| --- Log opened Tue Jun 05 00:00:48 2012 |
| 00:03 | | Noah changed the topic of #mf0 to: Micro Construct Tactics Nova: Mobile Frame Zero: Rapid Attack. - | (o ? o)|?(????) - Logs: http://goo.gl/gcEEk - Beta Rules at Kickstarter: http://goo.gl/AGKp8 - DA BLAG: http://mf0irc.blogspot.com/ |
| 00:03 | <~Noah> | Ced23Ric: You're terrible at topics |
| 00:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | You're inefficient at topics. |
| 00:03 | <~Noah> | I'm not german, get over it |
| 00:04 | <~Noah> | Now hush, I'm rocking out to Marciline's song on Adventure Time |
| 00:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | SURE. |
| 00:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Poop on my plate AND take my cutlery. |
| 00:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Help yourself, why don't you. |
| 00:05 | <~Noah> | Also, I ducktaped your hands behind your back, dive in |
| 00:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | You know what turns me on. |
| 00:05 | <~Noah> | Poop? |
| 00:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Duct tape. |
| 00:05 | <~Noah> | Duck...poop? |
| 00:07 | < MittenNinja> | Duke, did you see my newest creation? |
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| 00:11 | <@Soren> | NNNNETS HAVE ARRIVED |
| 00:11 | < Dukayn> | OH SHIT IT'S J |
| 00:11 | < Dukayn> | QUICK HIDE THE.... SOMETHING BAD |
| 00:11 | < Dukayn> | Mittens - yes please |
| 00:13 | <~Noah> | JoshuaACNewman: Thoughts on Adventure Time? |
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| 00:13 | < MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7338042252/ |
| 00:13 | <~Noah> | That's harsh man |
| 00:13 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 00:14 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 00:14 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: What the hell parts are those? lol |
| 00:14 | < MittenNinja> | Soren: NETS YUSSSS! |
| 00:14 | < MittenNinja> | the shoulders? |
| 00:14 | < Dukayn> | it's fabulous, darling |
| 00:14 | <~Noah> | Yea those |
| 00:14 | < MittenNinja> | it's an aztec warrior helmet |
| 00:15 | < MittenNinja> | and a posideon hair thing |
| 00:15 | < MittenNinja> | ty |
| 00:16 | < Dukayn> | Those are the only things I don't like |
| 00:16 | < MittenNinja> | you dont like the shoulders? |
| 00:17 | < Dukayn> | They don't seem to fit the aesthetic |
| 00:17 | < Dukayn> | But, then I haven't seen any more of the company |
| 00:17 | < MittenNinja> | yeah, those shoulders are going to be a common theme throughout |
| 00:18 | < Dukayn> | Cool |
| 00:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | So. |
| 00:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren got the slopes. |
| 00:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | So it takes, what, 5 to 6 days? |
| 00:21 | <@Soren> | about |
| 00:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's actually pretty good! |
| 00:21 | <@Soren> | not bad at all. |
| 00:21 | <@Soren> | yeah! |
| 00:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey, how fast do your Kangaroos deliver? |
| 00:21 | <@Soren> | Better than some of my bricklink orders. |
| 00:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ha! |
| 00:22 | | * Ced23Ric 's a better BrickLinker than most. |
| 00:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | For starters: No invoice. |
| 00:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 00:22 | <@Soren> | it's true. |
| 00:22 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 00:22 | < Dukayn> | I have no idea |
| 00:22 | < Dukayn> | Could be weeks :P |
| 00:23 | <@Soren> | OKay, these hero Factory hex-shield things are the fuckin' win. |
| 00:23 | < MittenNinja> | so Ced, it's apparently a bigger pain in the ass to send stuff out of the US than it is to send things to the US |
| 00:23 | < Dukayn> | Usually posting to Australia goes like this: Anywhere in the world -> Melbourne, max 3 days. Melbourne -> Hobart, minimum a week. |
| 00:23 | <~Noah> | Yea, we love stuff coming in, just not out |
| 00:23 | <~Noah> | Except dang aliens |
| 00:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | I bet they dump ALL MAIL in North Ozzytown. And then, Centipedes drive them to Central Ozzington. Where Kangaroos get it stuffed into their meat sacks. |
| 00:24 | < Dukayn> | What happens is you get air freighted to Melbourne |
| 00:24 | < Dukayn> | Then it goes on the boat OVERNIGHT to Devonport, in north Tassie. |
| 00:24 | < Dukayn> | Then it gets DRIVEN down to Hobart. |
| 00:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then, they hop to the nearest Aborigine village and then trade the mail for boxing gloves. |
| 00:24 | < Dukayn> | Because fuck Tasmanians. |
| 00:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | The Aborigines then wander to whereever the mail needs to be. Speed depending on petrol. |
| 00:24 | < Dukayn> | This is of course after Melbourne holds onto it for a week just because they're hateful beings. |
| 00:25 | < Dukayn> | Dude, that's like me suggesting your mail is delivered by Blitzkrieg |
| 00:25 | < MittenNinja> | wait, it isnt? |
| 00:25 | <@Soren> | I'd buy that, though. |
| 00:26 | <~Noah> | I thought it was by zepplin |
| 00:26 | <@Soren> | There was definitely some clanking. |
| 00:26 | <@Soren> | And some guy in a gray uniform being chased by Russians with shit in his pants. |
| 00:26 | < Dukayn> | Pretty sure MASSIVE FIREBALL stopped the zeppelin thing |
| 00:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | It did more than 10d6 damage. |
| 00:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | The Hindenburg had a 50% fire vulnerability. |
| 00:27 | < MittenNinja> | there were other zepplins |
| 00:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Those were WORSE. |
| 00:27 | < MittenNinja> | that didnt go down in a huge ball of flame |
| 00:27 | <@Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=98566 so weird I had to have it! |
| 00:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | They filled those up with live ammunition for flight. |
| 00:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or with angry wolverine cubs. |
| 00:28 | < Dukayn> | Soren: that's a cool piece |
| 00:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | That IS a cool piece. |
| 00:28 | < MittenNinja> | yeah i thought about getting some of those for energy shields |
| 00:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Whatcha doing with it? |
| 00:29 | <~Noah> | Ced23Ric: It was doped with thermite, probably not the best idea |
| 00:29 | < MittenNinja> | prolly not |
| 00:29 | <@Soren> | gonna use them to make a 2B Ijad shield-carrier |
| 00:29 | < MittenNinja> | nice |
| 00:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | OH FUCK ME SIDEWAYS. |
| 00:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | HERO FACTORY. |
| 00:29 | <@Soren> | HAHAHA |
| 00:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | NOT BIONICLE. |
| 00:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | FUCK YOU LDD. |
| 00:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | I searched for YEARS. |
| 00:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | YEARS. |
| 00:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | And the shit is RIGHT FUCKING THERE. |
| 00:30 | | * Ced23Ric rages against the machine. |
| 00:33 | < Dukayn> | the machine doesn't give a shit |
| 00:33 | <~Noah> | Hahah |
| 00:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | You have no fucking idea what this just did to my heart. |
| 00:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | 1.) I feel slighted. Treated injustly. Played. |
| 00:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | 2.) THERE IS A WHOLE NEW WORLD TO EXPLORE. |
| 00:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren: How dozzat stuff even mount? |
| 00:36 | <~Noah> | HAHA, I found this! http://rebeccasugar.tumblr.com/post/10768697473/im-just-your-problem-the-demo-tr ack |
| 00:37 | <@Soren> | ced: axle hole |
| 00:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Where? |
| 00:38 | <@Soren> | toward the thick end |
| 00:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ah. There. |
| 00:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhm. |
| 00:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | How you're gonna mount that? |
| 00:38 | <@Soren> | I'm workin' on it. |
| 00:38 | <@Soren> | Believe me |
| 00:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wanna seeeeeeee. |
| 00:39 | <@Soren> | you will when I have any fucking idea at all ;) |
| 00:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | I could uber help you! |
| 00:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Maybe. |
| 00:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fuck, I am confused now. |
| 00:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | For starters, I ordered some odd parts that I don't need. :( |
| 00:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.bricklink.com/SL/6202-2.jpg?2 |
| 00:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ha! |
| 00:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | This guy know's what's up. |
| 00:42 | <@Soren> | heh |
| 00:49 | <~Noah> | I can't tell where he ends and his pointy weapons begin |
| 00:52 | < MittenNinja> | thats the trick |
| 00:53 | < MittenNinja> | he IS a pointy weapon |
| 00:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren? |
| 00:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mittens? |
| 00:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Any other person with some sense of taste? :D |
| 00:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij14_tophull.png |
| 00:57 | <@Soren> | oh, it's shitful. but some of the parts are neat |
| 00:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dat top part. Whaddaya think? |
| 00:58 | <~Noah> | When does it get too heavy for the legs to support it? |
| 00:58 | < MittenNinja> | it looks cool, but i dont think it fits the aesthetic of the rest of the group |
| 00:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gotcha Mittens. |
| 01:03 | <@Soren> | Oh, hey that was a totally NEW link. |
| 01:03 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 01:03 | <@Soren> | I guess I *am* a troll. |
| 01:03 | <@Soren> | ...with ops. |
| 01:03 | <@Soren> | mwahah. |
| 01:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vij14_tophull2.png |
| 01:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Better? |
| 01:04 | < MittenNinja> | yes |
| 01:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Kk. |
| 01:07 | < Dukayn> | Dammit why aren't links being clickable any more? |
| 01:07 | < Dukayn> | brb |
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| 01:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren |
| 01:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | 1x2 technick brick /w 1 hole in dark green? |
| 01:22 | <~Noah> | Sand green |
| 01:22 | | * MittenNinja snaps out of a distraacted trance |
| 01:22 | < MittenNinja> | what snad green? |
| 01:23 | < MittenNinja> | i heard sand green |
| 01:23 | <~Noah> | Note: MittenNinja apparently has sand green on highlight |
| 01:23 | <~Noah> | Just in case someone is like "free sand green legos!" |
| 01:23 | < MittenNinja> | you never know |
| 01:26 | <@Soren> | Ced: got some, but thanks |
| 01:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, Soren took too long, and now BL is down. |
| 01:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay then. Fine. Be that way. |
| 01:26 | <@Soren> | SORRY. BUILDING ARTILLERY SUPER STRIDER |
| 01:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | PM me pictures. |
| 01:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | Imma go to bed now. |
| 01:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | Laterers! |
| 01:29 | <@Soren> | later! |
| 01:29 | | Ced23Ric is now known as Ced|Bed |
| 01:29 | <@Ced|Bed> | Just query me. :) |
| 01:29 | <@Ced|Bed> | *gone* |
| 01:32 | < Dukayn> | night Ced |
| 01:37 | <~Noah> | BL is down agian? |
| 01:41 | < Dukayn> | is it? |
| 01:41 | <~Noah> | Ced at 20:26 said so |
| 01:42 | < Dukayn> | Hmm |
| 01:42 | < Dukayn> | Bugger |
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| 01:42 | <~Noah> | Also, my phone's new background: http://goo.gl/ww62m |
| 01:42 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/BigChub.png |
| 01:42 | < Dukayn> | too much? |
| 01:42 | <~Noah> | Hello Ax |
| 01:42 | < Dukayn> | Yo Ax |
| 01:43 | <~Noah> | Dukayn: The teeth look like breastplates, for breasts. |
| 01:43 | <~Noah> | Maybe do another grill there? |
| 01:45 | < Dukayn> | who says a Chub can't be female? :P |
| 01:46 | <~Noah> | Oh, good point |
| 01:47 | < Dukayn> | well n ot really |
| 01:47 | < Dukayn> | it's a giant mech, it doesn't have a gender |
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| 01:49 | <@randolph> | Hey guys |
| 01:49 | < Dukayn> | sup randy |
| 01:49 | <@randolph> | Dukayn: I never want to click on anything that says "big chub" but I'll make an exception this once ; ; |
| 01:50 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 01:50 | < Dukayn> | I was going to call him "Chub Norris" but I'm not sure he warrants the title just yet |
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| 01:50 | <@randolph> | His legs do not articulate such that he can axe-kick your mf0 head off |
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| 01:51 | <@randolph> | He does not |
| 01:51 | < Dukayn> | well given an axe kick is a straight-leg smash down with the heel, yes he does |
| 01:51 | <@randolph> | You need vertical motion on the knee |
| 01:52 | < Dukayn> | Axe-kicks aside |
| 01:53 | <@randolph> | It looks good |
| 01:53 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/BigChub2.png |
| 01:53 | <@randolph> | I'm not in love with the 1x2 on the chest though |
| 01:54 | <@randolph> | Hm, better |
| 01:54 | <@randolph> | Is there a reason you're using Ts for the hips with only one clip? |
| 01:54 | <@randolph> | Taps not enough? |
| 01:54 | < Dukayn> | They're not Ts, they're nozzles |
| 01:55 | < Dukayn> | and because LDD is shit and won't let you use Taps properly |
| 01:55 | <@randolph> | Oh |
| 01:55 | <@randolph> | What are the feet? |
| 01:55 | < Dukayn> | light bar |
| 01:55 | <@randolph> | got a link? |
| 01:55 | <@randolph> | I don't think I've seen those before |
| 01:55 | < Dukayn> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=40996 |
| 01:56 | <@randolph> | Huh |
| 01:56 | <@randolph> | Never seen that before |
| 01:56 | < Dukayn> | I was just trawling through LDD parts and went "Hmm that looks interesting. I wonder... " |
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| 02:05 | <@randolph> | o/ |
| 02:05 | <@randolph> | so at the bottom of this window, just below the last line of text,there should be a browser-window-wide white bar |
| 02:06 | <@randolph> | your cursor should be there if it's been selected |
| 02:06 | < Dukayn> | wb Ax |
| 02:06 | < Dukayn> | brb, cooking |
| 02:06 | | Dukayn is now known as Dukayn[AFK] |
| 02:06 | <@randolph> | type stuff there, hit return |
| 02:06 | <@randolph> | if that's not working, try firefox or chrome? |
| 02:07 | <@randolph> | or update your browser version |
| 02:07 | <@randolph> | oh, chatzilla might work |
| 02:07 | <@randolph> | To do that, you don't use the web link |
| 02:08 | <@randolph> | you open chatzilla, type /server irc.nightstar.net |
| 02:08 | <@randolph> | then when it logs you in, type /join #mf0 |
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| 02:15 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | what browser does he use? |
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| 02:16 | < Axhead> | Ok can you hear me now? |
| 02:17 | < MittenNinja> | yessir |
| 02:17 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | \o/ |
| 02:17 | < Axhead> | Yah! The joys of not modern technology! |
| 02:21 | <@randolph> | woo |
| 02:21 | <@randolph> | So it was just webbrowser client failing you? |
| 02:21 | < Axhead> | I just didn't know what I was doing, but I think I got it figured out now. |
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| 02:22 | <@randolph> | hehe |
| 02:22 | < Axhead> | I was going directly from the link over at the hanger instead of through Chatzilla. |
| 02:22 | < Axhead> | Thanks for the pointers homie :) |
| 02:23 | <@randolph> | np |
| 02:23 | <@randolph> | the direct link is what I'm using; if the text input wasn't working, I think you might have had script security too tight |
| 02:23 | <@randolph> | or a scriptblocker addon or something |
| 02:24 | < Axhead> | Well its all good now, |
| 02:26 | <@randolph> | So here for the theorycraft? |
| 02:26 | <@randolph> | There aren't a lot of active people atm |
| 02:26 | < Axhead> | Yup, and the super models... but dont tell Mrs.Head |
| 02:26 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | So which is the mittens who's actually here? MittenNinja or MittenMobile ? |
| 02:27 | <@randolph> | Always two there are. The left, and the right mitten. |
| 02:27 | <@randolph> | Mrs. Head. I-- no. Too easy. |
| 02:28 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Does Mrs. Head know about your girlfriend, Mrs. Hand? |
| 02:28 | < Axhead> | Why do you think I married her :) |
| 02:28 | <@randolph> | Oh man >_< |
| 02:28 | < Axhead> | After 15 years she probably has it figured out. |
| 02:28 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | She IS pretty good |
| 02:28 | <@randolph> | Not touching that with an 8 unit ruler |
| 02:28 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | I've got an 8 unit ruler |
| 02:28 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | !shades |
| 02:28 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | In my pants |
| 02:28 | < mf0bot> | YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! |
| 02:29 | <@randolph> | I always figured you weren't long enough for Artillery <_< |
| 02:29 | < Axhead> | Aw poop. The wee hatchet just finished dinner and needs a shower, be back in a while. |
| 02:29 | <@randolph> | later |
| 02:29 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | cya |
| 02:30 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | sounds like his kids eat just as tidily as mine :P |
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| 02:30 | <@randolph> | heheh |
| 02:32 | <~Noah> | My son can eat a bowl of beans without any mess, but somehow smear a sandwich over himself |
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| 02:42 | <@randolph> | o/ |
| 02:42 | < Dukayn> | sup afny |
| 02:42 | < afny> | o/ |
| 02:43 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/BigChub2.png |
| 02:43 | < Dukayn> | It's MFZ-related I promise :P |
| 02:43 | < afny> | oh god he's like one of those body builders with tiny hands |
| 02:44 | <~Noah> | nuh uh tis penix dun click |
| 02:44 | <@randolph> | ooh, use tiny minifig hands |
| 02:44 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 02:44 | < Dukayn> | no |
| 02:44 | <@randolph> | and give him smooth tire forearms |
| 02:44 | < afny> | What are those feet? |
| 02:44 | < Dukayn> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=40996 |
| 02:44 | <@randolph> | I wonder if you can scale the ST07 up. |
| 02:44 | <@randolph> | Like twice as big. |
| 02:44 | < afny> | I'm working on that |
| 02:45 | <@randolph> | "massive chub" |
| 02:45 | < afny> | for my psycho gundam chub |
| 02:45 | < Dukayn> | nice |
| 02:45 | < afny> | it's got a radar dish for a head |
| 02:45 | < afny> | well, part of the head |
| 02:45 | < afny> | a 4x4 |
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| 02:49 | < Tetrajak> | Heya peeps |
| 02:49 | <~Noah> | Fo'jay |
| 02:49 | <~Noah> | Me |
| 02:49 | <~Noah> | You |
| 02:49 | <~Noah> | Bass Battle |
| 02:49 | <~Noah> | Now |
| 02:49 | < Tetrajak> | Bass Battle? |
| 02:49 | < Dukayn> | TJ |
| 02:49 | < Dukayn> | you're going to hit each other with fish? |
| 02:50 | < Tetrajak> | I'm... not sure |
| 02:50 | <~Noah> | Precisely |
| 02:51 | < Tetrajak> | So I've been giving some thought with regards to the debates on the forums surrounding defense and spotting. |
| 02:51 | < Tetrajak> | Let me explain; |
| 02:51 | < Tetrajak> | I understand that defense is less powerful than spot+attack so that you can actually do damage to the enemy |
| 02:52 | < Tetrajak> | I understand that spot exists, in part, so that you can combine it with attack to get a higher number than the enemy's defense. |
| 02:52 | < Tetrajak> | Why not just dispose of spot AND defense, and dispose of all the confusion that's going on surrounding them? P.S. other mechanics that have similar effects to the bonuses granted by each of these stats come to mind. |
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| 02:53 | < Tetrajak> | So it's simply attack roll = number of damage dice to roll. |
| 02:53 | < Tetrajak> | rather than attack + spot - defense = damage dice |
| 02:53 | < Dukayn> | cos then there's no option to make a mech tougher, if you so wish. |
| 02:54 | < Dukayn> | And I doubt V, J, and Soren are going to remove 2 of the core elements of the game this close to release |
| 02:54 | < Tetrajak> | Yea, I realise that |
| 02:54 | <@randolph> | Because those are each "things" |
| 02:54 | <@randolph> | You can optimize |
| 02:54 | <@Soren> | I kinda doubt it, yeah. |
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| 02:54 | <~Noah> | Could add a new system, a hacking system, that lets you reduce a spot on a target |
| 02:54 | <@randolph> | There's a triangle, skewed towards damage. |
| 02:54 | <@randolph> | You take two legs away, and it's incredibly shallow |
| 02:55 | <~Noah> | Yea, it's not an equalateral triangle, it's |
| 02:55 | < afny> | Noah, blue dice already fills that role |
| 02:55 | <~Noah> | An... eye-sauce-o-lease |
| 02:55 | <@randolph> | You never want *no* Defense, well almost never. |
| 02:55 | < Tetrajak> | I know, I know, what I'm proposing will make the game mechanics less complex, and thus less interesting to play with. However, like I said, there's room for something else in there that isn't just adding math |
| 02:55 | <@randolph> | Yeah, but right now, there's an interesting design space/optimization space wrt damage vs. damage dice |
| 02:56 | <@randolph> | Like the tradeoff between cover and defense, and that synergy |
| 02:56 | <@randolph> | I'm not sure we're at baby-with-bathwater point yet |
| 02:56 | < Tetrajak> | eh? |
| 02:56 | <@randolph> | (Also, I think with a couple weeks to release, they'd be like, hell no) |
| 02:56 | < Tetrajak> | Yes, that too |
| 02:57 | <@randolph> | I mean, sure, hypothetical even more perfect game, but... what's that saying about there's a time to shoot the engineers and release? |
| 02:57 | < Tetrajak> | Mostly, what I'm saying is that defense and spot appear pointless when they solely exist to mitigate one-another |
| 02:57 | <@randolph> | Hm. |
| 02:57 | <@randolph> | Spot also exists to allow one-shots :p |
| 02:57 | < Tetrajak> | what do you mean? |
| 02:57 | < afny> | I don't think they SOLELY exist. Both would be meaningful without the other. |
| 02:58 | <@randolph> | After the first few activations, there are targets with low def |
| 02:58 | <~Noah> | Well, spot isn't perfect, it does have range to deal with if you're using less than two spot systems |
| 02:58 | <@randolph> | You could use your spot to mitigate def 6 |
| 02:58 | <@randolph> | or you could lay that spot on def 0 or 1, and just OWN it |
| 02:58 | <~Noah> | ^^ |
| 02:58 | <~Noah> | OWN IT OWN IT PEW PEW PEW |
| 02:59 | < Tetrajak> | True, it does augment the amount of damage dealt versus a frame with low defense, but then consider a game where spot and defense don't exist |
| 02:59 | <@randolph> | Then it's super swingy |
| 02:59 | < Tetrajak> | you have a more constant rate of damage, but no very large hits |
| 02:59 | <@randolph> | Right now, spot gives you the option to smooth out low attacks, or spike high ones |
| 03:00 | <@randolph> | More control, more interesting choices |
| 03:00 | < Tetrajak> | fair point |
| 03:00 | < afny> | very large hits are an intentional part of the game |
| 03:00 | <@randolph> | And I really like the choice to "waste" high spots on crap rolls or not |
| 03:00 | < afny> | they have to be, or spot wouldn't work like it does after all this time |
| 03:00 | < Dukayn> | everyone loves that BOOM HEADSHOT moment |
| 03:01 | < afny> | except when your enemy's cockpit is in the chest, and then you're like OH SHIT, then he shoots YOU in the chest, but YOUR cockpit is in the head, and everyone is like WHAAAAT |
| 03:01 | <~Noah> | And it helps to mitigate cover as well for those low defs |
| 03:01 | <@randolph> | haha afny |
| 03:01 | <~Noah> | Assuming you don't just want to blast the cover to bits |
| 03:01 | < Dukayn> | afny: Psh. You know what I mean |
| 03:01 | <@randolph> | Only putting cockpits in the lower abdominal region from now on |
| 03:01 | < afny> | Yeah, I just like COCKPITS. |
| 03:01 | < Dukayn> | You just like COCKS |
| 03:01 | < afny> | You got me. |
| 03:01 | < Tetrajak> | You all make very good points. I retract my proposal. |
| 03:02 | <@randolph> | What what in the thoracic region |
| 03:02 | < afny> | Randolph: We could just be Zone of the Enders and put our cockpits in giant articulated wangs. |
| 03:02 | < Dukayn> | Woah woah woah |
| 03:02 | < Dukayn> | Did someone just admit defeat in an argument ON THE INTERNET? |
| 03:02 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 03:02 | < Dukayn> | WHERE IS THE NAME CALLING? |
| 03:02 | < afny> | Defeat? Hardly. |
| 03:02 | < Tetrajak> | Hahaha |
| 03:02 | <@randolph> | butts |
| 03:02 | <~Noah> | AND THE FLAMING |
| 03:02 | <~Noah> | I DEMAND FLAMING |
| 03:02 | < Tetrajak> | Perhaps I am open minded? |
| 03:02 | < Dukayn> | Well he conceded the point |
| 03:03 | < Dukayn> | TJ, you are one in a million |
| 03:03 | < Dukayn> | I salute you |
| 03:03 | < Dukayn> | o7 |
| 03:03 | < Tetrajak> | Hahaha, thank you very much Dukayn |
| 03:03 | <@randolph> | MUST. USE. ROTARY JACKHAMMER OF DEBATE. |
| 03:03 | <~Noah> | Tetrajak: You're what? |
| 03:03 | < Tetrajak> | Noah: open minded? |
| 03:03 | <~Noah> | What? |
| 03:03 | < afny> | WHAT. |
| 03:04 | <~Noah> | Huh? |
| 03:04 | <~Noah> | Fo'jay keeps putting those two words together, I don't get it, it's like beef plunger |
| 03:04 | <~Noah> | WHAT? |
| 03:04 | <@randolph> | haha fo'jay |
| 03:04 | <@randolph> | I get it now |
