play. In anything. They aren't fun. |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | ok, for which game? |
| 02:03 | < Tetrajak> | Dukayn: I'm with you there |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | or games |
| 02:03 | < Tetrajak> | Magic, and a bit of Starcraft; regarding toueneys. |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | I find them fun, but that's neither here nor there. I used to play competitively for FG and MtG |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | ok |
| 02:03 | < randolph> | Let's use MtG |
| 02:04 | < randolph> | (I don't play Starcraft, my friends do) |
| 02:04 | < randolph> | There are tourney-quality decks. There are tourney-quality players. Not every tourney-quality player is right for every tourney-quality deck. |
| 02:05 | < Tetrajak> | mhm |
| 02:05 | < randolph> | Some players are excellent at technical play, some are great at headgames, some are great at threat assessment, and so on. Very few are good at every archetype |
| 02:05 | < randolph> | Luck enters into it, and the deck matchup enters into it, but just because I have the winningest deck design, doesn't mean, Kai Budde could pilot it to victory |
| 02:06 | < Tetrajak> | indeed |
| 02:06 | < randolph> | But in the abstract, you can still talk about how Aggro is too strong in the current environment |
| 02:06 | < randolph> | Or that Combo needs help |
| 02:06 | < randolph> | Even if The current world champ can't play Aggro worth a damn |
| 02:06 | < randolph> | So, that's what I'm trying to capture here |
| 02:07 | < randolph> | "[systems design philosophies] are good, [other system design philosophies are weak or situational, strong against these other XYZ], not taking into account player skill" |
| 02:07 | < Dukayn> | Well, from what I've read, it sounds like you're trying to say "this is the best company, use this and you'll win regardless". |
| 02:07 | < randolph> | No |
| 02:07 | < randolph> | Well, no, that's not what I mean |
| 02:08 | < randolph> | I try to qualify "assuming perfect play" in everything, but I sometimes miss it, especially if it's a quote tree four deep |
| 02:08 | < Dukayn> | It's how it's coming across though :) |
| 02:08 | < randolph> | I mean, don't get me wrong, I am looking for that. If I find it, I want Josh and Vincent to change it before it goes live :P |
| 02:09 | < Tetrajak> | lol, yea, I'm looking for it too, and I'm with you on expunging it |
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| 02:09 | < randolph> | Hey Soren |
| 02:09 | < Soren> | whups. |
| 02:09 | < Dukayn> | welcome back |
| 02:09 | < Soren> | So, I feel like I gotta weigh in here as the Starcraft player who is here. |
| 02:09 | < Tetrajak> | randolph: would I be correct in assessing that you're trying to gauge in what scenarios 2Y is effective, and just how effective it is versus other builds? |
| 02:10 | < Soren> | Also I was about to fall asleep and getting in some theory ass will keep me awake. |
| 02:10 | < randolph> | yes. and also in what situations it isn't effective |
| 02:10 | < randolph> | And whether you can avoid those situations with proper play |
| 02:11 | < randolph> | (i.e. if it's possible to optimize engagement profile) |
| 02:11 | < Soren> | I think it is, but i think it's also extremely variable. |
| 02:12 | < Soren> | For example: In Starcraft I'm anti-scouting. That's because 95% of the time just practicing a standard play and macroing my ass off will win me the game. |
| 02:12 | < Soren> | That doesn't mean you shouldn't scout |
| 02:12 | < randolph> | Sure, I'm not suggesting you can totally write out variance |
| 02:13 | < Soren> | But it's a tactic that plays really well to my strengths as a player. |
| 02:13 | < randolph> | I'm saying, given equal variance, what are the winningest strateg(ies) for optimal play |
| 02:13 | < randolph> | If the endstate after you collapse it all down is paper-rock-scissors, I will be pleased as punch |
| 02:13 | < Soren> | I think we're about a year out from knowing enough to ask that question and get a meaningful answer. |
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| 02:14 | < Tetrajak_> | Oh man, what happened there? |
| 02:14 | < Tetrajak_> | I'm here, but I'm not. |
| 02:14 | < Soren> | you timed out and autojoined. |
| 02:14 | < Tetrajak_> | damnit. |
| 02:14 | < Tetrajak_> | did I miss anything? |
| 02:14 | < randolph> | a bunch |
| 02:14 | < randolph> | everything from 18:10 forward |
| 02:15 | < Tetrajak_> | x_x |
| 02:15 | < Tetrajak_> | anyone care to fill me in? |
| 02:15 | < Tetrajak_> | oh wait |
| 02:15 | < Tetrajak_> | there are lods |
| 02:15 | < Tetrajak_> | logs* |
| 02:15 | < Soren> | that there are. |
| 02:16 | < randolph> | Soren: I know we're far out from being able to meaningfully answer that - but that doesn't mean there aren't hidden degenerate strategies (nudge nudge) |
| 02:16 | < randolph> | I think that the conversation needs to be started sooner rather than later |
| 02:16 | < Soren> | oh, totally. I'm just saying that there's probably not enough developed metagame yet to start digging those strategies out. |
| 02:17 | < randolph> | yeah. |
| 02:17 | < Soren> | I'm impressed by the level of damage Ced's been laying out with 2Ys and Y-heavy compositions. But I'm wondering how tough it is on defense or against heavy artillery. |
| 02:18 | < Soren> | I bet there's a build that just fucking cracks it like an egg. |
| 02:18 | < Dukayn> | He's definitely subscribed to the "Rapid Attack" mantra :) |
| 02:19 | < Soren> | The thing about heavy-damage ranged compositions is that I can just take more guys than you and Lanchester Square Law my way to victory. |
| 02:19 | < randolph> | I think that, unless you're at a significant Activation Deficit, defender is *even better* |
| 02:20 | < randolph> | Focus fire to make the field level before next round, and you still get to keep the init |
| 02:20 | < Soren> | yeah, potentially. |
| 02:21 | < Soren> | again, though, the answer might be to do the same thing but more of it and just hammer him until he breaks. |
| 02:21 | < randolph> | Heh, yes. |
| 02:21 | < randolph> | However |
| 02:21 | < randolph> | If it's the mirror match, you with more systems or 1 more unit, defender still gets focus fire privs |
| 02:22 | < Soren> | it's true. |
| 02:22 | < randolph> | And besides, I'd hate to see the meta descend into "Beat X by using X+1" |
| 02:22 | < Soren> | but I can mitigate that by forcing his hand when choosing targets. |
| 02:22 | < randolph> | Have you seen USF? |
| 02:23 | < randolph> | It's the same frame spammed 6 times (skirmish) |
| 02:23 | < Soren> | I am not even familiar with the acronym. |
| 02:23 | < randolph> | Universal Spotted Fire |
| 02:23 | < Soren> | ah. |
| 02:23 | < Soren> | I think I'm vaguely familiar, yes |
| 02:23 | < randolph> | it's split Arty/Direct, 2Y, 1G |
| 02:23 | < randolph> | There are no bad activations |
| 02:23 | < Soren> | yeah, Glass Cannons. |
| 02:24 | < Soren> | I like the redundancy. |
| 02:24 | < randolph> | They're really hard to put out of commission |
| 02:24 | < randolph> | they keep being a PITA til the last die |
| 02:24 | < randolph> | Kinda glad split systems are optional |
| 02:24 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 02:25 | < Tetrajak_> | The only problem I've found with the USF's is that the split range causes trouble with bad dice luck |
| 02:25 | < Soren> | I don't think the metagame is in danger of becoming all one thing, though. |
| 02:26 | < randolph> | It's true, they put a lot of emphasis on all options |
| 02:26 | < Soren> | Some strategies demand more thought than others, though |
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| 02:29 | < Dukayn> | Oop, Game of Thrones has started. Time to quit Twitter |
| 02:29 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 02:30 | < randolph> | Tetrajak: The thing is, I'm counting on taking more shots than the other team to make up for getting screwed by dice more often |
| 02:30 | < randolph> | That's how you kill USF |
| 02:30 | < randolph> | They're stretched thin, and are doing everything they can to actively hinder your useful activations |
| 02:31 | < randolph> | If you can take your actions anyway, then they're forced to allocate resources to playing the game "normally" |
| 02:31 | < randolph> | And they fall apart because they're jacks of all trades |
| 02:32 | < randolph> | But as far as I can tell, it's still possible to maintain that threshold with USF against a lot of comps with perfect play |
| 02:32 | < randolph> | It's almost decided during setup for USF... there's very little margin for error |
| 02:33 | < Tetrajak_> | Glass Cannons indeed |
| 02:33 | < randolph> | heh |
| 02:34 | < Tetrajak_> | Perhaps all these battle sims with heavy spotting are hinting at the 2Y bonus being too powerful? |
| 02:34 | < randolph> | I see them more like the Leapers in D2 |
| 02:34 | < randolph> | Not that tough, don't hit that hard |
| 02:34 | < randolph> | But they're a bitch because they prevent you from doing your thing |
| 02:34 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: not sure what you're referring to when you say Leapers or D2 |
| 02:34 | < randolph> | Diablo II |
| 02:34 | < Soren> | 2Y might need a limitation. |
| 02:34 | < randolph> | Act 2 |
| 02:35 | < randolph> | The sand leapers |
| 02:35 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: never played it, admittedly |
| 02:35 | < randolph> | Oh ok |
| 02:35 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 02:35 | < Tetrajak_> | Soren: I think you might be right |
| 02:35 | < randolph> | Well, imagine these annoying things that stay out of reach, run in packs, and do hit and runs |
| 02:35 | < randolph> | in a hack-and-slash rpg |
| 02:36 | < randolph> | when they jump, they're untargetable until they're nearly on top of you |
| 02:36 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: heh, I see |
| 02:36 | <@McMartin> | The beastmen in Magicka! |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | Sorta, beastmen didn't hit and run, though? |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | Did they? |
| 02:37 | < Tetrajak_> | Ah, now that's a reference I get |
| 02:37 | <@McMartin> | They spent a lot of time in the air |
| 02:37 | < Tetrajak_> | yup |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | Right, these guy swill actively run and dodge if you try to attck |
| 02:37 | <@McMartin> | The difference was, the Dome Of Pain would still hit them in mid-air, so you could chunkify them on the wing. |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | heh |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | They nerfed steamlightning |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | so sad~ |
| 02:37 | <@McMartin> | This is probably for the best~ |
| 02:37 | < randolph> | Indeed |
| 02:38 | < randolph> | We still need to play the Stars are Left, dude |
| 02:38 | <@McMartin> | We do. |
| 02:38 | <@McMartin> | I even have it now |
| 02:38 | < randolph> | It's sitting there, calling my name in eldritch tongues |
| 02:38 | <@McMartin> | Hee |
| 02:38 | | * McMartin builds little Yellow sacrificial golf carts. |
| 02:38 | < randolph> | re: nerfing 2Y, I hope it's not currently OP, won't be surprised if it ends up being so |
| 02:39 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 02:39 | < randolph> | See, I think it's not actually that it's game-warping |
| 02:39 | < randolph> | I just think Blue is too weak, and 2nd Green is too weak |
| 02:39 | < randolph> | Blue is weak by design |
| 02:39 | < Tetrajak_> | You might be right there |
| 02:39 | < Soren> | well, the thing is, it's not too hard to knock it out unless all your guys have it. |
| 02:39 | < Soren> | there's really no reason to take 2G. |
| 02:39 | < randolph> | Oh, heh, you meant "specifically USF nerf" :p |
| 02:40 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: I meant 2Y |
| 02:40 | < randolph> | sorry TJ, I was responding to Soren's "unless all your guys have it" thing |
| 02:40 | < Soren> | If you feel the need for a defense bonus, that smoke-grenade trick I mentioned earlier might help. |
| 02:40 | < randolph> | Soren: The way the game is set up, with offense being > defense, it's emergent that focus fire is king |
| 02:40 | < Soren> | sacrifice a SSR to cancel a spot. |
| 02:41 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: all good, just making sure there's clarity |
| 02:41 | < randolph> | redundancy and distribution is how you fight focus fire |
| 02:41 | < Soren> | dunno how that optional rule holds up, but it could be decisive. |
| 02:41 | < randolph> | interesting |
| 02:41 | < Tetrajak_> | Soren: link me? |
| 02:41 | < randolph> | Do you do it on your turn, or reactive? |
| 02:41 | < Soren> | oh, I mentioned it on here, I just forgot if it was public or me egging Ced on. |
| 02:42 | < Soren> | on your turn. |
| 02:42 | < randolph> | Hmm. |
| 02:42 | < randolph> | It doesn't really stop focus-fire then, does it? |
| 02:42 | < Tetrajak_> | Soren: I must have missed it |
| 02:42 | < Soren> | no, just makes it less effective. |
| 02:42 | < randolph> | nod |
| 02:43 | < Soren> | then it was private, yeah. |
| 02:43 | < Soren> | you can't have more than one spot on something at a time, IIRC, hence the idea. |
| 02:44 | < randolph> | Right, I was thinking standard spot chain: A hits X unspotted, spot X. X goes (can remove spot now), B hits X spotted (or unspotted with smoke bomb), C hits X spotted, D hits X spotted... |
| 02:44 | < Soren> | breaking chains like that is the biggest use, yeah |
| 02:44 | < randolph> | I think that hurts non USF more than USF |
| 02:44 | < Soren> | probably. |
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| 02:45 | < randolph> | wb MN |
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| 02:45 | < randolph> | heh |
| 02:45 | < randolph> | Well. I said I'd run more sims to test USF to failure, but I haven't yet. I should get more data |
| 02:45 | < randolph> | But I also want to finish writing Exit Strategy |
| 02:45 | < Soren> | yeah, I'm not prepared to say. |
| 02:46 | < Soren> | I dont think anybody knows, but I know I sure don't. |
| 02:46 | < randolph> | My gut feeling after the sims was that they'd be eaten alive by a DF 2Y squad, just getting outgunned |
| 02:46 | < randolph> | Because I feared the DF more than Arty or HtH |
| 02:46 | < randolph> | potential 14 range force projection is rather a lot |
| 02:47 | < Soren> | yeah. |
| 02:49 | < randolph> | Heh. |
| 02:49 | < randolph> | Against USF, Green is *not* better than Blue |
| 02:49 | < randolph> | Because you're getting hit every turn |
| 02:49 | < randolph> | No matter where you go |
| 02:50 | < Soren> | yep. |
| 02:51 | < Soren> | also cover is variably useful depending on number and configuration of parts. |
| 02:52 | < randolph> | I wonder how wildly our conceptions of useful builds would skew in a world where 2Y granted no special ability |
| 02:53 | | MittenNinja [MittenNinja@Nightstar-2a2412d1.tmodns.net] has joined #mf0 |
| 02:53 | < MittenNinja> | Aaaaand back |
| 02:53 | < Tetrajak_> | wb Mittens |
| 02:54 | < Dukayn> | wb |
| 02:54 | < MittenNinja> | Hopefully this client won't kill the connection after being put into the background |
| 02:54 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: I get the feeling 2Y would be relegated back to the position of 2G |
| 02:54 | < Dukayn> | I dont have that problem with AndChat |
| 02:56 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: Are you still not using AndChat? |
| 02:56 | < randolph> | 4J (can I call you 4J?~): yeah, I think so |
| 02:56 | < randolph> | Maybe we just need a stronger 2G |
| 02:56 | <~Noah> | Nah, it should be Fo'jay |
| 02:56 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: lol, I think that just becomes confusing |
| 02:56 | < MittenNinja> | I am now. I was using androirc |
| 02:56 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 02:57 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: Told you that you should use AndChat~ |
| 02:57 | < randolph> | Based on the design philosophy stuff, I think Blue can't really be buffed |
| 02:57 | < randolph> | It's supposed to be this thing you only take situationally, because whenever Blue is effective, it slows the game down, and if people see that it's effective, it *slows the game down more*, in a vicious cycle, as more people bring it, thus carrying fewer offensive options |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | J's pretty adamant on that |
| 02:58 | < randolph> | It's a designated redheaded stepchild |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | THE GINGA |
| 02:58 | < randolph> | (Never got that. What's wrong with redheads?) |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | They have no soul |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | Duh |
| 02:58 | < randolph> | But the DOCTOR |
| 02:58 | < Dukayn> | Is... not ginger? |
| 02:59 | < randolph> | He was a bit ago |
| 02:59 | <~Noah> | Nothing, I find ginger's to be delicious |
| 02:59 | <~Noah> | Er, I mean pretty |
| 02:59 | < Dukayn> | How long ago? |
| 02:59 | < randolph> | -_- |
| 03:00 | < randolph> | "[Tennant's Doctor] complains that his tenth incarnation is not "ginger"" |
| 03:00 | < randolph> | (from wp) |
| 03:00 | < Dukayn> | NOT ginger |
| 03:01 | < Dukayn> | Tennant is far from ginger |
| 03:01 | < randolph> | Right |
| 03:01 | < randolph> | But he complains about it |
| 03:01 | < randolph> | meaning he has been |
| 03:01 | < randolph> | I just don't know when |
| 03:01 | <@McMartin> | randolph: I believe the basics here are two things |
| 03:01 | < Dukayn> | That's not what it means, it just means that Tennant would like him to be. |
| 03:02 | <@McMartin> | (a) Probably one of those filthy scots or irishmen, and you know how they are, at least if you are a 19th Century Englishman |
| 03:02 | < Dukayn> | That's like saying "I'm complaining that my car isn't a Ferrari". That doesn't mean I used to have one, just that I wished that I did. |
| 03:02 | <@McMartin> | (b) The red-headed stepchild is even more clearly Not Of The Father's Kin and so mistreating them is acceptable. |
| 03:02 | < Tetrajak_> | I'm with Dukayn on this one |
| 03:03 | < randolph> | Hehe |
| 03:03 | < MittenNinja> | I do like the interface for androirc better though |
| 03:03 | <@McMartin> | These statements are offered for hypothetical explanatory purposes and are not endorsed by McMartin, Inc. |
| 03:04 | | * Noah buys 51% stock in McMartin , Inc. |
| 03:04 | < randolph> | FOX NEWS AT 11: SOME GUY NAMED MCMARTIN PROCLAIMS "DEATH TO REDHEADS" |
| 03:04 | < Dukayn> | No gingers: http://www.itsasickness.com/doctor-who/content/eleven-doctors |
| 03:04 | < randolph> | ALSO: IS YOUR CAR A FERRARI? FIND OUT AFTER THESE WORDS FROM OUR SPONSORS |
| 03:05 | < Tetrajak_> | lolol |
| 03:05 | < Tetrajak_> | Oh, I'm so glad I decided to join this IRC |
| 03:05 | <~Noah> | WILL YOUR CHILDREN DIE PAINFULLY BEFORE 10:59PM? MORE AT 11. |
| 03:06 | <@McMartin> | Oh shoot, I still haven't photographed the Libra frame. |
| 03:06 | < Dukayn> | DOOOOOO EEEEEEET |
| 03:07 | <~Noah> | Libristo... |
| 03:07 | <~Noah> | I wonder who that would describe in Esperanto? A book-binder? *investigates* |
| 03:08 | <@McMartin> | This is a reference to scales, not books. |
| 03:08 | < randolph> | Libra, Agent of Fate |
| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | Very loosely based on the Medium Lifter. |
| 03:09 | < randolph> | I'm just imagining the frame as a comic book hero |
| 03:09 | < Dukayn> | Ooh! |
| 03:09 | < Dukayn> | Bricklink database is working no |
| 03:10 | < Dukayn> | now* |
| 03:10 | < randolph> | So it's been dechrontaminated? |
| 03:10 | < Dukayn> | seems so |
| 03:10 | < Dukayn> | I was able to change my order to "Paid" finally |
| 03:11 | <~Noah> | Hmm, Bibliotekisto is a librarian, so I guess "bookist" would have to be a book maker |
| 03:12 | < randolph> | woo |
| 03:12 | | * MittenNinja slaps Randy across the face |
| 03:13 | < MittenNinja> | Those are the chronsiquences for using puns |
| 03:13 | | * MittenNinja slaps himself |
| 03:13 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 03:13 | < Dukayn> | brb |
| 03:14 | <~Noah> | I thought the punishment was a 1on1 MF0 game with Chron |
| 03:16 | < Soren> | That's not just punishment for you, though, that's punishment for the whole community. |
| 03:16 | <~Noah> | *pokes his 15% coupon at abrew's e-bricks on order over $50 |
| 03:16 | < Soren> | He might get the impression that somebody would ever play with him. |
| 03:17 | <~Noah> | Maybe he's not a d-bag at the game table? |
| 03:17 | < randolph> | * MittenNinja slaps Randy across the face |
| 03:17 | < randolph> | :( |
| 03:17 | < Soren> | haha haha hahaha |
| 03:17 | < Soren> | good one, Noah. |
| 03:17 | < Soren> | Tell me another. |
| 03:17 | < Tetrajak_> | I'm obviously missing something. Who is this Chron? |
| 03:17 | < randolph> | The guy who went ballistic in Wordman's LDD file thread and then the I Hate thread in General |
| 03:17 | <~Noah> | Soren: I heard you weren't a troll |
| 03:17 | < randolph> | He required three separate bans |
| 03:18 | < Tetrajak_> | oh wow |
| 03:18 | < randolph> | As in, he got two chances to cool off and behave |
| 03:18 | < Soren> | Noah: I'm reminding you that internet trolls aren't people ;) |
| 03:18 | <~Noah> | Tetrajak_: Chron won a free vacation from the world of MF0 |
| 03:18 | < randolph> | To my knowledge, of the ... 631 members, no one else has ever been banned, except spambots |
| 03:19 | < randolph> | It's quite an... |
| 03:19 | < Soren> | He's a special motherfucking snowflake, our Chrons. |
| 03:19 | < randolph> | !shades |
| 03:19 | < randolph> | Achronplishment |
| 03:19 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 03:19 | <~Noah> | At least as far as the forum is concerned. Someone should go take his bricks though, and hit him with a newpaper and/or squirt him with a water bottle |
| 03:19 | < Soren> | true |
| 03:19 | < Soren> | We could fill a super soaker with lye and dog piss. |
| 03:19 | < Soren> | That sounds about right. |
| 03:19 | < Dukayn> | LOL randy |
| 03:19 | < Dukayn> | that was good |
| 03:20 | <@McMartin> | Lye might damage the ABS? |
| 03:21 | <~Noah> | That's what I was thinking |
| 03:21 | < Soren> | no worse than him touching it. |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | I actually have no idea. It might clean it. |
| 03:21 | < randolph> | Not gonna lye |
| 03:21 | < randolph> | Wait |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | That's what lye is *for*, after all |
| 03:21 | <~Noah> | Plus, the supersoaker wasn't a d-bag in the forums |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | Well. |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | That and lutefisk. |
| 03:21 | <~Noah> | No |
| 03:21 | | * Soren shudders. |
| 03:21 | <~Noah> | Lutefisk is for the Lutefisk God, nothing else |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | Pretzels? |
| 03:21 | < randolph> | You know, every Soren I know is either a professor or a Supervillain. Which one are you? |
| 03:22 | < Soren> | Pretty much. Also forcing a kid to eat that shit is evil. |
| 03:22 | <@McMartin> | Oh wait, that's finally been patched |
| 03:22 | | * Soren is having flashbacks. |
| 03:22 | <~Noah> | Soren's hidden identity is Prof. SuperEvil |
| 03:22 | < Soren> | The only way lutefisk should ever be considered food is if you have a shitload of akavit to wash it down with. |
| 03:22 | < Soren> | Then, maybe. |
| 03:22 | <~Noah> | Or have no tastebuds or olfactory glands |
| 03:23 | <~Noah> | And fear no exploding can |
| 03:23 | < Soren> | I'm a pretty professiorial supervillain, it's true. |
| 03:23 | < Soren> | -i |
| 03:23 | <~Noah> | I'm sorry, I'll eat lots of things, except white gravy |
| 03:23 | < Soren> | yeah, that stuff is pretty gross. |
| 03:23 | < randolph> | At least it's not kaestur h?karl? |
| 03:23 | <~Noah> | But something that can burst out of it's can and kill you? I'm gonna pass on that |
| 03:24 | < randolph> | The article starts; "Consumption: The Greenland shark itself is poisonous when fresh due to a high content of urea and trimethylamine oxide, but may be consumed after being processed (see below)..." |
| 03:24 | < Soren> | thankfully, I've been spared that stuff. |
| 03:25 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 03:25 | <~Noah> | What's the difference between 4598 and the b variant? |
| 03:25 | <~Noah> | With top groove and without top groove? What's the groove for? |
| 03:26 | < Dukayn> | I can't find the b on bricklink |
| 03:26 | < Dukayn> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4598 << this one? |
| 03:26 | <~Noah> | 4589b |
| 03:26 | <~Noah> | Yes |
| 03:26 | < Dukayn> | 89b |
| 03:26 | < Dukayn> | right |
| 03:26 | < Soren> | ah. |
| 03:26 | <~Noah> | Wait, no |
| 03:27 | < Soren> | the top groove is less likely to split a 1x1 round brick on top of it if you press too hard. |
| 03:27 | < randolph> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4589 |
| 03:27 | < Soren> | try it. I'll wait. |
| 03:27 | < randolph> | oops, too slow |
| 03:27 | <~Noah> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4589 and http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4589b |