| 03:04 | < Tetrajak> | Noah: you're not familiar with the term "open minded"? |
| 03:04 | < afny> | Noah thinks he's a gangster. |
| 03:04 | <@randolph> | (this is a joke) |
| 03:04 | < Tetrajak> | ah, ok |
| 03:05 | <@randolph> | (He is joking. He's pretending to be... wait, this is logged, nevermind.) |
| 03:05 | <~Noah> | There he goes again, oooooooppeeeeeeen miiiiiiindddddeed |
| 03:05 | <@randolph> | It's an advanced case of conjunctive trepanation, Noah. |
| 03:05 | <~Noah> | Oh, that explains it |
| 03:05 | < afny> | We make the holes in our skulls to let the spirits in. |
| 03:05 | < afny> | It's a very simple procedure. |
| 03:05 | <~Noah> | Fo'jay: Sorry about your eye infection |
| 03:06 | < Tetrajak> | lololol |
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| 03:29 | < afny> | hey KD |
| 03:29 | <@randolph> | Hey |
| 03:30 | < KarolineDianne> | Hey yea yea yea-yeah! Hey yeah yeah! I said hey... What's going on? :D |
| 03:31 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmw03_gadian_b6.png |
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| 03:32 | < Dukayn> | hahahaha that's right, that's what happens when I /facepalm :P |
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| 03:33 | < Dukayn> | wb TJ |
| 03:37 | < Tetrajak> | ty. I lagged out again, but was able to send a quit command to prevent my username from being stolen by my past connection |
| 03:39 | <@randolph> | Caught in a lagwar beyond his ability to fight, the forces of 4J made one, last, desperate effort: to send a command back in time before their very selves were lost - replaced by the machines sworn to destroy them. |
| 03:40 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 03:48 | | Soren|away is now known as Soren |
| 03:51 | < Tetrajak> | it's true |
| 03:53 | < Dukayn> | wb Soren |
| 03:53 | <@Soren> | ty. |
| 03:56 | < Dukayn> | gah, I hate coming up with backpack sensor array designs |
| 03:56 | < afny> | hey me too |
| 03:56 | < afny> | I always make them too gigantic or too dinky |
| 03:56 | < Dukayn> | I just can't find anything I like :P |
| 03:58 | < Dukayn> | Soren: Would like your input on this http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/BigChub2.png |
| 03:58 | <@Soren> | Okay, now you're not even trying to pretend you're not baiting me. |
| 03:59 | <@Soren> | curvy feets! |
| 03:59 | <@Soren> | arms seem a little ridiculous from this angle, might be too small of the shoulder width. |
| 03:59 | < Dukayn> | It's not so bad with a gun in them |
| 03:59 | <@Soren> | Yeah, I buy that. |
| 03:59 | < afny> | I likened it to one of those bodybuilders with tiny hands |
| 04:00 | < afny> | but I really like the shoes |
| 04:00 | < Dukayn> | haha yeah it's a bit like that |
| 04:00 | < Dukayn> | I can always throw another headlight in the arms |
| 04:00 | < Dukayn> | I just went with standard Chub |
| 04:01 | < afny> | any reason why you chose t joints over taps for the waist? |
| 04:01 | < MittenNinja> | my guess is because its ldd |
| 04:01 | < Dukayn> | They're nozzles, and because LDD doesn't let you do the tap/clip properly |
| 04:01 | < afny> | oh |
| 04:01 | <@Soren> | Yeah, LDD is a butthole with extra butt sauce. |
| 04:01 | < afny> | really? what? you can't put a clip on a tap? |
| 04:02 | < MittenNinja> | not at that angle |
| 04:02 | < afny> | I thought it just wouldn't let you do stuff with technic bricks |
| 04:02 | < Dukayn> | only if the tap is facing "vertical" |
| 04:02 | < afny> | fuck LDD |
| 04:02 | < MittenNinja> | you also cant plug a stud into the hole on a technic brick for whatever reason |
| 04:02 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 04:02 | < Dukayn> | Oh, you can on a dish |
| 04:02 | < MittenNinja> | but not anything else |
| 04:03 | < Dukayn> | 1x1 plates and 1x1 round plates you can |
| 04:03 | < MittenNinja> | dishes must be magical |
| 04:03 | < Dukayn> | but not most |
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| 04:05 | < Dukayn> | [12:58] Soren: Okay, now you're not even trying to pretend you're not baiting me. << little but insulting, really :P |
| 04:05 | < Dukayn> | but = bit |
| 04:05 | <@Soren> | apologies. I was attempting to be witty, but I'm distracted. |
| 04:05 | | * randolph pats Dukayn |
| 04:05 | < MittenNinja> | heya gundam |
| 04:05 | < XGundam05> | hey |
| 04:05 | <@randolph> | It's okay, bro, I like it |
| 04:05 | < Dukayn> | hey Gundam |
| 04:05 | < MittenNinja> | have you been on here before? |
| 04:06 | < XGundam05> | once |
| 04:06 | <@Soren> | Also I might be used to the raging assholery that Cedric pulls. |
| 04:06 | < Dukayn> | I don't mind if people don't like it. |
| 04:06 | < afny> | I miss it |
| 04:06 | < MittenNinja> | that could be it |
| 04:06 | < afny> | yesterday he told me I was like a five year old coloring on the wall with crayons. |
| 04:06 | <@Soren> | Oh, no, I meant before, talking about looking for designs Iyou like. |
| 04:06 | < afny> | I took it as a compliment. |
| 04:06 | <@Soren> | -i |
| 04:06 | <@randolph> | Agh, I feel like an Ijad is trying to burst out of my skull cavity |
| 04:06 | < Dukayn> | OH |
| 04:06 | < Dukayn> | that |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | I wasn't intentionally baiting you |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | Just having a whinge. |
| 04:07 | <@Soren> | and yeah, totally joking. I actually like solving those design problems a lot. |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | If, however, you want to come up with something GO AHEAD :) |
| 04:07 | <@Soren> | I'm scanning around to see if I have something already. |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | making a good looking spot system is the hardest part for me |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | it's always tempting to just go "there, antenna, done" |
| 04:08 | <@Soren> | yeah, I usually go with a forest of antennae or a scope. |
| 04:08 | <@randolph> | "There, antenna--" damn <_< |
| 04:08 | < MittenNinja> | did you see the one i have on the overwatxh meerkat? |
| 04:08 | < afny> | is it 1Y or 2Y |
| 04:08 | <@randolph> | Each Y needs one |
| 04:08 | < MittenNinja> | -x+c |
| 04:08 | <@randolph> | Otherwise you can't split them off |
| 04:08 | < afny> | Yeah, but I mean, are you making a frame with 1Y or 2Y |
| 04:08 | <@Soren> | for 2Y I like bigger stuff that can break in stages. |
| 04:08 | < Dukayn> | agreed randy |
| 04:08 | < afny> | yeah, same |
| 04:08 | < MittenNinja> | yeah soren thats what i do too |
| 04:08 | < afny> | if I make something 2Y it's usually integrated but with breakable parts |
| 04:08 | <@randolph> | I like using scopes on stuff |
| 04:09 | < Dukayn> | Although on the Nightingale, 1Y is his antennae, the other Y is his rifle scope :) |
| 04:09 | <@Soren> | but still just sort of natively larger and more sensory. |
| 04:09 | < afny> | I put scopes on everything but never count them for a Y |
| 04:09 | < Dukayn> | Yeah but there's the OPTION to :P |
| 04:09 | < afny> | True |
| 04:09 | <@randolph> | The Frilled Lizards use a little dish |
| 04:09 | < MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7197520180/in/photostream |
| 04:09 | <@randolph> | lemme see if I can find one |
| 04:09 | < MittenNinja> | how about that? |
| 04:09 | < Dukayn> | if a spotlight can be a Y, so can a rifle scope IMHO |
| 04:10 | < Dukayn> | thats nice Mittens |
| 04:10 | < afny> | it just depends on the flavor you want. For a badass operator, radio+rifle scope is nice. For a support/artillery mech, a big comms array makes more sense. |
| 04:10 | < MittenNinja> | i pull the dishes off for one |
| 04:10 | < MittenNinja> | and the rest of it for the second |
| 04:10 | < Dukayn> | I love how your photos have one really random part in focus and the rest is like "whatevs" :P |
| 04:10 | < afny> | Not going to lie, I thought it was a 1 man band kit |
| 04:10 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7201315944/in/set-72157629735720288/ |
| 04:10 | < MittenNinja> | ahahahaha |
| 04:11 | < afny> | he even looks like he's got a little harmonica holder |
| 04:11 | < MittenNinja> | yeah i dont have a good lens for the scale |
| 04:11 | < MittenNinja> | its an investment i need to make at some point |
| 04:11 | <@randolph> | Can't you back up and zoom? |
| 04:11 | < afny> | same...whenever I try to get a picture of, say, just a gun barrel in focus, it focuses on EVERYTHING ELSE. |
| 04:11 | < MittenNinja> | to a point |
| 04:11 | <@randolph> | anyway, my link has some dishes on the back line lizards |
| 04:11 | < MittenNinja> | manual focus afny? |
| 04:12 | < Dukayn> | Yeah saw those, thanks randy |
| 04:12 | < Dukayn> | bit big for my Chub though |
| 04:12 | < Dukayn> | I always use manual focus for my photos |
| 04:12 | < afny> | my camera is really bad |
| 04:12 | <@randolph> | These things are pretty small |
| 04:12 | < Dukayn> | that's a 3x3 dish? |
| 04:12 | < afny> | it doesn't have a manual focus as far as I'm aware |
| 04:12 | <@randolph> | yeah |
| 04:12 | <@randolph> | If you nest a 2x2 dish inside, you've got 2Y |
| 04:13 | <@Soren> | yeah, works pretty good. |
| 04:13 | <@randolph> | Slap it on a mount for the chub-pack, done |
| 04:13 | <@Soren> | sorry, trying not to die laughing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZC-WfUHUBSw |
| 04:13 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/dish.png |
| 04:14 | < Dukayn> | Oh, LOL |
| 04:14 | | Noah is now known as NOAH |
| 04:14 | | * NOAH TWITCHES SPASTICLY |
| 04:15 | | NOAH is now known as Noah |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | So yeah that dish, a /little/ large |
| 04:15 | < afny> | for some reason I really don't like the 3x3 |
| 04:15 | <@randolph> | Hm. |
| 04:15 | < afny> | maybe it's the wide rim around the edge, but especially when its concave I think its really ugly |
| 04:15 | < Dukayn> | probably the rim |
| 04:16 | < Dukayn> | 2x2 dishes don't have it |
| 04:16 | < MittenNinja> | yeah inm not a fan either |
| 04:16 | < afny> | even the 4x4 is a pretty thin line |
| 04:17 | <@randolph> | I don't dish-riminate |
| 04:17 | < XGundam05> | -.- |
| 04:17 | < MittenNinja> | is that a chron-cious decision? |
| 04:17 | < Tetrajak> | *snerk* |
| 04:17 | <@randolph> | Dishisively |
| 04:18 | < afny> | now you're just doing a Connery impression |
| 04:18 | <@randolph> | Your mother, Trebek |
| 04:18 | < MittenNinja> | what time does connery go to wimbldon? |
| 04:18 | < MittenNinja> | tennish |
| 04:19 | < Dukayn> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmw03_gadian_b6.png |
| 04:20 | <@randolph> | @ mittens: hee |
| 04:20 | < Tetrajak> | I'm always glad to join this IRC, as it puts a smile on my face. Whether it be from seeing awesome frame designs, or from the chron-ically bad puns |
| 04:20 | < MittenNinja> | glad we can help |
| 04:21 | <~Noah> | It's chrontastic. |
| 04:21 | < Dukayn> | o_O |
| 04:22 | <@randolph> | I want to field some Daleks. |
| 04:23 | < MittenNinja> | EXTERMINATE |
| 04:23 | <@randolph> | ooh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dennyfilms/5710615972/ |
| 04:23 | < MittenNinja> | i loved the episode where they were in germany and all the daleks were speaking german |
| 04:24 | <@randolph> | Did they stick to four syllables? Because that might be hard |
| 04:24 | < MittenNinja> | nope |
| 04:24 | < MittenNinja> | it was exterminaten or something |
| 04:24 | <@randolph> | hehe |
| 04:24 | < MittenNinja> | ki dont speak german |
| 04:24 | < MittenNinja> | -k |
| 04:25 | < Tetrajak> | As an aside; has anyone not seen these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/izzo81/7333974092/in/pool-416357@N21/ |
| 04:26 | <@randolph> | ooh |
| 04:26 | <@randolph> | I hadn't, tahnks |
| 04:26 | <@randolph> | *thanks |
| 04:26 | < MittenNinja> | i did |
| 04:26 | < MittenNinja> | i like that red one |
| 04:26 | < Tetrajak> | me too |
| 04:26 | < XGundam05> | I now have some serious ped-envy >.> |
| 04:26 | <@randolph> | I like the centipede |
| 04:26 | < afny> | I'm partial to the little blue one |
| 04:27 | < Tetrajak> | Admittedly, all of them are quite cool |
| 04:27 | <@randolph> | It has some serious mammal-brain horror potential |
| 04:27 | < MittenNinja> | they are |
| 04:27 | < MittenNinja> | but i think the red one is the only one id actually build for me |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | I like the green one |
| 04:28 | < XGundam05> | The orange one could mount some serious artillery, I like the bulk |
| 04:28 | < afny> | I can't entirely tell what's going on with the green one |
| 04:28 | <@randolph> | I am super envious of his brick collection |
| 04:28 | < afny> | wish there were detail shots for each one of these |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | though I'd probably put a wheel on that front bit |
| 04:28 | < afny> | OH WAIT. |
| 04:28 | < afny> | THERE ARE. |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | ugh, less a fan of green now |
| 04:29 | < Dukayn> | the angle makes it look way cooler :P |
| 04:29 | < afny> | but much MORE of a fan of dark blue... |
| 04:29 | < afny> | I was seeing it backwards |
| 04:30 | <@randolph> | I like the dark blue's head... bulb... thing |
| 04:30 | < XGundam05> | I new I'd seen his name years ago, tried building these frames years ago: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=213590 |
| 04:32 | < Dukayn> | nice |
| 04:33 | < XGundam05> | He has a lot of nice stuff, him and Moko |
| 04:33 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 04:34 | < XGundam05> | I rev-eng'd his SMF2 before I knew there were instructions for it |
| 04:34 | < MittenNinja> | is that dark tan? http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2116069 |
| 04:34 | < MittenNinja> | its smexy |
| 04:34 | < Dukayn> | old grey? |
| 04:35 | < afny> | its old grey |
| 04:35 | < MittenNinja> | really? |
| 04:35 | < Dukayn> | tan would be yellower |
| 04:35 | < MittenNinja> | i need me some of that |
| 04:35 | < afny> | I'm pretty sure it's old grey, the lighting is a little weird |
| 04:35 | | Dukayn is now known as Dukayn[AFK] |
| 04:35 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | bbl |
| 04:36 | < XGundam05> | Moko's SMF2 frame is pretty sweet: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3216165 |
| 04:36 | < XGundam05> | little big for mf0 tho |
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| 04:40 | < Tetrajak> | wow, that is a lot of old grey in one place |
| 04:44 | < afny> | Until this week, I ONL had old grey |
| 04:44 | < MittenNinja> | im jealous |
| 04:44 | < afny> | now when I go to use new parts and accidentally mix in some old grey |
| 04:44 | < afny> | it's like |
| 04:44 | < afny> | BLURG what is that |
| 04:44 | <@randolph> | I like bley more |
| 04:45 | < afny> | Don't be too jealous, I don't have much old grey or old dark grey that's good for mfz scale |
| 04:45 | < MittenNinja> | for most uses yes i agree |
| 04:45 | < afny> | mostly just headlights, 1x1 bricks and 1x1 round bricks |
| 04:45 | < MittenNinja> | but i love the look of old dark grey |
| 04:45 | <@randolph> | hehe |
| 04:45 | < afny> | most of my spaceships are made out of old grey slopes, they're really good for that |
| 04:46 | < MittenNinja> | i dont have good parts for microscale ships really |
| 04:46 | < MittenNinja> | i do but i dont |
| 04:46 | < MittenNinja> | its weird |
| 04:46 | < afny> | it's tough if you have a specific design in mind ahead of time |
| 04:46 | < MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 04:47 | < MittenNinja> | thats usually the problem |
| 04:47 | < afny> | I made it a point not to with my ships |
| 04:47 | < afny> | Just because I was building with tablescraps basically |
| 04:47 | < MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 04:51 | <@randolph> | Who had that awesome swept-wing fighter? |
| 04:51 | | * randolph checks |
| 04:51 | <@randolph> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1447 |
| 04:51 | <@randolph> | I <3 this thing |
| 04:52 | < MittenNinja> | i actually really dig that conscript |
| 04:52 | < MittenNinja> | is it bad that i noticed that first? |
| 04:52 | <@randolph> | Yeah, he's cool too, but I dunno, I only have eyes for the ship |
| 04:52 | <@randolph> | heheh |
| 04:53 | < afny> | I dig it too, the way the shoulder mount is done |
| 04:53 | <@randolph> | You guys, focus >_< |
| 04:56 | < Tetrajak> | "oh, there was a ship in that picture? I thought it was just scenery for the Conscript. That's a really sweet Conscript." |
| 04:56 | < XGundam05> | random, anyone ever make decals that fit on cheese wedges? |
| 04:56 | <@Soren> | I've got the specs |
| 04:56 | < Tetrajak> | I know that people have, because I've seen them. I haven't personally, however |
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| 04:57 | < XGundam05> | I'm looking in to making some for my company, 'cause I don't have the pieces for a unified color scheme |
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| 05:00 | <@randolph> | Don't have unified color = Free Colonies~ |
| 05:01 | <@Soren> | hah |
| 05:01 | <@Soren> | it does seem to work well. |
| 05:01 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/8wivwony28pursd/Thank%20You%2C%20Mistress.jpg I thought everyone in here would want to see this. |
| 05:01 | <@randolph> | XG: Shouldn't you just be able to find printable transparent decal material? |
| 05:01 | <@randolph> | That's uh. That's um... an objective, right? |
| 05:02 | <@Soren> | it sure could be. |
| 05:02 | < XGundam05> | >.> |
| 05:02 | <@Soren> | But it's really just the first thing that came to mind when I got my masonry bricks. |
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| 05:03 | <@Soren> | a sausage so dubious, it kicked Greg off the internet |
| 05:03 | <@randolph> | "Alright, maggots, we've got 6 minutes to get there before the show's over!" |
| 05:03 | < XGundam05> | In 7p scale that hits bdsm and gigantism all in one shot >.> |
| 05:04 | <@Soren> | See, I don't want to win the game, I just want to make my opponents safeword. |
| 05:10 | <~Noah> | Holyballs http://www.flickr.com/photos/t0varis4/7226852180/in/pool-416357@N21/ |
| 05:16 | < afny> | Hey, Joshua posted a ton of Ijad names |
| 05:17 | < afny> | It's...still really confusing, because it only lists parasite names! |
| 05:18 | <@randolph> | The host still has its name |
| 05:18 | <@randolph> | Are you wanting to know what names they give ghanat or something? |
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| 05:19 | <@randolph> | o/ |
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| 05:20 | < MoF0-6340> | Hello? |
| 05:20 | <@randolph> | Hiya |
| 05:20 | < XGundam05> | 'lo |
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| 05:21 | < Mantisking> | Ah, that's better. |
| 05:21 | <@randolph> | Couldn't type through the webapp either? |
| 05:21 | <@randolph> | Axhead had that problem |
| 05:22 | < Mantisking> | Something like that. |
| 05:23 | < Mantisking> | I really should go to bed though. |
| 05:23 | < XGundam05> | sleep *is* generally a good thing to get >.> |
| 05:24 | < Mantisking> | I have to wait for the laundry to finish though. |
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| 05:25 | < Mantisking> | Oh, in case anyone is wondering, I deleted all those creepy pictures Chron posted on the Hangar. |
| 05:26 | <~Noah> | Oh hay, it's Mantisking |
| 05:26 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | I thought Ced did that already when he edited his post |
| 05:26 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | also, hi |
| 05:26 | | Dukayn[AFK] is now known as Dukayn |
| 05:26 | <~Noah> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dorpheos_lego/7083260617/in/pool-416357@N21/ Also <3<3<3 |
| 05:26 | <~Noah> | Love Cowboy Bebop |
| 05:26 | < Mantisking> | He edited them into ALL his posts. |
| 05:27 | < Mantisking> | Hey, Noah. |
| 05:27 | < Dukayn> | oh |
| 05:27 | < Dukayn> | wow |
| 05:28 | < Mantisking> | I ended up deleting five of his posts outright. |
| 05:28 | < XGundam05> | gotta love people with 0 concept of reality |
| 05:28 | < Mantisking> | Not really. He pissed me off. |
| 05:28 | < Dukayn> | You're not alone |
| 05:28 | | * XGundam05 Looks around for the 'transfer sarcasm through text' button |
| 05:29 | <~Noah> | We've been having fun making puns about him |
| 05:29 | <~Noah> | XGundam05: <sarcasm> That'd be the sarcasm tag </sarcasm> |
| 05:29 | < XGundam05> | I knew a guy irl like him, didn't last long in the field for which he went to college for, now works at Wal-mart I believe |
| 05:29 | < Mantisking> | Sorry, XG. I'm tired and kung fu class was rough tonight. |
| 05:29 | < XGundam05> | np |
| 05:29 | <~Noah> | Mantisking: You know Kung-Fu? |
| 05:30 | < Mantisking> | Yeah. |
| 05:30 | < Mantisking> | Been studying for about a decade. |
| 05:30 | < Dukayn> | Woah |
| 05:30 | < Axhead> | Howdy folks. |
| 05:30 | < XGundam05> | Noah: and now Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure is stuck in my head >.< |
| 05:30 | < Dukayn> | Sorry, had to do a Matrix reference :P |
| 05:30 | <~Noah> | I was thinking the Matrix |
| 05:30 | <@randolph> | Nice, what school, MK? |
| 05:30 | < XGundam05> | heya axhead |
| 05:30 | < Axhead> | What style do you practice Mantisking |
| 05:30 | <@randolph> | Shaolin? |
| 05:31 | < Mantisking> | To actually talk about something fun, I got the Lego Hoth game today. |
| 05:31 | <~Noah> | And now I have Shaolin Soccer in my head |
| 05:31 | < Mantisking> | I'm a Wah Lum Pai student. |
| 05:31 | < XGundam05> | Noah: knew it was Matrix, but can't see anything w/ Reeves and not think of that movie |
| 05:32 | <@randolph> | Interesting, is that where you get "Mantis?" |
| 05:32 | < Mantisking> | Yup. |
| 05:32 | <@randolph> | cool |
| 05:32 | < Mantisking> | It actually comes from the first time I tried logging on to the internet. |
| 05:32 | < XGundam05> | As to the Lego Hoth game, the Tauntauns are pretty sweet looking for that scale |
| 05:33 | <@randolph> | I've been out of practice for... geez. A long time. |
| 05:33 | < Mantisking> | It's all parts to me. :D |
| 05:33 | <@randolph> | hee |
| 05:33 | < Axhead> | Anybody catch the Hatfields & McCoys? |
| 05:34 | <@randolph> | There's a LEGO set for that? |
| 05:34 | < Axhead> | There should be |
| 05:34 | < Mantisking> | I had it on my DVR, but deleted it when space got a little tight. |
| 05:34 | <@randolph> | #pegnecks |
| 05:34 | < Axhead> | Its a mini series on History channel |
| 05:35 | < Axhead> | Its awash in pegneckery |
| 05:35 | <@randolph> | That sounds so dirty. |
| 05:36 | < Axhead> | You make that sound like a bad thing |
| 05:36 | <@randolph> | Do I? |
| 05:36 | <@randolph> | Do I? |
| 05:36 | < DarkwingDon> | hello everyone... this is DarkwingDon from MF0 Hangar... just thought I would stop by and say hi to everyone |
| 05:36 | <@randolph> | Hey there DD |
| 05:36 | < XGundam05> | hey |
| 05:36 | < Axhead> | Hi DD |
| 05:37 | < Mantisking> | Hey. |
| 05:37 | < XGundam05> | and pegneckery makes me think of a trackeotomy >.> |
| 05:37 | < XGundam05> | *tracheotomy |
| 05:37 | <@randolph> | Oh, a tracheotomy is only the beginning |
| 05:37 | < XGundam05> | I figured -.- |
| 05:38 | <@Soren> | Yeah we're pretty much like this all the time. |
| 05:38 | <@Soren> | Except often with more penis. |
| 05:38 | <@randolph> | #technicpins |
| 05:38 | < Mantisking> | So, how many of you have had the chance to put Lego to table and play MFZ? |
| 05:39 | < XGundam05> | 'course, I heard one of my wife's friends tell her husband she'd "peg 'im", in reference to hitting, but that's not where my mind went <.< |
| 05:39 | <@randolph> | .... yeah. |
| 05:39 | < XGundam05> | Mantis, not really yet, not with other folks /sad |
| 05:40 | < Axhead> | @MK so far I have only run a few solo games |
| 05:40 | < Tetrajak> | bbl peeps |
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| 05:40 | <@randolph> | later 4J |
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| 05:41 | < Axhead> | I only really got enough stuff play full games a couple of weeks ago. |
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| 05:41 | < Mantisking> | I'm hoping to get the chance to teach a couple of friends how to playsoon. |
| 05:42 | < Axhead> | My local Bricklink guy invited me to join the adult enthusiasts, there should be plenty of convert potential there. |
| 05:42 | < XGundam05> | I've got one buddy interested, but he's in Columbus, and has designated his funds to TL2 and ESO -.- |
| 05:42 | < Axhead> | I passed along links to the hanger |
| 05:43 | < MittenNinja> | izOkklawesome |
| 05:43 | < MittenNinja> | lol |
| 05:43 | < MittenNinja> | wtf |
| 05:44 | < MittenNinja> | all i typed was "awesome" |
| 05:44 | < MittenNinja> | anywho |
| 05:44 | < MittenNinja> | ive got some potential converts checking things out at the comiccon out here next weekend |
| 05:44 | <~Noah> | I think it'd be bed time for this person |
| 05:44 | <~Noah> | g'night all |
| 05:44 | < MittenNinja> | night |
| 05:44 | < Mantisking> | Night. |
| 05:45 | < XGundam05> | night |
| 05:45 | < DarkwingDon> | night |
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| 05:47 | < DarkwingDon> | so has anyone ordered from BrickLink since the hack? |
| 05:47 | < Mantisking> | I hven't ordered from them in a while. |
| 05:48 | < MittenNinja> | i have not |
| 05:48 | < MittenNinja> | ceddo put an order in earlier today though |
| 05:49 | < Axhead> | Me neither, I topped up just before hand |
| 05:49 | <@randolph> | Hey MCM |
| 05:49 | <@randolph> | These guys are talking about playing in person... will you be bringing your companies? |
| 05:49 | < DarkwingDon> | ive got 2 orders on the way that were shipped just before it happened... i gots lots more i want to order but ive been waiting for the dust to settle |
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| 05:51 | < Axhead> | Are any of you guys working on terrain these days? |
| 05:51 | < MittenNinja> | i havent been |
| 05:51 | < MittenNinja> | ive got some pretty basic walls to use out at con and thats about it |
| 05:51 | <@Soren> | trying not to build anything big before the move. |
| 05:51 | < Mantisking> | Not recently. The most I've done recently is mod a Takafashii frame I had built. |
| 05:52 | < Axhead> | My stuff is all pretty rudimentary but I have done some hills, water features and woods. Wargaming building blocks |
| 05:52 | <@randolph> | I haven't built anything in... feels like forever. I definitely want to return to terrain at some point |
| 05:53 | < Axhead> | I've got enough frames now, so now I want to get some cool weapons and snazzy terrain |
| 05:54 | < Axhead> | Lt Col Thorins stuff is pretty choice |
| 05:54 | < Mantisking> | I'd like to get back to a few ideas I had for MFZ scale buildings. |
| 05:54 | < XGundam05> | I had a thought for minimizing bricks used in terrain, but it makes a large bulk of it indestructible -.- |
| 05:54 | < Axhead> | Do tell... |
| 05:55 | < XGundam05> | basically build the core out of foam (like the cheap insulating stuff) and then make the outer shell w/ bricks |
| 05:55 | < XGundam05> | would be okay for hills and the like I suppose |
| 05:55 | <@randolph> | I like the tile-over-stud thing to allow frames to actually stand... but that's a fortune in tiles |
| 05:55 | < Axhead> | Hills yes buildings no for the foam core |
| 05:56 | < XGundam05> | yeah |
| 05:56 | <@randolph> | I guess I should just go back to the PAB wall and buy a ton of 1x2, 2x2, and 2x4 bricks |
| 05:56 | < XGundam05> | I've got bits for buildings, but the idea came from my lack of bricks to make nice hills and such |
| 05:56 | <@randolph> | hm. I wonder if that's cost-effective |
| 05:56 | < XGundam05> | probably not as good as it could be |
| 05:57 | < DarkwingDon> | ive got a few more 16x16 baseplate buidlings almost done in ldraw atm, just trying to find the time to finish them |
| 05:57 | < Axhead> | My hills are just hollow with the sides of 1x2 & 1x4s |
| 05:57 | < XGundam05> | with the small bits, I average ~$0.01 per brick in a small cup |
| 05:57 | < Axhead> | Now that is affordable |
| 05:57 | < XGundam05> | I pack 'em full ^--^ |
| 05:58 | < Axhead> | I would super appreciate parts lists for any buildings. |
| 05:58 | < XGundam05> | got ~100 or so lamp holders in black this last trip |
| 05:58 | < Axhead> | Awesome, mine are all blue or white :( |
| 05:59 | < Axhead> | Plus the nearest lego store is 2.5 hours south :(:( |
| 06:00 | < XGundam05> | yeah, nearest is ~an hour, but we were travelling to a wedding in northern Indiana, so I was able to stop at the one in Indy on the way back |
| 06:01 | < Axhead> | Nice, I swung by the one in Calgary when I was there on a conference but my budget only allowed for frame related purchases |
| 06:01 | < Axhead> | and they hand nothing like that on the wall |
| 06:02 | < XGundam05> | they almost never do, at least from my 2 recent trips (I've made a grand total of 4 in my lifetime) |
| 06:02 | < XGundam05> | (and 2 were before I knew about Mechaton even) |
| 06:03 | < Axhead> | At this point I would be happy to mass buy normal bricks to use for terrain. |
| 06:03 | < Axhead> | I pulled a 42" table top out of a dumpster and am using it for MFZ now |
| 06:03 | < XGundam05> | I'd use bricklink, but I grew up w/o internet, and in the middle of nowhere, so my trust for people I dun know on the interwebs is low |
| 06:04 | < Mantisking> | Cool. |
| 06:04 | < XGundam05> | nice |
| 06:04 | < Axhead> | a little scrubbing and some spraypaint and its all good. |
| 06:04 | < Axhead> | I picked up while on the job too :D |
| 06:04 | < Mantisking> | My coffee table is 36" square so I'm hoping to use it for a game sometime. |
| 06:05 | < Mantisking> | Hopefully the cats won't be too curious and stomp all over the battlefield. |
| 06:05 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/loqka9o4obf4sv0/I-ST-04EH%20Super%20Strider%20Artiller y%20Type.JPG updated, mit boom. |
| 06:05 | < XGundam05> | if I can get my brother interested, my folks have a lego table my dad built when I was young (4.5' sq, 2.5' tall, 5 drawers to a side) |
| 06:05 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqjt0m3vm1vsxqi/Moon%20Fang%20Tribe.jpg updated with holy shit more robots |
| 06:06 | < Axhead> | Holy shit thats allota robots! |
| 06:06 | <@Soren> | just the maximum 7! |
| 06:06 | <@Soren> | they're just quite substantial robots. |
| 06:06 | < XGundam05> | the same thing that happens to a 5 yr old firing a twelve gage comes to mind for that first one Soren >.> |
| 06:06 | <@Soren> | yep! |
| 06:06 | < Axhead> | I say they need 5 bricks for cover... |
| 06:07 | < MittenNinja> | wow |
| 06:07 | < MittenNinja> | nice soren |
| 06:07 | <@Soren> | but we're ignoring reality often enough that it's doesn't faze me. |
| 06:07 | < MittenNinja> | i love those bipedal guys in the mix |
| 06:07 | <@Soren> | -'s |
| 06:07 | <@Soren> | thanks. |
| 06:07 | < Axhead> | Reali-what? |
| 06:07 | < Mantisking> | Holy shit. |
| 06:07 | < XGundam05> | is true, the rule-of-cool is the golden one here :) |
| 06:08 | <@randolph> | It's not just a rule... It's The Law |
| 06:08 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qm39thh2ksj0pi/I-ST-05B%20Slammer%20Solidblade.JPG |
| 06:08 | < Axhead> | I like the pink accents, they make them stand out but its not overpowering. |
| 06:08 | <@Soren> | I'm really pleased with the pink, yeah |
| 06:09 | <@Soren> | it just matches up with the new gray so nicely. |
| 06:09 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ov1it53f92sk2dj/I-ST-04E%20Super%20Strider.JPG here's the base model |
| 06:09 | < Mantisking> | Soren, okay if I downlaod those pictures and post them on my blog? |
| 06:10 | <@Soren> | I assume that if they're posted, people do that, although I'm thinking maybe hold off until I get the group shot up on Flickr. |
| 06:10 | < Axhead> | I gotta scoot, tomorrow is an early morning for me. |
| 06:10 | <@Soren> | sleep well! |
| 06:10 | < Mantisking> | Later, Ax. |
| 06:10 | < XGundam05> | night |
| 06:10 | < Axhead> | Chow. |
| 06:11 | < MittenNinja> | night dude |
| 06:11 | < Mantisking> | Soren, I figure I'd do the right thing and ask your permission before I spam them all over the web. |
| 06:11 | <@Soren> | Yeah, I just want it to be clear whence they came |
| 06:12 | <@Soren> | give me ten or so, I'll have them up. |
| 06:13 | < Mantisking> | I put links to source material in all my posts. |
| 06:13 | <@Soren> | Yeah, i just prefer that they lead back to FLickr. |
| 06:14 | < XGundam05> | well, now that I have a rudimentary lightbox finished, I need to get to sleep, 'night all |
| 06:14 | <@Soren> | Also semi-literate dickheads on the interbutts will just assume that the poster is the owner because they can't read |
| 06:14 | < Mantisking> | Understandable. |
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| 06:17 | < Mantisking> | Soren, how big is that mecha in the "Suddenly, Bits!" photo? |
| 06:17 | <@Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/ first link |
| 06:18 | <@Soren> | pretty substantial. |
| 06:18 | <@Soren> | about half again chub-height. |
| 06:20 | < Mantisking> | Okay. |
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| 06:21 | < Mantisking> | The pictures are all downloaded, the framework of the blog post is saved, and the link to the source material is embedded. |
| 06:21 | <@Soren> | closer to twice. |
| 06:21 | < Mantisking> | He's a big boy. |
| 06:22 | <@Soren> | Oh, I'm putting the individual frames up too. |
| 06:22 | <@Soren> | and she's pretty fearsome, yeah |
| 06:22 | < Mantisking> | Okay. There's no way I'm getting the whole post done this evening. I'll probably finish it in the morning. |
| 06:23 | < Mantisking> | {* looks at clock *} Christ, it's late. |
| 06:23 | <@Soren> | it is |
| 06:23 | <@randolph> | Which one is "suddenly, bits" |
| 06:25 | < Ced|Bed> | Suddenly, Germans. |
| 06:25 | | Ced|Bed is now known as Ced |
| 06:25 | <@randolph> | AIEEEE |
| 06:25 | < Ced> | NO ONE EXPECTS THE GERMAN BLITZKRIEG. |
| 06:27 | < Ced> | *rubs eyes* Morning lads. |
| 06:27 | < DarkwingDon> | morning |
| 06:27 | <@McMartin> | Transit of Venus soon-ish (by which I mean, within the next 24 hours) |
| 06:27 | <@Soren> | ^ for excellent robots |
| 06:30 | < Ced> | Oh, boy. |
| 06:30 | | * Ced sighs a little. |
| 06:30 | < Ced> | Schoon updated the PbP. But it's a bit dodgy. :D |
| 06:30 | < Ced> | Oh well. Between schoon missing details and Trilly not knowing what time of the year it is, that's actually a halfway decent progression. |
| 06:31 | < Mantisking> | The laundy's in the drier and dinner's been put away. That's it for me boys. |
| 06:31 | <@Soren> | g'night Ray |
| 06:31 | < Ced> | Night Ray! |
| 06:32 | < Mantisking> | Night all you MoF0s. :D |
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| 06:36 | < Ced> | Soren: Super Arty Strider? Show me. |
| 06:37 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/loqka9o4obf4sv0/I-ST-04EH%20Super%20Strider%20Artiller y%20Type.JPG |
| 06:37 | < Ced> | That gun on the right looks awfully familiar. :D |
| 06:37 | <@Soren> | doesn't it just :D |
| 06:38 | < Ced> | But yeah. That's a cool puppy. |
| 06:38 | < Ced> | Lovin the massive parabol antenna. |
| 06:38 | < Ced> | Also: Hex launchers. <3 |
| 06:38 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 06:38 | <@Soren> | I was tempted to go with four of them |
| 06:38 | < Ced> | And the little dome is perfect. |
| 06:39 | < Ced> | 1x1 round brick with stud cover looks so good for all kinds of ECMs, radar domes, etc. |
| 06:39 | <@Soren> | indeed it does |
| 06:39 | < Ced> | Alrightey. Time to get moving and hit the remote location, grab beamer/laptop, and then head back to HQ. |
| 06:39 | < Ced> | As in, take my sweet ass time traveling the city. |
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| 06:43 | < Ced> | Later, be back in ... an hour, ish. |
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| 06:46 | < MittenNinja> | i'm gonna go call it a night as well |
| 06:46 | < MittenNinja> | later fellas |
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| 07:16 | < Tetrajak> | crickets? |
| 07:16 | <@randolph> | hey |
| 07:16 | <@Soren> | hoi hoi |
| 07:16 | <@Soren> | I'm here, just tweakin' |
| 07:16 | <@Soren> | robots don't get awesome in a day. |
| 07:17 | < Tetrajak> | Ah, so there are still some people online |
| 07:17 | <@Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/ quite |
| 07:17 | <@randolph> | Yeah, just writing |
| 07:17 | < Tetrajak> | Yea, I saw it before coming on here XD |
| 07:18 | <@Soren> | just making sure. I can never remember who's seen what. |
| 07:18 | < Tetrajak> | I'm liking the hunched over frame at the front. It's got a really nice over-all feel of being heavy and being able to throw it's weight around |
| 07:18 | < Tetrajak> | all good |
| 07:18 | <@randolph> | Hey Soren, that bunny one is great |
| 07:18 | <@randolph> | It needs a jackalope XD |
| 07:18 | <@Soren> | hee. |
| 07:18 | <@Soren> | a giant jackalope robot. |
| 07:19 | <@randolph> | Jackalobot? |
| 07:19 | < afny> | Wow, they look great all together. |
| 07:19 | <@Soren> | Tetrajak: yeah, the Slammer is turning into one of my favorites too. |
| 07:19 | <@Soren> | I actually replaced the guy in back with a second one just now. |
| 07:19 | < afny> | Do you have a name for the one in the back left? |
| 07:19 | <@Soren> | I should update. |
| 07:19 | <@Soren> | eh, he was a stopgap. Much better this way |
| 07:19 | < afny> | Aw, you replaced him with a Slammer? |
| 07:19 | <@randolph> | what mount is inside the slammer? |
| 07:19 | < afny> | I liked him |
| 07:20 | <@Soren> | I've got a bunch more of him. |
| 07:20 | <@Soren> | just white+dark blue |
| 07:20 | <@randolph> | Is it a human? Or some other apelike creature? |
| 07:20 | < afny> | For this company, yeah, two Slammers is better |
| 07:20 | <@Soren> | probably a human, but a chimp would be funny |
| 07:20 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 07:20 | < afny> | it's a pretty balls out group |
| 07:21 | <@Soren> | I tried to make them total badasses. |
| 07:21 | <@Soren> | I think I did okay. |
| 07:21 | <@randolph> | Throw off the shackles of hominid tyranny, my troglodyte brethren! |
| 07:21 | < afny> | even the little thinktank has some missiles or whatever |
| 07:22 | <@Soren> | I'm sure there are sects of Ijad that refuse to ride humans, but ride something like bonobos instead. |
| 07:22 | <@randolph> | Oh, I've heard that bonobos like being ridden. |
| 07:22 | < afny> | HAHA. |
| 07:22 | < afny> | Primate sex. |
| 07:22 | <@Soren> | they sure do! |
| 07:22 | < afny> | Did you see my other MgN, Soren? |
| 07:22 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7335423564/in/pool-438009@N25/lightbox/ |
| 07:22 | <@Soren> | I did not! |
| 07:22 | < afny> | I'm working on two more now, I can't stop with these guys |
| 07:23 | <@Soren> | I did play with your rifle design, though |
| 07:23 | < Tetrajak> | OK, opinions; should I make more medabot frames, or something else? |
| 07:23 | < afny> | half of it was yours to begin with |
| 07:23 | < afny> | the magazine and the stock at least |
| 07:23 | < Tetrajak> | OR |
| 07:23 | < Tetrajak> | should I make heavy gear frames? |
| 07:24 | <@Soren> | Well, the Fat Snake is effectively a Heavy Gear design, so it would be easier... |
| 07:24 | < afny> | I really need better lights...the best part of that blue frame is the 1x1 with tooth plate in the torso armor, but you can't even see it |
| 07:24 | <@Soren> | I can see it, but just barely |
| 07:25 | < Tetrajak> | eh, easy is for when sleepy |
| 07:25 | < afny> | I don't think medabots have many cool designs |
| 07:25 | < afny> | the one aesthetic I like from medabots is REALLY BIG HANDS FOR NO REASON |
| 07:25 | < afny> | but TINY fingers. |
| 07:26 | < Tetrajak> | lololol |
| 07:26 | <@Soren> | I've seen some stuff from what's his name, the Advance of Zeta guy. |
| 07:26 | <@Soren> | Kenki Fujioka? |
| 07:26 | <@Soren> | that I thought was pretty ballin' |
| 07:28 | < afny> | I guess it's a spinoff |
| 07:28 | < afny> | I've never heard of it |
| 07:28 | < Tetrajak> | Admittedly, I'm not a huge fan of gundam, or obvious variants thereof |
| 07:28 | < afny> | You like medabots but you don't like Gundam? |
| 07:28 | < afny> | At least that's a new angle. |
| 07:29 | < Tetrajak> | I liked medabots as a kid, sure |
| 07:29 | < Tetrajak> | the nostalgia is the only reason I designed the metabee frame |
| 07:29 | < afny> | I'm trying to find a picture of the bot i'm thinking of |
| 07:29 | < afny> | with the big hands |
| 07:30 | < Tetrajak> | afny: are we talking shields-for-hands, claws, or generally large hands? |
| 07:30 | <@Soren> | Advance of Zeta has gorgeous, experimental mecha design. |
| 07:30 | < afny> | like if you taped giant jellybeans to your hands |
| 07:31 | < afny> | but your hands were still their normal size |
| 07:31 | <@Soren> | it's really beautiful stuff. |
| 07:31 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: got a good image source that I can take a look at? all I'm finding is gundam variants |
| 07:32 | <@Soren> | that's what it is. |
| 07:32 | < afny> | it's a manga |
| 07:32 | < Tetrajak> | ah, never mind then |
| 07:32 | < afny> | its relation to medabots is the mecha designer for it did some stuff for a medabots manga |
| 07:33 | <@Soren> | ah, that's where I saw that stuff from! |
| 07:33 | < afny> | my relation to grammar is vague. |
| 07:33 | < Tetrajak> | Now, if I were to refer to mecha designs that I like, rather than simply dismissing gundam, I'd point you in the direction of FlyingDebris |
| 07:33 | <@Soren> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/primrose.htm <3 |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/rms-106c.htm |
| 07:35 | < afny> | wow that hizack |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 07:35 | < afny> | the chest |
| 07:35 | < Tetrajak> | Yea, admittedly, I'm just not a fan of gundam style mecha |
| 07:35 | < afny> | so prettay |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | That's okay. You'll learn ;) |
| 07:35 | < afny> | really nails the feel of the Zeta animation, too |
| 07:35 | < Tetrajak> | pfft |
| 07:36 | < afny> | really saturated colors |
| 07:36 | <@Soren> | his Barzam is infuckingcredible |
| 07:36 | <@Soren> | he actually makes it look good! |
| 07:36 | <@Soren> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/rms-154.jpg |
| 07:36 | < afny> | the head is much impproved |
| 07:36 | < afny> | yeah I found it on that other site |
| 07:37 | <@Soren> | oh, Ryan's site? |
| 07:37 | < afny> | it doesn't just look dumb |
| 07:37 | < Tetrajak> | Now, in contrast, I find that really ugly. |
| 07:37 | < Tetrajak> | but that is just difference in preference for mecha |
| 07:37 | < afny> | compare it to the original: http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/rms-154.jpg |
| 07:37 | < afny> | it's a rework of a previous design |
| 07:38 | <@Soren> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/rx-124-woundwort.htm om nom nom |
| 07:38 | < afny> | Okay, I might have to find this manga. Is it translated? |
| 07:38 | <@Soren> | I... don't know. |
| 07:38 | <@Soren> | I don;t think so. |
| 07:38 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: now that is far removed enough from the general gundam designs to be different. I'm liking the legs and torso |
| 07:38 | < afny> | Hrg. |
| 07:39 | < Tetrajak> | afny: sure, the original is ugly, but I don't like the reworking any more than it |
| 07:39 | < afny> | oh god his galbaldy |
| 07:39 | < afny> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/rms-117-hm.htm |
| 07:40 | <@Soren> | Yeah, I think I based mine on that version. Very squared-off. |
| 07:41 | < afny> | and a rick dias with a giant transformable booster |
| 07:41 | < afny> | wtf |
| 07:42 | <@Soren> | the Stutzer variants are a little weak. |
| 07:43 | < afny> | Is this a render? |
| 07:43 | < afny> | or is it drawn |
| 07:43 | < afny> | I can't tell |
| 07:43 | <@Soren> | drawn with very good photoshop, I would guess. |
| 07:44 | < afny> | I sort of like the Stutzer Rick Dom |
| 07:44 | < afny> | It so doesn't work, but then again it does |
| 07:44 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 07:44 | <@Soren> | I do like those missile pods. |
| 07:45 | < afny> | it's a little weird to see graffiti on a mobile suit, I admit |
| 07:45 | < afny> | or non-stenciled writing at all |
| 07:45 | <@Soren> | it doesn't really work. |
| 07:46 | < afny> | If you took it to a ridiculous extent it'd be awesome |
| 07:46 | < afny> | like gundam meets jet set radio or something |
| 07:46 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 07:47 | < afny> | @Tetrajak, some of these things in that FlyingDebris circle are cool, but more often than not, for me at least, that kind of mech design just isn't memorable. |
| 07:47 | < afny> | Every battletech style design except for three or four really iconic ones just blends together into a big angular greebly ball of death |
| 07:47 | < Tetrajak> | afny: fair do, everyone has the stuff they prefer |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | see, I like FlyingDebris' stuff, but most of the stuff in that style comes off like this: |
| 07:48 | < Tetrajak> | Oh, I'm not a fan of battletech |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | IT'S A BOX |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | WITH GUNS |
| 07:48 | < afny> | yeah |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | ON TOP |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | OF ANOTHER BUNCH OF BOXES |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | CAN YOU FUCKING HANDLE ME ART DIRECTOR? CAN YOU? |
| 07:48 | < Tetrajak> | Yea, the battletech designs look like they've been put together without much thought |
| 07:49 | <@Soren> | and sometimes HOLY SHIT THERE'S A CYLINDER |
| 07:49 | <@Soren> | WE'RE OFF THE HOOK HERE |
| 07:49 | < Tetrajak> | but FlyingDebris, on the other hand, comes up with some very awesome designs along the lines of real robot stuff |
| 07:49 | <@Soren> | totally. |
| 07:49 | <@Soren> | his stuff has personality. |
| 07:49 | < afny> | There are other artists and designers that sometimes go that route and make great stuff |
| 07:50 | < afny> | Kojima's mechs are usually like that |
| 07:50 | < afny> | and they have loads of character |
| 07:50 | < afny> | but I think that style CAN be a trap |
| 07:50 | <@Soren> | the thing about it isn't that it's bad, it's that when it goes wrong, it's very 13-year-old-trying-to-be-tough |
| 07:50 | < Tetrajak> | yup |
| 07:50 | < afny> | At least when Gundam goes bad |
| 07:50 | <@Soren> | it's HILARIOUS |
| 07:50 | < afny> | you get Mobile Fighter G Gundam |
| 07:50 | <@Soren> | or ZZ. |
| 07:51 | < afny> | Really though, Gundam has such a wide aesthetic |
| 07:51 | < afny> | I mean I think a lot of early zeon mobile suits sort of have that look |
| 07:51 | <@Soren> | it's frequently just as stupid but it's easier to forgive it because it's trying to be a lot less serious in the first place |
| 07:52 | < afny> | Not that look exactly, but an extremely utilitarian look with just bits of character. Mostly the aquatic ones. |
| 07:52 | <@Soren> | absolutely. I think you can tell which ones they wanted to be memorable and which ones were throwaways they didn;t care about. |
| 07:52 | < Tetrajak> | My favourite mech style is somewhere between FlyingDebris, Tiberium Sun, and not-quite-humanoid-but-still-bipedal mecha |
| 07:52 | <@Soren> | Well, we've got options for you! |
| 07:53 | < Tetrajak> | The best example I can give is the Enforcer frame that I came up with; http://www.flickr.com/photos/tetrajak/7214482850/in/photostream |
| 07:53 | <@Soren> | the three-different-body-plans thing was Joshua's idea and executing it was a lot of fun. |
| 07:53 | < afny> | What's the third body plan |
| 07:53 | < afny> | reverse knee? |
| 07:53 | <@Soren> | humanoid, reverse knee and quadruped |
| 07:53 | < afny> | ah okay |
| 07:54 | <@Soren> | Tetrajak: check out Junji Ohkubo |
| 07:54 | <@Soren> | For the Barrel and Steel Battalion |
| 07:54 | < Tetrajak> | Yes, now that's what I'm talking about |
| 07:54 | < afny> | I've only seen one or two images from For the Barrel but it looks awesome |
| 07:55 | < afny> | I saw it a long time ago and then definitely thought I was just stoned and made it up |
| 07:55 | < afny> | because the concept is so ridiculous |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | there's a whole bunch on MAHQ and the gundam wiki. |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | it's really gorgeous. |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | Elegant. |
| 07:55 | < afny> | that's GOTTA be translated, I'm going to go look fo rit |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | I doubt it. |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | nobody translates the interesting Gunda, |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | +m |
| 07:55 | < afny> | Damn fandom! |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/For_the_Barrel |
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| 07:56 | <@Soren> | I have a copy of his artbook, Industrial Divinities. |
| 07:56 | < Ced|Bed> | I have sweaty armpits. |
| 07:56 | <@Soren> | totally worth the money. |
| 07:56 | | Ced|Bed is now known as Ceddo |
| 07:56 | < Ceddo> | Totally not worth the taste, though. |
| 07:56 | <@Soren> | Well, you're gonna have to find someone else to lick them. |
| 07:57 | < Ceddo> | That's what I figured. |
| 07:57 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: some of those designs in that wiki are very silly |
| 07:57 | <@Soren> | and some of them are fuckawesome. |
| 07:58 | < Tetrajak> | Any in particular you like the most? |
| 07:58 | < afny> | hahahah oh man |
| 07:58 | < afny> | I just found a picture of Char |
| 07:58 | <@Soren> | the Blondie and Dietrich DOM are great redesigns |
| 07:58 | < afny> | he's got a fucking TOP HAT |
| 07:58 | <@Soren> | yeah |
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| 07:59 | < afny> | the guncannon looks pretty sweet |
| 07:59 | < CalaveraJoe> | Alo |
| 07:59 | < afny> | at least I assume that's what that is |
| 07:59 | < afny> | I'm not sold on the Zeong redesign though...doesn't look different enough |
| 07:59 | < CalaveraJoe> | Mew? |
| 08:00 | < Ceddo> | Heya CJ. |
| 08:00 | < Ceddo> | Heya TJ. |
| 08:00 | < afny> | oh, the Gelgoog is nice |
| 08:00 | < Ceddo> | Heya pretzel with chives and butter. |
| 08:00 | < Tetrajak> | Heya Ceddo |
| 08:01 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: Yeah, I'm not a fan of them. |
| 08:01 | < CalaveraJoe> | Heya Ced |
| 08:02 | <@Soren> | Tetrajak: do you also hate FUN? |
| 08:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | Random: Anyone done up any ijad stations yet? |
| 08:02 | < Tetrajak> | Hahaha |
| 08:03 | < Tetrajak> | Hey, I just have different taste to you |
| 08:03 | <@Soren> | nah, I'm kidding. I give not a single fuck. |
| 08:03 | <@Soren> | But I like being comically beliigerent. |
| 08:03 | <@Soren> | -i +l |
| 08:03 | < Tetrajak> | It's all good, I know you do |
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| 08:06 | < afny> | Really, I think a lot of the beauty of Gundam comes from the animation |
| 08:06 | < afny> | If I had never see the designs animated, I probaby wouldn't like them. |
| 08:06 | < afny> | that's another problem I have with the boxy gritty aesthetic |
| 08:07 | < afny> | half of those mechs would be SO BORING to watch in motion |
| 08:07 | < Tetrajak> | Oh, I've seen bits of gundam animation. I've even watched an episode or two. It has to be some of the more boring anime I've ever watched. |
| 08:07 | < Tetrajak> | but I should stop there |
| 08:07 | < Tetrajak> | because I'll offend people's tastes |
| 08:07 | < afny> | NOPE. WE MUST DIG DEEPER. |
| 08:07 | < afny> | Impossible. |
| 08:07 | < afny> | IMPOSSIBLE. |
| 08:07 | < Tetrajak> | don't get me started, afny |
| 08:08 | < afny> | We just want to help. When you say "I watched one or two episodes of Gundam and it was the most boring thing ever" |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | I had this argument with Joshua. |
| 08:08 | < afny> | I MIGHT AGREE WITH YOU. Because Gundam? It's a HUGE franchise. HUGE. |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | it turned out he just hadn;t seen any of the good stuff. |
| 08:08 | < afny> | There are plenty of bad spinoffs. |
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| 08:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Here's the thing, I think a LOT of Anime fails if you only watch a couple of episodes |
| 08:08 | < afny> | Also true. |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | So I don't have this argument unless you've actually seen a bunch of shit and you have names. |