| 03:27 | <~Noah> | Soren: I don't have any, remember? I forgot to order them |
| 03:27 | < Soren> | oh, right. |
| 03:27 | < Dukayn> | right, you said 4598 not 4589 :P |
| 03:27 | < randolph> | What are you using them for? Rockets? |
| 03:28 | <~Noah> | Dukayn: You're right, I totally did |
| 03:28 | < Dukayn> | hence confusion |
| 03:28 | < Dukayn> | or... chronfusion |
| 03:28 | <~Noah> | randolph: RAWR I DON'T HAVE ANYS |
| 03:28 | < randolph> | What willon having been you using for? |
| 03:28 | <~Noah> | Nice obscure reference, but I go it |
| 03:28 | <~Noah> | got* |
| 03:29 | <~Noah> | Probably rockets |
| 03:29 | <~Noah> | :P |
| 03:29 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 03:29 | < Soren> | oooh, they come in bright pink. |
| 03:29 | < randolph> | re: RAWR, <chronk> "don't make me chronky. you wouldn't like me when i'm chronky" |
| 03:29 | <~Noah> | CHRONK FLAME! |
| 03:30 | <~Noah> | Let's hope Chron never finds this place and reads the log, I'd hate to have to make a day job kickbanning him |
| 03:30 | < randolph> | haha |
| 03:31 | < randolph> | I was just wondering whether he's the sort to vanity google |
| 03:31 | < randolph> | And whether your logs are crawled |
| 03:31 | < Soren> | I'm sure he handles himself quite roughly already. He might actually rip his dick off if he ruined that much fun. |
| 03:31 | < Dukayn> | can't you just permaban him? |
| 03:31 | < randolph> | Ced has his IP address |
| 03:32 | <~Noah> | randolph: I may be crawled, I don't know how TheShadow has it set up |
| 03:32 | < Dukayn> | but I doubt he'd come here anyway |
| 03:33 | <~Noah> | it* |
| 03:33 | <~Noah> | Fail at keyboard today, blargh |
| 03:34 | < Soren> | I wouldn't ban him. You could just set the channel to moderated and voice us. |
| 03:34 | < randolph> | heh |
| 03:34 | < Soren> | Then he'd have to listen to us making fun of him in silcence. |
| 03:34 | < Tetrajak_> | lololol |
| 03:35 | < Soren> | of course, eventually he'd find a way around and then we'd have a threeway internet rageboner fight between Cedric, Chrons, and the bot. |
| 03:35 | < Dukayn> | bahahahaha |
| 03:35 | < Dukayn> | you're inordinately obsessed with Ced's penis, Soren :P |
| 03:35 | <~Noah> | Clearly |
| 03:35 | < randolph> | Block 'em-Goatse 'em Robots? |
| 03:35 | < Soren> | He keeps bringing it up, so I'm gonna keep making fun of it. |
| 03:36 | <~Noah> | kay, I need cool bit suggestions for pieces I don't already have |
| 03:36 | < randolph> | How do we know what pieces you have? |
| 03:36 | < Soren> | load the fuck up on 1x1 tiles |
| 03:36 | < Dukayn> | ^^ |
| 03:36 | < randolph> | In sand green |
| 03:36 | < Soren> | hee |
| 03:36 | < Dukayn> | What randy said :P |
| 03:36 | <~Noah> | randolph: You tell me something and I tell you if I have it already |
| 03:36 | < Dukayn> | NONO headlights in sand green ;) |
| 03:36 | < randolph> | A billion travis bricks |
| 03:36 | < randolph> | motors |
| 03:36 | <~Noah> | I...don't have a billion |
| 03:37 | < randolph> | I use a ton of 1x1 + lampholder (b) |
| 03:37 | <~Noah> | Have 2x1 motors, but need more I think |
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| 03:37 | < Tetrajak_> | I idly wonder whether the Bricklink market is going to have a travis brick drought due to MFZ taking off |
| 03:37 | < Soren> | if you have to choose, it's better to get a bunch of jumper plates than to get jumpers and 1x2 tiles. |
| 03:37 | < randolph> | a bunch of 1x1 w/ vertical and horizontal clips |
| 03:37 | <~Noah> | Got several of those |
| 03:37 | <~Noah> | in both V and H |
| 03:37 | < randolph> | T-bars |
| 03:37 | <~Noah> | Got t-bars |
| 03:37 | < randolph> | 1x1 brick cylinders |
| 03:38 | < randolph> | transparent 1x1 plates in various shades |
| 03:38 | <~Noah> | Have them, have those |
| 03:38 | < randolph> | 1x2 tile grille |
| 03:38 | <~Noah> | have those |
| 03:38 | < Dukayn> | Dear god Oona Chaplin is HAWT |
| 03:38 | < MittenNinja> | And then send those 1x1 sand green tiles to me |
| 03:38 | < MittenNinja> | And the headlights |
| 03:38 | < MittenNinja> | Hell, send me all your sand green |
| 03:38 | < MittenNinja> | ALL OF IT |
| 03:38 | <~Noah> | Randy, you're exceedingly bad at this, is there some obscure piece you can think of? |
| 03:39 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: Okay |
| 03:39 | <~Noah> | And by okay, I mean fuck you no |
| 03:39 | < MittenNinja> | Lol |
| 03:40 | <~Noah> | 1x2 with studs on long sides (52107), any useful? |
| 03:40 | < MittenNinja> | I find the 2x1 versions of Travis bricks to be quite useful |
| 03:40 | < MittenNinja> | Lol |
| 03:40 | < MittenNinja> | Yes |
| 03:40 | < MittenNinja> | I use I think five on an anaconda |
| 03:40 | < MittenNinja> | And three on my heavy Chubs |
| 03:40 | < randolph> | Noah: AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THAT'S ALL YOU NEED OKAY |
| 03:40 | <~Noah> | lmao |
| 03:41 | < Tetrajak_> | As many of the 1x1 round plate with open stud as you can get your hands on |
| 03:41 | < Dukayn> | yeah I need some of the 1x2 travis |
| 03:41 | < randolph> | 1x2 travis = motor? |
| 03:41 | <~Noah> | randolph: Sort of, but it doesn't have that pipe on the end |
| 03:41 | < randolph> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4595 |
| 03:41 | < randolph> | oh |
| 03:41 | < randolph> | got a link? |
| 03:41 | < Soren> | I find the motor a lot more useful, strangely. |
| 03:42 | < Soren> | But i think it's good to have both |
| 03:42 | < Dukayn> | I need it for SSR pods |
| 03:42 | < randolph> | This thing? |
| 03:42 | < randolph> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=52107 |
| 03:42 | <~Noah> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=52107 |
| 03:42 | < Dukayn> | yes |
| 03:42 | <~Noah> | Yes |
| 03:42 | < randolph> | I have some in yellow from Cool Cruiser |
| 03:42 | <~Noah> | fuck |
| 03:43 | < randolph> | Haven't found a use because yellow :| |
| 03:44 | < randolph> | Oh, ruler hinges? |
| 03:44 | < randolph> | 1x1 brackets? |
| 03:45 | <~Noah> | Already made a ruler from 1x4s with locking fingers |
| 03:45 | <~Noah> | 1x1 brackets? |
| 03:45 | < randolph> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=42446 |
| 03:46 | <~Noah> | Ah, the amulet bracket |
| 03:46 | <~Noah> | Don't have any of those |
| 03:46 | < randolph> | They're situationally useful |
| 03:46 | < randolph> | binocs? |
| 03:46 | < Tetrajak_> | I have used sooooo very many of those 1x1 brackets (as randy calls them) |
| 03:46 | <~Noah> | Hmm, no binoculars |
| 03:47 | < Tetrajak_> | the brackets are immensely useful for shortening things |
| 03:47 | < Tetrajak_> | which is a bit hard to explain |
| 03:47 | < randolph> | they add extra joins, which compresses a construction that is join-limited |
| 03:47 | < Tetrajak_> | yes |
| 03:47 | < Tetrajak_> | exactly |
| 03:48 | <~Noah> | Well, he only has brown, and at .45 each |
| 03:48 | <~Noah> | So, fuck that |
| 03:48 | < randolph> | Oh, yeah, sorry, I bought all of them in the continental US. |
| 03:48 | <~Noah> | dick |
| 03:48 | < randolph> | Sorry bro. I needed to make my Mariah Carey LEGO shrine |
| 03:49 | <~Noah> | This guy's kind of high priced anyway |
| 03:56 | < MittenNinja> | If you look at the parts for an iguana and the heavy chub you pretty much have everything you'll need. |
| 03:56 | < MittenNinja> | Pretty sure I havent used anything else except for very special parts usage. |
| 03:58 | < randolph> | Whenever I see a motor in a frame arm, I think the hardsuit from the 1985 Transformer's Movie |
| 03:58 | < MittenNinja> | I'm not a huge fan of the motors |
| 03:59 | < MittenNinja> | With the possible of using them for the torso in mini-frame based stuff. |
| 03:59 | < MittenNinja> | *possible exception |
| 04:00 | < randolph> | I like them as intermediate building frameworks |
| 04:01 | < afny|away> | Good for larger weapons |
| 04:01 | | afny|away is now known as afny |
| 04:01 | < randolph> | Like, I'll start with some stuff on it, using that to get things positioned, then generally it gets replaced |
| 04:01 | < MittenNinja> | Most of the time I'd rather use a Travis, headlight, or 1x2 Travis |
| 04:02 | < MittenNinja> | Or something completely different |
| 04:03 | < randolph> | Someday, the PAB wall will have headlights and travis bricks |
| 04:03 | < randolph> | someday |
| 04:03 | < MittenNinja> | The round part sticking out of the motor or the cut down height of it usually makes me not use them |
| 04:03 | < randolph> | (and that day, I will own 200 travis bricks) |
| 04:03 | < MittenNinja> | I wish |
| 04:04 | < MittenNinja> | That day I will buy them out |
| 04:04 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 04:04 | <~Noah> | You live near a Lego store? |
| 04:04 | < MittenNinja> | "How much for all of them?" "Uh... All of them?" "Yeah, all of em." |
| 04:05 | < MittenNinja> | Yeah, there's two in the Denver metro area |
| 04:05 | <~Noah> | "All of the Travis bricks." "Who's Travis?" |
| 04:05 | < MittenNinja> | I check both every few weeks or so. |
| 04:05 | <~Noah> | The closest one is a whole state over |
| 04:05 | < randolph> | Me, now, bitches |
| 04:05 | < randolph> | "Me, I'm travis, and those are my bricks" |
| 04:06 | < Dukayn> | I've found I like motors as hard-mounted weapon bases, such as in here: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/NewOsprey.png |
| 04:07 | < randolph> | They make great practice dummies |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | That also has one in the hips, but it could be replaced with a travis |
| 04:08 | < Tetrajak_> | ok, I need some help. I can't find a particular piece in LDD (shocking, I know), and I don't know it's name, so I'm having trouble finding it in the Bricklink catalog as well. However! There is a picture with it in. It is the piece used to hold the front wheel on this exquisite harley: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ironweasel/7331150234/in/contacts/ what is it? |
| 04:08 | < Dukayn> | robot arm |
| 04:08 | < Tetrajak_> | and where do I find it in LDD? |
| 04:08 | < Dukayn> | um. |
| 04:08 | < Tetrajak_> | exactly. |
| 04:09 | < Tetrajak_> | >.< |
| 04:09 | < Dukayn> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4735 |
| 04:10 | <~Noah> | Semi-relatedly, that bike is sweet |
| 04:10 | < Tetrajak_> | thanks for the brick-link, Dukayn. |
| 04:10 | < Tetrajak_> | it is indeed :D |
| 04:10 | < Dukayn> | s'ok |
| 04:10 | < Dukayn> | did that find it in LDD? |
| 04:10 | < Tetrajak_> | no :( |
| 04:11 | < Dukayn> | did you search the part id? |
| 04:11 | <~Noah> | Can you not search by part id? |
| 04:11 | < Dukayn> | yeah ya can |
| 04:11 | < Tetrajak_> | Yes! |
| 04:11 | <~Noah> | Oh, LDD, the official one |
| 04:11 | < Tetrajak_> | thank you! |
| 04:11 | < Tetrajak_> | I had no idea you could |
| 04:11 | < Dukayn> | haha |
| 04:12 | < Tetrajak_> | it's in with the technic connecters O_o |
| 04:12 | < Dukayn> | yep |
| 04:12 | < Tetrajak_> | That's so weird |
| 04:13 | | * Dukayn shrugs |
| 04:13 | < Dukayn> | it's LDD |
| 04:13 | < randolph> | (Yeah CTD!) |
| 04:13 | < randolph> | I haven't ever actually booted that thing up |
| 04:14 | < randolph> | When I found the hangar, I downloaded MLCAD and never looked back |
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| 04:14 | < Dukayn> | I use LDD to throw stuff together |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | It helps with some stuff |
| 04:15 | < randolph> | Because of autojoins? |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | partly |
| 04:15 | < randolph> | Does it export to MLCAD? |
| 04:15 | < randolph> | Or do you have to redo it? |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | and partly because you can rotate stuff and see if placing that piece there will allow free movement, or bump into something. |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | It can export |
| 04:15 | < Tetrajak_> | it exports to ldr format, but it doesn't always work |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | but they are generally shit |
| 04:15 | < randolph> | heh |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | parts missing, rotated wrong |
| 04:16 | < Dukayn> | and if you're wanting to do a build guide all your bits are in the wrong order :P |
| 04:16 | < Tetrajak_> | I use it to draft designs |
| 04:16 | < randolph> | Sounds like it straddles the line between too much trouble and just useful enough proudly |
| 04:16 | < Tetrajak_> | lol, indeed |
| 04:16 | < Dukayn> | It's definitely useful |
| 04:16 | < Dukayn> | It's just not brilliant |
| 04:17 | < randolph> | Heh. Anyone here played Machinarium? |
| 04:17 | < Tetrajak_> | yes |
| 04:17 | < randolph> | I just realized that my Unity gun looks like the head of that guy in the observatory |
| 04:17 | <~Noah> | It's good as a virtual lego box, and not much else |
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| 04:18 | < MittenNinja> | Bah andchat disconnected.me too. BLAST |
| 04:18 | < randolph> | The one with the plug in his eyesocket |
| 04:18 | < randolph> | The resemblance is stronger from the front where you get forced perspective |
| 04:19 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't your device, do you have a taskmanager or something? |
| 04:19 | < randolph> | alright, grabbing dinner |
| 04:19 | < randolph> | o/ |
| 04:19 | < MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 04:19 | < MittenNinja> | But it shouldnt be auto killing anything |
| 04:19 | < MittenNinja> | And the app doesn't close |
| 04:19 | < Dukayn> | Check your settings |
| 04:20 | < Dukayn> | might be an idle timeout |
| 04:20 | < MittenNinja> | It just disconnects |
| 04:20 | <~Noah> | Sometimes it kills a service that an app is using |
| 04:21 | <~Noah> | That service is usually what is maintaining the connection. Uninstall the taskmanager temporarily to see if that helps |
| 04:22 | < Dukayn> | drunk Cersei is hilarious |
| 04:22 | < Dukayn> | tell me you guys watch Game of Thrones |
| 04:24 | < Soren> | yes. |
| 04:24 | < Dukayn> | good man |
| 04:24 | <~Noah> | Haven |
| 04:24 | <~Noah> | Ahem |
| 04:24 | <~Noah> | Haven't started the new season yet |
| 04:24 | < MittenNinja> | I have not seen it |
| 04:24 | < Soren> | going through the books right now, in advance of the seasons, by way of not killing things because suspense. |
| 04:24 | < Dukayn> | ah yeah |
| 04:24 | < Soren> | fucking love it. Sold on it from the title sequence on. |
| 04:24 | < Dukayn> | S2 finale was just on |
| 04:25 | < afny> | Don't spoil the finale |
| 04:25 | < afny> | even though I've read the books |
| 04:25 | < Dukayn> | I haven't seen it myself |
| 04:25 | < afny> | I'LL CUT YOU. |
| 04:25 | <~Noah> | Everyone dies |
| 04:25 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 04:26 | < Dukayn> | It's been so long since I read A Clash of Kings I can't actually remember the final chapters. |
| 04:26 | < Dukayn> | Basically anything after Blackwater. |
| 04:26 | < afny> | I was talking with a friend about it and I had just forgotten that [redacted] dies |
| 04:26 | < afny> | and I was like hm, a lot of shit happens in those books. |
| 04:26 | < Soren> | they move goddamn fast. |
| 04:26 | < Dukayn> | is that the [redacted] that I think it is? |
| 04:26 | < Soren> | It's really nice. |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | Soren - it slows down |
| 04:27 | < afny> | Uh I think it happens in book 3 so |
| 04:27 | < afny> | I don't know |
| 04:27 | < Soren> | I'm sure it does, but for now, doing okay |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | Well I know who dies in S3 which is a major spoiler |
| 04:27 | < afny> | Some people complain that book 4 is way slower |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | I was thinking you were referring the S1 one |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | Books 4 and 5 are slower |
| 04:27 | < afny> | because book 4 is weird, it takes place at the same time as book 3, but with different characters |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | nono |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | 4 and 6 |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | er 5 |
| 04:27 | < afny> | ? |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | AFFC and ADWD are the same time |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | different locales |
| 04:28 | < afny> | no what |
| 04:28 | <~Noah> | Wasn't it great when ___ died and _____ _____ the ____, but then _____ went all ____ and killed ____ except ____? |
| 04:28 | < afny> | adwd is all new |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | nope |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | AFFC and ADWD were split |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | ADWD becomes new about 75% of the way through |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | Think about it: no Tyrion, no Jon, no Dany in AFFC. |
| 04:29 | <~Noah> | Sounds boring |
| 04:29 | < afny> | yeah, but I thought that's because they were in storm of swords |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | no because everyone in ASOS |
| 04:29 | < afny> | you might be right, I read all of the books straight through so I really don't remember the divisions properly |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | ah |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | I've been reading the series since 98 so |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | ;) |
| 04:29 | < afny> | I got into it right when adwd was coming out |
| 04:29 | < afny> | and I just punched through them |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | Cool cool |
| 04:30 | < Dukayn> | Oh man I love the guy who plays Lancel |
| 04:30 | < Dukayn> | he's perfect |
| 04:30 | < afny> | I hope they keep him in for the later bits with Lancel |
| 04:30 | < Dukayn> | well I doubt they'd ditch him |
| 04:31 | < afny> | I just mean I hope they keep those scenes in, it isn't like they're vitally important |
| 04:31 | < Dukayn> | They become important in AFFC though |
| 04:31 | < Dukayn> | cos Cersei |
| 04:31 | < afny> | Yeah true |
| 04:31 | < afny> | man how many seasons away is that |
| 04:31 | < Dukayn> | oh ho ho, Sickbeard just queued up 2x10 :) |
| 04:31 | < afny> | at least three |
| 04:31 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 04:32 | < Dukayn> | They are splitting ASOS into 2 seasons |
| 04:32 | < Dukayn> | and I imagine the same with AFFC/ADWD but they'll merge them so you get all characters, split time |
| 04:32 | < Dukayn> | which is how he should have done it IMHO |
| 04:33 | < afny> | I read them so close together that it basically feels that way for me |
| 04:33 | < afny> | so it's hard to know the pain you must've felt. |
| 04:33 | < Dukayn> | fair enough |
| 04:33 | < afny> | THE PAIN. |
| 04:33 | < Dukayn> | it's different when you have to wait 7 years for the next book :P |
| 04:33 | < afny> | Yeah I'm sure |
| 04:33 | <~Noah> | Woah |
| 04:33 | <~Noah> | woah |
| 04:33 | <~Noah> | woah |
| 04:33 | < Dukayn> | woah? |
| 04:33 | <~Noah> | Woah. |
| 04:34 | < Dukayn> | Thanks for clarifying. You were a bit vague before. |
| 04:34 | <~Noah> | mostly Harmless, 1992 |
| 04:34 | <~Noah> | And Another Thing, 2009 |
| 04:34 | <~Noah> | You shut your face |
| 04:34 | < afny> | I don't really think that even qualifies |
| 04:34 | < Dukayn> | I don't know what they are |
| 04:34 | <~Noah> | Books, you twit |
| 04:35 | < afny> | But they're not by the same author |
| 04:35 | < Dukayn> | I figured that much |
| 04:35 | <~Noah> | afny: True, but it's part of the same story |
| 04:35 | < afny> | Did you read that thing about how GRRM told the HBO showrunners the basic plot of the books |
| 04:35 | < afny> | so if he dies, they can finish the show even if the books never get finished? |
| 04:35 | < Dukayn> | yep |
| 04:35 | < Dukayn> | and they know the truth of Jon's parentage too |
| 04:36 | <~Noah> | GASP |
| 04:36 | < afny> | I haven't read And Another Thing |
| 04:36 | < afny> | I can't bring myself to, I guess |
| 04:36 | <~Noah> | afny: Same |
| 04:36 | <~Noah> | I own it |
| 04:36 | <~Noah> | But haven't read it |
| 04:36 | < afny> | I regard The Salmon of Doubt as the last Hitchhikers manuscript |
| 04:36 | < Dukayn> | Oh those are Hitchhikers books? See that's all I needed to know. Some context. |
| 04:37 | < afny> | Mostly Harmless is the last official Hitchhikers book |
| 04:37 | <~Noah> | No, no context. Read my mind next time. |
| 04:37 | < afny> | And Another thing is a novel set in the same universe by a different author |
| 04:38 | < afny> | (and The Salmon of Doubt is a posthumous collection of short stories and unfinished writings by Douglas Adams) |
| 04:38 | < Dukayn> | Noah - are you my wife? |
| 04:38 | < Dukayn> | Cos that was eerily familiar |
| 04:39 | <~Noah> | Dukayn: That's everyone's wife. |
| 04:39 | < Dukayn> | bahahahaha so true |
| 04:39 | | * Soren thinks. |
| 04:39 | < Soren> | Yeah pretty much. |
| 04:42 | < Tetrajak_> | On a completely unrelated note: I've finished all the MFZ Ijad chess pieces, except the pawn. Should I bother with the pawn? |
| 04:43 | < Soren> | yes |
| 04:43 | < afny> | USE TACHIKOMAS |
| 04:43 | < Tetrajak_> | no |
| 04:43 | < Soren> | make many, many pawns. |
| 04:43 | < Tetrajak_> | Soren: ok |
| 04:43 | < Tetrajak_> | oh, I mean in LDD. I don't have the bricks for all of these |
| 04:43 | < Tetrajak_> | however, I think I will have to make a chess board and populate it |
| 04:44 | < Tetrajak_> | anywho, back to making the pawns |
| 04:44 | < Tetrajak_> | afny: these chess pieces don't share much with any of the current MFZ designs out there ^^ |
| 04:44 | < afny> | oh, they're actually |
| 04:44 | < afny> | chess piece shaped? |
| 04:45 | < Tetrajak_> | mmmm, somewhere between chess pieces and mech |
| 04:45 | < Tetrajak_> | +S |
| 04:45 | < Tetrajak_> | +s* |
| 04:54 | <~Noah> | Who's sleepy and went AFK? |
| 04:54 | < Dukayn> | in-laws are here |
| 04:54 | < Dukayn> | palace |
| 04:54 | < randolph> | <~Noah> Dukayn: That's everyone's wife. |
| 04:54 | < Dukayn> | oh psh ignore that :P |
| 04:54 | < randolph> | Not mine, but I'm blessed |
| 04:55 | < MittenNinja> | Same here. |
| 04:55 | < Tetrajak_> | I wasn't going to brag, but Randy beat me to it |
| 04:55 | < Dukayn> | mine's pretty good too actually |
| 04:55 | < MittenNinja> | She's really good at actually telling me what she wants |
| 04:55 | < Dukayn> | but it's fun to bitch about them :P |
| 04:55 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 04:56 | < Tetrajak_> | my wife is as blunt as a brick through a window, which makes communication really easy |
| 04:56 | < randolph> | hee |
| 04:56 | < MittenNinja> | Or at least she doesn't get pissed at me if she doesn't |
| 04:56 | < randolph> | Don't you run out of bricks, TJ? |
| 04:56 | < randolph> | Or do you have really short arguments? |
| 04:56 | < Tetrajak_> | really short arguments, because we actually sort out what we each want and come to a compromise |
| 04:56 | < Tetrajak_> | plus there's a stone mason next door, so infinite bricks |
| 04:57 | < randolph> | I guess there's a lot of room on your average brick, if you're printing. |
| 04:57 | < MittenNinja> | Yeah, I rarely have arguments. We usually just sit down and discuss. |
| 04:57 | < MittenNinja> | Were both very level headed |
| 04:57 | < randolph> | MOST BORING INTERNET DRAMASHARE EVAR |
| 04:57 | < Tetrajak_> | lololol |
| 04:57 | < MittenNinja> | Ha |
| 04:59 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 05:05 | < MittenNinja> | I should accept sand green pieces as cash for commissions |
| 05:06 | < Soren> | 'money, or sand green lego. You choice.' |
| 05:06 | < Soren> | your* |
| 05:06 | < Dukayn> | hahaha |
| 05:08 | < MittenNinja> | Four headlights gets you an iguana. |
| 05:08 | < Soren> | hah |
| 05:08 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 05:08 | < randolph> | Hm. |
| 05:08 | < randolph> | That's a pretty good deal |
| 05:09 | < randolph> | I mean, $8, that's probably less than the parts |
| 05:09 | < Soren> | I'd set a minimum of six or eight. |
| 05:09 | < randolph> | Sand green headlights are our Stones of Jordan |
| 05:09 | < MittenNinja> | I'd do it for four if there were other stuff being commissioned too. That and the iguanas weren't sand green. |
| 05:11 | < MittenNinja> | I can get the parts (with dark bley trim) from pab for about $8. |
| 05:13 | < Dukayn> | an Iggy in black/orange/dark bley would be HOT |
| 05:17 | < MittenNinja> | That can definitely happen. |
| 05:17 | < Soren> | wouldn't even be that expensive or difficult, if you apply the color right |
| 05:17 | < Dukayn> | I can probably built one from my BL order + was Ced is sending me + what I have already |
| 05:18 | < Dukayn> | I certainly have plenty of orange cheese slopes :P |
| 05:18 | < MittenNinja> | Orange isn't that expensive |
| 05:18 | < randolph> | Iguana so rad. |
| 05:18 | < Soren> | it's true. |
| 05:18 | < afny> | I've been thinking about getting one or two of those sebulba sets to get some orange cheese |
| 05:18 | < Soren> | I have 2004 reflexes. |
| 05:18 | < MittenNinja> | Lol |
| 05:18 | < Soren> | they lack victoriousness. |
| 05:19 | < randolph> | Ooh, I bet they'd also look rad in black and yellow with black stripes on the tiles |
| 05:19 | < Soren> | mm |
| 05:19 | < randolph> | With lifter hands |
| 05:19 | < Soren> | VREEEEE CHANK |