| 08:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hell, I wanted to punch my teeth in after the first couple episodes of Claymore |
| 08:08 | < afny> | Yeah, like do you at least know the name of the show you watched? |
| 08:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | But I was glad I slogged through to the end, it was an interesting bit |
| 08:09 | <@Soren> | and let's face it, a lot of stuff is only good if you see it at the right age, otherwise you never, ever give a fuck. |
| 08:09 | < Tetrajak> | CJ; yes, a lot of anime can fall flat if you haven't seen the parts that are the best parts, or that connect it all together. I agree with that. |
| 08:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | Its not even a matter of the best parts |
| 08:09 | < afny> | It's true for any sci-fi or anything high-concept |
| 08:09 | < Tetrajak> | However, what I've seen of Gundam, has been really, REALLY, bad anime |
| 08:09 | < afny> | but what Gundam was it |
| 08:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | Anime has the same shortcoming most episodic programming does |
| 08:09 | <@Soren> | ten bucks says it was SEED. |
| 08:09 | < afny> | Yeah, or Wing |
| 08:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | It's RARE as fuck that it's /rad/ right out of the gate |
| 08:09 | < Tetrajak> | Original series gundam |
| 08:09 | < afny> | WHAAAT |
| 08:10 | <@Soren> | name. |
| 08:10 | <@Soren> | full name. |
| 08:10 | <@Soren> | 0079? |
| 08:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | I love the shit out of Firefly, but the first episode? Oy. Vei. |
| 08:10 | < afny> | Fuck I hate that episode. |
| 08:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | It takes writes some time to get things running right |
| 08:10 | <@Soren> | Joe: oh, god, yeah. also, racist Confederate apologism for the fail! |
| 08:11 | <@randolph> | Wut |
| 08:11 | <@randolph> | Firefly? |
| 08:11 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hell, I ended up really enjoying fucking /Gilmore Girls/ after my wife made me sit through enough of it. It's got some damn smart bits in there, but not at first |
| 08:11 | <@Soren> | Reavers, dude. |
| 08:11 | <@randolph> | I dunno Soren, I give Joss more credit than that. |
| 08:11 | <@Soren> | NAzi tyrant Unionists. |
| 08:11 | <@Soren> | No mention of slavery. |
| 08:11 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: Mobile Suit Gundam |
| 08:11 | <@Soren> | (in historical context, as opposed to 'oh the other guys have slaves!') |
| 08:12 | < afny> | Did you watch the |
| 08:12 | <@randolph> | I dunno man, I see that you *can* draw those parallels. |
| 08:12 | < afny> | EDITED run of Mobile Suit Gundam on Toonami? |
| 08:12 | < Tetrajak> | nope |
| 08:12 | <@randolph> | But it could also be as innocent as Spirit of the Century |
| 08:12 | < afny> | I admit there are some boring parts, especially when they first get back to Earth |
| 08:12 | <@randolph> | Anyway, I'm done with Chapter 3 first draft. It's going to be shitty until I get it edited |
| 08:12 | < afny> | But compared to most, nay, ANY contemporary anime |
| 08:12 | < afny> | that shit is hot. |
| 08:13 | <@randolph> | Macross Zero |
| 08:13 | < Tetrajak> | I'm not going to get into the list of gripes I have with gundam |
| 08:13 | <@Soren> | Randolph: the dude talks about reading a book on ex-Confederates as the inspiration fro the story. It uses the cinematic tropes and staging of a Western. |
| 08:13 | < afny> | My perception of the issue might be skewed a little bit because I literally just watched the three movies, so I don't really remember the pacing of the show. It is definitely slow in places |
| 08:13 | <@Soren> | If those parallels *aren't* in there, it's because people really, really don;t want to see them. |
| 08:13 | < Tetrajak> | Pacing wasn't my issue, although it's true that it could have been better |
| 08:14 | <@randolph> | No, I'm not saying the inspiration wasn't there |
| 08:14 | <@randolph> | But I'm saying the apologism isn't necessarily there |
| 08:14 | <@Soren> | it's in the show. |
| 08:14 | <@Soren> | Reavers are mindless savages who alter their bodies. |
| 08:14 | <@randolph> | Who can be *anyone* |
| 08:14 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ehhh |
| 08:14 | <@Soren> | Alliance troopers look like goddamn stormtroopers. |
| 08:14 | <@randolph> | And were made that way by the Alliance |
| 08:15 | <@Soren> | Whatever. If you want to pretend it's not there, cool. |
| 08:15 | <@randolph> | Urgh. |
| 08:15 | <@Soren> | role in story as opposed to role in universe. |
| 08:15 | <@randolph> | I'm saying there's no actual condoning of slavery |
| 08:15 | <@randolph> | Or racism. |
| 08:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | It's much more classism than racism |
| 08:15 | <@Soren> | no, they just took it completely out of the Independents' motivation. |
| 08:16 | <@randolph> | If you're saying "Joss is saying the confederates were fine if they took out the slavery" then, yeah, ok |
| 08:16 | < afny> | Well actually |
| 08:16 | < afny> | there IS mention of slavery |
| 08:16 | <@Soren> | which is still both wrong and gross. |
| 08:16 | < afny> | and it's sort of implied that a LOT of the border worlds condone it |
| 08:16 | < afny> | it's just that the crew of the Firefly doesn't, so it isn't really a focus |
| 08:16 | < afny> | but several times the slave trade is mentioned on the side |
| 08:16 | <@randolph> | <@Soren> which is still both wrong and gross. |
| 08:17 | < afny> | Badger is seen purchasing a slave at one point, and Mal pickpockets a slave trader |
| 08:17 | <@Soren> | I dunno man. I have a hard time seeing a government that suppressed white countersecessionists by force as moral or honest to its own stated principles |
| 08:17 | <@randolph> | I'll say that any apologism for the ACTUAL thing is wrong and gross, but I mean, once you make an alternate history where they didn't do that stuff, they stop being villains |
| 08:17 | <@Soren> | Let alone to actual moral principle. |
| 08:18 | <@Soren> | except that you implicitly endorse denialists who claim these things. |
| 08:18 | <@randolph> | Hm. |
| 08:18 | <@randolph> | So, *I* don't endorse those things, but I think Firefly is awesome. |
| 08:18 | <@Soren> | oddly enough! |
| 08:18 | <@Soren> | I do too. |
| 08:19 | <@Soren> | I just don;t see any benefit to pretending they're not there. |
| 08:19 | < afny> | I kind of think Firefly just has an unreliable narrator |
| 08:19 | <@randolph> | Hm. |
| 08:19 | <@randolph> | See, until you brought it up, I never noticed. |
| 08:19 | <@randolph> | Because to me, I was like "western in space woo" |
| 08:19 | <@randolph> | Also, terrible Chinese |
| 08:19 | <@randolph> | Terrible TERRIBLE Chinese |
| 08:19 | <@Soren> | ...but no Chinese actors. |
| 08:19 | < CalaveraJoe> | Randolph: There's a lot to be said for being able to just turn off your brain a bit and enjoy tv, hehe |
| 08:19 | <@Soren> | which was weird. |
| 08:20 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: +1 |
| 08:20 | <@randolph> | They were gonna |
| 08:20 | <@randolph> | But Jewel Staite nailed the role |
| 08:20 | < CalaveraJoe> | Half English Half Chinese society, no Chinese folks.. riiiiiight |
| 08:20 | <@randolph> | Simon and River are |
| 08:20 | < afny> | what |
| 08:20 | <@randolph> | Their kid versions are played by asians |
| 08:20 | <@randolph> | TAM. |
| 08:20 | < afny> | ...what |
| 08:20 | <@randolph> | Simon and River TAM |
| 08:21 | <@randolph> | They're Chinese |
| 08:21 | < afny> | uh |
| 08:21 | <@randolph> | I know the actors aren't |
| 08:21 | < afny> | well they're the whitest chinese people I've ever seen |
| 08:21 | <@randolph> | But check out the kiddie versions |
| 08:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, Tam's not /really/ a Chinese surname |
| 08:21 | <@Soren> | This conversation makes me wanna get high, and I'm allergic to the mary jane. |
| 08:21 | <@randolph> | Heh |
| 08:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | Um, Simon was... oh hell, what's his face |
| 08:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | Zach Efron |
| 08:22 | <@randolph> | Hell, I'll just find IMDB |
| 08:22 | < Tetrajak> | Soren: you poor soul, that is a horrible allergy to have |
| 08:22 | < afny> | Zach Efron is definitely not asian. |
| 08:22 | <@Soren> | I can drink like a champ, though, so I compensate. |
| 08:22 | < Tetrajak> | fair enough |
| 08:22 | < afny> | The girl who played River sure didn't look asian either |
| 08:22 | < afny> | but I can't find the actresses name |
| 08:22 | < Tetrajak> | Summer Glau? |
| 08:22 | <@randolph> | I'll admit, I haven't watched it in years |
| 08:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | The Tam surname is English, by the by |
| 08:23 | < afny> | young river |
| 08:23 | < Tetrajak> | or however her last name is spelt |
| 08:23 | < Tetrajak> | ah, my bad |
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| 08:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | If it had been Tan that'd be different |
| 08:23 | <@Soren> | However it goes, i don't buy it. |
| 08:23 | < Tetrajak> | cowboys in spaaaaaaaaaace! ignore all inconsistencies! |
| 08:24 | < afny> | Joss Whedon has never been one for a measured approach to antagonists |
| 08:24 | <@randolph> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_%28surname%29#Romanisation_and_pronunciation |
| 08:24 | < afny> | they're either 100% evil all of the time, or totally neutered love interests. |
| 08:24 | <@Soren> | afny: should *I* bring up Outlaw Star, or do you wanna? |
| 08:24 | < Tetrajak> | love that show |
| 08:24 | <@randolph> | "Alan Tam (???)" |
| 08:24 | < afny> | Oh fuck dude. |
| 08:24 | < Tetrajak> | Outlaw Star is so fucking awesome |
| 08:24 | <@randolph> | etc |
| 08:24 | <@Soren> | that it is. |
| 08:24 | < afny> | Outlaw star also has much deeper antagonists than Firefly. |
| 08:24 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: Fair enough, still, I'd sooner assumer Joss when with Tam for English, as in White and Rich |
| 08:24 | < Tetrajak> | lololol |
| 08:25 | <@Soren> | and that's a sad thing to say about such a whacked-out show. |
| 08:25 | <@randolph> | He made them look Chinese, *shrug* |
| 08:25 | < afny> | A show where a cat woman literally takes a nude hotspring bath in what is basically lava |
| 08:25 | < afny> | has better antagonists |
| 08:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Gabriel_Tam |
| 08:25 | < afny> | than a criticaly acclaimed sci-fi show. |
| 08:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | That guy looks Asian? |
| 08:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Regan_Tam Or that lady? |
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| 08:26 | <@randolph> | woah, not at all |
| 08:26 | < Ceddo> | Randy: |
| 08:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Summer Glau might, maybe, look part asianish, if you squint, sorta |
| 08:26 | < Ceddo> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1311&p=10027#p10027 |
| 08:26 | < Ceddo> | I just did upon Dukey the tremendous hurt. With a shovel. |
| 08:26 | < afny> | Are we still on about this asians in firefly thing |
| 08:26 | < afny> | there aren't any |
| 08:26 | < afny> | I think there are some asian extras in the Eavesdown docks scenes |
| 08:26 | < afny> | they're selling dog meat. |
| 08:27 | < afny> | SO TOPICAL. |
| 08:27 | < Tetrajak> | I think we can leave firefly alone |
| 08:27 | < Ceddo> | Someone needs to read my post. D: |
| 08:27 | <@Soren> | it's just that classy |
| 08:27 | < Tetrajak> | we've beaten it up already and taken it's lunch money |
| 08:28 | <@randolph> | Wow, my illusions, shattered |
| 08:28 | < afny> | MY IMMERSION. |
| 08:28 | <@Soren> | hah |
| 08:28 | <@Soren> | Nah, I knew nobody was gonna listen to me, I just thought that lobbing the grenade might go somewhere and make me feel a little better. |
| 08:28 | < Tetrajak> | brb |
| 08:29 | <@randolph> | Maaaan. |
| 08:30 | < afny> | I actually... |
| 08:30 | < afny> | ...think Dollhouse is better than Firefly. |
| 08:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: By the by (not sure if you saw my post on 'em), but thanks for the pic of the standard stations, I managed to brick out something pretty decent based off of them |
| 08:31 | <@Soren> | excellent! |
| 08:31 | <@randolph> | wait wait wait |
| 08:31 | <@randolph> | "River Tam, (??)" |
| 08:31 | <@Soren> | I'm looking at the forum now, actually. |
| 08:31 | <@randolph> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Tam#River_Tam |
| 08:32 | <@randolph> | Now, unless they fuckin' started giving Chinese names to British people in The Future |
| 08:32 | < afny> | Everyone in the show has chinese characters for their name |
| 08:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | Sino-Anglo Alliance, soooo yeah |
| 08:32 | < afny> | it's full language crossover |
| 08:32 | < afny> | it doesn't make them asian. |
| 08:32 | <@randolph> | Everyone does? |
| 08:32 | <@randolph> | What's Mal's? |
| 08:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | I know how to write my name in Japanese, doesn't make me any less of a white sumbitch |
| 08:32 | < afny> | I don't write in Mandarin, I don't know |
| 08:32 | <@randolph> | No, I mean, where is it? |
| 08:33 | < afny> | Where is Simon's? |
| 08:33 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: using your argument... where- afny beat me |
| 08:33 | < afny> | Always go for the jugular first |
| 08:33 | <@randolph> | I dunno, I only found this one |
| 08:33 | < afny> | and gloat after they're bleeding. |
| 08:33 | <@randolph> | But YOU claimed they all had it |
| 08:33 | <@randolph> | Not me |
| 08:33 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: its wiki, publicly editable |
| 08:33 | < afny> | My point is, just because someone wrote the characters for her name next to her name |
| 08:33 | <@randolph> | Yes, regardless, Afny claimed they all do |
| 08:33 | < afny> | doesn't make her asian |
| 08:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | I'd assume they all do, everyone speaks some (very very bad) Chinese, its a safe bet they can read it too |
| 08:34 | < afny> | or the actress that portrayed her asian |
| 08:34 | <@randolph> | Are you retracting that assertion? |
| 08:34 | <@randolph> | I'm cool with sticking to your other arguments |
| 08:34 | <@randolph> | But that earlier statement... I mean, if true, I can actually try to figure that out |
| 08:34 | < afny> | I'm so confused. What are you even asking? |
| 08:34 | < afny> | None of them are asian! |
| 08:35 | <@randolph> | <afny> Everyone in the show has chinese characters for their name |
| 08:35 | <@randolph> | Where is this info from |
| 08:35 | < afny> | They all speak both languages |
| 08:35 | < afny> | from the show! |
| 08:35 | <@randolph> | That proves nothing |
| 08:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | The use of Chinese is prominent throughout the universe in the show, especially in the core |
| 08:35 | <@randolph> | Where are these famous chinese characters |
| 08:35 | < afny> | You think they don't know how to write in the language they speak? |
| 08:35 | <@randolph> | I'm askign you if you pulled that out of your ass, or actually saw them |
| 08:36 | < CalaveraJoe> | I'm sure if I did enough digging through prop photos I could find at least a few examples |
| 08:36 | <@randolph> | So it's conjecture |
| 08:36 | <@randolph> | ? |
| 08:36 | < afny> | I haven't seen each individual characters name in Mandarin, no. It's an inference. |
| 08:36 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hell, the Serenity's own logo has Chinese script |
| 08:36 | <@randolph> | Ok |
| 08:36 | < afny> | I'm not saying they walk around with nametags in Mandarin |
| 08:36 | <@randolph> | That makes a big difference |
| 08:36 | < afny> | I don't see how. |
| 08:37 | <@randolph> | Because when you said <afny> Everyone in the show has chinese characters for their name, I thought, oh, then if I find, say, Wash's, then I know it's just a Thing |
| 08:37 | <@randolph> | But if it's conjecture, it doesn't really mean much either way |
| 08:37 | < afny> | It doesn't mean much anyway! |
| 08:37 | <@randolph> | So not worth pursuing |
| 08:37 | < afny> | The language use is pervasive |
| 08:37 | < afny> | of course people use both texts for their names |
| 08:37 | <@randolph> | Uh. |
| 08:37 | < afny> | but it doesn't make any of them asian. |
| 08:38 | <@randolph> | Why would you use both texts? Chinese is a bitch to use in computers |
| 08:38 | < afny> | I'm POSITIVE they use it in some of their computer interface |
| 08:38 | <@randolph> | There are plenty of people who are fluent in speaking a language, but can't write it |
| 08:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://3dheretics.infinitedreamers.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30 |
| 08:38 | < Tetrajak> | Wow, this discussion is still going? |
| 08:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | Written Chinese is ALL over the place |
| 08:38 | < Tetrajak> | I thought all the plot holes and inconsistencies had already been thoroughly poked |
| 08:39 | <@randolph> | Woah, nice |
| 08:39 | <@randolph> | Dammit, I can't make out Wash's name XD |
| 08:39 | <@randolph> | But it's there! |
| 08:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://www.sliceofscifi.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/papers.jpg |
| 08:40 | < Tetrajak> | I'm off for the night folks |
| 08:40 | < Tetrajak> | take care |
| 08:40 | < afny> | o/ |
| 08:40 | <@randolph> | CJ: Forbidden access |
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| 08:40 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/08/16/quantum-mechanix-inc-introduces-the-offic ial-serenity-ship-papers/ |
| 08:40 | <@randolph> | So, yeah, I reiterate: Maaaaan |
| 08:41 | <@randolph> | My illusions, shattered |
| 08:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | https://store.qmxonline.com/Serenity-Bank-Heist-Money-Pack_p_30.html# |
| 08:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | licensed replica money |
| 08:42 | <@randolph> | nog |
| 08:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | Blue Sun corp logo, again... it's ALLLLLLL over the place, which makes sense, Sino-Anglo alliance |
| 08:42 | <@randolph> | But see, now it just feels tacked on :( |
| 08:42 | < CalaveraJoe> | Or AngloSino |
| 08:43 | <@randolph> | Before you viciously tore this illusion from me, it made sense, if there were actual Chinese people |
| 08:43 | <@randolph> | But now, there are none, and it's this weird floppy appendix |
| 08:43 | < CalaveraJoe> | Clearly, all the Chinese people are working the Blue Sun version of Foxconn, thats why we never see them |
| 08:43 | | * CalaveraJoe is SO going to hell. |
| 08:43 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 08:43 | < McMartin_> | I hear "Blue Sun" I and think of Mass Effect 2 first -_- |
| 08:44 | < McMartin_> | So my thought is "Turian Batman got them all" |
| 08:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://xkcd.com/561/ |
| 08:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | You're welcome. |
| 08:45 | < McMartin_> | Emacs does in fact rule |
| 08:45 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://ruineverything.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/serenity148.jpg |
| 08:45 | < CalaveraJoe> | Look! I found one! |
| 08:45 | < CalaveraJoe> | *snickers* |
| 08:45 | < afny> | I knew there was at least one asian extra |
| 08:46 | <@randolph> | No, no, she could be ethnic Russian. |
| 08:46 | <@randolph> | Don't try to fool me, I can't love again. |
| 08:46 | < CalaveraJoe> | Still /technically/ Asian |
| 08:46 | < CalaveraJoe> | Depending on the half of Russia we're talking about |
| 08:47 | < CalaveraJoe> | Oh, and there's an Asian lady in the whore episode. She's doing laundry. |
| 08:47 | < CalaveraJoe> | -_- |
| 08:47 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 08:47 | <@randolph> | the one that never aired? |
| 08:48 | < CalaveraJoe> | Heart of Gold aired... I think |
| 08:48 | <@randolph> | Huh, thought it didn't |
| 08:48 | <@randolph> | Because they reworked the telepathy scene |
| 08:48 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ah, yer right, never ran in the original broadcast |
| 08:48 | <@randolph> | there were two versions, one where it referenced HoG, one that didn't |
| 08:48 | <@randolph> | (the telepathy bit) |
| 08:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | There is also, of course, the argument of 500+ years of interbreeding having a lot to do with homogenizing racial traits |
| 08:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | but that would imply that white genes won out and welllllllllll |
| 08:51 | <@randolph> | Nobody looks particularly hapa |
| 08:51 | <@randolph> | Well, Jewel kinda |
| 08:52 | < CalaveraJoe> | I'd argue that River could pass for at least part asian |
| 08:52 | <@randolph> | Not to an asian~ |
| 08:52 | <@randolph> | I mean, hell, Zac Effron looked more Chinese to me~ |
| 08:52 | < CalaveraJoe> | I've seen some interesting end results with asian blood in the line |
| 08:53 | < CalaveraJoe> | also depends on the flavor of asian blood going into the mixx |
| 08:53 | < CalaveraJoe> | theres a lot of variety in asia |
| 08:53 | <@randolph> | Oh, fair, you did say part |
| 08:53 | < CalaveraJoe> | Apu is /technically/ Asian |
| 08:53 | < afny> | asia is fucking gigantic, and it's a little ethnocentric to lump all "asians" together |
| 08:53 | < McMartin_> | Well |
| 08:53 | <@randolph> | Yeah, but we know what we mean when it's said. |
| 08:53 | < afny> | not really |
| 08:53 | < CalaveraJoe> | The argument with Firefly, really, should be, where the fuck are all the Chinese people |
| 08:53 | < afny> | I mean, you know it means a huge general area |
| 08:53 | < McMartin_> | Depends on continent. |
| 08:54 | < afny> | but that huge general area doesn't impart a lot of meaningful information |
| 08:54 | <@Soren> | Hey, if you guys ever come to visit? Stand far enough away that nobody hits me with a stray. |
| 08:54 | < McMartin_> | If you're talking to an American, "Asian" means East and/or Southeast. If you're talking to a Brit it means Indian Subcontinent |
| 08:54 | <@randolph> | A stray what? |
| 08:54 | | * McMartin_ swings a dead cat at Soren? |
| 08:54 | < McMartin_> | I guess there's enough room. |
| 08:54 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: lol, where do you call home? |
| 08:54 | <@Soren> | tomato, knife, shit-wad |
| 08:54 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 08:55 | <@Soren> | in a couple weeks, Malaysia. |
| 08:55 | < CalaveraJoe> | Presently? |
| 08:55 | <@Soren> | Colorado. |
| 08:55 | < CalaveraJoe> | Heck of a switch. |
| 08:55 | <@Soren> | I'm a flexible guy. |
| 08:55 | < CalaveraJoe> | Family or work? Or both? |
| 08:55 | <@Soren> | both. |
| 08:56 | < CalaveraJoe> | And I'm normally much more ethnically and racially functionally without being offensive (I'm a Germ-Irish Italian who's a Chicana/o Studies major) |
| 08:56 | <@randolph> | Heh |
| 08:56 | <@Soren> | I'm poking fun. |
| 08:56 | < CalaveraJoe> | It is, however, nearly 1 am, and I've been up since 6 (after going to bed at 2) and wrangling my 11 month old, hehe |
| 08:56 | < CalaveraJoe> | So the academic in me is on snooze |
| 08:56 | <@randolph> | I'm still trying to figure out why Joss failed me |
| 08:56 | < McMartin_> | That said, I'm entirely unaware of "Asian" carrying any negative connotation on its own. |
| 08:56 | <@Soren> | maybe not obviously enough |
| 08:56 | <@randolph> | WHY JOSS WHY |
| 08:57 | < CalaveraJoe> | McMartin_: Depends who is saying it to who and about what |
| 08:57 | < CalaveraJoe> | Just like Oriental |
| 08:57 | <@Soren> | not because he's a bad dude, just not as bright as he wants to come off? |
| 08:57 | < afny> | I didn't say it carried a negative connotation. It's not like saying "Orientals". I just think it's kind of a broad term and not all that meaningful. |
| 08:57 | < McMartin_> | "Oriental" is on my red flag list except in bizarre circumstances where it actually means Asia Minor |
| 08:57 | <@randolph> | Heh. |
| 08:57 | < CalaveraJoe> | I'm not talking about calling people Oriental, I'm talking about the /term/ |
| 08:58 | < McMartin_> | So am I |
| 08:58 | <@randolph> | I knew what CJ meant. I took no offense at it. |
| 08:58 | < CalaveraJoe> | There's that whole Oriental / Occidental thing, for example |
| 08:58 | <@randolph> | Hell, I use the term. |
| 08:58 | < CalaveraJoe> | Of course, they're Eurocentric terms, zoo yeah |
| 08:58 | < CalaveraJoe> | err soo, yeah |
| 08:58 | < McMartin_> | Kiinda. |
| 08:58 | < McMartin_> | Where "The West" starts is kind of iffy. |
| 08:58 | < CalaveraJoe> | It's like the word Tardy |
| 08:58 | <@randolph> | well, I don't use those terms, I meant "asian" |
| 08:59 | < CalaveraJoe> | It technically just means late, but if you look at the etymology, it's pretty harsh word to use what it means |
| 08:59 | < CalaveraJoe> | Or gyp |
| 08:59 | <@randolph> | ... yeah |
| 08:59 | < McMartin_> | That one's more problematic. |
| 08:59 | < afny> | Man, casual racism against gypsies is so common |
| 08:59 | < CalaveraJoe> | It's amazing how many people fail to see that saying someone "Gypped you" is no different than saying you "Got Jewed" |
| 08:59 | <@Soren> | ...starting with the term 'gypsy'? |
| 09:00 | < afny> | haha yeah |
| 09:00 | < afny> | but when I say travelers no one knows what I'm talking abut |
| 09:00 | < afny> | ABUT. |
| 09:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | ... fuckin' white people *snicker* |
| 09:00 | < McMartin_> | If you're west of Portugal they might as well be Elves =P |
| 09:00 | < afny> | they're like...you mean we hate tourists? |
| 09:00 | < McMartin_> | The idea that they're an *actual group of people* is something that isn't really part of the lore in children's stories out here. |
| 09:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | When I was little, living in Italy, there was a group of Rom that semi-regularly came into town |
| 09:01 | <@randolph> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ns-kXeQCMk |
| 09:01 | < CalaveraJoe> | To sell fruits and tchotkys and the like |
| 09:01 | < CalaveraJoe> | And some of my family was fine with it and some of my family just about shit kittens when I talked to them |
| 09:01 | < McMartin_> | Heh |