| 05:19 | < Soren> | VREEEEE |
| 05:19 | < randolph> | Alright I have a ton of yellow, I'm going to see if I have the bits |
| 05:19 | < MittenNinja> | I think they'd look good in almost any color combination, save for purple/Brown/blue or something. |
| 05:20 | < randolph> | ooh all purple and... hm |
| 05:20 | < randolph> | gold chrome |
| 05:20 | < randolph> | Pimpguana |
| 05:20 | < Soren> | hee |
| 05:20 | < MittenNinja> | I still want dark purple/bley guanas and nagas |
| 05:20 | < randolph> | Friends sets? |
| 05:20 | < randolph> | Or is the dark purple only hogwarts stuff |
| 05:20 | < MittenNinja> | Not enough purple |
| 05:21 | < randolph> | There's that night bus set thing, lemme check |
| 05:21 | < MittenNinja> | There's way more pink |
| 05:21 | < Soren> | you can get dark purple cheese slopes and 1x2 tiles. |
| 05:21 | < Soren> | that should at least get you started |
| 05:21 | < MittenNinja> | Iirc its mostly 2x4 bricks and such. |
| 05:21 | < MittenNinja> | That's all I need for guanas |
| 05:21 | < randolph> | Oh man the cheese slopes are super rare in sets |
| 05:22 | < MittenNinja> | The nagas will be much more difficult |
| 05:22 | < randolph> | The best ratio I can find is 1 in 20 as an extra for "buzz's mini ship" |
| 05:22 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/rppfdt1dyiueplk/Sisters%20of%20the%20Dreaming%20Blade. jpg they're pretty cheap on BL. Witness |
| 05:22 | < randolph> | Sorry, make that 3 in 20 |
| 05:23 | < randolph> | Oh, huh. |
| 05:23 | < Dukayn> | Those are hot |
| 05:23 | < randolph> | I want to make something iconic |
| 05:23 | < Soren> | I've got another Scrambler since then. Not low on purple yet. |
| 05:23 | < randolph> | I mean. Iconic that isn't Mr. Chibs. |
| 05:23 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 05:23 | < Dukayn> | but Mr. Chibs is the best |
| 05:23 | < randolph> | Yes, but he's a lazy bum and won't haul my Gorgons. |
| 05:24 | < randolph> | I think if I put the Unity near him, he'd get squashed. |
| 05:24 | < Tetrajak_> | The chess piece designs are complete! |
| 05:25 | < randolph> | Woo pix |
| 05:25 | < randolph> | Wait, so, just to be clear, one side is Ijad, right? |
| 05:26 | < Tetrajak_> | in a bit. I'm just going to alter the bishop's legs. I came up with a leg configuration on the rook that I want to test compatibility with on the bishop |
| 05:26 | < Tetrajak_> | I've only made one side, and it's Ijad |
| 05:26 | < Tetrajak_> | turns out chess pieces convert into Ijad-like mechs better than SU ones |
| 05:26 | < randolph> | Wouldn't the game always go: "Alright, Pawn, go over there." "I DON'T ANSWER TO WOULD-BE CONQUERORS" |
| 05:27 | < afny> | I have this imagine in my head of a Conscript pawn |
| 05:27 | < Tetrajak_> | lololol |
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| 05:27 | < afny> | it's got a circular chess base, but its front is a conscript front, and it has normal arms |
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| 05:27 | < afny> | er...image |
| 05:27 | < afny> | I HAVE AN IMAGINE IN MY HEAD GUYS |
| 05:27 | < afny> | ...IMAGINATION. |
| 05:27 | < MittenNinja> | Wtf |
| 05:27 | < afny> | Sorry when you left I just went a little nuts. |
| 05:27 | < afny> | Hold me. |
| 05:27 | < randolph> | o_O |
| 05:27 | < Soren> | :shades: |
| 05:28 | < randolph> | yeah. |
| 05:28 | < Soren> | MOTHERFUCKING BRAIN PICTURES WOOO |
| 05:28 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 05:28 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7333078774/in/photostream/lightbox/ |
| 05:28 | < afny> | so jacked and I ain't even scared. |
| 05:29 | < Soren> | unsurprisingly I like it! |
| 05:29 | < afny> | What a SHOCK |
| 05:29 | < afny> | it's hard to see but its got a TINY little dragon wing on its right bicep |
| 05:29 | < afny> | I couldn't find one for the other arm, sadly. |
| 05:30 | < Tetrajak_> | man, MgN's look really awesome with the magnet clip for a head |
| 05:30 | < randolph> | Is this from like, Sephiroth's pet dragon familiar? |
| 05:30 | < randolph> | (the one wing) |
| 05:30 | < afny> | Nope. Woulda had two, but I could only fight rights. |
| 05:31 | < afny> | ...find* |
| 05:32 | < Tetrajak_> | I'd lend you one of mine, but I can't pass it through the computer :/ |
| 05:32 | < afny> | I bet I have one somewhere, I'll find it eventually |
| 05:32 | < afny> | they're from minifig helmets right? |
| 05:32 | < afny> | they're from very early in my childhood so they've appropriately sifted to the bottom of the bin |
| 05:32 | < Tetrajak_> | yup |
| 05:34 | < Tetrajak_> | ok, the experiment with the bishop's legs turned out to be unsuccessful. So, on to creating some pics! |
| 05:36 | < afny> | Well, I'm gonna go watch the new Game of Thrones |
| 05:36 | < afny> | back in an hour |
| 05:36 | | afny is now known as afny|fullscreen |
| 05:47 | < Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7333077144/in/photostream/ damn, I didn't notice those nice louvered thrusters until he bailed. |
| 05:51 | < randolph> | Heh. TJ: the TetraJack is getting some renewed attention... some of it somewhat confusing |
| 05:52 | < MittenNinja> | I really dig the top rail on that gun |
| 05:53 | < Soren> | yeah, that piece is vastly underrated |
| 05:54 | < randolph> | The bar with hinge? |
| 05:54 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: eh, it's an in-joke already XD |
| 05:55 | < randolph> | I meant the new member who wants me to "share more to him" o_o |
| 05:56 | < randolph> | I'm confused if something isn't translating correctly, or if he doesn't get that that's what the forum is for... we throw our stuff on there |
| 05:57 | < Tetrajak_> | it looks like it wasn't translated correctly |
| 05:58 | < randolph> | Oh, so have you bricked up a company of those sweet walking tanks yet? |
| 05:58 | < randolph> | (or even planning to?) |
| 06:02 | < randolph> | re; Mobile Chess Zero: Rapid Check, might be cool to come up with special rules. Even if it's as simple as "play on a grid, 1 unit movement each, each player gets one alternating activation, rounds don't reset, spots don't reset. Each "piece" type has a preset build." |
| 06:04 | < randolph> | ("Mobile Check Zero: En Passant?") |
| 06:05 | < Tetrajak_> | randolph: I will eventually brick the walking tanks, but not until I have the spare cash for a bricklick order |
| 06:05 | < Tetrajak_> | brb, going to help out with dinner |
| 06:05 | < Tetrajak_> | also, you can now find the chess pieces in my photostream; http://www.flickr.com/photos/tetrajak/ |
| 06:09 | < MittenNinja> | Those are really sick man |
| 06:09 | < Soren> | some of those are just super neat. |
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| 06:10 | < Soren> | really srong concept. |
| 06:10 | < Ceddo> | Mornin'. |
| 06:10 | < Soren> | strong* |
| 06:10 | < Ceddo> | SRONG. |
| 06:10 | < Ceddo> | Soren's goinbg all ebonics. |
| 06:10 | < Ceddo> | "Thassa srong way ta doe it, dawg." |
| 06:10 | < Ceddo> | Oh. Look at that. |
| 06:11 | < Ceddo> | OUR RANKS HAVE SWELLED. |
| 06:11 | < Soren> | You should have been here for my ludicrous horror-movie german. |
| 06:11 | < Ceddo> | Two things. |
| 06:11 | < Soren> | now that accent is an atrocity. |
| 06:11 | < Ceddo> | 1.) I had to sleep, good sir. It's 7:11am and I am NOT at home. |
| 06:11 | < randolph> | So good |
| 06:11 | < Ceddo> | I just clocked in at work. |
| 06:11 | < Ceddo> | 2.) Did you just call me "German"? |
| 06:12 | < randolph> | Not that I can tell? |
| 06:12 | < Dukayn> | he was referring to his efforts to put on an accent of your country's persuasion |
| 06:12 | < Ceddo> | It's a bit hard to figure out from context if context is missing. |
| 06:12 | < MittenNinja> | Ceddo I'm going to finish digging though my stuff tomorrow before I send you the care package. Any last minute requests? |
| 06:13 | < Ceddo> | Mittens: Yes. |
| 06:13 | < randolph> | "my (ludicrous, horror-movie ( german [speaking attempts]))" |
| 06:13 | < Ceddo> | Any left over 1x Whatever bricks in dark grey or grey you can spare. :D |
| 06:13 | < MittenNinja> | Sounds good. Even long ones? |
| 06:14 | < Soren> | my efforts to commit a truly ridiculous accent which makes me laugh too hard to pull it off for more than four words. |
| 06:14 | < Soren> | Let me be clear. |
| 06:14 | < Ceddo> | randolph: Yeah, I get it now. I am awake for less than an hour and already rode the city train and wrote two paragraphs on my story, go easy on me. :D |
| 06:14 | < Ceddo> | MittenNinja: Totes. |
| 06:14 | < Ceddo> | ANything to stretch the Masonry bricks is great. |
| 06:14 | < Ceddo> | Because, noone destroys the two bottom rows of any cover any way. Why would you? |
| 06:14 | < MittenNinja> | Word |
| 06:15 | < Dukayn> | Funsies? |
| 06:15 | < randolph> | I'm totally not riding you hard. |
| 06:15 | < Ceddo> | I am totally not being serial. |
| 06:15 | < Ceddo> | I might need a disclaimer here. |
| 06:16 | < Ceddo> | I am never serious, unless I say so. |
| 06:16 | < Ceddo> | Take me with a shovel of salt. |
| 06:16 | < randolph> | hehe |
| 06:16 | < Ceddo> | Fuck. |
| 06:17 | < Ceddo> | THis is bad. |
| 06:17 | < Ceddo> | The quartly full backup failed. |
| 06:17 | < randolph> | oooh |
| 06:17 | | * Ceddo groans. |
| 06:17 | < Soren> | oh, shits. |
| 06:17 | < Ceddo> | Seems like I'mma have a fun day. :D |
| 06:17 | < Soren> | Multiple shits are definitely called for. |
| 06:17 | < Ceddo> | Because, that shit takes forever. |
| 06:20 | < Ceddo> | Mhmm. |
| 06:20 | < Ceddo> | Saturday worked. |
| 06:20 | < Ceddo> | Sunday failed. |
| 06:20 | < Ceddo> | It's not that bad. |
| 06:20 | < Ceddo> | The files are written. |
| 06:20 | < Ceddo> | Just not copied to tape. |
| 06:21 | < Ceddo> | Oh, and my clusters survived the weekend, so that's good. :D |
| 06:21 | < Soren> | not so bad, no. |
| 06:21 | < MittenNinja> | What do you do Ceddo? |
| 06:22 | < Soren> | okay, it's hot in here. I need another shower. |
| 06:22 | < MittenNinja> | Really? It's pretty much perfect outside |
| 06:22 | < Ceddo> | MittenNinja: Server Admin / System Maintenance at the Federal Ministry of Health. |
| 06:22 | < MittenNinja> | Ooooo |
| 06:22 | < MittenNinja> | Fancy job |
| 06:22 | < Ceddo> | Meh. :D |
| 06:22 | < Ceddo> | Just sounds fancy. |
| 06:23 | < randolph> | Looks great on a business card |
| 06:23 | < MittenNinja> | Fancier than me |
| 06:23 | < Ceddo> | It's actually pretty ... uhm ... *scratches head* |
| 06:23 | < Ceddo> | It's what you would expect from a gov job. |
| 06:23 | < Ceddo> | I watch this telephone alot. |
| 06:23 | < MittenNinja> | Yeah still |
| 06:23 | < randolph> | [MINISTRY OF HEALTH] |
| 06:23 | < MittenNinja> | Id take that over my job |
| 06:23 | < randolph> | SYS ADMIN |
| 06:23 | < Ceddo> | The irony is, I couldn't get a job in Canada in IT, anywhere I applied to. |
| 06:23 | < randolph> | You could totally be a Shadowrun target |
| 06:24 | < Ceddo> | I come back to Germany, first job I get is this. |
| 06:24 | < Ceddo> | Was the second application I sent out. |
| 06:24 | < Ceddo> | Got an interview, my boss thought I was so cool, he created my current position for me. |
| 06:24 | < randolph> | woah |
| 06:24 | < Ceddo> | Initially, I had a pplied for something a step below. |
| 06:24 | < randolph> | That's awesome |
| 06:25 | < Ceddo> | Inorite. I felt so trolled by Canada. :D |
| 06:26 | < Dukayn> | I'm a Software Repackaging and Virtualisation Specialist :P |
| 06:26 | < Soren> | MittenNinja: old house, no AC. |
| 06:27 | < Soren> | bad ventilation. |
| 06:27 | < MittenNinja> | Ah |
| 06:27 | < MittenNinja> | Not enough Windows either I take it? |
| 06:27 | | Soren is now known as Soren|away |
| 06:27 | < Soren|away> | well, some of them are so old and fucked they don't open. |
| 06:27 | < Ceddo> | Hey, Dukey, guess what doesn't work anymore. |
| 06:27 | < randolph> | Virtualisation? Have you spoken to MCM? |
| 06:28 | < MittenNinja> | Lamesauce |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | Oh, FUCK. |
| 06:29 | <@McMartin> | "Virtualization" means a lot of things. |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | I KNOW why this backup failed. |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | Wrong fucking tapes. |
| 06:29 | < randolph> | heh |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | The entire job fluked. |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | It wasn't the quarterly. |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | It was still the monthly. |
| 06:29 | | * randolph summons the Mcmartin from the depths by intoning his name |
| 06:29 | <@McMartin> | If it's software repackaging he's probably in App Virtualization, which has very little to do with VDI, and our VDIness is massively variant anyway. |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | Well, way to fuck that up. |
| 06:29 | < Ceddo> | Alrightey. |
| 06:30 | <@McMartin> | It makes my console beep! |
| 06:30 | < Ceddo> | Gotta go get the tapes, mount the data, stop the daily, reschedule the daily, keep the quartly (which are empty right now) in the tape drive and do it all by hand. |
| 06:30 | < Ceddo> | JOY. |
| 06:30 | < randolph> | The Page of Cthulhu |
| 06:30 | < Ceddo> | Oh well. |
| 06:30 | < Ceddo> | The rest runs fine. |
| 06:31 | < Dukayn> | Sorry was sending an email to the boss |
| 06:31 | < Ceddo> | Could be worse. :D |
| 06:31 | <@McMartin> | The legends are unclear whether or not McMartin regularly plays poker with Cthulhu |
| 06:31 | < Dukayn> | Yes, mostly App Virtualization |
| 06:31 | < Ceddo> | UNACCEPTABLE. |
| 06:31 | <@McMartin> | Or, indeed, if he uses elder gods as beta testers |
| 06:31 | < Dukayn> | And Ced, I feel your pain re fucked backups |
| 06:31 | < Ceddo> | Thanks. |
| 06:31 | < Dukayn> | bane of my existence when I was in Tech Support |
| 06:31 | < Ceddo> | The worst is ... not my fault. |
| 06:31 | < Ceddo> | Coworker put in the wrong tapes. |
| 06:32 | <@McMartin> | That means you get to be a goddamn hero |
| 06:32 | < Dukayn> | Yeah, that happens way more than it should |
| 06:32 | < Ceddo> | Quartlies, when monthly was scheduled. |
| 06:32 | <@McMartin> | "afk: being a goddamned hero" |
| 06:32 | < Ceddo> | Now I have an unanswered mount request. |
| 06:32 | < Ceddo> | Oh, Mittens has been lazy lately. |
| 06:32 | < Dukayn> | brb, playing with toddler shit |
| 06:32 | < Ceddo> | 1 new element on FlickR? |
| 06:33 | <@McMartin> | Dukayn: Duplos? >_> |
| 06:33 | < randolph> | <Ceddo> Now I have an unanswered mount request. |
| 06:34 | < randolph> | Usually that means they want to be friends |
| 06:34 | < Ceddo> | Yes. |
| 06:34 | < Ceddo> | Very friendly. |
| 06:34 | < Ceddo> | Oh. |
| 06:34 | < Ceddo> | Randy. |
| 06:34 | < Dukayn> | McMartin: nah, dirty nappy |
| 06:35 | < Ceddo> | You crunch numbers like nuts, do my reports help your insights? |
| 06:35 | <@McMartin> | It took me a bit to realize you meant literally, yeah. |
| 06:35 | < Ceddo> | Sometimes I feel like it's all for nought, getting fairly little feedback. :D |
| 06:35 | < randolph> | Ced: They will, I just have been nose-to-grindstone on the writing |
| 06:35 | < randolph> | Translation: Fucking around on IRC |
| 06:35 | < Ceddo> | Oh you and your theatrical play. |
| 06:36 | < Ceddo> | Sounds legit. |
| 06:36 | < randolph> | I wrote like, 30% of it today |
| 06:36 | < randolph> | (Ch 3) |
| 06:37 | < Ceddo> | I wrote two paragraphs in the train this morning. :D |
| 06:37 | < randolph> | Nice! |
| 06:37 | < Dukayn> | I wrote 3 lines of my company fluff |
| 06:37 | < Dukayn> | 2 days ago |
| 06:37 | < Dukayn> | then deleted them |
| 06:37 | < randolph> | And actually, I was discussing your sims earlier and what they show about the effects of Ys, but I haven't rolled up my sleeves yet and dug in |
| 06:38 | < randolph> | @ Ced |
| 06:38 | < Ceddo> | Yay. |
| 06:38 | < Ceddo> | My protocolling is getting better with each game. |
| 06:38 | < Ceddo> | First game: on half-letter sheet. |
| 06:38 | < Ceddo> | Second game: two half-letter sheets. |
| 06:38 | < Ceddo> | Third game: 2 half letter sheets for each side. |
| 06:38 | < randolph> | Define protocolling here? |
| 06:38 | < Ceddo> | :D |
| 06:39 | < randolph> | Like in-fiction field manual? |
| 06:39 | < Ceddo> | I write down activation order, damage dealt, systems lost, DEF rolled and Spots taken. |
| 06:39 | < Ceddo> | No, I ... protocol the games. |
| 06:39 | < Dukayn> | ah, he means "note taking" :P |
| 06:39 | < Ceddo> | What. |
| 06:39 | < randolph> | oh, logging |
| 06:39 | < Dukayn> | Dude I don't think protocol is a verb |
| 06:39 | < randolph> | it can be |
| 06:39 | < Ceddo> | Oh. |
| 06:39 | < randolph> | The military verbs damn near everything |
| 06:40 | < Dukayn> | Doesn't mean it's legit :P |
| 06:40 | < Ceddo> | You guys are right. |
| 06:40 | < randolph> | LEGITING, PRIVATE |
| 06:40 | < Dukayn> | I'm totally legiting that :P |
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| 06:40 | < Ceddo> | The technical term for "protokollieren" is "to log". |
| 06:40 | < Ceddo> | Oh, BOO. |
| 06:40 | < Ceddo> | You and your limited language. |
| 06:40 | < Dukayn> | "log" is quicker to type |
| 06:40 | < Ceddo> | Why don't you take half of my words away. |
| 06:40 | < Dukayn> | you should be thanking up |
| 06:40 | < Dukayn> | us* |
| 06:41 | < Dukayn> | EFFICIENCY |
| 06:41 | < randolph> | He can't there's no word for it |
| 06:41 | < Dukayn> | he's German, not Dothraki |
| 06:41 | < Ceddo> | Okay, Dukey. |
| 06:41 | < Ceddo> | Counter-argument. |
| 06:41 | < randolph> | Legit you, bro. |
| 06:41 | < randolph> | (I don't get "Dothraki" reference) |
| 06:41 | < Dukayn> | Game of Thrones thing |
| 06:41 | < randolph> | ah |
| 06:41 | < Dukayn> | they have no word for "Thank You". |
| 06:42 | < randolph> | heh |
| 06:42 | < Dukayn> | I assume they probably don't have "sorry" either |
| 06:42 | < Dukayn> | Cos, well, Dothraki |
| 06:42 | < randolph> | "And this is how we say goodbye in Germany" *smack* |
| 06:42 | < randolph> | </indy> |
| 06:42 | < Dukayn> | OK either Ced's counter argument was literally "counter-argument" or he's taking a long-ass time typing it |
| 06:42 | < randolph> | I think he's compiling a list of words we left out of the Ark^WEnglish language |
| 06:44 | < Ceddo> | log -> notes, tree trunk, speed measuring device, slab of wood, block, round piece of wood, numerical report, door frame stabilisation brace, fault notebook, mining notebook, ramming notebook, logarithm ... |
| 06:44 | < Ceddo> | That's retarded. |
| 06:44 | < Ceddo> | All of those are singular words in German. |
| 06:44 | < randolph> | I was close |
| 06:44 | < randolph> | No, see, that's efficient |
| 06:44 | < randolph> | This way, it's pre-compression, it puts the processing load on the listener. |
| 06:45 | < Ceddo> | Do you know the difference between distinct and distinct-distinct? |
| 06:45 | < Ceddo> | Because we have up a word for that. |
| 06:45 | < Ceddo> | -up |
| 06:45 | < Dukayn> | I freely acknowledge English is the stupidest language on the planet. |
| 06:45 | < Ceddo> | Well, you know SOME German. |
| 06:45 | < randolph> | I do! |
| 06:45 | < Ceddo> | "eindeutig" and "eineindeutig". |
| 06:45 | < Dukayn> | Doesn't change that you got it wrong ;P |
| 06:45 | < randolph> | :x |
| 06:46 | < Ceddo> | log is neither "eindeutig", nor "eineindeutig". |
| 06:46 | < Dukayn> | no, it's... log |
| 06:46 | < Ceddo> | "protokollieren" is "eineindeutig". |
| 06:46 | < Ceddo> | :D |
| 06:46 | < randolph> | English isn't the stupidest language. That'd be Esperanto. |
| 06:46 | < Dukayn> | I'm so glad I stopped studying languages in 1999 |
| 06:46 | < Ceddo> | Dukey, "eindeutig" means "singular meaning", as an adjective. |
| 06:46 | < randolph> | What English is, is promiscuous |
| 06:47 | < Ceddo> | And "eineindeutig" means "singular singular meaning". |
| 06:47 | <@McMartin> | English is all the languages. |
| 06:47 | < Ceddo> | Bilaterally unique, you could say. |
| 06:47 | < Dukayn> | and wtf is a "singular singular meaning"? |
| 06:47 | <@McMartin> | If we find a language that does something we can't, we mug it and takes its stuff and then we can do it too |
| 06:47 | < randolph> | It has the essence. |
| 06:47 | < Ceddo> | If a word in one direction can only have one meaning, it's "eindeutig". |
| 06:47 | < randolph> | So it's like the Borg. |
| 06:47 | < randolph> | Engborg. |
| 06:47 | < randolph> | Borglish. |
| 06:47 | < Ceddo> | If the same is true the other way, it's "eineindeutig". |
| 06:48 | <@McMartin> | Also, rifle through their pockets for any juicy new vocabulary. |
| 06:48 | < randolph> | Duk: 1->1 mapping vs. 1:1 mapping |
| 06:48 | < Dukayn> | I didn't know words had directions :/ |
| 06:48 | < Dukayn> | Except for left-right :P |
| 06:48 | <@McMartin> | Are we going for injective vs. bijective here or surjective vs. bijective? |
| 06:48 | < randolph> | Chinese. Up down |
| 06:48 | < Dukayn> | >_< |
| 06:48 | < Dukayn> | SHUT UP :P |
| 06:48 | <@McMartin> | There are boustrophedonal languages, too. |
| 06:48 | <@McMartin> | I don't think there are any *any more* |
| 06:48 | <@McMartin> | But left to right and right to left on alternating lines |
| 06:48 | < Dukayn> | Not what I meant |
| 06:48 | < Tetrajak_> | And I'm back |
| 06:48 | < Dukayn> | And not what Ced means, I think |
| 06:49 | < Tetrajak_> | man, that took longer than expected |
| 06:49 | <@McMartin> | So there's no need to reset your HBLANK, you just go like plowing a field. |
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| 06:50 | <@McMartin> | The closest I can actually pull out of this, not being a jackass is, "There are concepts with more than word to describe them, and there are words that denote more than one concept". |
| 06:50 | <@McMartin> | To which I say, well, yeah. |
| 06:50 | < randolph> | Between languages MCM |
| 06:50 | <@McMartin> | Er, more than *one* word to describe them |
| 06:50 | <@McMartin> | Oh. |
| 06:50 | < randolph> | he's complaining that "log" is overloaded |
| 06:50 | <@McMartin> | Well then, Even More Yeah. |
| 06:51 | < randolph> | See; Eskimo Snow |
| 06:51 | <@McMartin> | Or, you know, English snow, when you bring in pack vs. powder vs slush vs etc |
| 06:51 | < randolph> | Asian languages: Rice |
| 06:51 | < randolph> | no, see |
| 06:51 | < randolph> | "pack" doesn't mean snow in English |
| 06:51 | < randolph> | Pack is a type of snow in English |
| 06:52 | < randolph> | Just like "reddish-brown" is not a word in English |
| 06:52 | < Dukayn> | neither is Snooki but that didn't stop her mum |
| 06:52 | < randolph> | snerk |
| 06:52 | < randolph> | They don't speak English there, Duk |
| 06:52 | < Dukayn> | hahaha true |
| 06:52 | < Dukayn> | Guido is it's own language |
| 06:53 | < randolph> | MCM: I'm trying to convey the difference between "can be rendered intelligible in English" and "has a specific word" |
| 06:53 | <@McMartin> | That's a concept map, though |
| 06:53 | <@McMartin> | There's nothing *stopping* you from putting the meaning-shadings into adjectives or modifiers. |
| 06:53 | <@McMartin> | English tends to pick different nouns, but that's because we have *so many* |
| 06:53 | <@McMartin> | So it can kind of pick up shades so that the one we mugged from Latin sounds cold, and the one French mugged *us* with sounds high-class, etc. |
| 06:53 | <@McMartin> | Also, I'm lagging out, so I have no idea how much of this will get through. |
| 06:53 | < Dukayn> | I think I just "got' what Ced is saying |
| 06:53 | < randolph> | MCM: You're back ish |
| 06:54 | < randolph> | The distinction is still there, though. |
| 06:54 | < randolph> | Promoting a concept map to its own word is a language snob's threshold |
| 06:55 | < randolph> | So, I mean, "uncooked rice" all you want, but it's not "mi" |
| 06:55 | | * randolph pokes MCM's connection |
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| 06:57 | < Dukayn> | MCM has connection issues |
| 06:58 | < randolph> | wb |
| 06:59 | <@McMartin> | What was the last thing I said? |
| 06:59 | < randolph> | <@McMartin> Also, I'm lagging out, so I have no idea how much of this will get through. |
| 06:59 | | * McMartin was mid-rant |
| 06:59 | <@McMartin> | OK, that was in fact the last thing I said. |
| 06:59 | < randolph> | I said: The distinction is still there, though. Promoting a concept map to its own word is a language snob's threshold. So, I mean, "uncooked rice" all you want, but it's not "mi" |
| 07:00 | <@McMartin> | Sure |
| 07:00 | <@McMartin> | I'd also add that you'd need to put context in |
| 07:00 | < randolph> | I think it's the difference between "can be constructed from other functions" and defining its own function |
| 07:00 | <@McMartin> | The words for talking about the bits of grain are going to be very different in a botanical context than in a baking one. |
| 07:01 | < randolph> | You know, I don't think that's true |
| 07:01 | <@McMartin> | Hm. |
| 07:01 | <@McMartin> | So, I'm not a good enough baker to know offhand |
| 07:01 | <@McMartin> | But I'd expect there to be a zillion subconcept words under "dough" |
| 07:01 | < randolph> | Right, but "rice" |
| 07:01 | < randolph> | Not "grain of rice" |
| 07:02 | < Ceddo> | Honestly, as a baker, you appreciate grain in two forms. |
| 07:02 | < Ceddo> | Decoration and flower. |
| 07:02 | < Ceddo> | *flour |
| 07:02 | < afny> | Even rice flour is just flour |
| 07:02 | < Ceddo> | False friends. D: |
| 07:02 | < randolph> | heh |
| 07:02 | < Ceddo> | Flour's not just flour. |
| 07:02 | < Ceddo> | I firmly disagree. |
| 07:02 | < afny> | Well I don't mean you would just call it "flour" |
| 07:02 | < randolph> | One of my favorite lines in Stranger than Fiction was "I got you flowers" |
| 07:02 | < randolph> | er |
| 07:02 | < randolph> | "I got you flours" |
| 07:03 | < randolph> | (He's holding a box of assorted baking flours" |
| 07:03 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, OK, I can disprove "flour's just flour" by walking down an aisle at the market, really |
| 07:03 | < randolph> | ) |
| 07:03 | < afny> | but there's not a special word for rice flour |
| 07:03 | < Ceddo> | Rice flour does nicely. |
| 07:03 | < afny> | I have no idea what we're talking about by the way |
| 07:03 | < afny> | I just looked over here. |
| 07:03 | < Ceddo> | Flour. |
| 07:03 | < randolph> | WORDS |
| 07:03 | < Ceddo> | I dunno either. |
| 07:03 | < afny> | I like WHOLE WHEAT. |
| 07:03 | < Ceddo> | Randy is on a rant. |
| 07:03 | < afny> | Oh shit I'm going to go have some bread right now. |
| 07:03 | < Ceddo> | I like rye. |
| 07:03 | < randolph> | Deadly killing words, like SOURDOUGH |
| 07:03 | <@McMartin> | WANT SOME RYE? |
| 07:04 | < Ceddo> | Mostly with a shot of lemon juice. |
| 07:04 | <@McMartin> | 'COURSE YOU DO |
| 07:04 | <@McMartin> | str |
| 07:04 | < Ceddo> | Oh yeah, babycakes. |
| 07:04 | < randolph> | This is now a Dune / Good Eats crossover |
| 07:04 | < Ceddo> | In Germany, I drink beer. |
| 07:04 | < Ceddo> | In Canada, I drank Rye. |
| 07:04 | < randolph> | In the US you drink canoes. |
| 07:04 | < Ceddo> | Considerable amounts. |
| 07:05 | < Ceddo> | In the US, I can't even fucking drink water because you bleach EVEN THAT. |
| 07:05 | <@McMartin> | randolph: In the US you drink hops sir. |
| 07:05 | < randolph> | No no, canoes, because of that terrible joke. |
| 07:05 | < Ceddo> | Let alone your FLOUR. You culinary mass murderers. |
| 07:05 | <@McMartin> | What kind of madman drinks flour? |
| 07:05 | < Ceddo> | No, you bleach it. |
| 07:05 | <@McMartin> | You're shopping in the wrong places |
| 07:05 | < randolph> | I'll have you know, SIR, that I drink locally grown, pesticide-free, free-range, antibiotic free, INDIE water. |
| 07:05 | < Ceddo> | Admittedly. |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | We had a guy from South Africa visit last week, he got elk burgers on wheat. |
| 07:06 | < randolph> | It has never had a top 40. |
| 07:06 | < Ceddo> | My whole perception fo the US is Walmart. |
| 07:06 | < randolph> | gah |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, that's not the US. |
| 07:06 | < Ceddo> | Totes is! |
| 07:06 | < randolph> | Walmart is where shoppers go to die |
| 07:06 | < Ceddo> | Leave me my illsuions. |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | Walmart just destroyed large chunks of the US *first* |
| 07:06 | < afny> | The US has plenty of good products |
| 07:06 | < afny> | but we ALSO have WalMart. |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | The thing about American beer is that we drink it all before it gets exported |
| 07:06 | < Dukayn> | It's brilliant, really |
| 07:06 | < randolph> | The US is like English - promiscuous |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | Also, we use way too much hops. |
| 07:07 | < Dukayn> | You create Walmart |
| 07:07 | < afny> | You can't use too many hops. |
| 07:07 | < Dukayn> | that way all the dregs coalesce in one place |
| 07:07 | < Dukayn> | I'm sure eventually there'll be a mass explosion in all Walmart stores. |
| 07:07 | < Dukayn> | The global perception of the US increases 300% |
| 07:07 | <@McMartin> | I like the idea that the US created Walmart the way Sunnydale created Hell |
| 07:07 | <@McMartin> | This also implies that somewhere near Walton's hometown is the dreaded Walmouth |
| 07:08 | < randolph> | You know, there was that stampede death at Walmart awhile ago |
| 07:08 | <@McMartin> | Every year |
| 07:08 | < randolph> | Deaths? |
| 07:08 | < randolph> | Every year? |
| 07:08 | < Dukayn> | Black Friday |
| 07:08 | <@McMartin> | It's like our version of football hooligans |
| 07:08 | < randolph> | Huh. |
| 07:08 | < Dukayn> | what a fantastic idea that is |
| 07:08 | < Dukayn> | double thumbs up on that one |
| 07:09 | <@McMartin> | Dukayn: Only since Amazon arrived, really |
| 07:09 | <@McMartin> | Otherwise they're a threat to *everyone*, not just each other |
| 07:09 | <@McMartin> | randolph: Yeah, it's distressingly common |
| 07:09 | < randolph> | You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
| 07:09 | < Dukayn> | um, not sure of the context of that one sorry MCM |
| 07:09 | < Dukayn> | you mean re Black Friday? |
| 07:10 | < Ceddo> | Randy: Rats. |
| 07:10 | <@McMartin> | Yah |
| 07:10 | < randolph> | I think he's saying it's only safe once we had Amazon |
| 07:10 | <@McMartin> | I'm not actually kidding about the hooliganism thing - I have no explanation for it beyond "this is being perceived as a context in which they can basically let their violent ids go nuts. |
| 07:10 | < Dukayn> | Oh, I didn't include <sarcasm> tags did I |
| 07:10 | < randolph> | Nah, we're riffing off of you |
| 07:10 | < Ceddo> | <@McMartin> The thing about American beer is that we drink it all before it gets exported <-- Thank god. |
| 07:10 | < Dukayn> | I think it's disgracefully irresponsible of the retail industry to allow it |
| 07:10 | < randolph> | MCM: I don't think it's perceived like that |
| 07:10 | < randolph> | I think it's actually triggering a break |
| 07:11 | <@McMartin> | Is that short for "psychotic break" or is this a term of art I don't fully know? |
| 07:11 | < Dukayn> | That's what I assumed |
| 07:11 | < randolph> | I'm being imprecise because I can't remember my vocabulary |
| 07:11 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 07:11 | < Dukayn> | psychotic break, yes |
| 07:11 | < Dukayn> | that perfectly describes Black Friday shoppers |
| 07:11 | < Dukayn> | OMFG I MUST BUY ALL THE THINGS |
| 07:12 | <@McMartin> | Ceddo: Dropping pretense for a moment, the actual stereotypical American beer should be Sierra Nevada IPA, not Budweiser. |
| 07:12 | < Dukayn> | YOU ARE IN MY WAY DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE |
| 07:12 | <@McMartin> | Dukayn: So, uh, R and I have been philosophical sparring partners for, um |
| 07:12 | < randolph> | MCM: I had no idea you were a connosseur. |
| 07:12 | | * McMartin counts |
| 07:12 | <@McMartin> | about 15 years now |
| 07:12 | < randolph> | I guess you finally found a beer you like |
| 07:12 | <@McMartin> | I'm not. |
| 07:12 | < randolph> | ah |
| 07:12 | < randolph> | '96, so yeah, near 15 |
| 07:13 | <@McMartin> | I do, however, occasionally have to entertain foreigners, and that means getting them proper beer lists. |
| 07:13 | < randolph> | er near 16 |
| 07:13 | <@McMartin> | Also, brewpubs tend to have pretty good food. |
| 07:13 | < randolph> | I HAVE BEEN ARGUING WITH YOU FOR HALF MY LIFE |
| 07:13 | < randolph> | (hyperbole) |
| 07:13 | < Dukayn> | sorry, I'm not sure where I weighed in on the beer convo :P |
| 07:13 | <@McMartin> | I've noticed visitors gravitate towards the darker ones, but AFAICT those are never exported even beyond county limits |
| 07:13 | < afny> | the problem with American beer isn't that we don't have any |
| 07:13 | < afny> | it's that we don't have any in cans |
| 07:13 | <@McMartin> | randolph: Only barely hyperbole |
| 07:14 | < randolph> | Well the arguing part. |
| 07:14 | < randolph> | Sometimes we merely discuss in stern tones. |
| 07:14 | < afny> | I mean you can't go and get a six pack of decent beer for less than 8 bucks |
| 07:14 | < randolph> | Or shoot each others' mans |
| 07:14 | < afny> | at least not around here |
| 07:14 | <@McMartin> | Fair enough |
| 07:14 | < randolph> | Oh man, now I wonder how Jason Cohen fared in his philosophical perspective. |
| 07:15 | < Dukayn> | dammit, my heatpump is set to 24?C how am I cold? |
| 07:16 | <@McMartin> | I occasionally wonder about that proto-Objectivist we used for target practice |
| 07:16 | < Ceddo> | MCM: I do like IPAs. |
| 07:16 | < randolph> | Kevin |
| 07:16 | < Ceddo> | Bud isn't beer. |
| 07:16 | <@McMartin> | Or maybe that was just me |
| 07:16 | < Ceddo> | It's beer-flavored water. |
| 07:16 | < randolph> | I was trying to reform him |
| 07:16 | < Ceddo> | And the flavor is "poop". |
| 07:16 | <@McMartin> | Ceddo: On this we agree |
| 07:16 | <@McMartin> | This also means that when people talk about American Beer I tend to think of the stuff the brewpubs have. |
| 07:17 | <@McMartin> | Which is, um |
| 07:17 | <@McMartin> | Not usually what people mean |
| 07:17 | < Ceddo> | Nah. |
| 07:17 | < Ceddo> | They mean Coors Light. |
| 07:17 | < afny> | But it's a misconception |
| 07:17 | < Ceddo> | As in: More poop water. |
| 07:17 | < afny> | I mean surely you have shitty, really cheap beer in Germany |
| 07:17 | | * McMartin is, however, reminded. |
| 07:17 | < randolph> | Maybe they have a word for that, that isn't "beer" |
| 07:17 | < Ceddo> | Yeah, we just don't advertise it. |
| 07:17 | <@McMartin> | Yeast is a loving and mysterious God |
| 07:17 | <@McMartin> | It receives our offerings of food and water |
| 07:17 | < Ceddo> | randolph: Piss. |
| 07:17 | < afny> | Yeah, I guess the difference is just advertising |
| 07:17 | <@McMartin> | And it rewards us with alcohol and bread |
| 07:18 | < randolph> | It turns blood into wine! |
| 07:18 | < afny> | anyone who actually enjoys the taste of beer here buys get beer, and it's available |
| 07:18 | < Ceddo> | afny: Shitty beer doesn't do well over here. |
| 07:18 | < Ceddo> | Coors and Bud does. |
| 07:18 | < Ceddo> | I don't get it. :D |
| 07:18 | < randolph> | Because it's AMERICAN? |
| 07:18 | <@McMartin> | Wait, it does well *over there*? |
| 07:18 | < MittenNinja> | Ceddo, that's shitty beer |
| 07:18 | < afny> | Yeah, those are the standard "shitty beer" here |
| 07:19 | < afny> | everyone hates them |
| 07:19 | < randolph> | Also Corona |
| 07:19 | < MittenNinja> | Eh corona is ok |
| 07:19 | < afny> | Hey buddy |
| 07:19 | < afny> | you want a lime in that |
| 07:19 | < randolph> | Hehe |
| 07:19 | < Ceddo> | MCM: Nah, I meant ... those beers do well in the US. |
| 07:19 | < Ceddo> | And I don't get why. |
| 07:19 | < MittenNinja> | Give.me tecate over corona any day |
| 07:19 | < afny> | Oh |
| 07:19 | < randolph> | Oh, well, Ced... it's like Walmart |
| 07:19 | < afny> | it's because they're marketed to A) rednecks |
| 07:19 | < randolph> | There's no accounting for taste |
| 07:19 | < randolph> | Also, cheap |
| 07:19 | < afny> | and B) college kids who don't have any taste and just want to buy case upon case and drink forever |
| 07:20 | < Tetrajak_> | I'm off, peeps, I'll see you all later (I'm sure) |
| 07:20 | < Ceddo> | Over here, you have several beers, locally, regionally, stately and countrywide. |
| 07:20 | < afny> | that's supposed to be a B. |
| 07:20 | < randolph> | nn TJ |
| 07:20 | < Dukayn> | We don't have much in the way of imported beer here |
| 07:20 | < MittenNinja> | That's because people over here don't care about what it tastes like. The media tells them to drink it and they do. |
| 07:20 | < Dukayn> | Night TJ |
| 07:20 | < Ceddo> | We import only few beers. Most from the Czech republic. |
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| 07:20 | < MittenNinja> | Not everyone mind you |
| 07:20 | < Ceddo> | Budweiser, for example. |
| 07:20 | < MittenNinja> | But the masses do |
| 07:20 | < Ceddo> | From Budvar. ;) |
| 07:20 | <@McMartin> | ... are they using it to strip paint? |
| 07:20 | <@McMartin> | is the water infested? |
| 07:21 | < Dukayn> | To be honest I don't even know what imports we have outside Corona |
| 07:21 | < Ceddo> | What, Budvar? |
| 07:21 | < Ceddo> | It's a really, really good beer. |
| 07:21 | < MittenNinja> | If you want good American beer look into Sam Adams, leinekugels, New Belgium, etc |
| 07:21 | < Ceddo> | It has NOTHING to do with the American Bud. |
| 07:21 | <@McMartin> | For whatever reason, people visiting from Australia have consistently been pro-Michelob. |
| 07:21 | <@McMartin> | Of course, they *also* said Los Angeles had the most polite drivers they had ever seen. |
| 07:21 | < randolph> | hahahaha |
| 07:21 | <@McMartin> | In unrelated news, I'm never driving anywhere in Australia. |
| 07:21 | < MittenNinja> | They lie |
| 07:21 | < randolph> | MCM, to be fair |
| 07:22 | < Ceddo> | I SO want to drive there. |
| 07:22 | < randolph> | Rome makes Los Angeles drivers look like Minbari |
| 07:22 | < afny> | I sort of had the impression that Australia had no concept of good beer |
| 07:22 | < Dukayn> | WAT |
| 07:22 | < MittenNinja> | You should see Minnesotans |
| 07:22 | < Ceddo> | Metric system, driving on the wrong side with way to much HP and a speedlimit of 50 kph. |
| 07:22 | < Ceddo> | *too |
| 07:22 | <@McMartin> | randolph: "In Boston the drivers refuse to obey even the laws of physics" |
| 07:22 | < Dukayn> | afny: I CHALLENGE THEE TO A DUEL |
| 07:22 | < MittenNinja> | They will sit for a minute at a four way intersection trying to let you go |
| 07:22 | < randolph> | MCM: I've been in Boston. Rome is worse. |
| 07:22 | < Ceddo> | Dukayn: I CHALLENGE THEE ASWELL, THEN. |
| 07:23 | < MittenNinja> | And the other person is like |
| 07:23 | < afny> | I mean that in the way that like, people don't think America has a concept of good beer. |
| 07:23 | < afny> | What do bogans drink? |
| 07:23 | < MittenNinja> | No I insist you go |
| 07:23 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, I think this is more "Californians are the monster under the bed" stuff. |
| 07:23 | <@McMartin> | I mean, I grew up in San Diego, we were all fighter pilots |
| 07:23 | < randolph> | San Francisco has worse drivers than LA |
| 07:23 | <@McMartin> | That *can* be "impolite", but it can also be, well |
| 07:23 | < Ceddo> | I am, in all actuality, a tank driving Nazi. |
| 07:23 | <@McMartin> | EFFICIENCY |
| 07:24 | < Ceddo> | Tanks rarely stop. Unless they want to. |
| 07:24 | < randolph> | My old theory was that LA had better drivers because everyone was *packing heat* |
| 07:24 | <@McMartin> | SF's roads were designed by Nyarlathotep |
| 07:24 | < randolph> | No, even freeway |
| 07:24 | <@McMartin> | Oh, Bay Area |
| 07:24 | < Dukayn> | afny: for the record, Australian beers are in general quite good. What we don't like, we export to the US. |
| 07:24 | < randolph> | The only time it was even close is in the rain |
| 07:24 | <@McMartin> | Yeah |
| 07:24 | <@McMartin> | They aren't good, and they aren't super agressive. |
| 07:24 | < Ceddo> | Foster's. :D |
| 07:24 | < randolph> | In LA, when it rains, theyre like AUGH WHAT IS THIS |
| 07:24 | < Dukayn> | ^^ |
| 07:24 | < Dukayn> | Case in point |
| 07:24 | < afny> | But what do the BOGANS drink?! |
| 07:25 | < Dukayn> | Whatever's cheapest |
| 07:25 | < Ceddo> | The aboriginees? |
| 07:25 | < Dukayn> | Petrol |
| 07:25 | <@McMartin> | Seattle was worse than the Bay Area |
| 07:25 | <@McMartin> | Since there the drivers seemed to be aggressive *and* bad |
| 07:25 | < Dukayn> | Metho |
| 07:25 | < Ceddo> | Harsh. |
| 07:25 | < randolph> | haha |
| 07:25 | < Dukayn> | But true :( |
| 07:25 | <@McMartin> | (Protip: Only one e in "aborigines") |
| 07:25 | < Ceddo> | Poor natives. |
| 07:25 | < randolph> | I've yet to visit Seattle |
| 07:25 | < Dukayn> | They don't even get to own casinos here. |
| 07:25 | < Ceddo> | MCM: I like my vowels. There will be lots of extras. |
| 07:25 | <@McMartin> | So, like, WA-99 bisects the city and DOESN'T HAVE OVERPASSES |
| 07:25 | <@McMartin> | So there's a shitload of You Can't Get There From Here |
| 07:25 | < randolph> | hee |
| 07:26 | < randolph> | That's not the drivers' fault tho |
| 07:26 | <@McMartin> | No, it's not, but it influences the driving experience |
| 07:26 | < afny> | I just like saying the word bogan. |
| 07:26 | <@McMartin> | As a single driver it blends together |
| 07:26 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 07:26 | < randolph> | Well, you'd be hell on wheels if city planners actively hated you |
| 07:26 | < Dukayn> | I'm impressed you know what a bogan is |
| 07:26 | <@McMartin> | Ceddo: So, rule of thumb: English is like Dutch, but you halve all the vowels |
| 07:26 | < afny> | I also know what chavs are |
| 07:26 | < afny> | but bogans are much cooler. |
| 07:27 | | Soren|away is now known as Soren |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | That's so few vowels, though. |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | Welcome back, Soren. |
| 07:27 | < Soren> | ty |
| 07:27 | < randolph> | You wanna buy a vowel, you fuckin' talk to Vanna. |
| 07:27 | < randolph> | Wait, she retired. Shit. |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | Nah, I wanna go for a smoke. |
| 07:27 | <@McMartin> | f y cn rd ths thn t prbbl snt Dtch |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | Hence I will. |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | ANd you shall remain here. |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | WITHOUT ME. |
| 07:27 | < Ceddo> | *wanders off* |
| 07:27 | < Dukayn> | Thank fuck for that :P |
| 07:28 | | Ceddo is now known as Ced|SmokingHot |
| 07:28 | < randolph> | haha |
| 07:28 | < Dukayn> | you misspelled "pot" again Ced |
| 07:30 | < Dukayn> | Oh, I hope that was a car backfiring |
| 07:32 | < MittenNinja> | Lol |
| 07:32 | | Dukayn is now known as Dukayn[AFK] |
| 07:33 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | time for food |
| 07:33 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | and to set GoT downloading |
| 07:39 | | Ced|SmokingHot is now known as Ceddobear |
| 07:39 | < Ceddobear> | I have returned. |
| 07:39 | | * randolph gets a restraining order. |
| 07:39 | < Ceddobear> | I restrained your mom last night. |
| 07:40 | < randolph> | It's funny because of societal sexual taboos and patriarchalism! |
| 07:40 | < Ceddobear> | And because she is a classy lady. |
| 07:40 | < Ceddobear> | A classy, lovely lady. |
| 07:41 | < randolph> | http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0042/9942/products/classyladyw_det_medium.jpg?1 00677 |
| 07:41 | < Ceddobear> | I don't even. |
| 07:42 | < randolph> | It's a great shirt. |
| 07:42 | < randolph> | http://levelselect.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/20080811.jpg |
| 07:42 | < randolph> | ^ source |
| 07:46 | < Ceddobear> | I get it now. |
| 07:46 | < Ceddobear> | She is. |
| 07:47 | < Ceddobear> | I am dreading the time gap. |
| 07:48 | < Ceddobear> | Soon, you will all break away. |
| 07:48 | < randolph> | Heh. |
| 07:48 | < randolph> | And you'll have 8 hours of silence. |
| 07:48 | < randolph> | Well, Duk will be here |
| 07:48 | < Ceddobear> | He's a trooper. |
| 07:48 | < Ceddobear> | Oh, Randy. |
| 07:48 | < Ceddobear> | I am suggesting a few name changes for loadouts. |
| 07:49 | < randolph> | k |
| 07:49 | < Ceddobear> | DF DF Y x is Big Gun. G makes it a Fast Big Gun, B a Tough Big Gun. |
| 07:49 | < Ceddobear> | DF Y Y x is a Captain. G is Fast, B is Tough, again. |
| 07:50 | < randolph> | What's DF DF Y Y |
| 07:50 | < Ceddobear> | A Y Y x is Arty. Fast/Tough |
| 07:50 | < Ceddobear> | Smart Big Gun? :D |
| 07:50 | < randolph> | heh |
| 07:50 | < randolph> | Captain Compensator |
| 07:50 | < randolph> | Captain Compensation? |
| 07:50 | < Ceddobear> | Heh. |
| 07:50 | < Ceddobear> | Inferiority Complex Captain. |
| 07:51 | < Ceddobear> | Anyway, I like to make Fast/Tough a distinction. |
| 07:51 | < randolph> | nod |
| 07:51 | < Ceddobear> | So A/DF Y Y x would be USF. Fast USF is G, Tough USF is B. |
| 07:52 | < randolph> | I can see that a more modular approach with obvious prefixes/suffixes will have more widespread traction |
| 07:52 | < Ceddobear> | Exactly. |
| 07:52 | < MittenNinja> | I agree and support this movement |
| 07:52 | < Ceddobear> | You only need to learn a few names and you can attach the obvious prefix/suffix. |
| 07:52 | < randolph> | I only lament the loss of punny names~ |
| 07:52 | < Ceddobear> | It actually was bred in play with Danni. |
| 07:53 | < Ceddobear> | We were playing and realized that 500 names are a hindrance. |
| 07:53 | < randolph> | They are - but some people memorize Pokemon too~ |
| 07:53 | < Ceddobear> | It's way more efficient to say "I put Big Guns there". |
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| 07:53 | < Ceddobear> | Because it means, DF DF Y stand there. |
| 07:53 | < Ceddobear> | Nevermind the G/B, it's an addition. |
| 07:54 | < Soren> | I like unit names that stick because they're short and funny. |
| 07:55 | < Soren> | "Thud" or "Rocketboy" |
| 07:55 | < randolph> | The ling/soc geek in me likes "nicknames" that are emergent ^ like that |
| 07:55 | < randolph> | But I do think modular will get more traction if the community takes off |
| 07:55 | < Soren> | descriptive and stupid, but also funny and memorable. |
| 07:55 | < randolph> | It'll likely be a bit of both |
| 07:55 | < MittenNinja> | Same here |
| 07:55 | < randolph> | Especially once we have a wiki |
| 07:55 | < MittenNinja> | We do have a wiki |
| 07:55 | < randolph> | Sorry, especially once that gets used :x |
| 07:56 | < randolph> | I didn't find a builds catalog last time I checked, was too lazy to do it |
| 07:56 | < afny> | what are you trying to name |
| 07:56 | < afny> | just combinations of systems? |
| 07:56 | < randolph> | But you could totally have: <build in systems> : <modular name> : AKA, <nicknames> |
| 07:56 | < randolph> | yes afny |
| 07:58 | < afny> | Personally I don't see the point in naming "builds" |
| 07:59 | < afny> | I guess it might sort of be useful when discussing tactics, but it just seems overcomplicated |
| 07:59 | < afny> | it's not like you need a whole character sheet to indicate what systems a frame has |
| 07:59 | < afny> | and each frame already has a name, or several |
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| 08:00 | < randolph> | A few reasons: 1) It's evocative, it lends immersion, 2) proper mapping means you can discuss mappings with real-world military tactics and strategy - if you read the history of the rules development, the mechanics were capturing the interplay between roles in real conflicts, 3) compression |
| 08:01 | < afny> | It doesn't really seem like it compresses things if you can describe a build with a few numbers |
| 08:01 | < randolph> | Mnemonic compression |
| 08:01 | < randolph> | Almost everyone uses "red first" but after that, I haven't seen much consensus of the ordering |
| 08:01 | < randolph> | So 2111 could mean a lot of things |
| 08:01 | < afny> | I don't think the order really matters |
| 08:02 | < afny> | you just put the letters in |
| 08:02 | < randolph> | that's not "just numbers" anymore |
| 08:02 | < afny> | and also, I don't think it adds immersion at all |
| 08:02 | < afny> | I mean, in-world, you wouldn't refer to your frame by its "build" |
| 08:02 | < randolph> | You totally would |
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| 08:02 | < afny> | not in the same way |
| 08:02 | < randolph> | "Make sure the artillery comes to support us" |
| 08:02 | < afny> | you would discuss its loadout |
| 08:02 | < afny> | and its role |
| 08:02 | < randolph> | Not "Make sure those fat snakes and hi-legs with artillery pieces come to support us" |
| 08:03 | < afny> | those aren't builds, or the hypothetical build names you're discussing |
| 08:03 | < afny> | those are names of guns and names of frames |
| 08:03 | < afny> | a hi-leg is a hi-leg no matter what it has equipped |
| 08:03 | < afny> | artillery is artillery |
| 08:03 | < afny> | but a "smasher" 2rD +d8 2B, or whatever |
| 08:04 | < afny> | isn't universal term that would be used in world to describe any medium range heavy mech |
| 08:04 | < randolph> | "I want the 5th in fighting shape by tomorrow, make sure they have... uh... well, two guys with artillery, and some jet packs, and extra shielding. One guy with artillery and a pistol..." |
| 08:04 | < afny> | it would literally be done like that |
| 08:04 | < afny> | you would request a loadout piece by piece |
| 08:04 | < afny> | with an inventory for munitions, for comms |
| 08:04 | < afny> | soldiers might have written orders, or it might be more loose |
| 08:05 | < randolph> | I dunno, man, for WT, each loadout is a special model designation |
| 08:05 | < randolph> | Gimme a WT-014A or e or eCV |
| 08:05 | < randolph> | It's a preset |
| 08:05 | < afny> | but that's not "in world", that's for a specific company with specific in-house regulations. |
| 08:05 | < randolph> | If it's efficient, other people will do it |
| 08:05 | < afny> | we don't call every cellphone with a touchscreen and 4G an iPhone, do we |
| 08:06 | < randolph> | Granted, not every organization can just fab the complete thing |
| 08:06 | < randolph> | Like the FC is going to be using whatever the hell they have, and jury-rig |
| 08:06 | < afny> | Same for some Ijad tribes, and some UMFL groups I'd bet |
| 08:06 | < randolph> | So they won't say "make that atlas meet x12 spec" |
| 08:06 | < randolph> | It'll be "rip off the claws and weld in the flak cannon" |