| 09:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | Me? I was just jealous of the kids who didn't have to go to school |
| 09:02 | < McMartin_> | Yeah, I didn't learn the word "Rom" until I was 15 or so, because they aren't really present as such in the American Southwest. |
| 09:02 | < McMartin_> | So one only encounters them in fairy stories |
| 09:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | I grew up knowing them as Zingari |
| 09:02 | < McMartin_> | I'm in my early 30s now and I still haven't quite wrapped my head about the idea that they aren't some kind of special case. |
| 09:02 | < CalaveraJoe> | Which is just the Italian term for Gypsies |
| 09:04 | < Ceddo> | I just sent the best two emails of my career here. |
| 09:04 | < Ceddo> | "Confirming appointment. No laptop, no beamer requested. No activity from system maintenance necessary." |
| 09:05 | < Ceddo> | Twice. |
| 09:05 | < McMartin_> | What's a "beamer" here? |
| 09:05 | < Ceddo> | Because Cpt. Dickbutt and the Failcrew want us to confirm all bookings. |
| 09:05 | < Ceddo> | Uhm ... LCD projector. |
| 09:05 | < McMartin_> | Gotcha. |
| 09:06 | < McMartin_> | CalaveraJoe: So, it's kind of hard to tell from over here because our international news is terrible, but I've gotten the vague impression that there's an uptick in Europe of people who should know better being more openly and vocally anti-Rom |
| 09:06 | < McMartin_> | Is this happening or is the American media going nutpicking? |
| 09:06 | < CalaveraJoe> | Hellifiknow. I life in SoCal, hehe |
| 09:07 | < CalaveraJoe> | But I can't say that it would surprise me |
| 09:07 | < McMartin_> | Ah, i missed some relevant bits given the arc of discussion, sorry =) |
| 09:07 | < McMartin_> | Which part? |
| 09:07 | < McMartin_> | (I grew up in San Diego) |
| 09:07 | < CalaveraJoe> | Anaheim |
| 09:07 | < McMartin_> | Aha |
| 09:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | But I moved about as much as most military brats as a kid (in spite of having NO immediate military family) |
| 09:08 | < CalaveraJoe> | Born in New Jersey, lived in Italy for a few years, then in Cali since 88 (where I've moved, fuck, I dunno, a dozen times or more through most of the San Gabriel Valley and North OC) |
| 09:09 | < CalaveraJoe> | Pop's Italian, he got homesick, so we moved home, then he got a job offer, and off we moved again... BUT it means I have super fun dual citizenship |
| 09:09 | | * McMartin_ has been bouncing around Silicon Valley the past decade or so. |
| 09:09 | | * CalaveraJoe really needs to get off his ass and get his EU passport |
| 09:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | My sis-in-law is up in Berkeley (just got her PhD) and we've got some friends in Livermore |
| 09:10 | < McMartin_> | It's so weird how Livermore and Novato and stuff are still "The Bay Area" |
| 09:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah |
| 09:10 | < McMartin_> | San Jose to Livermore is like Tijuana to Pasadena. |
| 09:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | Neat how that "bay" makes it an hour inland |
| 09:10 | < McMartin_> | In terms of distance |
| 09:10 | < CalaveraJoe> | Inland AND uphill |
| 09:10 | < McMartin_> | BOTH WAYS. |
| 09:11 | <@randolph> | Heh, I guess if you brick up a company, we can play, CJ |
| 09:11 | | * McMartin_ did his undergrad at Berkeley, then decided he liked the Bay Area but didn't want to stay there for like 10 years so he jumped ship to Stanford for grad school. |
| 09:12 | | * CalaveraJoe is a damn slacker and moved out and got a job at 19 (back in 1999) and is only now getting around to that whole schooling thing |
| 09:12 | < McMartin_> | Then the guy who would have been my advisor at Berkeley jumped over to Stanford four years later and wound up on my defense committee. |
| 09:13 | < McMartin_> | Yeah, so, I got my CS degree about two months before the Great Tech Crash. It's not obvious which is the slacker choice |
| 09:13 | <@randolph> | ^ not a slacker :P |
| 09:13 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ironically, I was doing tech support, hehe |
| 09:14 | < CalaveraJoe> | Cause I walked in with a HS diploma and knew my shit better than the monkeys with the MS certs |
| 09:14 | < McMartin_> | I can easily believe that -_- |
| 09:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | Did that for 5 years, then worked with my pop for 5 years, and I've been unemployed since 2010 |
| 09:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | and since last July, I've been a stay at home dad and a student |
| 09:15 | < CalaveraJoe> | While my saint of a wife works her butt off |
| 09:15 | < McMartin_> | Yay for her, and you, as all three of these things are worthy pursuits |
| 09:16 | < CalaveraJoe> | Well, we'd been trying for a tot for like 1.5 years by the time I got laid off |
| 09:16 | < CalaveraJoe> | No sense in stopping |
| 09:16 | < McMartin_> | heh |
| 09:16 | < CalaveraJoe> | and when we started looking at cost of newborn daycare we decided me trying to get a shit job in this economy was just silly |
| 09:16 | | * McMartin_ nods |
| 09:16 | < McMartin_> | So are you going to a CSU or some kind of correspondence/distance learning thing? |
| 09:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | CSUF |
| 09:17 | < McMartin_> | F. Fullerton? |
| 09:17 | <@randolph> | Yep |
| 09:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | from 07 to 11 I worked on my AA (Language Arts) taking a class here and there at night |
| 09:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah, Fullerton |
| 09:17 | < CalaveraJoe> | Now I'm doing my BA in Chicana/o Studies with a minor in Spanish |
| 09:18 | < CalaveraJoe> | With plans to (eventually *eyeroll*) get my MS in Counseling (possibly also pursuing an MFT cert) |
| 09:18 | < CalaveraJoe> | So if I'm lucky, I should have my Masters' Degree by the time I turn 40 *snicker* |
| 09:18 | < McMartin_> | I don't recognize that last acronym, but good stuff. |
| 09:18 | < CalaveraJoe> | MFT - Marriage / Family Therapy |
| 09:19 | < Ceddo> | Aaaand done. |
| 09:19 | < CalaveraJoe> | Psychoanalysis |
| 09:19 | < McMartin_> | Aha |
| 09:19 | < McMartin_> | Yeah, I couldn't figure out if this was some kind of medical or some kind of educational >_> |
| 09:19 | < CalaveraJoe> | Though the MFT is as much a fallback as anything else |
| 09:19 | < CalaveraJoe> | My plan is to be a Community College Academic Advisor / Counselor with an emphasis on students of Latino decent and the Deaf / Hard of Hearing |
| 09:20 | < CalaveraJoe> | but state budgets going how they are, welllllllll |
| 09:20 | <@randolph> | hah |
| 09:20 | < Ceddo> | I have noticed that the more engaged persons of these realms are mighty fine and educated people. |
| 09:20 | | Ceddo is now known as Ceddobear |
| 09:20 | < CalaveraJoe> | On the plus side, all this schooling has allowed me to fulfill my long time want to be a polyglot |
| 09:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | Or will |
| 09:21 | < CalaveraJoe> | as proficiency improves |
| 09:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | In a perfect world, I'd just major in Linguistics, but that's a field of study with... limited career options |
| 09:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | Unless you get lucky and James Cameron hires you to create a new language for him :P |
| 09:22 | <@Soren> | I'm looking forward to picking up Malay. |
| 09:22 | < McMartin_> | heh |
| 09:22 | < CalaveraJoe> | I studied some Japanese in High School, I don't /really/ have the head for Asian languages |
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| 09:23 | < Ceddobear> | Oh, boo. |
| 09:23 | < Ceddobear> | Randy, care to give me the oppers? |
| 09:23 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Ceddobear] by randolph |
| 09:23 | <@Soren> | I figure if you're living in someone's country the least you can do is manage "hello, thank you, I'm very sorry I didn't realize she was your daughter" and other social necessities in the native language. |
| 09:23 | <@Ceddobear> | Thankies! |
| 09:23 | < CalaveraJoe> | I understand them, mechanically, but they don't click the same way others do |
| 09:23 | <@Ceddobear> | Soren: "Hey, thanks, Sorry, wusste nich, dasset ihre Tochter war." |
| 09:23 | <@randolph> | Sino-Tibetan? |
| 09:23 | <@Ceddobear> | *thanks = danke |
| 09:24 | <@randolph> | Japanese is a weird isolate |
| 09:24 | <@Soren> | I've got a fair chunk of German, but thanks. |
| 09:24 | <@Soren> | (it's poorly practiced, sadly.) |
| 09:24 | < McMartin_> | randolph: They solved that! By cheating. |
| 09:24 | <@Ceddobear> | "Salut, merci, j'pas savu c'est votre fille." |
| 09:24 | <@Soren> | my Latin is better but nobody speaks Latin so I mostly just have good grammar. |
| 09:24 | < McMartin_> | They made Ryukyuan (sp?) its own language. |
| 09:24 | <@Soren> | etc. |
| 09:24 | <@randolph> | Heh |
| 09:24 | < McMartin_> | So now Japanese is part of the Japonic family! |
| 09:24 | <@Ceddobear> | Latin ... |
| 09:24 | < McMartin_> | GROUPING PROBLEM SOLVED |
| 09:25 | < McMartin_> | There's Greek. |
| 09:25 | <@randolph> | Right, I'm asking CJ if he means "no head for Japanese" or "no head for Sino-Tibetan family" or something else |
| 09:25 | < McMartin_> | Greek is great if only because English only murdered it *secondhand* |
| 09:25 | <@Ceddobear> | "Salut, mea culpa, non cognoscero eo filia." ? :D |
| 09:25 | <@Soren> | Ced: it's Latin. It's got three different words depending on if you thought she was a whore or you were just hoping not to piss off one of the City Fathers. |
| 09:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: Japanese, Chinese, Korean |
| 09:25 | < CalaveraJoe> | They don't /click/ for me |
| 09:25 | < McMartin_> | murdered? mugged |
| 09:25 | < McMartin_> | It's late, wrong linguistic crime |
| 09:25 | <@randolph> | If you wanted THAT, do K!ung'San~ |
| 09:25 | <@randolph> | I kid |
| 09:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: I love that Latin also has a future perfect tense |
| 09:26 | < afny> | My extent of Latin is a little bit in Middle School and a religious reading of the graffiti from Pompeii and Herculaneum. |
| 09:26 | < McMartin_> | That said, someone I know elsenet has been collecting as his "sentence to know in all the languages" "Two beers please, my friend will pay" |
| 09:26 | <@randolph> | Have you tried Tagalog? |
| 09:26 | < CalaveraJoe> | Verbs (at least some of them) can be conjugated for events that /will/ occur |
| 09:26 | <@Soren> | I just love that Latin has the perfect words for just about every sex act. |
| 09:27 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 09:27 | < McMartin_> | CalaveraJoe: So, um, if you say in English "The laundry will have finished by the time we get back to the laundromat" nobody bats an eye |
| 09:27 | < CalaveraJoe> | randolph: Only a smattering. At this point, my language acquisition is limited by realistic amount of time to learn and what will I /use/ |
| 09:27 | < McMartin_> | OH SHIT MY POSTILLION HAS BEEN STRUCK BY LIGHTNING |
| 09:27 | < CalaveraJoe> | McMartin: It's different than that |
| 09:27 | <@Soren> | Joe: yeah, it's one of the perks of a culture that was big into omens. |
| 09:28 | < CalaveraJoe> | Future perfect is an odd, beautiful, fish |
| 09:28 | < afny> | they ruled at graffiti |
| 09:28 | < afny> | "VIII.2 (in the basilica); 1882: The one who buggers a fire burns his penis" |
| 09:28 | < afny> | I MEAN COME ON. |
| 09:28 | <@Soren> | Like I said. |
| 09:28 | <@Soren> | awesome dirty vocabulary. |
| 09:28 | < CalaveraJoe> | "The future perfect is used to describe an event that is expected or planned to happen before another event in the future. It is a grammatical combination of the future tense, or other marking of future time, and the perfect, itself a combination of tense and aspect." |
| 09:29 | < afny> | "V.5 (just outside the Vesuvius gate); 6641: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place" |
| 09:29 | < afny> | And so polite. |
| 09:29 | < McMartin_> | CalaveraJoe: Er |
| 09:29 | <@Soren> | Sometimes I think it's such an orderly language because the morning after the orgy, it's *really important* to be able to say exactly who stuck what in whom while hungover. |
| 09:29 | < McMartin_> | That sounds a whole lot like what I did there |
| 09:29 | < CalaveraJoe> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_perfect |
| 09:29 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ocdt5uaidiac43y/Wilbur.jpg ALSO. |
| 09:30 | < McMartin_> | I used it to describe an event (the laundry finishing) that was expected or planned to happen before another event in the future (our return to the laundromat). |
| 09:30 | < CalaveraJoe> | Its fiddlier than that |
| 09:30 | < McMartin_> | Granted, in English that is boring, because prepositions |
| 09:30 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, its the actual verb that conjugates |
| 09:30 | < McMartin_> | Sure, because Indo-European |
| 09:31 | < afny> | that's so nice. I'm tempted to beef up the arms on an MgN like that |
| 09:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | "We shall have spoken" becomes dixerimus |
| 09:31 | < McMartin_> | Heh, yeah. |
| 09:31 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: Noice! Hey, back 18 topics... anyone bricked up an Ijad station? |
| 09:31 | | * McMartin_ counts |
| 09:32 | < McMartin_> | I haven't been able to come up with a reasonable one =( |
| 09:32 | <@Soren> | Joe: not to my knowledge but I've experimented with some dino flippers and bionicle masks |
| 09:32 | < afny> | Welp, when I think Ijad architecture I just think Protoss buildings |
| 09:32 | <@Soren> | hah |
| 09:32 | <@randolph> | Pylons it is |
| 09:32 | <@Ceddobear> | 11 Orders shipped, change status when received (?) |
| 09:32 | < McMartin_> | My ground effect vehicles make neat stations, but they look a lot more Solarian Union than anything else. |
| 09:32 | <@Soren> | I guess I could just go there and wait for the lawyers. |
| 09:32 | < afny> | or to a lesser extent the orc designs from WC2 |
| 09:32 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ceddobear: Niiiiice |
| 09:32 | <@Ceddobear> | I WILL, BrickLink. I WILL. |
| 09:32 | < McMartin_> | Also, they kind of look ilke they're flipping off the other players |
| 09:33 | <@Ceddobear> | Two fuckin' companies. So many orders. :( |
| 09:33 | < afny> | circular designs like super-modern yurts |
| 09:33 | < afny> | I have no idea how to build this in lego |
| 09:33 | <@Soren> | I had 30 open orders at one point |
| 09:33 | <@randolph> | Bandname Alert: Supermodern Yurt |
| 09:33 | <@Soren> | YOME |
| 09:33 | <@Soren> | FUCKING RIGHT NOW |
| 09:33 | < McMartin_> | https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/mfz_proto/metalhead_01.jpg |
| 09:33 | <@Soren> | GOOGLE |
| 09:33 | < McMartin_> | ION CANNON READY |
| 09:33 | <@Soren> | WITH THE SWIFTNESSSSSSS |
| 09:33 | < afny> | oh fuck |
| 09:33 | <@Ceddobear> | WHAT IS GOING ON WHY ARE WE YELLING. |
| 09:33 | < afny> | I want to live in oneeee |
| 09:34 | <@Soren> | BECAUSE THE WIN IS TOO MUCH |
| 09:34 | <@randolph> | Oh, give me a yome / where the... uh... afny-lo rome? |
| 09:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yeah, safe search that one if you aren't someplace NSFWable, hehe |
| 09:34 | < afny> | what |
| 09:34 | < afny> | really |
| 09:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | Yome |
| 09:34 | < CalaveraJoe> | Google it |
| 09:35 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/yome-600x450.jpg |
| 09:35 | | * McMartin_ googles something *else*. |
| 09:35 | <@Ceddobear> | This? |
| 09:35 | < afny> | okay, it took SEVERAL scrolls to get to the hentai |
| 09:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | just be ready for animu tits if you image it |
| 09:35 | <@Ceddobear> | CJ: I noticed. Lotsa BOOBIES. |
| 09:35 | < McMartin_> | http://wurb.com/if/game/1186 |
| 09:35 | < CalaveraJoe> | Several scrolls? HA! 8th image |
| 09:35 | <@Soren> | yeah, the geodesic yurt, not the tits. |
| 09:35 | <@Ceddobear> | Somehow, the tits seem nicer. |
| 09:35 | <@Soren> | icosahedral, rather. |
| 09:36 | <@Ceddobear> | I mean, like tits. |
| 09:36 | < McMartin_> | Geodesics are pretty great, but more capsela than lego |
| 09:36 | <@Ceddobear> | Tents with wooden doors are cool, don't get me wrong. |
| 09:36 | <@Ceddobear> | But not as high up as tits. |
| 09:36 | <@Ceddobear> | But each their own. |
| 09:36 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also, also, if I were going to pick up a big ol pile of bricks for quick and dirty cover / terrain, best /easiest to stick to 1 x N bricks? |
| 09:36 | <@Ceddobear> | I use 1x2 masonry bricks. |
| 09:36 | <@randolph> | nn all |
| 09:36 | <@Ceddobear> | Night, Randy. |
| 09:37 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ceddo: Isn't that, I dunno, dickish with the whole blow off 6 rule? |
| 09:37 | <@Ceddobear> | Nah, it ACTUALLY works just about right. |
| 09:37 | < CalaveraJoe> | Also HOW HAVE I NEVER SEEN MASONRY LEGO IN THE PLASTIC?!?!? |
| 09:37 | <@Ceddobear> | A 6 bricks high wall can take 2 hits before it's down to 2 bricks and don't count no more. |
| 09:37 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ah, that's why, FEW sets |
| 09:38 | <@Ceddobear> | And that sounds just about right. |
| 09:38 | <@Ceddobear> | Yeah, but stores have them by the thousands. |
| 09:38 | <@Ceddobear> | Like, my local store has 10,000. Of EACH of the 4 colours. |
| 09:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | EU or US? |
| 09:38 | <@Ceddobear> | Eh, EU, I guess. |
| 09:38 | < CalaveraJoe> | -_- Ihateyou |
| 09:38 | <@Ceddobear> | I grabbed ~400 of them for 50 Euros. |
| 09:39 | < CalaveraJoe> | diaf |
| 09:39 | <@Ceddobear> | They made 7 pieces of cover, by themselves. |
| 09:39 | <@Ceddobear> | And blow up like a charm while looking really good. |
| 09:40 | <@Soren> | yeah, 1x2 and 1x4 bricks by themselves are all you really need for cover. They give nice, consistent damage effects. |
| 09:40 | <@Ceddobear> | CJ: I can grab some and send them to you? |
| 09:40 | < CalaveraJoe> | Not worth the postage, I would think |
| 09:40 | <@Ceddobear> | I am gonna use 1x10 or 1x8 bricks as the base, because ... why even bother with the tw obottom rows? |
| 09:41 | <@Soren> | true, I can see the logic there. |
| 09:41 | < McMartin_> | Hm. |
| 09:41 | < McMartin_> | Ijad houses. |
| 09:41 | | * McMartin_ thinks: The Stepford Colonists |
| 09:41 | < afny> | I'm still thinking about that |
| 09:41 | < afny> | see, the reason I think something like a Yurt would be central to Ijad architecture is |
| 09:41 | < CalaveraJoe> | Looks like about $0.20 per brick is the best price from anyone that's got at least 100 of them floating around |
| 09:41 | < afny> | they're so modular, they don't subscribe to city planning our an overlying structure |
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| 09:42 | <@Soren> | plus, tribal social structure. |
| 09:42 | < afny> | they're good for permanent residency in many different terrains, AND they're good for a nomadic lifestyle |
| 09:42 | < afny> | then you have some other influences, maybe longhouses |
| 09:42 | <@Soren> | it's climate dependent, I would imagine. |
| 09:43 | < afny> | maybe a bit of mosque or pyramid religiosity |
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| 09:43 | < afny> | I'm sort of seeing a sliding scale from modern day yurts to dragon ball style capsule houses |
| 09:43 | <@Soren> | authorial fiat: Ijad religious buildings don;t have roofs. |
| 09:43 | < CalaveraJoe> | Sadly, 98283 is not a pick a brick part |
| 09:43 | < afny> | FIAT ALERT |
| 09:43 | < afny> | We got a fiat in here |
| 09:44 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: To let the god flow in? |
| 09:44 | < afny> | I actually really appreciate that on a lego level because FUCK building a roof |
| 09:44 | < McMartin_> | Vroom vroom? |
| 09:44 | <@Soren> | Well, their home planet is the moon of a really huge gas giant. |
| 09:45 | < McMartin_> | Also: the system I've been working up as a setting for my battles has the Ijad mostly settling in the buildings already there. |
| 09:45 | <@Soren> | There's no 'let the god in', it's more 'you'd better believe the god is watching' |
| 09:45 | < McMartin_> | The Free-Colonies-aligned guys are reacting to this with the kind of measured calm associated with Attack Of The Pod People |
| 09:45 | <@Soren> | hah |
| 09:45 | < McMartin_> | And I have no Solarian Union angle yet. |
| 09:46 | < afny> | sadly most community fluff I've seen from the SU side paints them as either |
| 09:46 | < afny> | ...ahem...the Firefly antagonists |
| 09:46 | < afny> | or Space Marines |
| 09:46 | < McMartin_> | Maybe they can be collection agents that didn't get the memo about the colony being abandoned for being way too unprofitable. |
| 09:47 | < McMartin_> | I'm kind of going for a vibe of "abandoned colonists fighting over the scraps *with* the scraps - and maybe some hope that they'll be able to do better than they started once they get their acts together" |
| 09:47 | | * CalaveraJoe is trying to visualize the volume of 100 1 x 2 bricks |
| 09:47 | < afny> | that sounds like a cool campaign setting |
| 09:47 | < McMartin_> | Well, 1x2 is 10/16"*5/16"*3/8" |
| 09:48 | < afny> | it wouldn't be hard to plug a UMFL regiment into that debacle |
| 09:48 | < afny> | considering they're manned by the local pop. |
| 09:48 | <@Ceddobear> | CJ: I can help you. |
| 09:48 | < McMartin_> | TO LISP, WITH ITS INFINITE PRECISION RATIONALS |
| 09:48 | <@Ceddobear> | Think of half a letter page. |
| 09:48 | < McMartin_> | No, wait |
| 09:48 | < McMartin_> | I already taught Units about this. |
| 09:48 | <@Ceddobear> | Then, make it about half an inch tall. |
| 09:48 | <@Ceddobear> | About an ounce heavy. |
| 09:49 | <@Ceddobear> | That's what a loose baggy of 100 1x2 bricks looks like. |
| 09:49 | < CalaveraJoe> | *nod* |
| 09:49 | <@Ceddobear> | You get about 1.5 pieces of 6 bricks high cover from that. |
| 09:49 | < afny> | wow that's not a lot |
| 09:49 | <@Ceddobear> | If you add 1x 10 or 1x 8 at the bottom, more like 2. |
| 09:50 | < McMartin_> | I'm getting 120 cubic centimeters. |
| 09:50 | < afny> | my first battlefield is going to be MULTICOLORED, clearly. |
| 09:50 | < McMartin_> | Which is a cube about 5cm on a side. |
| 09:50 | <@Ceddobear> | CJ/afny: |
| 09:50 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/13g_nr_2_deploy_b1.png |
| 09:50 | <@Ceddobear> | The gray/brown walls are ~380 masonry bricks. |
| 09:51 | < McMartin_> | afny: I guess my question with the UMFL/SU generally is what their angle is. |
| 09:51 | <@Ceddobear> | All 7 of them, that is. |
| 09:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ooh, good use of tires |
| 09:51 | <@Soren> | I wrote a quick little thing about that a while back. |
| 09:51 | < afny> | Ced |
| 09:51 | < McMartin_> | It's kind of dumb to have them be moustache twirling industrialists trying to make everyone work in the mines for worthless ore nobody wants |
| 09:51 | < afny> | why is ADMIRAL AKBAR sitting on that wall |
| 09:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | Soren: 'bout wot? |
| 09:51 | < McMartin_> | NONE OF MY FRAMES HAVE TWIRLABLE MOUSTACHES |
| 09:51 | <@Soren> | SU motivation is economic, FC motivation is political, Ijad motivation is religious. |
| 09:51 | < McMartin_> | A severe lack, to be sure |
| 09:51 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ah |
| 09:51 | <@Ceddobear> | Afny: Admiral Ackbar is in EVERY Battle Report. |
| 09:51 | <@Ceddobear> | He is the ref. |
| 09:52 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/13g_nr_2_2_b2.png |
| 09:52 | <@Soren> | They usually want the same shit, but they find very different ways to justify the process of taking it from the other guys. |
| 09:52 | <@Ceddobear> | Here, he inspects Ambercroft's stormshield. |
| 09:52 | < afny> | haha I like your flopped Chub |
| 09:52 | < McMartin_> | Soren: Yeah, in my initial cut at this setting, the fight was more or less started by the SU saying "you guys aren't worth the effort to exploit" and fucking off |
| 09:52 | <@Ceddobear> | Well, it lost 3 systems. So it flopped. |
| 09:52 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/13g_nr_2_5_b1.png |
| 09:52 | < McMartin_> | Leaving the colonists to go "now what" and wonder if they're going to starve to death |
| 09:52 | <@Ceddobear> | Here, the Admiral stumbled over some rubble. |
| 09:53 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/13g_nr_2_end_b1.png |
| 09:53 | <@Ceddobear> | And here, he declares the winner. |
| 09:53 | <@Soren> | McMartin: maybe they left some guys behind who aren't wellliked by the locals. |
| 09:53 | < McMartin_> | Cue overtures to the FC and contact with the Ijad |
| 09:53 | < afny> | yeah, they might've left all the UMFL soldiers minus the Martian brass |
| 09:53 | <@Ceddobear> | So, basically, a militia. |
| 09:53 | <@Ceddobear> | Without proper military lead. |
| 09:54 | < afny> | they're already hated by the local Ijad and the active FC because of past engagements, but they're just as fucked as anyone |
| 09:54 | <@Ceddobear> | The Admiral watches the Serpent Legion advance: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_1_1_b2.png |
| 09:54 | < McMartin_> | Hm. So they can be the crazy survivalists. |
| 09:54 | < McMartin_> | That works pretty well. |
| 09:54 | < McMartin_> | Well, not crazy |
| 09:55 | < CalaveraJoe> | Ceddobear: Are those tires all cut from making naga and the like? |
| 09:55 | < McMartin_> | Their motivation is "we'd like to not starve yet, give us that package of seeds" |
| 09:55 | <@Ceddobear> | The Admiral told Ernie it's a trap. He wouldn't take evasive maneuvers. Now he is dead. http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_1_2_b1.png |
| 09:55 | < McMartin_> | Oh wait, excuse me |
| 09:55 | <@Ceddobear> | CJ, nah that was a new project. :D |
| 09:55 | <@Ceddobear> | Lemme show you. |
| 09:55 | < McMartin_> | That transport mech full of peaches |
| 09:55 | < McMartin_> | Since this *is* MFZ |
| 09:55 | <@Soren> | indeed. |
| 09:55 | <@Soren> | time to get some 3x4 and 2x2 crate parts. |
| 09:55 | < McMartin_> | I have a buttload |
| 09:55 | < McMartin_> | They just need to get up here. |
| 09:55 | <@Ceddobear> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/monstertire.png |