| 08:06 | < randolph> | or w/e |
| 08:06 | < afny> | Exactly |
| 08:06 | < afny> | that's my point |
| 08:07 | < randolph> | I see it. |
| 08:07 | < Soren> | Aaaand the penises are OUT, ladies and gentlemen - it looks like they're battling hard and strong right out of the zipper and we're going to start seeing some abrasions any second now! |
| 08:07 | < randolph> | It's still convenient on the meta level. |
| 08:07 | | * Ceddobear jumps into the fray. |
| 08:07 | < afny> | See, I just have to give him I show. Can't let his shoutcasting get rusty. |
| 08:07 | < Soren> | <- not a good person |
| 08:07 | < randolph> | Hey, I agreed with your point. |
| 08:07 | < randolph> | But stuff like USF... I don't want to type out any of the whole thing all the damned time |
| 08:08 | < Ceddobear> | "Ambercroft, I want Big Guns on the left flank, ASAP! Giabene, get your Arty over to hill #212, and shell those Grunts by the river!" |
| 08:08 | < afny> | I don't even know what USF is |
| 08:08 | < Ceddobear> | Totally works. |
| 08:08 | < randolph> | Universal Spotted Fire: Artillery/Direct Fire Split System, two Yellows, and (originally) 1 movement |
| 08:08 | < Ceddobear> | Universal Spotted Fire. Or so. :D |
| 08:08 | < afny> | I'm much more willing to accept terms like Grunts, big guns, and arty as "in world" |
| 08:08 | < randolph> | It's not just a description of its loadout, it's also its company philosophy |
| 08:08 | < afny> | than acronyms |
| 08:09 | < Ceddobear> | Grunt: DF Y x. It's an underbidding Soldier. |
| 08:09 | < randolph> | Hm. If I had to nickname it up in-world, it'd be an Eye Tyrant or Beholder :p |
| 08:09 | < randolph> | Sees everything, shoots everything |
| 08:09 | < randolph> | Cockblocks you |
| 08:09 | < afny> | my problem with the system is that Grunt could mean any sort of loadout |
| 08:09 | < afny> | and to the uninitiated, it would just be simpler to list the dice |
| 08:09 | < afny> | listing the dice has inherent information |
| 08:10 | < afny> | "grunt", if it has a specific meaning, needs some sort of index or table to tell you what it means. |
| 08:14 | < randolph> | Alright, nn happy lego folks |
| 08:15 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | afny: like this? http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=730 |
| 08:15 | | Dukayn[AFK] is now known as Dukayn |
| 08:16 | < afny> | I know it exists, and I think it's spurred good discussion |
| 08:16 | < afny> | but in the long run I think the terms are just confusing |
| 08:16 | < Dukayn> | I dunno, someone says "Soldier frame" and I know exactly what they mean |
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| 08:16 | < Ceddobear> | Soldier's DF Y B G: |
| 08:16 | < afny> | I guess, but only because you subscribe to that index |
| 08:17 | < afny> | I mean I understand that you guys like it, and I'm not telling you not to |
| 08:17 | < Ceddobear> | It's the most basic of all 'frame loadouts. |
| 08:17 | < Ceddobear> | It's the common foot soldier. |
| 08:17 | < afny> | but things get a little more murky when you're using descriptive words like "sniper" to describe a frame with a split weapons system |
| 08:17 | < afny> | when PLENTY of loadouts could easily be called a "sniper" |
| 08:17 | < Ceddobear> | Nah, I wouldn't do that anymore. |
| 08:17 | < Ceddobear> | It's ambiguous. |
| 08:18 | < afny> | that's my whole problem |
| 08:18 | < Dukayn> | True |
| 08:18 | < Ceddobear> | Well, I want more distinct names. :D |
| 08:18 | < afny> | it's all ambiguous, and arbitrarily defined |
| 08:18 | < Ceddobear> | Fast Big Guns pretty much tells you what's up. |
| 08:18 | < Dukayn> | But that's not to say that S, J and V couldn't come out and say "here are some standard loadouts and the names assigned to them" |
| 08:18 | < Ceddobear> | I think "Swarmer" is misleading. |
| 08:19 | < Ceddobear> | That 'frame swarms nothing by himself. |
| 08:19 | < Dukayn> | WEkk |
| 08:19 | < Dukayn> | Well* |
| 08:19 | < Ceddobear> | It's just a 2x HtH Soldier Loadout. |
| 08:19 | < afny> | I hope they don't |
| 08:19 | < afny> | why would they assign names to them |
| 08:19 | < afny> | I don't know why I care so much about this, but apparently I do |
| 08:19 | < afny> | I just think it'd be a bloated design choice if they did |
| 08:19 | | * Dukayn shrugs |
| 08:20 | < Dukayn> | I don't care either way to be honest |
| 08:20 | < Ceddobear> | Because you like your feeedom. |
| 08:20 | < Ceddobear> | *freedom |
| 08:20 | < afny> | THAT I DO. |
| 08:20 | < Dukayn> | People like assigning nicknames to things. |
| 08:20 | < Ceddobear> | My only motivation is streamlining of lingo for faster conversation. |
| 08:20 | < Dukayn> | Why does my mother in law call the remote control the "silly thing"? Cos she can. |
| 08:20 | < afny> | and also because it's HILARIOUS. |
| 08:20 | < Ceddobear> | And because she is a classy lady. |
| 08:20 | < afny> | ^ |
| 08:20 | < Dukayn> | Psh |
| 08:21 | < Ceddobear> | Back in the day, she used to take on entire classes, I mean. |
| 08:21 | < Ceddobear> | And the name ... |
| 08:21 | < Ceddobear> | !shades |
| 08:21 | < Ceddobear> | ... stuck. |
| 08:21 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 08:22 | < Dukayn> | That so didn't warrant a !shades |
| 08:22 | < Ceddobear> | I should totally use this command in the least appropriate ... |
| 08:22 | < Ceddobear> | !shades |
| 08:22 | < Ceddobear> | ... way. |
| 08:22 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 08:22 | < Ceddobear> | Everytime. |
| 08:22 | < Ceddobear> | Just to screw with people. |
| 08:23 | < Ceddobear> | The problem with the loadout 'frame name thread is simple. |
| 08:23 | < Ceddobear> | Erryone tries to rub one out harder and have even more manly names. |
| 08:23 | < Ceddobear> | BRICKWALL. POUNDER. SNIPER. STEEL RAIN. |
| 08:23 | < Ceddobear> | Etc. |
| 08:24 | < Dukayn> | I'mma name a 2H 2G loadout the "Hugger". Cos he LOVES HUGS. |
| 08:24 | < Dukayn> | And he just runs full pelt around the place trying to HUG ALL THE FRAMES |
| 08:25 | < randolph[laptop]> | frotteur |
| 08:25 | < Soren> | I need to use that name. |
| 08:25 | < Soren> | For something official. |
| 08:25 | < Dukayn> | The Hugger? |
| 08:26 | < Dukayn> | or the Frotteur |
| 08:26 | < Soren> | Frotteur. |
| 08:26 | < randolph[laptop]> | Maybe build a dog-based one. Call it a Frotweiler |
| 08:26 | < Soren> | haha |
| 08:26 | < Soren> | with a tiny doggy laser-boner. |
| 08:26 | < randolph[laptop]> | haha |
| 08:26 | < Soren> | To hump your leg into a fine paste. |
| 08:26 | < randolph[laptop]> | trans-red lightsaber blade? |
| 08:27 | < Soren> | pfff. |
| 08:27 | < Dukayn> | nah just a well placed minifig hand :P |
| 08:27 | < randolph[laptop]> | You said laser! |
| 08:27 | < Soren> | trans-yellow 1x1 round. |
| 08:27 | < randolph[laptop]> | heh |
| 08:27 | < Soren> | hang on. |
| 08:27 | < Ceddobear> | Sudden ... fatigue ... almost overwhelming ... |
| 08:27 | < Soren> | I will demonstrate. |
| 08:27 | < randolph[laptop]> | oh no |
| 08:27 | < Dukayn> | OH YES |
| 08:28 | < randolph[laptop]> | Duk: that reminds me, I wanted to make some terrain |
| 08:28 | < randolph[laptop]> | It's a brick wall with a Kool-Aid Man punched out |
| 08:28 | < Dukayn> | bahahahaha |
| 08:28 | < Dukayn> | DO IT |
| 08:28 | < randolph[laptop]> | I WILL |
| 08:28 | < randolph[laptop]> | But not tonight |
| 08:28 | < randolph[laptop]> | Because I have work in the morning and I'm not as crazy as Ced |
| 08:29 | < Dukayn> | no-one's as crazy as Ced |
| 08:29 | < randolph[laptop]> | But I will wait for whatever evil Soren is hatching, if it's soon |
| 08:29 | < Ceddobear> | Why am I being perceived as crazy? |
| 08:29 | < randolph[laptop]> | 4 hours of sleep on a worknight |
| 08:29 | < Ceddobear> | Your point is? |
| 08:29 | < randolph[laptop]> | I'd start hallucinating and giving strange orders to my underlings |
| 08:30 | < randolph[laptop]> | Wouldn't be pretty |
| 08:30 | < Ceddobear> | ... your point is? :D |
| 08:30 | < randolph[laptop]> | >_< |
| 08:30 | < Ceddobear> | Nah, man. |
| 08:30 | < Ceddobear> | I ... have the uncanny ability to ignore sleep. |
| 08:30 | < Ceddobear> | I woke up before my alarm today. |
| 08:30 | < Ceddobear> | At 5:38am. |
| 08:31 | < Ceddobear> | So, technically, 3.5h of sleep. |
| 08:31 | < MittenNinja> | I think it has to do (at least for me) with the fact that here its 1:30am right now |
| 08:31 | < randolph[laptop]> | I'm gettin' too old for that |
| 08:31 | < Ceddobear> | I turn 29 in a bit. |
| 08:32 | < MittenNinja> | As to why your crazy that is |
| 08:36 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/6s01x42rz5yabxs/Laserwang.JPG |
| 08:36 | < randolph[laptop]> | haha |
| 08:36 | < randolph[laptop]> | oh man |
| 08:36 | < afny> | inspired by Cedric's ballsack gun, I presume |
| 08:37 | < Soren> | actually I trolled someone with a penisgun that used that design a while ago. |
| 08:37 | < Soren> | it's so obvious you gotta use it. |
| 08:37 | < randolph[laptop]> | I've got a chassis for it... |
| 08:37 | < randolph[laptop]> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1333 |
| 08:38 | < randolph[laptop]> | Admittedly, it's not a tiny laserboner on that frame |
| 08:38 | < randolph[laptop]> | Then again, in 7p scale, that laserwang is 5+ feet |
| 08:39 | < randolph[laptop]> | ok, nn for real |
| 08:40 | < Soren> | g'night. |
| 08:40 | < Ceddobear> | Nightey, Randy. |
| 08:41 | < Ceddobear> | That. |
| 08:41 | < afny> | o/ |
| 08:41 | < Ceddobear> | Is a laserwang, Soren? |
| 08:41 | < Ceddobear> | Really? |
| 08:41 | < Ceddobear> | THs is the extent of your creativity? |
| 08:41 | < Soren> | it's a tiny one. |
| 08:41 | < afny> | more of a laser dogwang really |
| 08:41 | < Ceddobear> | I can see that. |
| 08:41 | < Ceddobear> | It also looks like a back module subsection. |
| 08:42 | < Ceddobear> | With trans yellow. |
| 08:42 | < Soren> | I'll get out the pin joiners and the technic spheres when you make a convincing case. |
| 08:42 | < Ceddobear> | Dukayn: TRILLY POSTED. |
| 08:42 | < Dukayn> | HOLY SHIT |
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| 08:45 | < afny> | Hey Soren |
| 08:45 | < afny> | in this version of the conscript: http://nobsjustabs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/conscript-breakdown-01.jpg |
| 08:45 | < Soren> | yes? |
| 08:45 | < afny> | In the black assembly, the two studs that the arm taps connect to |
| 08:46 | < afny> | those are two lampholders wedged in the backpack, right? |
| 08:46 | < afny> | or is it one lampholder that comes up from the back of the first lampholder |
| 08:46 | < afny> | with two black 1x1 plates? |
| 08:46 | < Soren> | two lampholders. |
| 08:46 | < afny> | okay, that's what I thought |
| 08:47 | < afny> | so here's the really stupid question |
| 08:47 | < afny> | how does the back assembly meet the part with the slope? |
| 08:47 | < afny> | at first I thought it must just attack at the top with a jumper, but looking at this, it's obviously not the case |
| 08:47 | < afny> | http://nobsjustabs.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/3316322005_a188040f86.jpg |
| 08:48 | < Soren> | no, it's a jumper. |
| 08:48 | < Ceddobear> | Trilly is ... le sigh. |
| 08:48 | < Ceddobear> | Why would he even shoot NG-A? |
| 08:48 | < Ceddobear> | Why not SH-B with Def 1? |
| 08:48 | < Ceddobear> | His 5 ATK totally fails at NG-A's 5 DEF. |
| 08:49 | < Ceddobear> | He doesn't spot anything. |
| 08:49 | < Ceddobear> | This is all kinds of horrible. |
| 08:49 | < Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 08:49 | < Dukayn> | He also needs to move to get in range |
| 08:50 | < Dukayn> | Not sure a max of 4 will make it |
| 08:50 | < Dukayn> | 'gale Alpha moved 5 and he was already just outside DF at the start of play |
| 08:51 | < Dukayn> | OH LOOK A SPINFUSOR: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Spinfusor.png |
| 08:51 | < Dukayn> | lacking a 1x2 tile in the v clip because LDD |
| 08:52 | < Ceddobear> | The fuck issat. |
| 08:58 | < Dukayn> | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120209033418/tribes/images/b/bb/Juggerna ut_Spinfusor_MKD.png |
| 08:59 | < Ceddobear> | Fucking interbutts. |
| 09:00 | < Ceddobear> | Going for a smoke. |
| 09:00 | < Dukayn> | woo Bricklink has been shipped |
| 09:00 | < Dukayn> | +order |
| 09:00 | < afny> | alright well |
| 09:00 | < afny> | it's obvious that I no longer have a brain |
| 09:00 | < afny> | ...where exactly is the jumper |
| 09:01 | < Dukayn> | afny: There's an LDraw for the Conscript isn't there? |
| 09:01 | < afny> | I...don't know. |
| 09:01 | < Dukayn> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/hangar.html |
| 09:01 | < Dukayn> | Right there |
| 09:01 | < afny> | PFFFT. |
| 09:01 | < afny> | But that would be TOO EASY. |
| 09:01 | < afny> | TOO EASY. |
| 09:01 | < afny> | To check there. |
| 09:02 | < afny> | Instead of feeling like one stupid person, I now get to feel like two. |
| 09:02 | < afny> | I COVET THIS. |
| 09:02 | < Dukayn> | LOL |
| 09:02 | < afny> | also these are totally new |
| 09:03 | < Dukayn> | Yeah, Schoon didn't have them |
| 09:03 | < Dukayn> | I sent him like 12 LDraws :P |
| 09:09 | < Ceddobear> | I liked my gatling Conscripts. |
| 09:09 | < Ceddobear> | UNTIL I CRUSHED THEM. |
| 09:09 | < Ceddobear> | Because they looked like toys next to my other 'frames. |
| 09:09 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 09:10 | < Dukayn> | So what do you think of the gun Ced? afny ? |
| 09:10 | < Ceddobear> | The original? Cool. |
| 09:10 | < Ceddobear> | *smirk* |
| 09:10 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 09:11 | < Dukayn> | so... you hate it :P |
| 09:11 | < Ceddobear> | I kind of wanna see what I could cook up. |
| 09:11 | < Dukayn> | Go for it |
| 09:11 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah, it looks dorky. |
| 09:11 | < Dukayn> | I was just having a crack at it |
| 09:11 | < Ceddobear> | LDD still down? |
| 09:11 | < Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 09:11 | < Ceddobear> | Mothertrucker. |
| 09:11 | < Ceddobear> | Fix your shit. Lego. |
| 09:11 | < Dukayn> | I've actually put in a firewall block so I don't have to worry about it |
| 09:13 | < Dukayn> | well let's collaborate |
| 09:13 | < Dukayn> | first up, does ANY part work for you? |
| 09:13 | < afny> | what is the disk you used for the spinfusor? |
| 09:14 | < afny> | it's pretty cool, although a bit vertical |
| 09:14 | < Dukayn> | 2x2 inverted dish |
| 09:14 | < afny> | oh, the texture just made it look totally flat |
| 09:15 | < Ceddobear> | Mhmm. |
| 09:15 | < Ceddobear> | I'd do the back entirely different. |
| 09:15 | < Ceddobear> | Start with a 1x2 upside down. |
| 09:15 | < Ceddobear> | Attach a Lampholder, facing forward. |
| 09:16 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 1x1 tile clip on that, so you can attach stuff aligned with the 1x2. |
| 09:16 | < Ceddobear> | Clip a pistol to it. |
| 09:16 | < Soren> | hee, LDD via IRC. |
| 09:16 | < Soren> | the clumsiest. |
| 09:16 | < Dukayn> | yep |
| 09:16 | < Soren> | it's the internet version of the build-in-the-bag challenge. |
| 09:16 | < Ceddobear> | Put two lampholders left and right of the lampholder thingeys. |
| 09:17 | < Soren> | except that he's using you like a condom. |
| 09:17 | < Ceddobear> | put two 1x2 tiles on the new lampholders, hiding the pistol. |
| 09:17 | < Ceddobear> | Put a jumper on each side of the double lampholder contraption. |
| 09:18 | < Ceddobear> | But a 1x2 tile on the bottom, add a 1x2 plate facing foward. |
| 09:18 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 1x4 plate with the middle studs missing on the top Jumper. |
| 09:18 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 2x2 dish underneath the 1x4. |
| 09:19 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 1x4 plate on the bottom 1x2 plate. |
| 09:19 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 1x2 on the backstud of the 1x4 /w 2 studs missing. |
| 09:19 | < Ceddobear> | Put two cheese wedges on there, form a triangle. |
| 09:20 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 1x2 plate on the bottom 1x4 plate, leaving the front stud free. |
| 09:20 | < Ceddobear> | That should worl. |
| 09:20 | < Ceddobear> | *work |
| 09:20 | < Dukayn> | ok cool |
| 09:20 | < Ceddobear> | :D |
| 09:20 | < Dukayn> | so um.... back at the start |
| 09:20 | < Dukayn> | :P |
| 09:20 | < Ceddobear> | CAN YOU ENVISION IT?! |
| 09:21 | < Dukayn> | CeddobearAttach a Lampholder, facing forward. Put a 1x1 tile clip on that, so you can attach stuff aligned with the 1x2. |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | Yes. |
| 09:21 | < Dukayn> | that I don't get |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | :D |
| 09:21 | < Dukayn> | I think I do |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | Okay, 1x2 plate. |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | Upside down. |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | PICK A SIDE. |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | Put a lamp holder there. |
| 09:21 | < Ceddobear> | THIS IS NOW FORWARD. |
| 09:21 | < Dukayn> | LOL |
| 09:22 | < Dukayn> | don't caps me, boyo |
| 09:22 | < Ceddobear> | Caps is for emphasis. |
| 09:22 | < Dukayn> | nah I think I got that. The clip goes on the stud |
| 09:22 | < afny> | oh god |
| 09:22 | < Ceddobear> | Imagine me yelling excitedly. |
| 09:22 | < afny> | yep |
| 09:22 | < afny> | i'm an idiot. |
| 09:22 | < Dukayn> | then the pistol in the clip aligned with the 1x2 yes? |
| 09:22 | < Ceddobear> | Yupp. |
| 09:22 | < Ceddobear> | That's your weapon body and grip. |
| 09:22 | < Dukayn> | then the 2 lampholders, how do they face? |
| 09:22 | < Dukayn> | down? |
| 09:23 | < Ceddobear> | They go sideways, forming a 1x2 upwards and downwards, facing to YOUR NEWLY DEFINED FORWARD. |
| 09:23 | < Dukayn> | yep got that |
| 09:23 | < Ceddobear> | Okay. |
| 09:24 | < Ceddobear> | Slap a 1x3 tile on that. |
| 09:24 | < Dukayn> | Ceddobearput two 1x2 tiles on the new lampholders, hiding the pistol. |
| 09:24 | < Dukayn> | that didn't make sense |
| 09:24 | < Ceddobear> | So it forms a body. |
| 09:24 | < Ceddobear> | Nah. |
| 09:24 | < Ceddobear> | Make it 1x3's. |
| 09:24 | < Ceddobear> | Should make it a solid body. |
| 09:24 | < Ceddobear> | But it won't hide the pistol eh? |
| 09:25 | < Dukayn> | hang on |
| 09:25 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/wut.png |
| 09:25 | < Ceddobear> | Come on, Dukey. Play hide the pistol with ,e. |
| 09:25 | < Ceddobear> | lol |
| 09:25 | < Ceddobear> | Wrong pistol. :D |
| 09:25 | < Dukayn> | does it matter? |
| 09:25 | < Ceddobear> | Take the non-poopy one! |
| 09:25 | < Ceddobear> | FOR LOOKS IT DOES. |
| 09:25 | < Dukayn> | YOU'RE GOING TO HIDE IT |
| 09:25 | < Ceddobear> | :D |
| 09:26 | < Ceddobear> | Not all of it. :( |
| 09:26 | < Dukayn> | it'll do for now |
| 09:26 | < Dukayn> | are the lampholders right? |
| 09:28 | < Ceddobear> | Yes. |
| 09:28 | < Ceddobear> | Okay. |
| 09:28 | < Dukayn> | cool OK I have it |
| 09:28 | < Ceddobear> | Now put a 1x3 tile over the whole shebang. |
| 09:28 | < Dukayn> | you go find me a part id for your perfect pistol |
| 09:28 | < Ceddobear> | YOu can take whatever, really. :D |
| 09:28 | < Ceddobear> | Mozzles work. |
| 09:29 | < Ceddobear> | *Nozzles. |
| 09:29 | < Ceddobear> | I might need sleep. |
| 09:29 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 09:29 | < Dukayn> | where are those plates with the missing holes? |
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| 09:30 | < Ceddobear> | Plates, below the 1x4's |
| 09:30 | < Ceddobear> | It's: STUD TILE TILE STUD. |
| 09:30 | < Dukayn> | OH THOISE |
| 09:32 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah. |
| 09:33 | < Ceddobear> | We are like primates. |
| 09:33 | < Ceddobear> | "THIS THING NO WORKEY! *bangs it at other parts* WHY?!" |
| 09:33 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 09:35 | < Dukayn> | so uh this is what I took from your instruction :P |
| 09:35 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/CedsSpinfusor.png |
| 09:35 | < Ceddobear> | I bet it looks horrible. :D |
| 09:36 | < Ceddobear> | Yupp. |
| 09:36 | < Ceddobear> | Pretty messed up. |
| 09:36 | < Ceddobear> | Okay, let's fix that. |
| 09:36 | < Dukayn> | I like what you did on the back |
| 09:36 | < Ceddobear> | Bottom jumper: 1x3. Put it in the middle. |
| 09:37 | < Ceddobear> | Then, put a 1x4 tile over that, so it extends over the pistol. |
| 09:38 | < Dukayn> | that it? |
| 09:38 | < Ceddobear> | Put a 1x4 ... 2 stud plate on the part of the 1x3 that extends over the jumper. |
| 09:39 | < Ceddobear> | Then ... |
| 09:40 | < Ceddobear> | Taje the 1x4 2 stuf plate off, put a 1x6 plate on there, so 4 extend over and 2 back. |
| 09:40 | < Ceddobear> | Put another 2x2 dish turned 180? opposite of the first dish. |
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| 09:41 | < Soren> | buh. |
| 09:41 | < Ceddobear> | Replace the top 1x2 with a 1x4 plate. |
| 09:41 | < Ceddobear> | do the cheese, 1x1 /w tile on top, cheese thing. |
| 09:41 | < Dukayn> | Where do you think this is connecting? |
| 09:41 | < Ceddobear> | At the back of the 1x4. |
| 09:41 | < Ceddobear> | What now? :D |
| 09:42 | < Ceddobear> | Fuck it. |
| 09:42 | < Ceddobear> | Lemme grab LDD. |
| 09:42 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 09:42 | < Ceddobear> | Alright. |
| 09:43 | < Soren> | this whole conversation has been incredibly surreal. |
| 09:46 | < Ceddobear> | Oh, dude. |
| 09:46 | < Ceddobear> | DUKEY. |
| 09:46 | < Ceddobear> | I CRACKED IT. |
| 09:51 | < Ceddobear> | I cannot show you, though. |
| 09:51 | < Ceddobear> | Because my internet is being a total douchehammer right now. |
| 09:53 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 09:53 | < Dukayn> | well don't describe it, you'll give Soren nightmares |
| 09:53 | < Soren> | haha |
| 09:53 | < Ceddobear> | Dukey: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cedsspinfuser.png |
| 09:54 | < Soren> | I'm building rivet guns, actually. |
| 09:54 | < Dukayn> | Oh yes |
| 09:54 | < Ceddobear> | At the bottom, clip a 1x1 tile in, at at angle, for the mag. |
| 09:54 | < Dukayn> | that's perfect |
| 09:54 | < Ceddobear> | I could say: "I know". |
| 09:54 | < Ceddobear> | But that would be conceited. |
| 09:54 | < afny> | I love that Ced |
| 09:54 | < Dukayn> | Yes |
| 09:54 | < afny> | much more horizontal |
| 09:54 | < Dukayn> | Yeah it's better |
| 09:54 | < Dukayn> | much better |
| 09:54 | < Ceddobear> | *bow* |
| 09:54 | < Dukayn> | I suck at designing weapons |
| 09:55 | < Ceddobear> | So do I! |
| 09:55 | < Ceddobear> | I just click until things happen. |
| 09:55 | < afny> | I dont think you need nearly as many cheese slopes or tiles |
| 09:55 | < Ceddobear> | WRONG. |
| 09:55 | < afny> | I mean yeah it makes it look more like the model |
| 09:55 | < afny> | which is nice |
| 09:55 | < afny> | but it would look good if it was just flat or near flat on top |
| 09:55 | < Ceddobear> | Which is what counts. |
| 09:56 | < Ceddobear> | But ... the shape? |
| 09:56 | < Ceddobear> | The flow? |
| 09:56 | < Ceddobear> | The cohesion? |
| 09:56 | < afny> | the PRICE TAG. |
| 09:56 | < Ceddobear> | THE WOW FACTOR. |
| 09:56 | < Ceddobear> | I'll go home today and build one. |
| 09:56 | < Ceddobear> | Just for shits and giggles. |
| 10:01 | < Dukayn> | nice |
| 10:01 | < Ceddobear> | Okay. |
| 10:01 | < Ceddobear> | So. |
| 10:01 | < Ceddobear> | I habe 30 minutes of nap time. |
| 10:01 | < Ceddobear> | *have |
| 10:01 | < Ceddobear> | And then, 2 hours left on the clock. |
| 10:01 | < Ceddobear> | :D |
| 10:02 | < Ceddobear> | Actually, no. Fuck lunch break. |
| 10:02 | < Ceddobear> | 90 minutes. |
| 10:03 | < Dukayn> | Dude that gun is way too big for MFZ |
| 10:03 | < Dukayn> | well, |
| 10:03 | < Dukayn> | let's say it's too big for what it is supposed to represent |
| 10:04 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/GadianSpinfusor.png |
| 10:06 | < Ceddobear> | Hahaha. :D |
| 10:06 | < Ceddobear> | I'll get home and build you a small one in less than 2h. |
| 10:06 | < Ceddobear> | THat okay for ya? |
| 10:06 | < Ceddobear> | I'll find a way to make it smaller. |
| 10:07 | < Ceddobear> | What is the Spinfuser anyway? |
| 10:07 | < Dukayn> | It's from Tribes |
| 10:07 | < Dukayn> | the disc is the projectile and explodes on impact |
| 10:08 | < afny> | at least in T2, it's a pretty "light" weapon |
| 10:08 | < afny> | in MFZ, it would probably be used by agile or aerial frames |
| 10:09 | < Dukayn> | well that was the Juggernaut version of it |
| 10:09 | < afny> | oh, the model? Is it from the new one? |
| 10:09 | < Dukayn> | in Tribes Ascend there are 3 different Spinfusors |
| 10:09 | < afny> | I haven't played it |
| 10:09 | < Dukayn> | light, regular and MDK |
| 10:09 | < afny> | one for each size? |
| 10:09 | < Dukayn> | that's the MDK |
| 10:09 | < afny> | ah |
| 10:09 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 10:10 | < afny> | Do you like TA? |
| 10:10 | < Dukayn> | Yeah it's fun |
| 10:10 | < Ceddobear> | Should've gone fast. |
| 10:10 | < Dukayn> | And shit, it's free |
| 10:10 | < Dukayn> | You lose nothing by trying it out :) |
| 10:10 | < Ceddobear> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ObZU9LcH10 |
| 10:10 | < Ceddobear> | There's a review for it. |
| 10:10 | < Dukayn> | Er |
| 10:11 | < Dukayn> | I'm not subjecting my ears to more BroTeam |
| 10:11 | < Ceddobear> | THERE IS. |
| 10:11 | < Ceddobear> | A FUCKING REVIEW. |
| 10:11 | < Ceddobear> | FOR IT. |
| 10:11 | < Ceddobear> | Now go watch it. |
| 10:11 | < Dukayn> | Like the one for War, Inc. you linked yesterday? |
| 10:11 | < Dukayn> | Yeah, no. :P |
| 10:11 | < Dukayn> | Also I've played it, I don't need no review |
| 10:11 | < Ceddobear> | War Inc. was pretty loud. :D |
| 10:12 | < Ceddobear> | The Tribes one has more tears. |
| 10:12 | < Dukayn> | No shit |
| 10:12 | < Dukayn> | War, Inc. was terrible. |
| 10:12 | < Ceddobear> | The Game? |
| 10:12 | < Ceddobear> | The vid? |
| 10:12 | < Dukayn> | both |
| 10:12 | < Ceddobear> | True. |
| 10:12 | < Ceddobear> | See, I am easily entertained by the dumbest humor when done in large scale. |
| 10:12 | < Dukayn> | you know |
| 10:12 | < Dukayn> | the one you've done there Ced would make a good arty weapon |
| 10:12 | < Ceddobear> | I think repetition is fun. |
| 10:13 | < Ceddobear> | Like, a shouldermount? |
| 10:13 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 10:13 | < Ceddobear> | Mhmm, yah. |
| 10:13 | < Dukayn> | or on a turret |
| 10:13 | < Dukayn> | OH MAN THAT THING ON AN IJAF |
| 10:13 | < Dukayn> | IJAD* |
| 10:14 | < Ceddobear> | Didya just try that? |
| 10:15 | < Ceddobear> | Does it look sexy? |
| 10:15 | < Dukayn> | I haven't yet |
| 10:15 | < Ceddobear> | See, I would be tempted to make it larger for an Ijad. |
| 10:15 | < Ceddobear> | Make it a Big Gun. |
| 10:15 | < Dukayn> | It's pretty fkn large |
| 10:15 | < Ceddobear> | Meh. :D |
| 10:18 | | * Soren will tinker in the morning. |
| 10:18 | < Soren> | ...because I almost just fell asleep on the keyboard. |
| 10:18 | | Soren is now known as Soren|away |
| 10:18 | < Soren|away> | g'night |
| 10:18 | < Dukayn> | night mate |
| 10:19 | < Dukayn> | yknow the top of that gun is the same as the top of the stink eye ball turret :P |
| 10:19 | < Dukayn> | tells me it belongs there |
| 10:20 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah .. I think you are right. |
| 10:20 | < Ceddobear> | Still needs more boom, though. |
| 10:21 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 10:22 | < Dukayn> | Quick n dirty hackjob: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/StinkEyeSpinner.png |
| 10:26 | < Ceddobear> | I wish I could see that. |
| 10:26 | < Ceddobear> | Goddamn Interbutts. |
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| 10:30 | | Ced|Bed is now known as Ced |
| 10:31 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/StinkEyeSpinner.png |
| 10:32 | < Dukayn> | Try that |
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| 10:43 | < Ced> | No, my internet is borked, Dukey. |
| 10:43 | < Ced> | Thw link is probably fine. :D |
| 10:43 | < afny> | works for me |
| 10:43 | < Dukayn> | Oh I figured you coming with the other name was a TCP stack reset to fix it |
| 10:43 | < afny> | looks pretty sweet too |
| 10:44 | < Dukayn> | needs integrating into the turret more |
| 10:44 | < Dukayn> | that was just attaching it the quickest way possible to see how it'd look |
| 10:52 | < Ced> | Mhmm. |
| 10:52 | < Ced> | I'll play around with that idea if you want me too. Or would care to see it? |
| 10:53 | < Dukayn> | Oh I don't personally care, I just think it'd look good on an Ijad base. It seems to carry certain aesthetic similarities |
| 10:54 | < Dukayn> | anyhoos I'm off for a bit, time for dessert and Game of Thrones finale. |
| 10:54 | | Dukayn is now known as Dukayn[AFK] |
| 11:14 | < Ced> | kodiesmith |
| 11:14 | < Ced> | hi guys im new here and its very interesting ..its pretty cool nice i like it randolph..can u share more to me... |
| 11:14 | < Ced> | Gold. |
| 11:22 | < afny> | Yeah |
| 11:22 | < afny> | next time he's in here |
| 11:22 | < afny> | I'm going to ask him to share more to me. |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | Deffo. |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | Say, Kev. |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Isn't it super early over at your's. |
| 11:23 | < afny> | YEAAAH. |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | -. +? |
| 11:23 | < afny> | 6:23 AM |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Still up? |
| 11:23 | < afny> | Yeah, but I woke up at 6 PM |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Fair enough, then. |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Go to bed soon? |
| 11:23 | < afny> | most likely |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Gotcha. |
| 11:24 | < afny> | I've been sick on and off for like two weeks, and my sleep schedule is completely obliterated |
| 11:24 | < Ced> | Because it would be a bummer if you wouldn't be around tonight. :D |
| 11:24 | < afny> | When I'm not in school I tend to just shuffle through different time zones |
| 11:25 | < afny> | it's not particularly healthy, and I haven't really found one I like. |
| 11:33 | < afny> | urgh, all the MgN-311s use 2x2 jumpers in their shoulder armor |
| 11:35 | < Ced> | Yeah. |
| 11:35 | < Ced> | I got one gajillion in tan of those. |
| 11:36 | < afny> | I have ZERO. Didn't even know they were a thing until today. |
| 11:36 | < Ced> | Heh. |
| 11:37 | < Ced> | Replace them with 2x 1x2 jumpers. |
| 11:37 | < Ced> | Or 2x2 plates. |
| 11:38 | < afny> | Malcolm was using those: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6115759941/in/photostream/ |
| 11:38 | < afny> | but the glory of the 2x2 jumper can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6481454811/in/photostream/ |
| 11:38 | < afny> | with OFFSET action |
| 11:38 | < afny> | It's alright though, I'm still makign 303s |
| 11:39 | < afny> | this one is going to be in blue, yellow, light gray, and black |
| 11:39 | < afny> | maybe a LIME GREEN accent |
| 11:39 | < afny> | it's nuts |
| 11:39 | < afny> | I don't even know what I'm building for |
| 11:39 | < Ced> | Ah, I see. |
| 11:39 | < afny> | I guess a straight up FC cell |
| 11:39 | < Ced> | Straight up seizure in a paint factory. |
| 11:40 | < afny> | listen |
| 11:40 | < afny> | this is COLOR WHEEL APPROVED, guy |
| 11:40 | < afny> | it'll be AWESOME |
| 11:40 | < afny> | if I had purple |
| 11:40 | < afny> | I'D ADD IT. |
| 11:40 | < afny> | my color palette is extremely limited. I pretty much only have primaries |
| 11:40 | < afny> | all but a handful of my bricklink parts were neutral colors |
| 11:41 | < afny> | and the ones that weren't were blue slopes, or red 2x2 slopes. |
| 11:41 | < Ced> | Colour wheel approved? |
| 11:41 | < Ced> | It's the entire fucking wheel. |
| 11:41 | < afny> | there's no red alright |
| 11:41 | < afny> | no green |
| 11:41 | < Ced> | Your wheel has holes. |
| 11:41 | < afny> | it's all about the BALANCE of the color |
| 11:42 | < afny> | fuck okay I have no idea how he does the heavy armor on the chest |
| 11:42 | < Ced> | It's as balanced as the Leaning Tower, though. |
| 11:42 | < Ced> | Lemme see. |
| 11:42 | < Ced> | OR NOT. |
| 11:42 | < Ced> | Internet goofed up again. |
| 11:42 | < Ced> | Build your way backwards. |
| 11:43 | < afny> | like here's a 311 |
| 11:43 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6115761543/ |
| 11:43 | < Ced> | I cannot open any HTTP, FTP or SMTP connections right now. |
| 11:43 | < Ced> | The only thing that works is IRC. |
| 11:43 | < afny> | then how do I |
| 11:43 | < afny> | let you SEE |
| 11:44 | < Ced> | 2 options. |
| 11:44 | < Ced> | My internet unfucks itself. |
| 11:44 | < Ced> | Or: You wait 55 minutes. |
| 11:44 | < Ced> | Because, I am home, then. |
| 11:44 | < afny> | oh |
| 11:44 | < afny> | well |
| 11:44 | < afny> | I can probably figure it out by then |
| 11:44 | < afny> | but okay |
| 11:45 | < afny> | I don't know if I have enough clips to make a full 8 frames for this company |
| 11:45 | < afny> | might have to order more...hopefully bricklink will be unfucked soon |
| 11:45 | < Ced> | I buy clips by the hundreds. |
| 11:45 | < Ced> | They always run out. |
| 11:45 | < afny> | I did not buy NEARLY enough |
| 11:45 | < afny> | of a couple vital things |
| 11:45 | < afny> | like clips |
| 11:45 | < afny> | and I bought too much other weird shit |
| 11:45 | < Ced> | I ordered 130 clips for the 6 MINXes. |
| 11:45 | < Ced> | They need 124. |
| 11:46 | < Ced> | One hundred. Twenty-four. |
| 11:46 | < afny> | that's a fuckton |
| 11:46 | < afny> | the mgn is pretty clip heavy |
| 11:46 | < afny> | 8 by default |
| 11:46 | < Ced> | That's not clip heavy. |
| 11:46 | < afny> | For MY BLOOD it is |
| 11:46 | < Ced> | Minxes use 20 per fucking 'frame. |
| 11:47 | < afny> | that's not counting any systems or greebling |
| 11:47 | < afny> | but yeah 20 is a lot |
| 11:47 | < afny> | shit |
| 11:47 | < Ced> | It's a bit scary. |
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| 11:51 | < afny> | oh |
| 11:51 | < afny> | duh |
| 11:51 | < afny> | it's just a 1x3 |
| 11:51 | < afny> | now I have to find a 1x3 |
| 11:51 | < afny> | in a not stupid color |
| 11:51 | < afny> | RED\ |
| 11:51 | < afny> | that's a stupid color. |
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| 11:52 | < Ceddobear> | ADD IT. |
| 11:52 | < Ceddobear> | I DARE YOU. |
| 11:52 | < Ceddobear> | I DOUBLE DARE YOU. |
| 11:52 | < Ceddobear> | Make the wheel complete. |
| 11:54 | < afny> | I'll save it for a red MgN-311 |
| 11:54 | < Ceddobear> | You failed me. |
| 11:54 | < afny> | I wanna do two in red, one in blue/yellow, two in grey and one in black |
| 11:54 | < afny> | don't think I have DA CLIPS though |
| 11:54 | < afny> | so the colors first |
| 11:54 | < afny> | BECAUSE THEY ARE FUN. |
| 11:54 | < Ceddobear> | How about you do that, then SMASH them into each other. |
| 11:55 | < Ceddobear> | And then, build them regardless of color. |
| 11:55 | < afny> | madness |
| 11:55 | < afny> | and I've seen many pictures like that on the flikr. |
| 11:55 | < Ceddobear> | Yes, yes I have, too. |
| 11:55 | < afny> | okay, I think I was wrong about the 1x3 |
| 11:55 | < afny> | it's ore solid than that |
| 11:55 | < afny> | and more SENSICAL |
| 11:55 | < Ceddobear> | I don't have a single red 'Frame. |
| 11:55 | < afny> | +m |
| 11:55 | < Ceddobear> | Not even a red system. |
| 11:55 | < afny> | I have so many red bricks |
| 11:56 | < Ceddobear> | I'll stay away from red. |
| 11:56 | < afny> | I have three red frames currently but it's probably my most plentiful color |
| 11:56 | < Ceddobear> | I'll build ONE MORE company. |
| 11:56 | < Ceddobear> | And then that's it. |
| 11:56 | < afny> | CON PAN NY |
| 11:56 | < Ceddobear> | CONG. PANG. GNY. |
| 11:56 | < afny> | the arms must still be done with taps/clips |
| 11:56 | < afny> | but |
| 11:56 | < afny> | it's so WEIRD |
| 11:56 | < Ceddobear> | TAPS AND CLAWS. |
| 11:56 | < afny> | AND CLAWS. |
| 11:56 | < Ceddobear> | Good. |
| 11:57 | < Ceddobear> | I'll build some white/black/blue Ijads and then I am done with the topic. |
| 11:57 | < Ceddobear> | That's 48 'frames. |
| 11:57 | < afny> | oh god |
| 11:57 | < Ceddobear> | 6 companies, 8 each. |
| 11:57 | < afny> | how many actual completed frames do you have right now |
| 11:57 | < Ceddobear> | Uhm ... *counts in head* |
| 11:57 | < Ceddobear> | 27. |
| 11:58 | < Ceddobear> | 3 full companies of 8 and 3 extras. |
| 11:58 | < Ceddobear> | No, wait, 4 extras. So 28. |
| 11:58 | < afny> | Oh, okay |
| 11:58 | < afny> | so you still have a lot |
| 11:58 | < Ceddobear> | Forgot the Canary. :D |
| 11:58 | < afny> | in the ether |
| 11:58 | < Ceddobear> | Well, yah. They are all ordered and most of it is shipped. |
| 11:58 | < Ceddobear> | 8x Ijad, 6x Minxes. |
| 11:59 | < Ceddobear> | 2 of the extras join the Minxes. |
| 11:59 | < Ceddobear> | -> 52. |
| 11:59 | < Ceddobear> | No, 42. |
| 11:59 | < Ceddobear> | And then, I'll build 8 more Ijads, but blue this time. Flat 50. |
| 12:00 | < Ceddobear> | Alright, time to pack it in and go home. |
| 12:00 | < Ceddobear> | Be back in 40. |
| 12:00 | < afny> | o/ |
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| 12:51 | < Ceddobear> | Backsies. |
| 12:57 | < afny> | hi |
| 12:57 | < afny> | okay, so |
| 12:58 | < afny> | this is what i'm trying to figure out |
| 12:58 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6481455775/in/photostream/ |
| 12:58 | < afny> | how does he get the head that far forward |
| 12:58 | < afny> | but still level with the chest piece? |
| 12:58 | < afny> | this is how he usually does the heads: http://nobsjustabs.wordpress.com/instructions/mecha-frames/the-mgn-303ex/ |
| 12:59 | < Ceddobear> | Mhmm. |
| 12:59 | < Ceddobear> | Could be a trick. |
| 13:00 | < Ceddobear> | That's a 1x1 2 stud, right? |
| 13:00 | < Ceddobear> | So it's hollow through the 2 studs. |
| 13:00 | < afny> | where |
| 13:00 | < Ceddobear> | And he has a 1x1 tile on top of the head. |
| 13:00 | < afny> | i'm not sure what a 1x1 2 stud is, but the head is a headlight with a minifig neck plate |
| 13:00 | < afny> | a clear tile, and another tile |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | Nah, that's no headlight. |
| 13:01 | < afny> | i'm more concerned about the neck |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | That is a 1x1 with 2 studs. |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | Like a half Travis. |
| 13:01 | < afny> | it's a eheadlight |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | Oh wait. |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah, yeah. |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | What's underneath? |
| 13:01 | < afny> | but I don't need to know about the head |
| 13:01 | < afny> | I need to know about the neck |
| 13:01 | < Ceddobear> | Like, below it? |
| 13:01 | < afny> | like, how is it that far forward |
| 13:01 | < afny> | see, the problem is |
| 13:01 | < afny> | when you build up the chest piece like that on the mgn |
| 13:02 | < Ceddobear> | The head is recessed 3p deep there. |
| 13:02 | < afny> | the normal way of attaching the head (a brick connected to the central travis, then two plates up from that, then a 1x2 plate to move forward, then the head |
| 13:02 | < afny> | ) doesn't work |
| 13:02 | < afny> | it doesn't bring the head far enough forward |
| 13:02 | < Ceddobear> | Is there an open stud underneath? |
| 13:03 | < Ceddobear> | Like, under the head? |
| 13:03 | < afny> | not directly |
| 13:03 | < afny> | the corner of a travis is under the head |
| 13:03 | < Ceddobear> | Because it looks like he just used a rod. |
| 13:03 | < Ceddobear> | Or 3mm rigid hose. |
| 13:03 | < afny> | ? |
| 13:03 | < afny> | to connect the head to what |
| 13:03 | < afny> | this is what's under there |
| 13:03 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/5693490016/in/pool-438009@N25/lightbo x/ |
| 13:04 | < Ceddobear> | Oh fuck. :D |
| 13:04 | < Ceddobear> | Wait. |
| 13:04 | < afny> | I think I'm just using a chub head for this one |
| 13:04 | < afny> | but I want to figure it out eventually |
| 13:04 | < Ceddobear> | The head isn't moved forward. |
| 13:04 | < afny> | it's FLUSH, at least, to the armor |
| 13:04 | < afny> | the thing is, the armor may have 1p of indentation in the center |
| 13:04 | < afny> | and mine doesn't support that |
| 13:04 | < Ceddobear> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6512857935/in/photostream/ |
| 13:05 | < Ceddobear> | See, it sits right there, between the arms. |
| 13:05 | < afny> | hm, no indentaton there |
| 13:05 | < afny> | yeah, it might not be the same on all of them |
| 13:05 | < afny> | but that doesn't look bad |
| 13:05 | < afny> | oh well |
| 13:05 | < Ceddobear> | Oh well indeed! |
| 13:05 | < afny> | I'll see how it looks on the next one |
| 13:05 | < afny> | this one gets CHUB HEAD |
| 13:05 | < afny> | need to figure out some systems |
| 13:08 | < Ceddobear> | I'm trying to make the spinfuser works as a ball turret. :D |
| 13:09 | < afny> | just keep the basic barrel design but move in some of those long slopes |
| 13:09 | < afny> | and round out the edges |
| 13:11 | < Ceddobear> | Well, I need to move the rather bulky mount INTO the ball AND cut a lot of length. |
| 13:11 | < Ceddobear> | But I am onto something. |
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| 13:18 | < Ceddobear> | I think I got it. |
| 13:18 | < Ceddobear> | It's still larger than the Elder's Eye cannon, but it's also slimer. |
| 13:18 | < Ceddobear> | Looks a bit more refined. |
| 13:18 | < afny> | well I've gone from stumped to extra stumped trying to get a dual cylinder back mount to work |
| 13:19 | < afny> | also, there's nothing refined about hurling a glowing explosive frisbee at your enemies via giant robot |
| 13:19 | < afny> | but there's nothing a little culture can't fix. |
| 13:20 | < UR[V]0[V]> | deet |
| 13:21 | < Ceddobear> | Heya. |
| 13:21 | | Dukayn[AFK] is now known as Dukayn |
| 13:21 | < Ceddobear> | Oh, the Dukster is back. |
| 13:21 | < Dukayn> | Howdy |
| 13:22 | < Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijadfuser.png |
| 13:22 | < UR[V]0[V]> | howdy yall |
| 13:22 | < UR[V]0[V]> | Texas deet deeta leet |
| 13:22 | < Dukayn> | Looking cool Ced |
| 13:23 | < Ceddobear> | I'll probably change the base 'frame, too. |
| 13:23 | < Ceddobear> | Make it more armored, less agile. |
| 13:23 | < afny> | it looks sooo much like a giant bird head |
| 13:23 | < Dukayn> | it really does |
| 13:24 | < UR[V]0[V]> | ya, its Patrick |
| 13:24 | < afny> | are you talking to us or do you think you are on the phone with the state of texas |
| 13:25 | < UR[V]0[V]> | yah i am the president of Texas, deet |
| 13:25 | < afny> | So anyway |
| 13:25 | < afny> | this guy has 2y |
| 13:26 | < afny> | not sure what else |
| 13:26 | < afny> | but he looks FUCKING AWESOME |
| 13:26 | < UR[V]0[V]> | ya |
| 13:26 | < afny> | s |
| 13:26 | < afny> | so far I've used blue, yellow, light bley, old light grey, and black |
| 13:26 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i like chicken |
| 13:26 | < afny> | still trying to work in a lime green. |
| 13:27 | < UR[V]0[V]> | Alabama |
| 13:27 | < Ceddobear> | You need MORE COLORS. |
| 13:27 | < Ceddobear> | Red. I tell ya. Red. |
| 13:27 | < UR[V]0[V]> | shiny colors in Alabama, its Patrick |
| 13:28 | < afny> | this guy's whole point is to contrast the red though |
| 13:28 | < afny> | since there are two red MgNs |
| 13:28 | < afny> | in this company |
| 13:29 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i got my goonin helmet on deet leet |
| 13:30 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i need my Texas to be next to my Alabama |
| 13:30 | < Ceddobear> | Kev, you are colouring to the equivalent of Dukey's kids getting crayons and 5 hours unsupervised in the house. |
| 13:30 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 13:30 | < Dukayn> | they only need 10 minutes, man |
| 13:30 | < UR[V]0[V]> | blue |
| 13:30 | < Dukayn> | they work fast |
| 13:31 | < afny> | It's a delicate art |
| 13:31 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i like green |
| 13:31 | < afny> | these aren't crayons |
| 13:31 | < Ceddobear> | You are a delicate flower. |
| 13:31 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i like red |
| 13:31 | < afny> | they're KONTE CRAYONS. |
| 13:31 | < afny> | it's EXPENSIVE ART SHIT okay. |
| 13:31 | < Ceddobear> | But you have simply no concept of colours. :D |
| 13:31 | < afny> | You will eat your words! |
| 13:31 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i like all the colors except for Naples |
| 13:31 | < Ceddobear> | Okay. |
| 13:31 | < afny> | so |
| 13:31 | < Ceddobear> | Challenge accepted. |
| 13:32 | < afny> | would you say it's logical to only put |
| 13:32 | < afny> | YY |
| 13:32 | < Ceddobear> | I like letter noodles. |
| 13:32 | < afny> | on an arty guy? |
| 13:32 | < Ceddobear> | Ra Ra Y Y ? |
| 13:32 | < afny> | I mean how stupid is it to put YY on a df attacker |
| 13:32 | < Ceddobear> | That's what I'd call Bare Arty. |
| 13:32 | < UR[V]0[V]> | deet deeta leet Texas |
| 13:32 | < Ceddobear> | Rd Rd Y Y is the Bare Captain. He can support two units of DF, his own and others further away. |
| 13:32 | < Ceddobear> | Pret-ty good 'frame. |
| 13:33 | < Dukayn> | YY on DF isn't stupid |
| 13:33 | < UR[V]0[V]> | yellow is the fancy |
| 13:33 | < Ceddobear> | DF Y Y B makes for a really dangerous guy. |
| 13:33 | < Ceddobear> | Give him an SSR for kicks. |
| 13:33 | < afny> | that's what I want I guess |
| 13:33 | < Dukayn> | Not G Ced? |
| 13:33 | < Dukayn> | ;) |
| 13:33 | < Ceddobear> | Fast/Tough, both work. |
| 13:33 | < Ceddobear> | YOu will see. |
| 13:34 | < Ceddobear> | As soon as Trilly is done making no sense at fucking all, and schoon as a steady heartbet again ... |
| 13:34 | < UR[V]0[V]> | hello Texas? |
| 13:34 | < Ceddobear> | ... you will see. |
| 13:34 | < UR[V]0[V]> | Texas why you hang up? |
| 13:35 | < Dukayn> | I was merely commenting on your adamancy that B is useless |
| 13:35 | < UR[V]0[V]> | you're my new best friend |
| 13:36 | < afny> | I blame randolph |
| 13:37 | < UR[V]0[V]> | who wants a hug? |
| 13:39 | < afny> | it's really hard to mount ssr pods on an mgn |
| 13:39 | < Dukayn> | hehe |
| 13:39 | < afny> | they don't have any good hardpoints |
| 13:39 | < Dukayn> | shoulders? |
| 13:40 | < Dukayn> | like where he puts the thrusters here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6512857935/in/photostream/ ? |
| 13:40 | < afny> | yeah those are sweet |
| 13:40 | < afny> | won't work on this frame because the back mount is huge |
| 13:40 | < Dukayn> | ah |
| 13:40 | < afny> | I guess I should clarify |
| 13:40 | < afny> | there aren't any good hardpoints on THIS mgn |
| 13:41 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 13:42 | < UR[V]0[V]> | Alabama is mean to me! |
| 13:43 | < UR[V]0[V]> | deet |
| 13:43 | < afny> | hm |
| 13:43 | < afny> | he could HOLD the rocket |
| 13:43 | < afny> | he's got a free hand |
| 13:43 | < afny> | unless I give him a shield |
| 13:44 | < afny> | but he already has armor |
| 13:44 | | * UR[V]0[V] hugs afny |
| 13:45 | < UR[V]0[V]> | i shower in the nude :D |
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| 13:56 | < Dr_Mole_Stable> | i am a doctor |
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| 14:04 | < afny> | Well I ruled out the lime green |
| 14:05 | < afny> | if I could contain it in black it'd be good, but I can only put it on blue |
| 14:06 | < afny> | hey Ced |
| 14:06 | < afny> | how do you say "Standing" in German |
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| 14:38 | < KarolineDianne> | Good morning errybody |
| 14:40 | < afny> | o/ |
| 14:41 | < KarolineDianne> | I learned a new term today |
| 14:42 | < afny> | is it violently offensive? |
| 14:42 | < KarolineDianne> | No, just a little awkward. |
| 14:43 | < KarolineDianne> | Someone mentioned 'sweater puppies' and I was like... Wats dat? They refused to tell me because they 'couldn't believe I didn't know'. i look it up and get a bazillion pics of boobs and cleavage. I think I know what it means now. |
| 14:44 | < afny> | that is kind of a strange euphemism |
| 14:45 | < KarolineDianne> | I tend to be very ignorant of most slang terms and pop-culture references. Some people for some reason can't accept that and freak out when I've never heard of something... :/ |
| 14:46 | < afny> | well I'd say somewhere close to 40% of random slang terms are probably boobs |
| 14:46 | < afny> | so you should just guess that from now and and even if you're wrong, you'll probably end up being right. |
| 14:47 | < KarolineDianne> | Ehh.. I dunno |
| 14:47 | < Dukayn> | Hey KD |
| 14:48 | < afny> | where is Ceeed I need him to spellcheck my Geeeerrmaannn |
| 14:49 | < KarolineDianne> | "Heya Duka |
| 14:49 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7335423564/lightbox/ |
| 14:50 | < KarolineDianne> | ooh, nice ssr |
| 14:50 | < KarolineDianne> | ffff... My cat is in heat and she WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE |
| 14:51 | < Dukayn> | that's sweet afny |
| 14:51 | < afny> | woo |
| 14:51 | < Dukayn> | why Platypus? |
| 14:51 | < afny> | Several reasons |
| 14:51 | < afny> | First off is I've just been thinking about platypuses all day |
| 14:52 | < Dukayn> | platypii |
| 14:52 | < afny> | second is it's sort of a weird amalgamation of parts, like a platypus. It's an MgN (mammal) but it's got a duck bill (chub head) |
| 14:52 | < afny> | it's VAGUELY venomous. You could describe it as venomous. |
| 14:52 | < afny> | And it's got global spotting power; a platypus has electrolocation. |
| 14:53 | < afny> | its* |
| 14:53 | < afny> | it's |
| 14:53 | < afny> | wow |
| 14:53 | < afny> | so tired |
| 14:53 | < afny> | correcting grammatical errors that DON'T EXIST |
| 14:53 | | * KarolineDianne pets Afny |
| 14:53 | < afny> | I'm not in heat leave me alone! |
| 14:54 | < KarolineDianne> | But you're my hubby! |
| 14:58 | | * KarolineDianne big, adorable puppydog eyes.... ;~; |
| 14:58 | | * afny CRAZY EYES |
| 14:59 | < KarolineDianne> | p-p-pweeeaaase...? |
| 15:03 | < Dukayn> | o_O |
| 15:03 | < Dukayn> | yeeeeah, I'm going back to MLCad |
| 15:04 | < KarolineDianne> | What? |
| 15:04 | < Dukayn> | You two can play footsies just fine without me :P |
| 15:05 | < afny> | My feet are not willing partners |