| 09:56 | < McMartin_> | HEIRLOOM PEACH PITS |
| 09:56 | <@Soren> | then you're all set. |
| 09:56 | < McMartin_> | IN THE GRIM FUTURE OF CATALYST IV THERE IS MOSTLY AGRICULTURE |
| 09:56 | < McMartin_> | BUT IT'S REALLY HARD, SO RAIDERS ARE A PROBLEM |
| 09:56 | <@Ceddobear> | SUFFER NOT THE WASPS TO RUIN YOUR PEACH CROP. |
| 09:56 | | * McMartin_ is not offered a job at Games Workshop. |
| 09:56 | <@Ceddobear> | AS LONG AS ONE WORM EATS PEACH MEAT, THERE CAN BE NO PIE. |
| 09:57 | <@Ceddobear> | So grimdark. |
| 09:57 | <@Soren> | Even the tiny pies have weathering. |
| 09:58 | < afny> | the hardest damn pie this side of saturn. |
| 09:58 | < McMartin_> | Hilariously, my first encounter with direct WH40k references was the infamous IN THE GRIM FUTURE OF HELLO KITTY THERE IS ONLY WAR pic. |
| 09:58 | < CalaveraJoe> | Minimum buy $199?!? That's wacky talk |
| 09:59 | < McMartin_> | Ceddobear: The fun bit is, I wasn't really going for grimdark. |
| 09:59 | <@Ceddobear> | I was. |
| 09:59 | <@Ceddobear> | IT'S BETTER TO GIVE YOUR LIFE TO THE PEACH PLANTATION THAN LIVE IT FOR YOURSELF. |
| 09:59 | < McMartin_> | I just started with "all my stuff looks like Descent rejects, not frames", then went to "clearly these are all repurposed, abandoned mining equipment" and worked backwards |
| 10:00 | <@Ceddobear> | PEACHES ARE THE CURRENCY OF THE UNION. SPEND THEM WISELY. |
| 10:00 | | * CalaveraJoe glares at the clock |
| 10:00 | < McMartin_> | In these uncertain economic times, PEACHES are the ONLY TRUE STORE OF VALUE |
| 10:00 | < McMartin_> | Oh hey, how about that |
| 10:00 | < McMartin_> | Yeah, very sleep. |
| 10:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | Okay, clearly the kidlet is going to wake up at 6 again, so yeah, I should sleep |
| 10:00 | < CalaveraJoe> | Later folks |
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| 10:01 | <@Ceddobear> | Later CJ. |
| 10:01 | <@Ceddobear> | I am just waiting for Dukey to come in here and curse me. |
| 10:02 | < afny> | So Ced |
| 10:02 | < afny> | you're against fielding a purely melee frame |
| 10:02 | < afny> | right? |
| 10:07 | <@Soren> | He's against it for himself. I'm sure if you fielded one he'd clap for joy. |
| 10:07 | < afny> | this is my concern |
| 10:08 | <@Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/ reupped, now with moar stabbity |
| 10:10 | < afny> | love the jagged look of the Slammer's arms |
| 10:10 | <@Soren> | I'm endlessly amused by the little guys. |
| 10:13 | <@Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7155599261 So I put up a picture of just them |
| 10:22 | <@Ceddobear> | afny: You can field HtH all you want. |
| 10:22 | <@Ceddobear> | By all means. |
| 10:22 | <@Ceddobear> | Beat me with it, too. |
| 10:22 | <@Ceddobear> | I just won't even consider wasting a single system to Hth. |
| 10:23 | <@Ceddobear> | HtH is, by default, inferior. |
| 10:23 | <@Ceddobear> | It has no threat bubble compared to DF. It has too many dead turns. |
| 10:23 | <@Ceddobear> | It may hit harder, but it's easier avoided than any other attack. |
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| 10:26 | < Ced> | Soren: 4 Super Strider, 2 Slammer, 1 Fuuchi? |
| 10:26 | <@Soren> | yep |
| 10:27 | < afny> | hey, on your MgNs, how do you get the cheese slopes on the chest to face forward? |
| 10:27 | <@Soren> | hm? |
| 10:27 | < afny> | is it connected to the travis instead of the taps via plates? |
| 10:27 | < afny> | umm let me find what I mean |
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| 10:27 | < Ced> | So ... Arty, Df, Df, Df, HtH, HtH, ihavenoideawhatfuuchisdo? |
| 10:28 | <@Soren> | spot like little motherfuckers. |
| 10:28 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/3663073860/in/pool-438009@N25 |
| 10:28 | <@Soren> | 2Y 2B Gd8 |
| 10:28 | < afny> | the white 1x1 tiles on the left, the black cheese slopes on the right |
| 10:28 | <@Soren> | plus glorious rockets |
| 10:28 | < afny> | they look like they're plugged directly into the taps, but they can't |
| 10:28 | <@Soren> | there's a 1x1 round under them |
| 10:29 | < afny> | oh, so the smaller side of the tap is facing forward? |
| 10:29 | < afny> | with a 1x1 round on it? |
| 10:29 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 10:29 | < afny> | ah, okay. I tried that but I wasn't sure about the angle the arms gave me |
| 10:35 | <@Soren> | it should be okay. |
| 10:37 | < Ced> | Your Fuuchi is inferior to my ... any 'frame. |
| 10:37 | <@Soren> | I'm not convinced of that |
| 10:38 | < Ced> | I am. It cannot shoot. |
| 10:38 | <@Soren> | it's got all the rockets. |
| 10:38 | < Ced> | Sweet! |
| 10:38 | < Ced> | Even better. |
| 10:39 | < Ced> | I love it when eggs are with baskets in oligopolistic connection. |
| 10:42 | < afny> | my problem with reversing the tap is I lose all the articulation, since my method for attaching the head is to just use a 1x2 plate with a bar and a clip just plugged directly in to the central travis |
| 10:42 | < afny> | and then a clip on the bar just like a chub's head |
| 10:42 | < afny> | if I switch the tap around it just crashes into the 1x2 plate w/bar |
| 10:43 | < afny> | it's not super important because I think I'm going to do a big chest piece on this one |
| 10:43 | < afny> | that all anchors on the front of the travis |
| 10:46 | <@Soren> | not a bad plan |
| 10:49 | < Ced> | My good plan: Survive 4 more hours and head home. |
| 10:53 | < afny> | hm |
| 10:53 | < afny> | in the middle of trying to make a ribcage-esque structure out of white clips |
| 10:53 | < afny> | I realize this looks way too much like an angel from Eva |
| 10:53 | < Ced> | DO IT. |
| 10:54 | < afny> | I will, but not to an MgN |
| 10:54 | < afny> | that's like making a Chub into Unit 02 |
| 10:54 | < Ced> | Okay. |
| 10:55 | < Ced> | Do it. |
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| 11:08 | < afny> | hm okay |
| 11:08 | < afny> | got a guy with shoulder jets |
| 11:08 | < afny> | can I PLAUSIBLY give him a sniper |
| 11:09 | < afny> | I mean, it seems like a green would be good for a long range attacker because you could reposition him |
| 11:09 | < afny> | what about 2dA +d8, then a green and a blue |
| 11:09 | < afny> | and he's the only guy in the company with no spot? |
| 11:12 | < Dukayn> | I dont see why a frame with jump jets can't use a sniper rifle |
| 11:12 | < Dukayn> | it's not like they'll be actually looking down the scope |
| 11:13 | < afny> | well I didn't mean thematically, I meant is it optimal |
| 11:13 | < Dukayn> | oh right |
| 11:13 | < afny> | to load a frame out that way |
| 11:13 | < Dukayn> | 2dA+d8 YG or YB both work |
| 11:13 | < Dukayn> | or GB even |
| 11:14 | < Dukayn> | they're all legit and have different advantages and disadvantages |
| 11:14 | < Dukayn> | you could even drop the d8 and have 2A YYG/YYB |
| 11:14 | < afny> | I already have one YY in this company |
| 11:14 | < afny> | and may even have a second |
| 11:15 | < Dukayn> | just remember that an arty frame with only Y can only spot in DF |
| 11:16 | < afny> | I can't see that ever being a problem since he'll never be spotting for himself |
| 11:17 | < afny> | the good thing about this company is that all of them except the tachi use interchangeable weapons |
| 11:17 | < afny> | and so far, backmounts as well |
| 11:17 | < Dukayn> | well it means he has to be in DF range of an enemy to spot them, which means he can't shoot them. |
| 11:18 | < Dukayn> | and they more likely CAN shoot him :P |
| 11:19 | < afny> | I'm confused |
| 11:19 | < afny> | oh, like |
| 11:19 | < afny> | nope |
| 11:19 | < afny> | I'm still confused |
| 11:20 | < Dukayn> | One Y = spot at DF range |
| 11:20 | < afny> | you're saying only one Y isn't optimal because it doesn't synergize with his natural attack range |
| 11:20 | < Dukayn> | basically, yeah |
| 11:20 | < afny> | even though he wouldn't be using that spot for himself |
| 11:20 | < afny> | I don't know, that's definitely true, but on the other hand is a blue going to help me more |
| 11:20 | < afny> | or is putting a spot on his attacker and then moving my other units in to cover |
| 11:21 | < afny> | going to serve me better |
| 11:21 | < afny> | I guess it depends on initial placement a lot |
| 11:21 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 11:21 | < Dukayn> | it's situational |
| 11:21 | < Ced> | OH HAI DUKEY. |
| 11:21 | < afny> | a shield would look very cool on this guy |
| 11:21 | < Dukayn> | HI CED |
| 11:21 | < Ced> | :D |
| 11:21 | < afny> | if I can find another white slope |
| 11:21 | < Dukayn> | YOU BASTARD :p |
| 11:21 | < Ced> | Oh, come on. |
| 11:21 | < Ced> | It was masterfully delivered. |
| 11:22 | < Dukayn> | Now I have to trawl that post and figure out what systems to drop from what little frames I have left :P |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | Nah. |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | You lost both targets. |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | No survivors. |
| 11:22 | < Dukayn> | All 4? |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | I halfed your company. |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | You have 2 undamaged survivors. |
| 11:22 | < Dukayn> | Oh you only shot at the 2 |
| 11:22 | < Dukayn> | Cool cool |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | Yes, and blew them to bits. |
| 11:22 | < Ced> | Also: http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-358988-galleryV9-nbjb.jpg |
| 11:23 | < Dukayn> | LOL I know |
| 11:23 | < Dukayn> | Saw it on reddit |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | It's fucking hilarious. |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Because my friend's cat died a week ago like that. |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | Totes posting this on my facebook. |
| 11:23 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 11:23 | < afny> | your logic |
| 11:23 | < afny> | horrifies me |
| 11:23 | < Dukayn> | did I show you the Chub I've been working on? |
| 11:23 | < Ced> | The one with the breast flaps? |
| 11:23 | < Dukayn> | lol yeah |
| 11:23 | < Dukayn> | except I fixed those |
| 11:24 | < Ced> | afny: She's wearing black for 10 days now. |
| 11:24 | < Ced> | Put his sleeping mat on her wall. |
| 11:24 | < Ced> | And she didn't put on a raincoat when it was pouring, because the coat wasn't black. |
| 11:24 | < Dukayn> | o_O |
| 11:24 | < Ced> | She changed her FB picture to a black square. |
| 11:24 | < Dukayn> | This chick is crazy |
| 11:24 | < Dukayn> | Get the fuck out, now! |
| 11:24 | < afny> | your logic no longer horrifies me |
| 11:24 | < afny> | your social circle horrifies me. |
| 11:24 | < Ced> | And she refused to go to two parties, finish her bachelor essay etc. |
| 11:25 | < Ced> | Because her cat died. |
| 11:25 | < Ced> | The cat that livd with her parents. |
| 11:25 | < afny> | sounds like she wasn't in a good emotional place to begin with |
| 11:25 | < Ced> | Where she moved out 10 years ago. |
| 11:25 | < Dukayn> | relevant |
| 11:25 | < Dukayn> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4 |
| 11:25 | < afny> | and that was just sort of the straw that broke the camel's bck |
| 11:25 | < afny> | +a |
| 11:25 | < Ced> | The cat she saw ONCE A MONTH. |
| 11:25 | < Ced> | Ever since, dead cat jokes are all around in our apt. |
| 11:28 | < Ced> | Luckily enough, she isn't my girl. |
| 11:28 | < Ced> | She is Danni's girl. |
| 11:30 | < Ced> | Dukayn: Why would I shoot 4 of your 'frames, and leave you with activations? |
| 11:30 | < Dukayn> | Didn't say you would/should, just didn't have time to read the post properly as I was on my mobile and at the in-law's |
| 11:31 | < Ced> | Ah, okay. |
| 11:31 | < Ced> | Well, I dealt a total of 12 damage. |
| 11:31 | < Ced> | 6 to each 'frame. |
| 11:31 | < Dukayn> | I saw a whole lotta shit getting shot at and wasn't sure what had been hit. |
| 11:31 | < Ced> | First, the lone Arty north, then the Def 1 Spawk. |
| 11:31 | < Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 11:31 | < Ced> | Also, I confirmed that you did get the station. |
| 11:31 | < Dukayn> | You got a lot of 6's for damage, you lucky bastard |
| 11:32 | < Ced> | Oh, just look at the rolls. |
| 11:32 | < Dukayn> | I have |
| 11:32 | < Ced> | 6 6 6 1 1 6. |
| 11:32 | < Ced> | That one is dirty. |
| 11:32 | < Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 11:32 | < Ced> | But, yeah. |
| 11:32 | < Dukayn> | I was really boned from the start, I fucked up placement. |
| 11:32 | < Ced> | Yah. :D |
| 11:32 | < Dukayn> | HEY IT'S MY FIRST GAME :P |
| 11:32 | < Ced> | But you saved it a bit with the Spawks. |
| 11:32 | < Dukayn> | And now, pancakes |
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| 11:32 | < Ced> | Aww. |
| 11:33 | < Ced> | Later! |
| 11:33 | < Ced> | I'll go grab a bite. |
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| 11:47 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Ced23Ric] by ChanServ |
| 11:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ah, sweet. |
| 11:47 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | This is Duke's wife (Storm), i am commandeering my husband for the evening, he'll be back later. |
| 11:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | WHAT. |
| 11:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | GIVE HIM BACK. |
| 11:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | EVIL WITCH. D: |
| 11:47 | < McMartin_> | It's her perogative |
| 11:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, but I am bored right now, and Dukey's online time is usually sufficient to get me through the day. :( |
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| 11:49 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | i apologise, I'll return him no worse for wear in a couple of hours |
| 11:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | WELL. |
| 11:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | AT LEAST WEAR HIM OUT A LITTLE. |
| 11:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | Poor sod. Get's stolen away and has nothing of it. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wait. |
| 11:52 | < afny> | Poor sod indeed, who has a partner that enjoys spending time with him and also seems to be successfully raising a family with him. I PITY THE FOOL. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Her name's Storm. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | I TAKE IT ALL BACK. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | YOU ARE A CLASSY LADY. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | I hope this reaches her. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Caps is as loud as I can get. |
| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | And yes, afny. You understand me. |
| 11:53 | < afny> | so I'm going to need some feedback |
| 11:53 | < afny> | first, you saw my "Platypus", right? |
| 11:53 | < afny> | have you lamented its crayon colors yet |
| 11:56 | < afny> | I ASK because |
| 11:56 | < afny> | my new frame |
| 11:56 | < afny> | uses NO COLOR AT ALL |
| 11:57 | < afny> | and a ludicrously sized gun. |
| 11:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | SHow me. |
| 11:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | And read this: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4387320_460s.jpg |
| 11:59 | < afny> | the NEW one |
| 11:59 | < afny> | isnt photographed |
| 11:59 | < afny> | working on a 4th systrm |
| 11:59 | < afny> | -r+e |
| 12:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright. |
| 12:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | What mounts do you have, what system do you need? |
| 12:01 | < afny> | uhh |
| 12:01 | < afny> | two shoulder mounts already taken, presumably |
| 12:01 | < afny> | by boosters (1g) |
| 12:01 | < afny> | a giant fucking gun |
| 12:01 | < afny> | probably 2rA+d8 |
| 12:01 | < afny> | so one system left |
| 12:01 | < afny> | and I'm undecided |
| 12:01 | < afny> | could be a sniper scope I suppose, but Dukayn sort of made a good point about optimal ranges |
| 12:01 | < afny> | so many I'll give him a B |
| 12:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Give him a spot? D: |
| 12:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make him a Fast Big Gun. |
| 12:02 | < afny> | what |
| 12:02 | < afny> | is that exactly |
| 12:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wait, he's arty, not DF. |
| 12:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | FBG is DF DF Y G. |
| 12:02 | < afny> | yeah he's arty |
| 12:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yours is AAG. |
| 12:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Um. |
| 12:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | *scratches head* |
| 12:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, sure, B. |
| 12:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | *shrug* |
| 12:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | A Y Y G is so much more synergistic. :D |
| 12:03 | < afny> | hm |
| 12:03 | < afny> | I could do that I guess |
| 12:03 | < afny> | it's just I already have a DF Y Y B on the team |
| 12:04 | < afny> | the back hardmount is totally open |
| 12:04 | < afny> | for a sensor array |
| 12:04 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | change DF YYB to DFDFYG |
| 12:04 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | make arty AYYG |
| 12:04 | < afny> | nergh |
| 12:04 | < afny> | but I need that B |
| 12:04 | < afny> | he's got a bunch of armor |
| 12:04 | | * Dukayn[AFK] shrugs |
| 12:05 | | * Dukayn[AFK] goes back to pancakes |
| 12:05 | < afny> | OH |
| 12:05 | < afny> | hey it's you |
| 12:05 | < afny> | I thought you were Ced that whole time. |
| 12:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hehe. |
| 12:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make it A Y Y B then. |
| 12:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | And DF Y Y B. |
| 12:06 | < afny> | nah nah the armor is on the DF Y Y B guy |
| 12:06 | < afny> | this guy doesn't have armor |
| 12:06 | < afny> | he's not committed to a B |
| 12:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, okay. |
| 12:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | So A Y Y G and DF Y Y B. |
| 12:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Totally works. |
| 12:06 | < afny> | okay |
| 12:06 | < afny> | fuck |
| 12:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fast Arty and Smart Tough Grunt. |
| 12:06 | < afny> | I don't like this gun at al though |
| 12:06 | < afny> | +l |
| 12:07 | < afny> | I tried to make a sniper using the same gun base as this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7335423564/ |
| 12:07 | < afny> | but it's just too big |
| 12:07 | < afny> | too bulky around the magazine |
| 12:08 | < afny> | and it doesn't taper properly |
| 12:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | No ... no it don't. |
| 12:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hey, I got an idea. |
| 12:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make the mag straight. |
| 12:08 | < afny> | yeah, it was |
| 12:08 | < afny> | well actually |
| 12:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Take the butt off. |
| 12:09 | < afny> | it was just a 1x1 |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | But a hammer / mallet there. |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, 1x1 is fine. |
| 12:09 | < afny> | don't have any of those |
| 12:09 | < afny> | I wish |
| 12:09 | < afny> | I wanted a skeleton stock |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Balls. |
| 12:09 | < afny> | thought about a pneumatic t piece thing |
| 12:09 | < afny> | but the color is wrong |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | *rubs chin* |
| 12:09 | < afny> | hm |
| 12:09 | < afny> | maybe the barrel was just bad |
| 12:09 | < afny> | let me try again |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Let me tinker for a second. |
| 12:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | What do you have for scopes? |
| 12:09 | < afny> | uh |
| 12:09 | < afny> | right now I have one of those |
| 12:10 | < afny> | spotlight things |
| 12:10 | < afny> | I dont know what to call it |
| 12:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Butt? |
| 12:10 | < afny> | it's got a peg, then a cone |
| 12:10 | < afny> | nah it's like a butt |
| 12:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
| 12:10 | < afny> | but it's got a cylinder instead of a clippable bar |
| 12:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | A megaphone. |
| 12:10 | < afny> | and then its got |
| 12:10 | < afny> | YEAH |
| 12:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 12:10 | < afny> | and then it's got a 1x1 round brick on the not tapered end |
| 12:10 | < afny> | it's huge |
| 12:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme fiddle with it. |
| 12:11 | < afny> | removing the butt helps |
| 12:11 | < afny> | i'm going to look for something |
| 12:11 | < afny> | I could use a wrench maybe |
| 12:12 | < afny> | ah balls |
| 12:12 | < afny> | but the stud on that end is closed |
| 12:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Do you have any lightsabre blades? |
| 12:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | 3L or 4L shafts? |
| 12:14 | < afny> | I don't know what a 3l or 4l shaft is |
| 12:14 | < afny> | I have two black lightsaber blades but I'd SORT of like to conserve them |
| 12:14 | < afny> | if it's ASTONISHING then I'll use one |
| 12:14 | < afny> | I've got it looking decent right now but |
| 12:14 | < afny> | it still might be too big |
| 12:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay. |
| 12:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme show you. |
| 12:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | 3L = 3 length |
| 12:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | 4L = 4 Length |
| 12:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | shaft = light sabe baldes |
| 12:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | *blades |
| 12:15 | < afny> | oh |
| 12:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Do you have a bunch of tile clips? |
| 12:15 | < afny> | not enough to use more than one or two on a gun |
| 12:15 | < afny> | I need to order more |
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| 12:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ugh, this sucks. |
| 12:17 | < afny> | haha yep |
| 12:17 | < afny> | well right now it looks good |
| 12:17 | < afny> | t |
| 12:17 | < afny> | sort of... |
| 12:17 | < afny> | i'll get a pic in a sec and see if you can improve it |
| 12:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sniper_base.png |
| 12:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | I apologize in advance. |
| 12:18 | < afny> | haha, with the exception of that DISGUSTING barrel |
| 12:18 | < afny> | it's pretty close to what I had |
| 12:19 | < afny> | OH SHIT |
| 12:19 | < afny> | I think I got it |
| 12:19 | < afny> | it involves TWO megaphones |
| 12:19 | < afny> | do you think the scope |
| 12:20 | < afny> | should have a 1x1 round on the end? |
| 12:20 | < afny> | like the forward facing lens? |
| 12:21 | < afny> | oh god it's still fucking huge jesus |
| 12:22 | < afny> | if this frame could aim across its torso it'd be fine |
| 12:22 | < afny> | one of my chubs could do it |
| 12:22 | < afny> | maybe mgns just weren't build to snipe |
| 12:23 | < afny> | fuck |
| 12:23 | < afny> | urgh |
| 12:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because they're dinky. |
| 12:24 | < afny> | nah, it's just because their arms can't cross their chest |
| 12:24 | < afny> | but neither can normal chubs I guess |
| 12:25 | < afny> | I'll show you how it looks on a chub |
| 12:27 | < afny> | maybe I should just make this guy a soldier |
| 12:27 | < afny> | and make another chub do the sniping |
| 12:29 | < afny> | my card reader isn't working |
| 12:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Unacceptable. |
| 12:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make it work. |
| 12:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now. |
| 12:30 | < afny> | I DON'T KNOW HOW |
| 12:30 | < afny> | I'm booting my pc and I'll just do it there |
| 12:31 | < afny> | FUCK there was a windows update |
| 12:31 | < afny> | THIS WILL TAKE YEARS |
| 12:35 | < afny> | it took years |
| 12:36 | < afny> | http://i.imgur.com/Y2KTs.jpg |
| 12:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sec. |
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| 12:39 | < Ceddobear> | Mhmm. |
| 12:39 | < Ceddobear> | Looks fair enough. |
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| 12:39 | < afny> | yeah, but only on that chub |
| 12:39 | | Ceddobear is now known as Ced23Ric |
| 12:39 | < afny> | http://i.imgur.com/8DqUt.jpg |
| 12:39 | < afny> | just held in one hand straight out |
| 12:39 | < afny> | is not a good look for it |
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| 12:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 12:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, let him snipe. |
| 12:40 | < afny> | he's in ANOTHER COMPANY |
| 12:40 | < afny> | and also that's a lady. |
| 12:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Transfered. |
| 12:40 | < afny> | ehhh |
| 12:40 | < afny> | MAYBE |
| 12:40 | < afny> | but the thing is like |
| 12:40 | < afny> | already thematically tied |
| 12:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | She's cheap. |
| 12:40 | < afny> | to the yellow chub in that company |
| 12:40 | < afny> | she IS a mercenary |
| 12:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | They broke up. |
| 12:40 | < afny> | I haven't really decided on the lore for these mgns |
| 12:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | They need a girl. |
| 12:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Her. |
| 12:41 | < afny> | like in Malcolm's fluff MgNs are purpose built military frontline fighters |
| 12:41 | < afny> | but I'm thinking |
| 12:41 | < afny> | repurposed police frames used by the free colonies? |
| 12:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Stolen. |
| 12:41 | < afny> | these guys are definitely like |
| 12:41 | < afny> | special ops irregulars |
| 12:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Stolen. Terrorists. |
| 12:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hit & RUn. |