| 15:05 | < afny> | either to footsies or to my own mental commands, apparently. |
| 15:07 | < KarolineDianne> | It looks like Afny... |
| 15:07 | < KarolineDianne> | !shades |
| 15:07 | < KarolineDianne> | Has been defeeted. |
| 15:07 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 15:08 | | * afny golfclap |
| 15:08 | < Dukayn> | oh dear |
| 15:08 | < KarolineDianne> | That was terrible I know... ;___; |
| 15:08 | < Dukayn> | better than most of the ones people use |
| 15:12 | < Dukayn> | Ced's are universally terrible. |
| 15:16 | < KarolineDianne> | Really? |
| 15:17 | < KarolineDianne> | :also |
| 15:17 | < KarolineDianne> | http://youtu.be/ZZ5LpwO-An4 |
| 15:17 | < afny> | oh god |
| 15:17 | < afny> | any time I see this I have to listen to it for about an hour. |
| 15:18 | < KarolineDianne> | lol |
| 15:18 | < afny> | a friend of mine once made a fullscreen flv file of this a website's 404 page |
| 15:18 | < KarolineDianne> | It's amazing |
| 15:22 | | * Ceddobear rises from his cave! |
| 15:22 | < afny> | I thought you had perished. |
| 15:22 | < afny> | SO |
| 15:22 | | * KarolineDianne hugs the Ceddobear! |
| 15:23 | < afny> | Does "Stehendpanzer" mean Standing Tank? |
| 15:23 | < afny> | or does it mean something stupid like |
| 15:23 | < afny> | RELIABLE TUB |
| 15:23 | < afny> | or On-time armor |
| 15:23 | < KarolineDianne> | I know that Wanzer was actually 'Wander Panzer' which meant 'walking tank' |
| 15:24 | < afny> | that's adorable |
| 15:24 | < afny> | wander panzer I mean |
| 15:24 | < Ceddobear> | Alright ... |
| 15:24 | < KarolineDianne> | What? |
| 15:24 | < afny> | wanzer just sounds like a dick |
| 15:24 | < KarolineDianne> | Wanzers are from the Front Mission series. |
| 15:24 | < Ceddobear> | Standing Tank: Stehender Panzer. |
| 15:24 | < afny> | STEHENDER |
| 15:24 | < afny> | okay |
| 15:24 | < Ceddobear> | Wander Panzer: Wandering Tank. |
| 15:24 | < afny> | the deeper meaning of this question is |
| 15:24 | < afny> | can I name my ssr |
| 15:25 | < afny> | Stehenderpanzerfaust |
| 15:25 | < Ceddobear> | No. |
| 15:25 | < KarolineDianne> | Standing tank fist |
| 15:25 | < KarolineDianne> | lawl |
| 15:25 | < afny> | WHY NOT |
| 15:25 | < afny> | WHY NOT |
| 15:25 | < Ceddobear> | Because it sounds like ass. |
| 15:25 | < afny> | Oh. Well. I did it anyway. |
| 15:25 | < Ceddobear> | Or like something Japanese people think we say. |
| 15:25 | < afny> | STEHENDERPANZERFAUST |
| 15:25 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7335423564/lightbox/ |
| 15:26 | < KarolineDianne> | AND HE PRAYS |
| 15:26 | < afny> | Oh my god do I pray. |
| 15:26 | < afny> | I PRAY EVERY SINGLE DAY-FOR STEHENDERPANZERFAUST. |
| 15:26 | < KarolineDianne> | MYES |
| 15:26 | < afny> | I have the |
| 15:26 | < afny> | 5 hour long cut |
| 15:26 | < afny> | on repeat |
| 15:27 | < KarolineDianne> | See, I'd never seen that before a week or so ago... Or even heard the song. |
| 15:27 | < afny> | I wake up in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high AND I SAY. |
| 15:27 | < Dukayn> | WHAT'S GOING ON? |
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| 15:29 | < MittenNinja> | heya fellas |
| 15:30 | < KarolineDianne> | HEY YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH! HEY YEAH YEAH! I daid HEY! WHAT'S GOING ON |
| 15:30 | < Dukayn> | Hey Mittens |
| 15:31 | | * KarolineDianne has rainbows and sparkles behind her |
| 15:34 | < Dukayn> | Dammit KD |
| 15:34 | < Dukayn> | that song is stuck in my head |
| 15:35 | < Ceddobear> | I got my first booped up order today. |
| 15:35 | < Dukayn> | Dang |
| 15:35 | < Dukayn> | mine shipped today |
| 15:35 | < Dukayn> | so \o/ |
| 15:35 | < Dukayn> | we'll see how it goes |
| 15:35 | < Ceddobear> | Some 1x2 tiles and jumpers where missing, entirely. |
| 15:35 | < Ceddobear> | I emailed the guy, let's see what he does. |
| 15:35 | < afny> | the seller that screwed my order hasn't responded yet |
| 15:36 | < Ceddobear> | BURN THE WITCH. |
| 15:36 | < afny> | but it's only been a day and a half |
| 15:36 | < Ceddobear> | SUFFER NOT THE HERETIC TO LIVE. |
| 15:36 | < KarolineDianne> | I randomly got dark green clips instead of grey ones. |
| 15:36 | < Ceddobear> | ... send them to Soren. |
| 15:36 | < MittenNinja> | i'll take em too if ya want :) |
| 15:37 | < Ceddobear> | Dukayn: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijadfuser2.png |
| 15:37 | < KarolineDianne> | omfg |
| 15:37 | < KarolineDianne> | This... |
| 15:38 | < KarolineDianne> | Why can't I stop laughing |
| 15:38 | < Dukayn> | nice mate |
| 15:38 | < KarolineDianne> | http://youtu.be/XYYo3T6nCw8 |
| 15:38 | < Dukayn> | oh god |
| 15:38 | < Dukayn> | dat face |
| 15:39 | < KarolineDianne> | The hilarious part is how they made the song out of his 'most annoying sound in the world' |
| 15:39 | | * KarolineDianne also lols at Starfire. |
| 15:40 | < KarolineDianne> | She's so adorable. |
| 15:40 | < MittenNinja> | Ceddo: Nice dude! |
| 15:40 | < MittenNinja> | reminds me of the disk launchers from tribes |
| 15:41 | < KarolineDianne> | "We should do the 'hanging out'! We never have before, and conceivably it could be fun! We might journey to the mall of shopping, or perform braiding maneuvers upon each other's hair... Or...' |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | it should Mittens |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | That's what it's based off |
| 15:42 | < Ceddobear> | MittenNinja: That's what this is modeled after. :D |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | I made one. and it was shit. |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | So Ceddo made one |
| 15:42 | < MittenNinja> | :D |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | and it was awesome. |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | so I cut myself a bit |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | and cried like a little pussy |
| 15:42 | < Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cedsspinfuser.png |
| 15:42 | < Dukayn> | and then he mounted it on an Ijad |
| 15:43 | < Ceddobear> | It's just way too big fpr MFZ. |
| 15:43 | < Dukayn> | Only problem is this |
| 15:43 | < Ceddobear> | But could work as an Arty piece. |
| 15:43 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/GadianSpinfusor.png |
| 15:43 | < MittenNinja> | gimme a sec |
| 15:43 | < Dukayn> | it could yea |
| 15:43 | | MittenNinja is now known as Mitten|Mischief |
| 15:43 | < KarolineDianne> | I have to go to work, guys. I'll see you later |
| 15:43 | < Ceddobear> | It's Monday. Greg works slowly. |
| 15:43 | < Dukayn> | cya |
| 15:43 | < Dukayn> | have fun |
| 15:43 | < Ceddobear> | Later KD. |
| 15:44 | < Ceddobear> | Chin up. |
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| 15:45 | < Ceddobear> | Alright. That's a Tough Big Gun done. |
| 15:45 | < Ceddobear> | Mhmm, now I want some Arty. |
| 15:46 | < Ceddobear> | Tough Arty. A Y Y B. |
| 15:46 | < Ceddobear> | *rubs chin* |
| 15:46 | < Ceddobear> | Dukey, I need a weapon system for Ijad, Arty range. Any conceptual ideas? |
| 15:49 | < Dukayn> | Sonic Rainboom? |
| 15:49 | < Mitten|Mischief> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7t940op3nnsm7c/LDDScreenShot58.png |
| 15:50 | | Mitten|Mischief is now known as MittenNinja |
| 15:50 | < Dukayn> | Wassat Mittens? |
| 15:50 | < MittenNinja> | smaller disc launcher |
| 15:50 | < Dukayn> | ah |
| 15:50 | < Dukayn> | but the disc is the wrong way :P |
| 15:50 | < Dukayn> | or does it come out the vertical bit? |
| 15:51 | < MittenNinja> | vertical bit? |
| 15:51 | < MittenNinja> | ah yeah |
| 15:51 | < MittenNinja> | it does |
| 15:51 | < Dukayn> | oh well it's just all wrong then LOL |
| 15:52 | < Ceddobear> | *throws up hands? |
| 15:52 | < Dukayn> | spinfusors are oriented horizontally |
| 15:52 | < Dukayn> | DUH MITTENS |
| 15:52 | < MittenNinja> | your mom is oriented horizontally |
| 15:52 | < Dukayn> | Well yeah, she's asleep. |
| 15:52 | < MittenNinja> | i know |
| 15:52 | < MittenNinja> | just wanted to make sure you knew |
| 15:53 | < MittenNinja> | its important you know |
| 15:53 | < Dukayn> | thanks for the heads up |
| 15:53 | < Dukayn> | I can now move on with my life |
| 15:54 | < Ceddobear> | *with my wife |
| 15:55 | < Ceddobear> | Ha! |
| 15:55 | < Ceddobear> | Instant reply. |
| 15:55 | < Ceddobear> | "Of course, shipping out the missing parts instantly. Very sorry. No idea how I forgot those." |
| 15:59 | < MittenNinja> | okay fine guys |
| 15:59 | < MittenNinja> | here |
| 15:59 | < MittenNinja> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7t940op3nnsm7c/LDDScreenShot58.png |
| 16:02 | < Dukayn> | that's pretty nifty |
| 16:03 | < Dukayn> | and not like, crew-served |
| 16:03 | < Dukayn> | Oh god, here comes another mum joke |
| 16:03 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 16:03 | < Ceddobear> | Why, does your mom need servce? |
| 16:05 | < Dukayn> | no I was expecting some comment about crew-served |
| 16:05 | < Ceddobear> | She's more crew-serving. |
| 16:06 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Seraph%20Paladin2.png |
| 16:06 | < Dukayn> | wallpaper I'm currently working on |
| 16:06 | < Ceddobear> | It's SUCH a massive CHub. :D |
| 16:06 | < Dukayn> | dat backpack |
| 16:09 | < Dukayn> | meh, reload it. I had some parts hidden :P |
| 16:09 | < Dukayn> | not many but now it's not missing bits at least lol |
| 16:09 | < Ceddobear> | Dafuq issat. |
| 16:10 | < Dukayn> | hmm? |
| 16:10 | < Ceddobear> | How are those mounted? |
| 16:10 | < Dukayn> | the cheese wedges? |
| 16:10 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah. |
| 16:10 | < afny> | its a 1x2 plate with those little funnel attachments |
| 16:10 | < Dukayn> | 4590 |
| 16:10 | < afny> | where the 2x2 plate on a chub is |
| 16:10 | < afny> | the top two studs are that brick |
| 16:11 | < Dukayn> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4590 |
| 16:11 | < Ceddobear> | Ah, those. |
| 16:11 | < Ceddobear> | kkk |
| 16:12 | < Dukayn> | ugh, I've had enough |
| 16:12 | < Dukayn> | I'm going to bed |
| 16:15 | < MittenNinja> | night man |
| 16:15 | < afny> | I am also |
| 16:15 | < afny> | headed to bed |
| 16:15 | < afny> | fucking australian timezone for no reason. |
| 16:15 | < afny> | o/ |
| 16:15 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 16:15 | | afny [kevinvankir@Nightstar-42c41d95.res.rr.com] has left #mf0 [] |
| 16:15 | < Dukayn> | lol where is afny? |
| 16:15 | < Dukayn> | geographically |
| 16:16 | < MittenNinja> | idk |
| 16:18 | < Ceddobear> | US. |
| 16:18 | < Ceddobear> | West Coast, AFAIR. |
| 16:18 | < Ceddobear> | It's 10am for him. :D |
| 16:19 | < Ceddobear> | [12:23:11] <afny> 6:23 AM |
| 16:19 | < Ceddobear> | Nah, East Coast. It's 12am for him. |
| 16:19 | < Dukayn> | that means he's only an hour behind me. That's... odd |
| 16:20 | < Dukayn> | Eastern US is currently 11.20am dude |
| 16:21 | < Dukayn> | he must keep odd hours |
| 16:22 | < Dukayn> | OK, now I'm headed to bed. For realsies. |
| 16:22 | < Dukayn> | Night all |
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| 16:24 | < MittenNinja> | alright ceddo, time to mail off your goodie bag |
| 16:24 | | MittenNinja is now known as Mitten|Away |
| 16:25 | < Ceddobear> | Yay! |
| 16:43 | < Ceddobear> | PROPOSITION. |
| 16:43 | < Ceddobear> | For prefixes to names. |
| 16:44 | < Ceddobear> | 0Y: Dumb; 1 Y: Nothing; 2Y: Smart. |
| 16:44 | < Ceddobear> | Fast Dumb Big Gun: DF DF G. |
| 16:44 | < Ceddobear> | Smart Tough Grunt: DF Y Y B |
| 16:45 | < Ceddobear> | Dumb Tough Arty: A B. |
| 16:46 | < Ceddobear> | 0B: Nothing; 1B: Tough; 2B: Tanky. |
| 16:46 | < Ceddobear> | Fast Tanky Melee: H B B G |
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| 16:52 | < CalaveraJoe> | Morning (well, morning for all the folks on the left coast of the US or similar timezones) |
| 16:54 | < Ceddobear> | Mornin', CJ. |
| 16:54 | < CalaveraJoe> | Just dropped pics of my Soren inspired stations up on the boards |
| 16:55 | < CalaveraJoe> | I've be elbows deep in bricks right now, but the wife and the kidlet are sleeping (little Mr had a rough night), so I have to console myself with merely sharing the nerdery on the internet |
| 16:56 | < Ceddobear> | Heh. :D |
| 17:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, eating freshly baked coffee cake muffins and drinking coffee. Mmmm, lifeinnacup |
| 17:05 | < Ceddobear> | CJ, didja see my stations in the battle reports? |
| 17:06 | < CalaveraJoe> | Aroo? |
| 17:06 | < CalaveraJoe> | *goes to look, cause if he did, he doesn't recall* |
| 17:07 | < CalaveraJoe> | lol, nice |
| 17:07 | < Ceddobear> | :D |
| 17:07 | < Ceddobear> | They have 3 parts for colour. |
| 17:07 | < Ceddobear> | The rest is uber simple. |
| 17:07 | < Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_1_1_b1.png |
| 17:07 | < Ceddobear> | Like there. |
| 17:08 | < Ceddobear> | And then, this: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_1_2_b4.png |
| 17:08 | < Ceddobear> | Tagged for red. |
| 17:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah. I pondered simple, but then I found fun bits |
| 17:19 | <~Noah> | Lo |
| 17:22 | < Ceddobear> | Lo! |
| 17:22 | < Ceddobear> | Yo, Noah. |
| 17:22 | <~Noah> | Hm? |
| 17:22 | < Ceddobear> | We had some intelligence flotsam wash ashore today and no op here to rid us of his Malaria. |
| 17:22 | < Ceddobear> | Care to elevate my privileges? And tell me how to register? |
| 17:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hey... has anyone done up Ijad stations? |
| 17:22 | < Ceddobear> | Also: Working on Ijad Arty: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_arty.png |
| 17:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | Registering is easy |
| 17:23 | < Ceddobear> | I figured. |
| 17:23 | <~Noah> | Who was the offender? |
| 17:23 | <~Noah> | You to learn how to register, investigate /nickserv help |
| 17:23 | < Ceddobear> | [14:29:06] <UR[V]0[V]> i got my goonin helmet on deet leet |
| 17:23 | < Ceddobear> | [14:30:07] <UR[V]0[V]> i need my Texas to be next to my Alabama |
| 17:23 | < Ceddobear> | [14:15:26] * Joins: UR[V]0[V] (NSwebIRC@971820.2F7D4B.89EE7D.4E9D80) |
| 17:24 | < CalaveraJoe> | Just /msg nickserv register <password> <email> |
| 17:24 | | Ceddobear is now known as Ced23Ric |
| 17:24 | <~Noah> | Be sure to change to a nick you want to register |
| 17:24 | < CalaveraJoe> | Though you'll want to make sure however you're hopping into IRC that you setup authentication so Nickserv doesn't bitchslap you |
| 17:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | You can do it manually, but that's a chore |
| 17:25 | <~Noah> | You can link names afterwards |
| 17:25 | < Ced23Ric> | Nah, I'll use aliases. :D |
| 17:25 | < Ced23Ric> | Noah: Much rather register the right account first. |
| 17:26 | <~Noah> | CalaveraJoe: Nickserv is more lenient here, so he doesn't have to identify immediately, but I think there are options to make it more aggressive, and you can do /nickserv ghost or /nickserv reclaim |
| 17:26 | <~Noah> | At least I think it's called reclaim |
| 17:26 | | Ced23Ric is now known as Ceddobear |
| 17:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah, just tedious to have to and annoying to listen to NS pester you, hehe |
| 17:26 | <~Noah> | recover |
| 17:27 | < Ceddobear> | Cool. |
| 17:27 | < Ceddobear> | Passcode don't work. |
| 17:27 | < Ceddobear> | Meh, fuck it. I try again tomorrow. |
| 17:28 | <~Noah> | You forgot your password? lol |
| 17:28 | <~Noah> | Ask in #nightstar and they should be able to send you a reset email |
| 17:29 | <~Noah> | I should see about getting my oper status back, since I'm fairly active |
| 17:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | Oop, sounds like the kid is stirring |
| 17:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | Later folks! |
| 17:29 | <~Noah> | Later |
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| 17:31 | <~Noah> | randolph[laptop]: Hey, you active? |
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| 17:45 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Soren|away] by ChanServ |
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| 18:13 | <@Ceddobear> | Ha! |
| 18:13 | <@Ceddobear> | This is looking SWEET. |
| 18:16 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij12_messenger.png |
| 18:50 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij11_revelator.png |
| 19:01 | <~Noah> | Neat |
| 19:02 | <@Ceddobear> | I am trying to take the Understanding Council 'frames and make them look more armored. |
| 19:02 | <@Ceddobear> | The blue ones are going to be my "main Ijad" faction, whereas the purple ones are the extremists. |
| 19:03 | <~Noah> | I want to change the TV channel, but The Fresh Beat Band is on, and my son is distracted by it and is being good |
| 19:03 | <~Noah> | Which is not his default state |
| 19:04 | <~Noah> | Infact, it's more like error handling for him, if he's being good, something is wrong with him, and he's throwing an exception |
| 19:05 | <~Noah> | Not to be confused with being very quiet, when is when he's just gotten into something he knows he shouldn't be in, but doesn't want to attract attention to himself |
| 19:06 | | Mitten|Away is now known as MittenNinja |
| 19:06 | < MittenNinja> | aaaand back |
| 19:07 | < MittenNinja> | ceddo, it has been mailed |
| 19:07 | < MittenNinja> | it might take a bit to get there. But it will. |
| 19:09 | <@Ceddobear> | Yay! |
| 19:09 | <@Ceddobear> | :) |
| 19:09 | <@Ceddobear> | LOOKSIES: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij12_messenger.png | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij11_revelator.png |
| 19:13 | < MittenNinja> | looking good man |
| 19:15 | <@Ceddobear> | I wanna get some more paced Ijad, to counter the extremists. :D |
| 19:22 | <~Noah> | Hmm, should I add a twitter reader to pout @BricklinkAdm here? |
| 19:22 | <~Noah> | pout? Output |
| 19:25 | <@Ceddobear> | That'd be usefull. |
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| 19:25 | <@Ceddobear> | Because I'm not gonna use Twitter. |
| 19:25 | <@Ceddobear> | OH GOD. |
| 19:25 | | * Noah twitches |
| 19:26 | <@Ceddobear> | Welcome to our humble abode! |
| 19:26 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Thanks! |
| 19:26 | <@Ceddobear> | This is where the (other) magic happens! |
| 19:26 | | * Ceddobear eyeballs Josh suspiciously. |
| 19:26 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Soren was just telling me that good stuff was happening in here. |
| 19:26 | <@Ceddobear> | Can we help you? :D |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | Oh. |
| 19:27 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I came over to see what's up! |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | Well, in that case. |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | Soren is ... Soren. |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | We putz around a lot. |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | Discuss strats and builds. |
| 19:27 | <@Soren|away> | We putz around a TON |
| 19:27 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Hooray for putzing! |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | Have little fights, too! |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | We also build robots. |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij12_messenger.png | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij11_revelator.png |
| 19:27 | <@Ceddobear> | Working on Ijad right now. |
| 19:27 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Looking! |
| 19:28 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Dig the designs! |
| 19:28 | <@Ceddobear> | The armored versions of a company that's hopefully finished this week in the brick. |
| 19:28 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Awesome. |
| 19:28 | <@Ceddobear> | I have 3 companies here. 2 in the mail. The 6th on the slab. |
| 19:28 | <@Ceddobear> | I blame you, Josh. |
| 19:28 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I take full responsibilty. |
| 19:28 | <@Ceddobear> | Very good. |
| 19:29 | <@Ceddobear> | Also, other news. |
| 19:29 | <@Ceddobear> | I reached out to a couple local gaming stores. |
| 19:29 | <@Ceddobear> | Two want me to come over and demo some games. |
| 19:29 | <@Ceddobear> | Any material or awesome stuff I should be bringing? |
| 19:29 | <~Noah> | BrickLink is slowly running out of travis bricks, Ced has bought all of Eurasia's already. |
| 19:29 | <@Ceddobear> | Taking pictures is a given. |
| 19:29 | <@Ceddobear> | It is true. I did do that. |
| 19:29 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I just got my studio set up in the most rudimentary way so I'm starting to work for reals on the game again. I've been writing a bunch but have a lot to do that was awkward without a mouse and second monitory. |
| 19:29 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Monitory. It's a room to hold your monitor. |
| 19:30 | <@Ceddobear> | Is it like a repository for monitors? |
| 19:30 | <@Ceddobear> | Also: Heya Mr. Lurkyface Roberts. |
| 19:30 | <@Ceddobear> | I did what you see there. |
| 19:30 | <~Noah> | I was thinking more like a big cathedral, full of monitors watching -everyone- |
| 19:30 | <@Soren|away> | I bet you did. |
| 19:30 | <~Noah> | Then I fainted, but I'm better now |
| 19:30 | | Soren|away is now known as Soren |
| 19:30 | <@Ceddobear> | I totally would, too. |
| 19:30 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I just inherited a box of bricks. |
| 19:30 | <@Ceddobear> | My condolesences. |
| 19:30 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I'm looking forward to having the time to build little robots again. |
| 19:31 | <@Ceddobear> | This guy is funny. Building robots is hard work! |
| 19:31 | <@Ceddobear> | I had days where I had to stop at 2. TWO. |
| 19:31 | <@Ceddobear> | And the days I managed to come up with 4, I was mentally exhausted. D: |
| 19:31 | <@Soren> | heh. |
| 19:31 | <@Ceddobear> | Oh, oh, Soren! |
| 19:31 | <@Soren> | You cranked out some pretty hardcore stuff, though. |
| 19:32 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Anyway, I'm working on the book and decals now. I just wanted to poke my head in and see what was going on in here. I'll be able to actually participate sometime in the next few months. |
| 19:32 | <@Ceddobear> | 2x2 and 1x3 tiles in Dark Green came in today. |
| 19:32 | <~Noah> | Yea, Ced works at the Ministry of Tiny Robots in Berlin |
| 19:32 | <@Soren> | also you got a ton of masonry bricks. |
| 19:32 | <@Ceddobear> | Joshie: Always welcome. Noah's casa est su casa. |
| 19:32 | <~Noah> | Joshua, you outsource decal printing right? |
| 19:32 | <@Ceddobear> | SHARE YOUR SECRETS WITH US. |
| 19:33 | <@Ceddobear> | Because, if I get my hands on a decent decal printer, I WILL start designing them. |
| 19:33 | <@Soren> | you guys know I've been working on decal sheet designs, right? |
| 19:33 | <@Ceddobear> | I need little Serpent Legion logos, for starters. And roman XIII, for the 13th Guard. Lt. Vale is not please how they are lacking ID. |
| 19:33 | < MittenNinja> | holy shit josh! |
| 19:33 | < MittenNinja> | whats up man? |
| 19:34 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Hey! |
| 19:34 | <@Soren> | I'm the one who pulled up the Lego dimensions for that. |
| 19:34 | <@Ceddobear> | Soren: Well then. *stares* |
| 19:34 | <@Ceddobear> | Where's my Serpent Legion decals, 1x1 ? |
| 19:34 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I'll let you guys know how decal printing goes. Keep in mind, you'll have to print 1000 sheets at a time. If you don't mind translucency, though, you can just print inkjet or laser. |
| 19:34 | <@Soren> | I dunno, I'll have to discuss it with the man who wrote the fiction! |
| 19:35 | <@Ceddobear> | Bah, Greg is easy. |
| 19:35 | <@Ceddobear> | 1000 sheets. Yeah. |
| 19:35 | < MittenNinja> | haha |
| 19:35 | <@Ceddobear> | That's 20 sheets per 'frame I intend to own. |
| 19:35 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Ghah. This interface blows. I'll be back in a sec with a better one, I hope. Too hard to follow from here. |
| 19:35 | <@Ceddobear> | Josh: www.mirc.com/get.html |
| 19:35 | < MittenNinja> | you on your phone? |
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| 19:36 | <@Ceddobear> | Nightstar Web IRC. |
| 19:36 | < MittenNinja> | ah |
| 19:36 | <@Ceddobear> | *rubs head* |
| 19:36 | <~Noah> | I should investigate my label maker, it has transparent tape |
| 19:37 | < MittenNinja> | I'm working on a really sweet frame right now. so yell at me if something important happens |
| 19:37 | <@Ceddobear> | I need a modular weapon system, representing d6Rd d6Rd ... |
| 19:37 | <@Ceddobear> | It has to be side mounted, too. |
| 19:37 | <@Ceddobear> | *rubs head* |
| 19:38 | <@Ceddobear> | Could I build some sort of tesla coil design..? |
| 19:38 | <@Ceddobear> | *ponders* |
| 19:40 | <@Ceddobear> | The biggest problem with being able to build whatever you want is not knowing what you want. |
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| 19:41 | <~Noah> | Welcome back Josh |
| 19:41 | < JoshuaACNewman> | OK, I think this will be better. |
| 19:42 | < JoshuaACNewman> | The web interface pretty much looks like a big pile of letters poured out on the floor. |
| 19:42 | <~Noah> | Yea, but it's functional, but a real client is always better |
| 19:43 | <@Soren> | Yeah. The only reason to use them is until you get comfortable with a client. |
| 19:44 | <~Noah> | Or, in my case, when I'm at school and they block the IRC ports |
| 19:44 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Heh. |
| 19:46 | <@Ceddobear> | Oh, god damnit, this looks like poop. |
| 19:53 | <@Ceddobear> | Despite my nationality, I have no interest in poop. I feel like I should add that. |
| 19:53 | <@Soren> | it's okay, we don't believe you. |
| 19:53 | <@Ceddobear> | This is so mean. |
| 19:53 | <@Ceddobear> | Stop stereotyping me. |
| 19:54 | <@Ceddobear> | You uneducated patriotic gun-tooting American football fan. |
| 19:55 | <@Ceddobear> | And what did you mean with that: <@Soren> You cranked out some pretty hardcore stuff, though. |
| 19:55 | <@Ceddobear> | Sounds like I got together with my ex again and shoot some movies. |
| 19:56 | <@Soren> | And we're all terribly disappointed that that's not true. |
| 20:00 | <@Ceddobear> | I dunno. |
| 20:04 | <@Ceddobear> | Okay, got the 3rd one done. |
| 20:04 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij13_acolyte.png |
| 20:08 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I love what you're doing with those guys. |
| 20:09 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I assume the bulk takes the form of blue dice? |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | Well, the idea is, that I have one Ijad faction, which is "The Assembly of the Most Understanding Council". |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | They are pro-Ijad extremist conservatives. |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | Their equivalent to the acolyte is the Custodian: |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij12_messenger.png |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij03_custodian.png |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | Sorry, 2nd link. |
| 20:11 | <@Ceddobear> | The Custodian is a Soldier loadout. |
| 20:12 | <@Ceddobear> | But he ties into the speed scheme of the Understanding Council. |
| 20:12 | <@Ceddobear> | For example, the Arty 'frame is d6Ra d6Ra Y Y G. |
| 20:12 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij02_mediator3.png |
| 20:12 | <@Ceddobear> | The Mediator. The hing legs look wonky because it doesn't show the tires that are going to be over those ends. |
| 20:13 | <@Ceddobear> | But the purple one's are more ... lithe and elegant. Speed theme. |
| 20:13 | <@Ceddobear> | The "Big Gun", d6Rd d6Rd d8Rd Y G, is the Elder's Eye. |
| 20:13 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij01_elderseye.png |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | Which find's it's equivalent in the Revelator. |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij11_revelator.png |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | Instead of G, he'll have B. |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | And the last 'frame the Understanding Council will field, is the Hierophant. |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij11_revelator.png |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij04_hierophant2.png |
| 20:14 | <@Ceddobear> | Damnit my paste-fu sucks. |
| 20:15 | <@Ceddobear> | And I am working on the equivalent to that right now - the Demagogue. |
| 20:15 | < MittenNinja> | DONE |
| 20:15 | <@Ceddobear> | The equivalent to the Mediator is the Messenger. |
| 20:15 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij12_messenger.png |
| 20:15 | <@Ceddobear> | d6Ra d6Ra Y Y B. |
| 20:17 | < MittenNinja> | I give to you, the Raven Guardian |
| 20:17 | < MittenNinja> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nz8g36gufaq7i1/DSC_0603.JPG |
| 20:17 | < MittenNinja> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/5fbr5j8kj6ctdqf/DSC_0604.JPG |
| 20:17 | <@Ceddobear> | I take your long load times. |
| 20:17 | <@Ceddobear> | ... Dafuq is going on there. |
| 20:17 | < MittenNinja> | load times? |
| 20:18 | < MittenNinja> | prbly big image files |
| 20:18 | <@Soren> | You use that so often I kinda want to name a character Wadi Dafuq. |
| 20:18 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 20:18 | <@Ceddobear> | Heavy Chub chest, Fat Snake legs, Headlight head (could use some love), really cool weapons. Shoulders are through the roof. :D |
| 20:19 | <@Soren> | Yeah, that's messed up in the best possible way |
| 20:19 | <@Ceddobear> | Hey, try this head: |
| 20:19 | <@Ceddobear> | Headlight sideways, 1x1 tile on top, stud cape flap thingey on the side stud so the new stud faces forward, round plate on the stud as a face. |
| 20:20 | <@Ceddobear> | And then, add something cool as an antenne to the open bottom of the headlight brick. |
| 20:20 | < MittenNinja> | that could work |
| 20:20 | <@Ceddobear> | I could show you, if necessary. |
| 20:20 | < MittenNinja> | nah no need |
| 20:20 | < MittenNinja> | i know what youre talkin bout |
| 20:20 | < MittenNinja> | :) |
| 20:22 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/hlhead.png |
| 20:22 | <@Ceddobear> | Free screenie anyway. |
| 20:22 | <@Ceddobear> | Alright. Time to find another Bionicle part to use as tophull. |
| 20:23 | <@Ceddobear> | I blame Soren for this part of it all. |
| 20:23 | <@Soren> | hee |
| 20:26 | < JoshuaACNewman> | Nice camera! |
| 20:26 | < JoshuaACNewman> | I use a camera piece for my "Cluster of civilians and journalists" station. |
| 20:29 | <@Ceddobear> | Camera? :D |
| 20:29 | <@Ceddobear> | That's a head. :( |
| 20:31 | | randolph[laptop] is now known as Randolph |
| 20:32 | < MittenNinja> | How about this instead? https://www.dropbox.com/s/pr63an6csi0xxfq/Ravan_Guard_01.jpg |
| 20:33 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Randolph] by ChanServ |
| 20:33 | | mode/#mf0 [-o Randolph] by ChanServ |
| 20:33 | <@Soren> | spiffy! |
| 20:33 | <@Ceddobear> | I'd say, he looks a little ... dorky? |
| 20:33 | < MittenNinja> | ty |
| 20:33 | <@Ceddobear> | I mean, I get it. An improvement, too. |
| 20:34 | <@Ceddobear> | But something is throwing me off. |
| 20:34 | <@Ceddobear> | Oh, got it. |
| 20:34 | <@Ceddobear> | His neck. |
| 20:34 | <@Ceddobear> | He looks like he served in the Marines for 80 years. |
| 20:35 | < MittenNinja> | who says he didnt :p |
| 20:35 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Randolph] by ChanServ |
| 20:35 | < MittenNinja> | hrmmm |
| 20:36 | <@Soren> | Oh, hey. I have OP powers I can abuse now. |
| 20:36 | | Randolph is now known as randolph[laptop] |
| 20:36 | <@Soren> | Thanks Noah! I'm gonna make you regret this like fuck, but thanks! |
| 20:36 | <@Soren> | ;) |
| 20:36 | <@randolph[laptop]> | afk again |
| 20:36 | <~Noah> | derp |
| 20:37 | | randolph[laptop] is now known as randolph |
| 20:39 | <@Ceddobear> | Man, I wish LDD and the reality would talk to each other. |
| 20:39 | <@Ceddobear> | LDD knows Bionicle parts that are nonexistent. |
| 20:41 | < MittenNinja> | Okay |
| 20:41 | < MittenNinja> | This https://www.dropbox.com/s/cedgc1z0hze5bxb/Raven_Guard_02.jpg |
| 20:47 | <@Ceddobear> | Okay, I found a MEDIOCRE replacement, for the part I am actually gonna use. |
| 20:47 | <@Ceddobear> | You know, because it exists. |
| 20:47 | <@Ceddobear> | Yeah, that's better, Mittens. |
| 20:49 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij14_demagogue.png |
| 20:49 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij14_demagogue2.png |
| 20:49 | <@Ceddobear> | There we go. Command 'frame. |
| 20:51 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij14_demagogue3.png |
| 20:51 | <@Ceddobear> | Dat ass. |
| 20:51 | < MittenNinja> | lookin good |
| 20:51 | <@Ceddobear> | Whew. |
| 20:51 | <@Ceddobear> | All done! |
| 20:51 | <@Ceddobear> | Happy Panda. |
| 20:51 | <@Ceddobear> | Now to get the parts list and gouge my eyes out over it. |
| 20:54 | <~Noah> | Ah, here we go, https://github.com/zach-walton/donald/blob/master/donald.py |
| 20:54 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cotrm.png |
| 20:54 | <@Ceddobear> | Conclave of the Risen Moon. |
| 20:55 | < MittenNinja> | very nice sir |
| 20:55 | <@Ceddobear> | *bows* Thank you! |
| 20:55 | <@Ceddobear> | 1350 bricks again. |
| 20:55 | <@Ceddobear> | There goes another 150 Euros. |
| 20:58 | <@Ceddobear> | But hey, they're spiffy as all fuck. ^-^v |
| 21:00 | <@Ceddobear> | For comparison, the Assembly again: |
| 21:00 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/aotmuc.png |
| 21:01 | < MittenNinja> | there isnt a way to get a part list directly from ldd is there? |
| 21:01 | <@Ceddobear> | Sure is. |
| 21:01 | <@Ceddobear> | BUilding Guide -> HTML -> Last Page. |
| 21:01 | < MittenNinja> | well shit |
| 21:04 | <@Ceddobear> | I think I just gave LDD a seizure. |
| 21:04 | <@Ceddobear> | Asked for a building guide for those 8 'frames in one fell swoop. |
| 21:04 | <@Ceddobear> | It's calculating for over 5 minutes now. :D |
| 21:04 | <@Ceddobear> | Ah, there we go. 420 steps. |
| 21:05 | < MittenNinja> | jesus |
| 21:06 | <@Ceddobear> | It's the best way to get the partslist for an entire company. |
| 21:06 | <@Ceddobear> | It's just ... tedious. :D |
| 21:06 | <@Ceddobear> | When I am done, I take the HTML output, throw it into Excel, resize all images and then I can FINALLY work with the list. :D |
| 21:07 | <@Ceddobear> | The HTML page has so much code, weaker computers can't load the page. |
| 21:10 | <~Noah> | Could probably parse out the useful bits with python |
| 21:24 | <@Ceddobear> | Oh, HAI Thunderbird. Why don't you crash a little bit. |
| 21:54 | <@Ceddobear> | It's so quiet in here. :( |
| 21:55 | <~Noah> | It guess not only mages... |
| 21:55 | <~Noah> | !shades |
| 21:55 | <~Noah> | Can be silenced. |
| 21:56 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 21:56 | <~Noah> | Awesome lag~ |
| 22:01 | <@Ceddobear> | Yeah, he is ... |
| 22:01 | <@Ceddobear> | ... slow. |
| 22:02 | < MittenNinja> | he is just a bot |
| 22:02 | <~Noah> | You're just a bot |
| 22:02 | < MittenNinja> | shit, they found out |
| 22:02 | | * MittenNinja looks around the room frantically |
| 22:05 | | * Ceddobear charges the EMP. |
| 22:06 | <@Ceddobear> | Oh. |
| 22:06 | | * MittenNinja jumps out the window |
| 22:06 | <@Ceddobear> | It's 3 to 5 in the US. |
| 22:06 | <@Ceddobear> | No wonder shit's going slow. |
| 22:06 | < MittenNinja> | 3:06pm here |
| 22:06 | <~Noah> | WRONG |
| 22:06 | <~Noah> | It's five oh six here. |
| 22:07 | < MittenNinja> | MOUNTAIN TIME BITCHES |
| 22:07 | <@Ceddobear> | People are wrapping up their workdays, drive home, are stuck in traffic and go groceries shopping. |
| 22:07 | <@Ceddobear> | I guess it'll be more lively in an hour or two. |
| 22:07 | | mode/#mf0 [+h JoshuaACNewman] by Ceddobear |
| 22:08 | | Ceddobear is now known as Ced23Ric |
| 22:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'm so bored, I could nap that time away. |
| 22:09 | <~Noah> | Bah, I want a nap |
| 22:09 | < MittenNinja> | then nap. nap good sirs |
| 22:09 | <~Noah> | okay, come watch my kids then |
| 22:09 | < MittenNinja> | and i will keep watch over that EMP of yours |
| 22:10 | | KarolineDianne [NSwebIRC@Nightstar-35371e3c.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mf0 |
| 22:10 | < MittenNinja> | KD |
| 22:10 | < KarolineDianne> | Yes? |
| 22:10 | < MittenNinja> | whats up? |
| 22:10 | < KarolineDianne> | Just got home from work |
| 22:10 | < MittenNinja> | nice |
| 22:10 | < KarolineDianne> | Tore off my gross sweaty work clothes and flopped on my bed witht he laptop. wooooo |
| 22:11 | <~Noah> | Once JoshuaACNewman registers with nickserv, I can add him to the aop list |
| 22:11 | < KarolineDianne> | No one else is home so I dun give a fuk |
| 22:11 | < KarolineDianne> | It's goddamn hot |
| 22:11 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 22:11 | < MittenNinja> | noah: aop? |
| 22:11 | <~Noah> | Auto-op |
| 22:12 | < MittenNinja> | ah |
| 22:38 | < MittenNinja> | Alright, so I'm starting to rework my companies for the demo games I'll be running at con. Any suggestions? |
| 22:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mittens: Sure. |
| 22:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Give them tools to play with in doubles. |
| 22:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | 2x Arty, 2x Spot, 2x DF, 2x HtH, for example. |
| 22:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or combine the Arty, so you only need 6. |
| 22:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then make a balanced company, 6x Soldiers. |
| 22:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | And a tool box, with one YYBB, one HHBG, one DFDFBG, one Soldier, one AAYY, one AYBG. |
| 22:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | That should give you a wide array of options. |
| 22:42 | < MittenNinja> | hrm |
| 22:42 | < MittenNinja> | have you tried that out in practice? |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nope. |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just a wild guess. |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have tried out the companies you see in the battle reports. |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you have equal companies, numbers will win. |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | If not, tactics are more important. |
| 22:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Specialists can take Generalists, if used to their advantage. |
| 22:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | But two Generalists will most likely part with the larger company being victorious. |
| 23:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... now I feel like I have no life. 998 posts. |
| 23:03 | <@Soren> | It's okay. We all agree with you ;). |
| 23:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 23:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's the worst part of it. |
| 23:07 | <@Soren> | thought it might be |
| 23:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | What are you up to? Entertain me. Now. |
| 23:07 | <@Soren> | writing. |
| 23:08 | <@Soren> | figuring out how bad I gotta freak out by making sure I do actually have all the parts I need for the last custom company |
| 23:08 | <@Soren> | So, the usual. |
| 23:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wish to partake in some of it. |
| 23:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | What's the last custom company anyway? |
| 23:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... how was the faction split, actually? |
| 23:13 | <@Soren> | pretty UMFL heavy. |
| 23:13 | <@Soren> | one each of the others. |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | One Ijad, one FC? |
| 23:14 | <@Soren> | last custom company is TEM, in blue. |
| 23:14 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | And, what, four UMFL? |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | People are so predictable. :D |
| 23:14 | <@Soren> | 3. |
| 23:14 | <@Soren> | Well, the special editions are an even 3-ways split by design. |
| 23:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Deep down, we want to be dominated by an overpowering, yet stable government..! |
| 23:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | 2 of each? |
| 23:15 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 23:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wait, what's the difference between custom and special? |
| 23:15 | <@Soren> | special editions, we set ahead of time. |
| 23:15 | <@Soren> | custom is, you ask me for whatever and I do my best to deliver. |
| 23:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | So, those were 6 companies already fleshed out. |
| 23:15 | <@Soren> | yeah. |
| 23:16 | <@Soren> | I bet you anything your Ijad and my Ijad pump up interest in that faction. And then i want to give the Free Colonies some love. |
| 23:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | And custom was ? la carte. |
| 23:16 | <@Soren> | yeah. |
| 23:16 | | KarolineDianne [NSwebIRC@Nightstar-35371e3c.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Page closed] |
| 23:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I'll post the Council as soon as I get the parts. |
| 23:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Majority is shipped. |
| 23:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | So, this weeks is looking good. |
| 23:16 | <@Soren> | excellent. |
| 23:16 | <@Soren> | indeed. |
| 23:16 | <@Soren> | Man. Masonry bricks. |
| 23:17 | <@Soren> | so pretty. |
| 23:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | And then, next month, there will be the Moonies. |
| 23:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | Cannot justify dropping another 150EUR right now. :D |
| 23:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | But I am somewhat sure, the Moonies will receive even more praise than the Councillants. |
| 23:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just a hutch. |
| 23:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | But people usually prefer beefy tanks. |
| 23:18 | <@Soren> | usually. |
| 23:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | And it's blue. |
| 23:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | World's most chosen fav colour. :D |
| 23:21 | < MittenNinja> | I need to build up some more FC stuff |
| 23:21 | < MittenNinja> | and hell |
| 23:21 | < MittenNinja> | i need to build some ijad too |
| 23:21 | <@Soren> | prepare to be out of clips all the time. |
| 23:22 | < MittenNinja> | not for my ijad |
| 23:22 | < MittenNinja> | they arent going to use more than a chub rreally |
| 23:22 | < MittenNinja> | I've just got some build issues to work out still |
| 23:24 | <@Soren> | fair enough |
| 23:25 | <@Soren> | I think Ijad might actually be the cheapest to build, just because you can do their base frame with, what, eight or nine parts, in incredible mass quantities. |
| 23:26 | < MittenNinja> | very true |
| 23:26 | < MittenNinja> | the least parts intensive for sure |
| 23:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Your Ijads, yeah. |
| 23:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mine ... not so much. |
| 23:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | 1100 for 8 purple, 1300 for 8 blue Ijad 'frames. |
| 23:27 | < MittenNinja> | so ceddo |
| 23:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Bricks, that is. |
| 23:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | So Mittens! |
| 23:28 | < MittenNinja> | what do the "@" and "%" signs mean in front of everyone's nicks? |
| 23:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | @ = Operator |
| 23:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Can kick, ban, set modes, etc. |
| 23:28 | < MittenNinja> | aha |
| 23:28 | < MittenNinja> | i'm new to this whole irc thing |
| 23:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | % = Half Operator. Can kick, set minor modes, etc. |
| 23:28 | < MittenNinja> | if you didnt notice already |
| 23:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | + = Voiced. Can talk when channel is moderated. |
| 23:28 | | mode/#mf0 [+m] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now people /wo + cannot talk. |
| 23:29 | | mode/#mf0 [+vvv _calculus aiac mf0bot] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:29 | | mode/#mf0 [+v MittenNinja] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now you can talk again. |
| 23:29 | <+MittenNinja> | interesting |
| 23:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's a tool for mass audience, low speaker count. |
| 23:29 | <+MittenNinja> | right |
| 23:29 | <@Soren> | we really should auto-voice all the regulars. |
| 23:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you've ever seen channels with 1000++ users .. |
| 23:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... you start to appreciate it. |
| 23:29 | <@Soren> | Just so if Chrons pops in we can shut down his rage. |
| 23:29 | <+MittenNinja> | lol |
| 23:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hrhr. |
| 23:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Chrons is so funny. |
| 23:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Anyway. Modes are set either with quick commands /op or mode commands /mode #channel + or - x Username |
| 23:30 | | mode/#mf0 [-m] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:30 | | mode/#mf0 [-vvv _calculus aiac mf0bot] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:31 | | mode/#mf0 [-v MittenNinja] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Like so. |
| 23:31 | < MittenNinja> | awesome |
| 23:32 | | Ced23Ric changed the topic of #mf0 to: Mobile Frame Zero:Rapid Attack. "You'll be shitting bricks." | Logs: http://goo.gl/gcEEk | Beta Rules: http://goo.gl/AGKp8 | BLog: http://mf0irc.blogspot.com/ |
| 23:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | There, have some colou. |
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| 23:35 | <@Soren> | hey hey! |
| 23:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | The Dukster. |
| 23:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey! |
| 23:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wanna see the end of it all? |
| 23:35 | < Dukayn> | Sure |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Where did we leave off? |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Did you see the finalized Spinfusor 'frame? |
| 23:37 | < Dukayn> | I dunno if it was finalised |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well then, here it is: |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij11_revelator.png |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | The VIJ-11 Revelator. |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | DF DF Y B. |
| 23:38 | < Dukayn> | cool cool |
| 23:38 | < MittenNinja> | duke! |
| 23:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was putzing about with some Arty when you left. |
| 23:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Here's the VIJ-12 Messenger. |
| 23:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij12_messenger.png |
| 23:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | A Y Y B. |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | And the VIJ-13 Acolyte |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij13_acolyte.png |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | DF Y B G |
| 23:39 | < Dukayn> | Messenger is sweet |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | And finally, the VIJ-14 Demagogue. |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij13_acolyte.png |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | DF Y Y B. |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | The latter two have SSRs, too. |
| 23:39 | < Dukayn> | You linked the Acolyte again :P |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | DAMN. |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij14_demagogue.png |
| 23:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | There. :D |
| 23:40 | < Dukayn> | Very nice dude |
| 23:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cotrm.png |
| 23:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Groupshot. |
| 23:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | 1334 bricks. D: |
| 23:40 | <@Soren> | yay I got my masonry bricks |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yay for masonry bricks! |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Can't wait for the Stud & Tube. |
| 23:41 | < Dukayn> | \o/ |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yo, Soren. |
| 23:41 | < Dukayn> | I dreamt that my bricklink order arrived today :P |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | There's a super lot. |
| 23:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | 10x of each color crystals: dark blue, green, neon green, orange, red. |
| 23:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | So 50 crystals. |
| 23:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | For 8 bucks. |
| 23:42 | <@Soren> | You know. I've already loaded up on thise. |
| 23:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Grab or pass? |
| 23:42 | <@Soren> | those* |
| 23:42 | <@Soren> | You should get them for yourself, but I appreciate it. |
| 23:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I WANT to. |
| 23:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am asking you whether the deal is alright. |
| 23:43 | <@Soren> | that's a good deal. |
| 23:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's US$ 0.16 per. |
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| 23:43 | <@Soren> | Yeah, that's better than some of the prices you could end up paying. |
| 23:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sweet. *grabs* |
| 23:43 | <@Soren> | super lots are usually good deals but more of a thing than I want. |
| 23:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | MittenNinja: Sandgreen Tiles are ordered. |
| 23:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren: I like the "Get what you want and something to spark your creativity" feel of superlots. :D |
| 23:52 | <@Soren> | yeah. |
| 23:54 | < MittenNinja> | awesome, thanks dude |
| --- Log closed Tue Jun 05 00:00:48 2012 |