| 12:42 | < afny> | okay okay |
| 12:42 | < afny> | so if I make the arty a hi-leg |
| 12:42 | < afny> | that solves the sniper problem |
| 12:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | A Y Y G/B ? |
| 12:43 | < afny> | I'm actually thinking maybe an arty, a split arty/df, G, B |
| 12:43 | < afny> | Not sure |
| 12:43 | < afny> | gotta finish this colorless mgn first |
| 12:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | In THAT case, try the USF. |
| 12:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | A/DF Y Y G. |
| 12:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Two of them. |
| 12:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | They work nicely in pairs. |
| 12:44 | < afny> | I might do one of those and one triple split systems + B frame |
| 12:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | What's a triple split? |
| 12:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
| 12:47 | < afny> | three split A/D range systems |
| 12:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | That dreadful A A/DF DF B 'frame. |
| 12:47 | < afny> | six red dice |
| 12:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | What a waste. |
| 12:47 | < afny> | it's so nice |
| 12:47 | < afny> | SO NICE |
| 12:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | So useless. |
| 12:47 | < afny> | why you be hatin' |
| 12:47 | < afny> | show your work |
| 12:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because it throws 1.5 systems away. |
| 12:47 | < afny> | only because they don't synergize in turn |
| 12:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | And it has only one ablative wound before losing efficiency. |
| 12:47 | < afny> | it's a toolbox kit |
| 12:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | And WHEN that ablative wound is gone, it becomes either slow or fragile. |
| 12:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | Toolboxes lose. |
| 12:48 | < afny> | true, but it's supposed to remain in cover and always roll a high defense |
| 12:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | Toolboxes have an extremely low CDT. |
| 12:49 | < afny> | okay, okay, we should back up |
| 12:49 | < afny> | i'm not even working on the arty guy yet |
| 12:49 | | * Ced23Ric backs up. |
| 12:49 | < afny> | so |
| 12:49 | < afny> | frame |
| 12:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | So! |
| 12:49 | < afny> | with |
| 12:49 | < afny> | 1G |
| 12:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yes! |
| 12:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay. |
| 12:49 | < afny> | the rest of the company so far is |
| 12:49 | < afny> | a DF/Y/B/G guy |
| 12:49 | < afny> | a DF/2Y/B |
| 12:50 | < afny> | and one completely unloaded tachi |
| 12:50 | < afny> | this new guy is committed to 1G |
| 12:50 | < afny> | unless there is some express reason why he shouldn't |
| 12:52 | < afny> | if this company is MOSTLY DF based |
| 12:52 | < afny> | with one melee unit and one arty unit |
| 12:52 | < afny> | do I need a guy with 2 DF systems |
| 12:52 | < afny> | it seems like it's really better to bank on spot |
| 12:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright |
| 12:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | The melee unit is rubbish. |
| 12:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | If anything, he gives your targets cover. |
| 12:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | So you end up shooting your own guy. |
| 12:53 | < afny> | gotta have at least one melee weapon on one of my soldiers |
| 12:53 | < afny> | he doesn't have to be dedicated melee |
| 12:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make it DF H Y B, then. |
| 12:53 | < afny> | that makes sense |
| 12:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | Spot's crucial. |
| 12:53 | < afny> | yeah, agreed |
| 12:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay, DF DF Y G works. |
| 12:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Tried it out, it's a cool little 'frame. |
| 12:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can see it in my last battle report. had two of those. |
| 12:54 | < afny> | I could actually take the shield off my red guy and do two of those pretty easily |
| 12:55 | < afny> | or do it with one of my grunts |
| 12:55 | < afny> | I already have three ace frames in this company |
| 12:55 | < afny> | fuck I haven't built a single frame that ISN'T an ace, even the repurposed construction mechs |
| 12:55 | < afny> | I can't help myself. I understand the importance of negative space, but shit. |
| 12:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | :d |
| 12:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | What's negative space? |
| 12:55 | < afny> | uh like in art |
| 12:56 | < afny> | if you leave a lot of your background just flat |
| 12:56 | < afny> | like a flat color |
| 12:56 | < afny> | or in design, if your logo is just a small nike swoosh on a big white billboard |
| 12:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | brb. |
| 12:56 | < afny> | the white is negative space. |
| 12:56 | < afny> | so the equivalent of negative space in a company is like, one really sweet ace frame and a bunch of gray frames with just a colored shoulder, to make the ace frame seem EVEN COOLER because it's unique. |
| 12:56 | < afny> | also k, me too. |
| 12:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ah, gotcha. |
| 12:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | See, I don't do that with colour. |
| 12:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | For example, my companies are very ... tied in with each other. They differ in shapes. |
| 12:59 | < afny> | yeah, but you build all in one color |
| 13:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's what I mean. |
| 13:00 | < afny> | like that's a valid option. the art metaphor would be like a quilt |
| 13:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | My "negative space" is a shape. |
| 13:00 | < afny> | yeah, but mine is like |
| 13:00 | < afny> | fucking CUBISM already |
| 13:00 | < afny> | I need something to balance it out |
| 13:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 13:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, red shoulders look great. |
| 13:01 | < afny> | don't have the tiles for it |
| 13:01 | < afny> | but I'll do something in that vein |
| 13:01 | < afny> | gotta decide what frames to use for the grunts |
| 13:01 | < afny> | 1 or 2 hi-legs |
| 13:01 | < afny> | then maybe chubs? not sure |
| 13:01 | < afny> | since all the frames are stolen anyway I can pretty much do whatever |
| 13:02 | < afny> | might mod the Warhorse actually |
| 13:02 | < afny> | a warhorse with Slammer arms |
| 13:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 13:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, the thing is ... |
| 13:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... if you don't decide and clean up, you will always have hodge podge looking companies. |
| 13:03 | < afny> | well my first company is EXTREMELY hodge podge |
| 13:03 | < afny> | but I think I'm actually going to redo a lot of it |
| 13:04 | < afny> | this company I'm building from the ground up to look unified |
| 13:04 | < afny> | well |
| 13:04 | < afny> | unified in a crazy way |
| 13:04 | < afny> | but at least I'm considering it instead of just building wildly |
| 13:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Stuff's expensive, man. |
| 13:05 | < afny> | what |
| 13:06 | < afny> | LEGO? |
| 13:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | But then again, I got 6 full companies out of less than 800 bucks. |
| 13:06 | < afny> | well I've only spent 55~ so far and I only plan on spending like 10 more |
| 13:06 | < afny> | just to buy a fucking buttload of clips |
| 13:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | If I would be playing Warhammer again ... |
| 13:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... i'd be halfway done with ONE army. |
| 13:06 | < afny> | yeah that shit is RIDICULOUS |
| 13:06 | < afny> | and not nearly as much fun |
| 13:07 | < afny> | the assembly at least |
| 13:07 | < afny> | I'm all about creative control |
| 13:07 | < afny> | you can't even choose how to paint your army if you want it to be canon |
| 13:07 | < afny> | I mean, okay, you pick the faction, but still |
| 13:07 | < afny> | okay, my challenge now |
| 13:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dude, I am all about customizing. :D |
| 13:07 | < afny> | a sick pistol |
| 13:07 | < afny> | yeah, and as much customizing as you can do in warhammer |
| 13:08 | < afny> | (like what can you do, add medals to your space marines? I don't even know) |
| 13:08 | < afny> | in this, you can customize to the NTH. |
| 13:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme show you. |
| 13:08 | < afny> | I want a TINY pistol with a big compensator |
| 13:08 | < afny> | I think more megaphones |
| 13:08 | < afny> | is the answer |
| 13:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Ultramarine_Land_Raider.gif |
| 13:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Normal Landraider. |
| 13:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/lr1_13.png |
| 13:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | My Landraider. |
| 13:10 | < afny> | are all the unpainted parts upgrades? |
| 13:10 | < afny> | or like custom bits |
| 13:11 | < afny> | that looks expensive as FUCK |
| 13:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | Those are all custom bits. |
| 13:12 | < afny> | again I say |
| 13:12 | < afny> | EXPENSIVE AS FUCK |
| 13:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, bits I carved, cut, shaped and made to fit. |
| 13:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/6/29/40322_md-Space%20Marines,%20Super ior,%20Ultramarines,%20Work%20In%20Progress.jpg |
| 13:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Normal Rhino. |
| 13:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/rh4_9.png |
| 13:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | My Rhino |
| 13:13 | < afny> | I like the sleeping bag |
| 13:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/rh2_3.png |
| 13:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Other Rhino, unpainted. |
| 13:14 | < afny> | 404d |
| 13:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/p500/rh3_2.png |
| 13:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | One was ammo carrier, the other was field repairs. |
| 13:17 | < afny> | the other thing that this game kills warhammer at |
| 13:17 | < afny> | if you get bored of your strategy or your loadout in warhammer |
| 13:17 | < afny> | there's only so much you can do about it |
| 13:17 | < afny> | in this game, even if you've spent 800 dollars and only ever played each copany one way |
| 13:17 | < afny> | +m... |
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| 13:18 | < afny> | you can break them down and redo every one in a day or so |
| 13:18 | < afny> | and not be out any money |
| 13:18 | < afny> | hey Mitten |
| 13:18 | < MittenNinja> | heya |
| 13:19 | | Dukayn[AFK] is now known as Dukayn |
| 13:20 | < afny> | brb, must make an excursion to the technic pile |
| 13:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya Greg. |
| 13:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | WB Dukey. |
| 13:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Also: Move faster, Greg. |
| 13:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | We're done one turn in our PbP. :D |
| 13:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, Trilly get's one shot without any spots (derp) with his Arty 'frame. |
| 13:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Duke: Please do me a favor. |
| 13:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you have a free W, spot something. |
| 13:22 | < Dukayn> | Pretty sure I spotted everywhere |
| 13:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, yeah. |
| 13:22 | < Dukayn> | SO NER |
| 13:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just saying it to make sure. |
| 13:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because Trilly spotted only one thing. |
| 13:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | His belly button. |
| 13:22 | < Dukayn> | silly Trilly |
| 13:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | And he stares at it. |
| 13:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | The problem is, he relies on schoon. |
| 13:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | And schoon's oversight is about as far as I can spit. |
| 13:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have a dry mouth today. |
| 13:25 | < afny> | back |
| 13:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | WB. |
| 13:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey: No hard feelings, eh? |
| 13:26 | < Dukayn> | Course not |
| 13:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | You were a primed target. |
| 13:26 | < afny> | found several of the piece I was looking for surprisingly |
| 13:26 | < Dukayn> | It's battle |
| 13:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | And the most tactical capable opponent. |
| 13:26 | < Dukayn> | And I had what, 1 guy in cover? |
| 13:26 | < Dukayn> | and shit D rolls |
| 13:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. You were asking for it. |
| 13:26 | < Dukayn> | I DIDN'T ASK FOR SHIT D ROLLS :P |
| 13:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Your luck Trilly was so HELLBENT on G1. |
| 13:27 | < Dukayn> | Yeah WTF was that |
| 13:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | "ATK 5, DEF 5 ... DO IT!" |
| 13:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | I dunno, must've been rage. |
| 13:27 | < Dukayn> | Also, Move 5 vs Move 4, already out of DF range before you move... THAT'S NEVER GONNA WORK |
| 13:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | I imagine the UMFL troops to just fire blindly after G1, as they are getting chewed up. |
| 13:27 | < Dukayn> | He should have shot G3 |
| 13:27 | < Dukayn> | It was out of cover to all his frames |
| 13:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Completely ignoring all fire. |
| 13:28 | < Dukayn> | and had a shit D roll |
| 13:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | And D1. |
| 13:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 13:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well. :] |
| 13:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | I took care of that. |
| 13:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was a bit proud of my turnflow, to be honest. |
| 13:29 | < Dukayn> | It was good |
| 13:29 | < Dukayn> | Fucking miserable to read as I see my frames just get blown away bit by bit :p |
| 13:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah ... I felt kinda bad. |
| 13:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | But then again, I felt also good. :D |
| 13:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because it worked so smoothly. |
| 13:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | But I have a 1 DEF 'frame, too. |
| 13:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Maybe Trilly sees it and fires. |
| 13:31 | < Dukayn> | Still, had to be better than Trilly reading that one-shot attack |
| 13:31 | < Dukayn> | "WAIT WAT" |
| 13:32 | < Dukayn> | "YOU FUCKER" |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Kchchch. |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was hoping for a oneshot. |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | So I could chew through one of Trilly's 'frames aswell. |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | But it didn't happen. |
| 13:32 | < Dukayn> | I was surprised that the 1DEF frame didn't get one |
| 13:32 | < Dukayn> | You had plenty of dice to do it with |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, yeah. |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | I dropped 3 attacks on 3 DEF. |
| 13:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | And 2 on 1 DEF. |
| 13:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | 14 DMG dice on 1 DEF, became 6 DMG. |
| 13:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | 16 DMG dice on G2, became 6 DMG. |
| 13:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | No, wait. |
| 13:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gale-A and Spawk-A. Whatevs. |
| 13:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nope, Gale-B. |
| 13:34 | < Dukayn> | yeah B |
| 13:34 | < Dukayn> | up top |
| 13:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | But, yeah. |
| 13:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Took 14 and 16 DMG dice. |
| 13:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Which is above average, though. |
| 13:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | EV is 18 DMG dice result in 6 DMG. |
| 13:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | And this is why Spot is damage. :D |
| 13:35 | < Dukayn> | well, MORE damage |
| 13:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | By EV, there is no damage without Spot. |
| 13:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | Only d8 make damage without spot. |
| 13:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | But only 1 in 6 hits deals damage. |
| 13:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | So it's really fucking low. |
| 13:36 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 13:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | For any reliable damage, you need Spot. |
| 13:37 | < Dukayn> | oh absolutely |
| 13:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wonder what I am gonna do next Turn. |
| 13:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll be right up again. |
| 13:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | See, I don't wanna take you out of the game this early. |
| 13:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | But tactical doctrine says so. |
| 13:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Onm the other hand, if I get rid of Trilly ... *rubs chin* |
| 13:38 | < Dukayn> | At this stage I'm still ahead, yes? |
| 13:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh well. I shall see. Trilly has nothing of considerable power anymore. |
| 13:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah. |
| 13:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am at 35, you are at 30. |
| 13:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | +6 -12 |
| 13:38 | < Dukayn> | Ah ok |
| 13:38 | < Dukayn> | Cool cool |
| 13:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was 1 point behind ya from the start. |
| 13:38 | < Dukayn> | I didn't see you post a new Init summary |
| 13:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme do that. |
| 13:39 | < afny> | hm |
| 13:39 | < afny> | anyone have any cool ideas for a 1Y system that's backmounted |
| 13:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1311&p=10030#p10030 |
| 13:40 | < afny> | and goes well with a very diagonal/angular frame |
| 13:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Afny: Maybe you like what I gave Vale. |
| 13:40 | < afny> | rink |
| 13:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/13g_nr_2_1_b3.png |
| 13:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Bottom right. |
| 13:41 | < Dukayn> | Ah right, I thought you and I started lower, Ced. That's why I thought 30 kept me in front. |
| 13:41 | < afny> | I DO like the integration of radios |
| 13:41 | < afny> | it doesn't look very aerodynamic, though |
| 13:41 | < afny> | this guy is a jump jetter so it has to be sleek |
| 13:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Kk,. |
| 13:41 | < Dukayn> | got a pic of the frame? |
| 13:41 | < Dukayn> | that'd help |
| 13:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukayn: Your AV is 6, for least 'frames. You have 6 assets, so 36. |
| 13:42 | < Dukayn> | Yeah yeah I get it, I just forgot what the starting values were |
| 13:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | My AV is 5, for same systems as you, but most 'frames like Trilly - 7 assets, AV 5, 35 Ini. |
| 13:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | I bid pretty hard on that one. |
| 13:43 | < Dukayn> | I bid too hard :/ |
| 13:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah you did. |
| 13:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | BRB, smokey times. |
| 13:45 | < afny> | Dukayn, I don't have a picture |
| 13:45 | < afny> | my card reader is fucking up and it would take me like 8 minutes to get it to work so I'm trying to finish the frame before I commit to a photoshoot |
| 13:45 | < afny> | it's a vicious cycle basically. |
| 13:46 | < Dukayn> | ah |
| 13:46 | < Dukayn> | ok so it has to be backmounted? |
| 13:46 | < afny> | well it's an MgN |
| 13:46 | < afny> | and the shoulders are already full |
| 13:47 | < afny> | the mgn doesn't have plentiful hardmounts really |
| 13:48 | < afny> | hm, think this might work |
| 13:48 | < afny> | a tile clip, a grate 1x2 tile |
| 13:48 | < afny> | and one of those little claw holder things |
| 13:51 | < Dukayn> | cool |
| 13:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | I just realized. |
| 13:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | My MFZ building is over. |
| 13:52 | < afny> | lies |
| 13:52 | < Dukayn> | whut |
| 13:52 | < afny> | you still have parts in the mail |
| 13:52 | < afny> | and even when you don't |
| 13:52 | < afny> | building is never over |
| 13:52 | < afny> | until you stop tinkering |
| 13:52 | < afny> | and you will only stop tinkering when you stop playing |
| 13:52 | < Dukayn> | fun with poses! http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Nightingale_Aiming.png |
| 13:54 | < afny> | I did a sniper pose too |
| 13:54 | < afny> | http://i.imgur.com/Y2KTs.jpg |
| 13:54 | < afny> | I like that technic part in there |
| 13:54 | < Dukayn> | I saw :) |
| 13:54 | < afny> | I really want to use that in a rifle |
| 13:54 | < afny> | the dual thing |
| 13:55 | < afny> | also |
| 13:55 | < afny> | what is that little thing hanging off the bottom of your gun? |
| 13:55 | < Dukayn> | It's supposed to have 1x1 round bricks on it under the barrel |
| 13:55 | < Dukayn> | but, LDD |
| 13:55 | < afny> | fuckn LDD |
| 13:55 | < Dukayn> | the grey thing? spacegun part in LDD. magazine I guess. ask LF0W, it's his design :P |
| 13:55 | < afny> | I love the giant wrenches on the ears |
| 13:56 | < afny> | has the nightingale always had those |
| 13:56 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 13:56 | < afny> | might have to steal that, I only have ONE of those wrenches and I need a use for it |
| 13:56 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 13:56 | < Dukayn> | it's an easy way to represent a Y |
| 13:56 | < afny> | it looks really sleek on a topheavy frame like that |
| 13:56 | < Dukayn> | you could use one for Y, two for YY |
| 13:56 | < Dukayn> | on this, one Y is the antennae, the other is the rifle scope |
| 13:57 | < afny> | fuck |
| 13:57 | < afny> | I have two rifle scopes on this guy |
| 13:57 | < afny> | but the Y is a backmount |
| 13:57 | < afny> | NO LOGIC |
| 13:57 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 13:57 | < afny> | okay so |
| 13:57 | < afny> | FRAME DONE |
| 13:57 | < afny> | now the big question |
| 13:57 | < afny> | do I add an accent color |
| 13:57 | < Dukayn> | see the rifle scope on that blue Chub of yours is EASILY a Y |
| 13:57 | < afny> | currently it's COMPLETELY COLORLESS |
| 13:57 | < Dukayn> | it's HUGE |
| 13:57 | < afny> | but I could add ONE LIME GREEN ROUND 1x1 |
| 13:57 | < Dukayn> | so all bley? |
| 13:57 | < afny> | and it would change the whole FUCKING GAME |
| 13:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | DO IT. |
| 13:58 | < Dukayn> | haha yeah just 1 lime round plate |
| 13:58 | < Dukayn> | that's your accent |
| 13:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Tiny accent. |
| 13:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Afny, do you need more lime green? |
| 13:58 | < afny> | believe me, it really changes it a lot |
| 13:58 | < afny> | dunno, probably |
| 13:58 | < afny> | I only have 4 round 1x1s and I accidentally chewed one |
| 13:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Do you want a full bag of lime green? |
| 13:58 | < afny> | well I didn't chew it accidentally, but I broke it with my teeth |
| 13:58 | < afny> | MAYBE. You got sum? |
| 13:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | "some", he says. |
| 13:59 | < afny> | I could pack up sum choice OL' GREY bits maybe |
| 13:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have a bag, the size of two pringles boxes, full of lime green. |
| 13:59 | < afny> | what |
| 13:59 | < afny> | the |
| 13:59 | < afny> | fuck |
| 13:59 | < afny> | why did you order that much |
| 13:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | rounds, bricks, tiles, slopes, hinges, curved slopes, plates ... |
| 13:59 | < afny> | oh that reminds me, I have to mail Soren his gay bar attendee before me moves |
| 13:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | I dunno. |
| 13:59 | < afny> | it's a sweet color I admit |
| 13:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | It kinda accumulated. |
| 14:00 | < afny> | OH WAIT I do have two other lime green parts |
| 14:00 | < afny> | a 2x2 plate with halfcircle and hole |
| 14:00 | < afny> | and a 1x2 plate with two bars |
| 14:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | I need grey 1xX bricks. |
| 14:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | For cover. |
| 14:00 | < afny> | shit man I need those too |
| 14:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | And trans pink/blue/yellow parts. |
| 14:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | For firing effects. |
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| 14:00 | < afny> | II have some trans yellow I think |
| 14:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, keep it. :) |
| 14:00 | < afny> | none of those sweet flower things though |
| 14:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | I figured. |
| 14:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, you know what. |
| 14:01 | < afny> | well I'll find some stuff that I know you don't have that will fit your aesthetic |
| 14:01 | < Dukayn> | So do you really add firing effects to your frames when they shoot ingame? |
| 14:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Let me get home, and I'll tell yah what I can do for you. |
| 14:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukayn: I will probably just have some on there for display purposes. |
| 14:01 | < afny> | they're fucking so much fun |
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| 14:02 | < afny> | I have one white flower piece and I just get giddy when I put it behind a missile or grenade launch |
| 14:02 | < afny> | I'm like WHOA. |
| 14:02 | < afny> | That's a fucking missile. |
| 14:02 | < Ceddobear> | [15:01:20] <@Ced23Ric> Let me get home, and I'll tell yah what I can do for you. |
| 14:02 | < Ceddobear> | [15:01:33] <@Ced23Ric> Dukayn: I will probably just have some on there for display purposes. |
| 14:02 | < Ceddobear> | [15:01:52] <@Ced23Ric> Got 4 yellow snowflakes, some pink flowers, blue crystals ... |
| 14:02 | < afny> | oh those snowflakes |
| 14:02 | < afny> | are SO sick. |
| 14:02 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah, I got 4 in purple, too. |
| 14:02 | < Ceddobear> | Totes gonna have my Ijad use those. |
| 14:03 | < Ceddobear> | Afny, do you have any tree parts? |
| 14:03 | < Ceddobear> | Like, palmtree prong thinges, trunks, leaves? |
| 14:03 | < Ceddobear> | Those Knight-set ivy things? |
| 14:03 | < Ceddobear> | Don't really like the singular tree bits. |
| 14:04 | < afny> | uhhh like that little bit I used in the Bistromath? |
| 14:04 | < Ceddobear> | Yeah, that! |
| 14:04 | < afny> | I might have a couple |
| 14:04 | < afny> | gotta dig |
| 14:04 | < Ceddobear> | Well, quid pro quo. |
| 14:04 | < afny> | most of that stuff is in a box with my baseplates |
| 14:04 | < afny> | and I don't look in there |
| 14:04 | < afny> | I never go where the baseplates are. |
| 14:04 | < afny> | brb taking photos |
| 14:04 | < Ceddobear> | I can offer you some colours. |
| 14:04 | < Ceddobear> | Yellow, Orange, Lime. |
| 14:05 | < Ceddobear> | Have a boatload. Never gonna use them. |
| 14:05 | < Ceddobear> | Bought because I thought I would. |
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| 14:27 | < afny> | well I had about a billion tabs open |
| 14:27 | < afny> | and I just closed them all |
| 14:28 | < afny> | I hope none of them were important |
| 14:29 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 14:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Do you have Firefox? |
| 14:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | "Open recently closed tabs." |
| 14:31 | < afny> | nah I did it on purpose |
| 14:31 | < afny> | it was chrome |
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| 14:32 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7156137057/lightbox/ |
| 14:32 | < afny> | the company so far: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7156137513/in/photostream/ |
| 14:35 | < Ceddobear> | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4367624_460s.jpg |
| 14:35 | < afny> | :_: |
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| 14:36 | < Ced23Ric> | Wow. |
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| 14:36 | < Dukayn> | Nice |
| 14:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | How did you do that, afny? |
| 14:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because ... those look really good. |
| 14:37 | < afny> | I'm telling you, it's the MgN |
| 14:37 | < afny> | you can't fuck it up |
| 14:37 | < afny> | I'm gonna pick a good one and linkback in all my pictures |
| 14:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dat color accent. |
| 14:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well done. |
| 14:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Looks fucking great, man. |
| 14:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | NOT EVEN DINKY. |
| 14:38 | < afny> | yeah I'm glad I decided to do the lime green |
| 14:38 | < afny> | it would've beenbad without it |
| 14:38 | < afny> | that took most of my white that isn't |
| 14:38 | < afny> | yellowed with age |
| 14:38 | < afny> | I get so excited when I find a white piece |
| 14:39 | < afny> | and I turn it over in my hand and discover |
| 14:39 | < afny> | NO |
| 14:39 | < afny> | this isn't white |
| 14:39 | < afny> | this is SUN PISS. |
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| 14:39 | < Dukayn> | haha |
| 14:39 | < Dukayn> | so I took the tyres out of my Chub |
| 14:40 | < afny> | The ones on the upper arms? |
| 14:40 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 14:40 | < afny> | I approve! I really don't like those tires in anything |
| 14:40 | < Dukayn> | I like 'em in some stuff |
| 14:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | WHAT. |
| 14:40 | < Dukayn> | And I wanted to see what a beefed up Chub would look like |
| 14:40 | < Dukayn> | turns out, ridiculous :P |
| 14:40 | < afny> | I don't know Ced it's something about the texture |
| 14:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/xf13g_eldernaga_b2.png |
| 14:41 | < afny> | it just breaks up the outline too much |
| 14:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | My tires flow. |
| 14:41 | < afny> | I like the FEET tires |
| 14:41 | < afny> | those aren't the tires I mean |
| 14:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/xf13g_eldernaga_b3.png |
| 14:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, okay. |
| 14:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | (But still, look how they flow.) |
| 14:41 | < Dukayn> | He means the arm tyre |
| 14:41 | < afny> | yeah, I mean, the shoulder ones aren't BAD in the naga |
| 14:41 | < afny> | they're a little more integrated |
| 14:41 | < Dukayn> | Which works in Mittens stuff |
| 14:42 | < Dukayn> | cos he has them everywhere :P |
| 14:42 | < afny> | hey, those plates/tiles |
| 14:42 | < afny> | that are right above the feet tires |
| 14:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/spawk_b6.png |
| 14:42 | < afny> | do they have their own studs? |
| 14:42 | < afny> | or do they receive studs |
| 14:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Which one now`? |
| 14:42 | < afny> | um |
| 14:43 | < afny> | the little 1x2 slopes w/grates |
| 14:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Those behave like grill tiles. |
| 14:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Only that they are slopey. |
| 14:43 | < afny> | okay, then tell me |
| 14:43 | < afny> | what the fuck is up with this MgN |
| 14:43 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6512858717/ |
| 14:43 | < afny> | how does he get them on the end of those thrusters? |
| 14:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, they are closer to tiles. No middle ministud. |
| 14:44 | < afny> | unless those white things are lampholders, which they aren't |
| 14:44 | < afny> | I have no idea how he reverses those blue 1x2 bricks to get the grate on there |
| 14:44 | < afny> | oh |
| 14:44 | < afny> | wait |
| 14:44 | < afny> | nevermind |
| 14:44 | < afny> | I'm |
| 14:44 | < afny> | just so dumb. |
| 14:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/6512859465/in/photostream/ |
| 14:44 | < Dukayn> | I was gonna say |
| 14:44 | < afny> | it was driving me nuts earlier |
| 14:44 | < Dukayn> | The 2 studs on the brick would do it :P |
| 14:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can see it right there. |
| 14:44 | < afny> | nah it's just like |
| 14:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'd say, blue halfpins with studs. |
| 14:44 | < afny> | the whole hinge brick is oriented the other way |
| 14:44 | < afny> | the NATURAL way |
| 14:44 | < afny> | and I'm stupid. |
| 14:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sunk into the brick. |
| 14:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Connecting to the round plates. |
| 14:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Easymode. |
| 14:45 | < Dukayn> | Oh so it is |
| 14:45 | < Dukayn> | Yeah those are half pins |
| 14:45 | < afny> | wait wait wait |
| 14:45 | < afny> | oh |
| 14:45 | < afny> | okay |
| 14:45 | < afny> | yeah |
| 14:45 | < afny> | I'm NOT stupid |
| 14:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Tadah. |
| 14:45 | < afny> | but I'm stupid for thinking I'm stupid. |
| 14:45 | < Dukayn> | Well you are, but not because of that :P |
| 14:45 | < afny> | hm |
| 14:45 | < afny> | Yes exactly. |
| 14:45 | < afny> | Exactly my point. |
| 14:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you didn't think half pins, you were stupid, still. |
| 14:46 | < afny> | Anyway I think I better order some halfpins when I order my clips |
| 14:46 | < afny> | because I only have like 8 left |
| 14:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now that's a smart man. |
| 14:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey, the t pieces I sent you? |
| 14:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Filled back up as of yesterday. :D |
| 14:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | When is THAT shit gonna arrive anyway? Fuck. |
| 14:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren's stuff came in yesterday. And he is further away then you are! |
| 14:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | (I'll just pretend it's true.) |
| 14:50 | < Dukayn> | Opinion time |
| 14:50 | < Dukayn> | Does this head just look stupid? |
| 14:50 | < afny> | WE'RE READY |
| 14:50 | < afny> | WE'RE OPINIONATED. |
| 14:50 | < Dukayn> | Oh, I know you are. |
| 14:50 | < Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby1.png |
| 14:50 | < afny> | I actually REALLY like it. |
| 14:51 | < afny> | the way it flows into the shoulders is especially nice |
| 14:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay. |
| 14:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | This is a head I used before the Gadian head. |
| 14:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | I threw it away, because it looked dorky. |
| 14:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | It has it's place. |
| 14:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | But you don't have the 'frame for it. |
| 14:52 | < afny> | well |
| 14:52 | < afny> | I'd argue that he has the top half of a frame for it |
| 14:52 | < afny> | the thing is |
| 14:52 | < afny> | that frame screams Zeon Biclopic Mobile Suit to me |
| 14:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Right now it looks like the guy has put ony of those ear warmer hats on. |
| 14:52 | < afny> | so what you need to do is taper out the legs toward the feet |
| 14:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or change the head. |
| 14:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | MY vote is change the head. |
| 14:52 | < afny> | but the head is the BEST PART |
| 14:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | Except for it looks like a goddamn lumber's tuke. |
| 14:53 | < afny> | SO? |
| 14:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | *throws up hands* |
| 14:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | You ... you like men. |
| 14:53 | < afny> | NICE ONE. |
| 14:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have no better counterargument. |
| 14:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's personal taste. |
| 14:53 | < Dukayn> | This is the other head: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby2.png |
| 14:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | ME NO RIKEY. |
| 14:54 | < Dukayn> | Pretty standard Chub variation |
| 14:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey: Take a trans 1x1 plate instead. |
| 14:54 | < afny> | I think you should flip the grates on the shins |
| 14:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | And use 1x1 round plates instead for the meat. |
| 14:54 | < afny> | what's this frames deal |
| 14:54 | < afny> | anyway |
| 14:54 | < afny> | I mean I think both heads look good, but for different kinds of frames |
| 14:54 | < Dukayn> | "deal"? |
| 14:55 | < afny> | like what does it do |
| 14:55 | < afny> | what role does it fill |
| 14:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | He want's to go skating for the <hockey team in black/orange>. |
| 14:55 | < afny> | is it unique, or are there lots |
| 14:55 | < Dukayn> | It kills shit |
| 14:55 | < afny> | Well okay. |
| 14:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | NO SHIT SHERLOCK. |
| 14:55 | < Dukayn> | ASK A STUPID QUESTION :p |
| 14:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA MAKE SAMMICHES AND DANCE NAKED. |
| 14:55 | < afny> | Well when I make a frame usually I have some idea in mind |
| 14:55 | < afny> | of what it's going to do |
| 14:55 | < Dukayn> | No, that's the pink & purple Chub |
| 14:55 | < afny> | SO SHIT |
| 14:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Samesies. |
| 14:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay, goal achieved. |
| 14:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | That 'frame has one task. |
| 14:56 | < afny> | CLOG DANCING. |
| 14:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Keel over and bury local wildlife. |
| 14:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | DONE. |
| 14:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | NEXT. |
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| 14:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | No, srsly. Take the skates off. |
| 14:56 | < Dukayn> | hey LFOW |
| 14:56 | < afny> | actually they don't look like clogs |
| 14:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hello thar, Eeh El Oh Wee. |
| 14:56 | < afny> | you know how leonardo davinci was an inventor |
| 14:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | They look like iceskates. |
| 14:57 | < afny> | you know how he invented a submarine |
| 14:57 | < afny> | well he also invented |
| 14:57 | < afny> | BOAT SHOES |
| 14:57 | < afny> | they were shoes, right...that were tiny little boats |
| 14:57 | < afny> | and the idea was you would walk on water with them. |
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| 14:57 | < afny> | THIS CHUB HAS BOAT SHOES. |
| 14:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | "'Sup dawg, we heard you like boats, so we made boat shoes so you can boat while you boat!" |
| 14:57 | < Dukayn> | You liked the shoes earlier, afny |
| 14:57 | < Dukayn> | Traitor :P |
| 14:57 | < afny> | I still do |
| 14:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | I still don't. |
| 14:57 | < afny> | but they do look like clogs |
| 14:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Don't listen to him. |
| 14:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Except for when he flames your boat skates. |
| 14:58 | < afny> | listen there is a lot of cognitive dissonance in here but I generally like big feet on frames |
| 14:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then he is right. |
| 14:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | IS THAT A FETISH. |
| 14:58 | < afny> | No, I just like Zeon mobile suits |
| 14:58 | < afny> | and they have big feet |
| 14:58 | < afny> | but they also have tapering legs |
| 14:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | THAT IS A FETISH. |
| 14:58 | < afny> | I think those feet would be much better if the legs tapered down instead of up, as I've said |
| 14:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | 60ies style carrot pants? |
| 14:58 | < afny> | YEAH BOIII. |
| 14:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Inverted carrots, that is. |
| 14:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh my good god gracious. |
| 14:59 | < Dukayn> | like this, afny ? |
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| 14:59 | < Dukayn> | http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msv/ms-07h.jpg |
| 14:59 | < afny> | yeah see |
| 14:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | WE NEED MORE LFOWs. |
| 14:59 | < afny> | that's such a crazy style |
| 14:59 | < afny> | but that's more or less what I mean |
| 14:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukayn: Things I don't like: That. |
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| 14:59 | < Dukayn> | Yeah I'm not sold on it |
| 15:00 | < Dukayn> | OK he /was/ kidding, LFOW :P |
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| 15:00 | < afny> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/rms-099.htm |
| 15:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukay, can you hold the fort with afny for an hour? |
| 15:00 | | mode/#mf0 [+hh Dukayn afny] by Ced23Ric |
| 15:01 | <%afny> | we'll stand on the ramparts and blow horns |
| 15:01 | <%afny> | TUNELESSLY. |
| 15:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just kick people down, that would be sufficient. |
| 15:01 | <%Dukayn> | until Theon screams at us that he's going to kill us |
| 15:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | NO BLOWING UNTIL SOREN AND I ARE BACK. |
| 15:02 | <%afny> | shit I added some 1x2 bricks to the Ramiel |
| 15:02 | <%afny> | I need to reshoot EVERYTHING now |
| 15:02 | <%afny> | because it's so much better |
| 15:02 | <%Dukayn> | LOL |
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| 15:03 | <@Ced|OnAMission> | Wish me luck. |
| 15:03 | <@Ced|OnAMission> | I am going in. |
| 15:04 | <%afny> | o7 |
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| 15:07 | <%afny> | i'm afraid to count how many tile clips I have left |
| 15:07 | <%afny> | a SICKENINGLY low amount I suspect |
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| 15:08 | <%Dukayn> | heh |
| 15:20 | <%afny> | So any progress with your pirates? |
| 15:20 | <%Dukayn> | not a lot |
| 15:20 | <%afny> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvhbdaOMLcY |
| 15:20 | <%Dukayn> | work's been a bit busier than normal |
| 15:21 | <%afny> | you should build a little spaceship |
| 15:21 | <%afny> | do they operate on an interplanetary level? |
| 15:21 | <%afny> | Are they LEGITIMATE SPACE PIRATES is what I'm asking. |
| 15:22 | <%Dukayn> | yessir |
| 15:22 | <%afny> | nice |
| 15:23 | <%Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby3.ong |
| 15:23 | <%Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby3.png |
| 15:23 | <%Dukayn> | 2nd link is the real one |
| 15:23 | <%afny> | nice |
| 15:24 | <%afny> | are these the legs from the whatsit |
| 15:24 | <%afny> | ....kestrel? |
| 15:24 | <%Dukayn> | Those are the ones Soren designed for it yeah |
| 15:24 | <%Dukayn> | but they were deemed too nice to waste on the Kestrel |
| 15:24 | <%Dukayn> | which has been scrapped :P |
| 15:24 | <%afny> | I think it would look sick in the brick |
| 15:24 | <%Dukayn> | Kestrel? Eh, it was OK |
| 15:24 | <%afny> | nah, I mean this right here |
| 15:24 | <%Dukayn> | oh right |
| 15:25 | <%Dukayn> | Yeah, when my bricks arrive I can make it |
| 15:25 | <%Dukayn> | I have only 2 Travis bricks until then, so |
| 15:25 | <%afny> | I know that feel |
| 15:25 | <%afny> | Not CURRENTLY, though. |
| 15:25 | <%afny> | I'm rolling in them. |
| 15:26 | <%Dukayn> | That'd be uncomfortable |
| 15:26 | <%afny> | it hurts so good. |
| 15:26 | <%afny> | not to equate EVERYTHING to a mobile suit, but |
| 15:26 | <%afny> | it reminds me of this |
| 15:26 | <%afny> | http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/rms-117.jpg |
| 15:26 | <%afny> | obviously not in those colors |
| 15:27 | <%afny> | definitely more square. |
| 15:27 | <%Dukayn> | I still dunno about the head |
| 15:28 | <%afny> | it's probably the kind of thing you'll have to decide in the brick |
| 15:28 | <%afny> | how does it attach to the back? |
| 15:28 | <%afny> | the normal chub way? |
| 15:28 | <%Dukayn> | yeah it's all pretty normal Chub |
| 15:28 | <%afny> | with some tilt and an angle I bet it would look really god |
| 15:28 | <%afny> | +o |
| 15:28 | <%afny> | i'm actually not a fan of the chub w/ eyes head |
| 15:29 | <%afny> | when anyone uses it. I made one frame with it and it's the only frame I haven't left built |
| 15:29 | <%afny> | I'm all about the normal chub head though |
| 15:30 | <%Dukayn> | http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby4.png |
| 15:30 | <%Dukayn> | head fully tilted down |
| 15:30 | <%Dukayn> | didn't realise it wasn't :P |
| 15:31 | <%afny> | wait |
| 15:32 | <%afny> | it's BLACK and orange, right? |
| 15:32 | <%afny> | or is that actually some sort of weird green blue |
| 15:32 | <%Dukayn> | black |
| 15:32 | <%Dukayn> | LDD has way too much blue in its black |
| 15:32 | <%afny> | yeah okay |
| 15:32 | <%afny> | yeah it's so confusing |
| 15:34 | <%Dukayn> | how are those photos coming? |
| 15:34 | <%afny> | haven't even started |
| 15:34 | <%afny> | i'm thinking about my grunts |
| 15:34 | <%afny> | I could conceivably finish this company today |
| 15:34 | <%afny> | if I stretch my clips |
| 15:34 | <%afny> | but I can't decide what else it needs |
| 15:35 | <%afny> | I was talking to Ced about this; my first company is just a bunch of random frames I built one after another and vaguely tied together thematically |
| 15:35 | <%afny> | but visually, aside from being Chubs and Nimrods, they have no relation |
| 15:35 | <%afny> | I want this company to be visually cohesive from the ground up |
| 15:35 | <%afny> | so the idea is to use grunts as negative space to make the ace frames seem cooler |
| 15:35 | <%afny> | but I don't know what to use as grunts |
| 15:37 | <%Dukayn> | So the MgNs are the ace frames? |
| 15:37 | <%afny> | yeah |
| 15:37 | <%afny> | I mean the grunts could also be MgNs in bley/black or something |
| 15:37 | <%afny> | but that might get boring |
| 15:37 | <%Dukayn> | yeah |
| 15:37 | <%afny> | but those three frames I linked earlier are the aces |
| 15:37 | <%Dukayn> | cool cool |
| 15:37 | <%afny> | and I guess that tachi if I decide to keep it in |
| 15:38 | <%Dukayn> | Who are they? SU/FC/Merc ? |
| 15:38 | <%Dukayn> | I assume not Ijad just on the designs |
| 15:39 | <%afny> | Uhhh I don't really know yet. I just know they're sort of ex-mil with some sort of background in special ops |
| 15:39 | <%afny> | two Ijad pilots so far, one human and one without a human host |
| 15:40 | <%afny> | but they aren't Ijad aligned or religiously aligned |
| 15:40 | <%Dukayn> | Yeah I meant faction rather than physiological makeup :P |
| 15:40 | <%afny> | yeah I dunno |
| 15:40 | <%afny> | most likely they'll shake out as FC |
| 15:40 | <%afny> | or FC with a mercenary streak |
| 15:41 | <%Dukayn> | or Mercs hired by the FC |
| 15:41 | <%afny> | also a possibility |
| 15:41 | <%Dukayn> | Did I see you mention the Warhorse previously? |
| 15:41 | <%afny> | Oh yeah, I was thinking about that |
| 15:41 | <%afny> | as the grunt |
| 15:41 | <%afny> | hm |
| 15:41 | <%afny> | that is pretty FC |
| 15:41 | <%afny> | lemme go look at it |
| 15:42 | <%afny> | I need at least one arty frame |
| 15:42 | <%Dukayn> | Commisar, maybe |
| 15:42 | <%afny> | I probably don't have enough lampholders to make four warhorses |
| 15:42 | <%afny> | could swing two easy enough I bet |
| 15:43 | <%afny> | I really like the commisar but I'm not sure it would fit thematically |
| 15:43 | <%afny> | this isn't a rag-tag startup cell |
| 15:46 | <%afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/76466756@N07/6883985536/in/photostream |
| 15:46 | <%afny> | I really like this guy too |
| 15:46 | <%afny> | pretty similar to an MgN |
| 15:48 | <%Dukayn> | yeah |
| 15:50 | <%Dukayn> | I could always just admit I stole the head design from the Fat Snake and use that: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby5.png |
| 15:51 | <%afny> | I think that makes the trans-slope look too big |
| 15:51 | <%afny> | and it doesn't blend into the torso as well |
| 15:53 | <%afny> | hm |
| 15:53 | <%afny> | maybe I should just make slammers |
| 15:53 | <%Dukayn> | Heh |
| 15:53 | <%Dukayn> | Could do |
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| 15:54 | <%afny> | wb |
| 15:54 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Ced23Ric] by ChanServ |
| 15:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya. |
| 15:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | I just got trolled. |
| 15:54 | <%Dukayn> | wb |
| 15:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Got an order. |
| 15:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | The box is like ... 6" by 6" and 1 ft. |
| 15:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | In there, 6 bucks worth of parts that'd fit in a bubble mailer. |
| 15:55 | <%Dukayn> | LOL |
| 15:55 | <%afny> | heh |
| 15:55 | <%Dukayn> | probably all he had left |
| 15:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | 25 roof slopes, 10 antennas, 8 motors and some tiles. |
| 15:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | And I am like: "Srsly?" |
| 15:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dafuq. |
| 15:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Second package. |
| 15:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Open it open. |
| 15:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | *up |
| 15:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | First item: A ripped pick-a-brick baggy. |
| 15:57 | <%Dukayn> | Ced, playing with head designs, and redid the legs: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby4.png http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Chubby5.png |
| 15:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | And another one. O_o |
| 15:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Take 5, angle the teeth up. |
| 15:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | So the tip is lever with the bottom of the ridge of the tile. |
| 15:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | *level |
| 15:58 | <%Dukayn> | nah that's worse |
| 15:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Replace the tile with a 1x2 plate. |
| 15:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Put a cheese slope in the back. |
| 15:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Put a 1x1 plate and a 1x1 tile on it. |
| 15:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Move the trans cheese slope outwards by adding a trans 1x1 plate behind it. |
| 16:00 | <%Dukayn> | It has a mohawk... |
| 16:00 | <%Dukayn> | :P |
| 16:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | GADIAN HEAD, THICK VERSION. |
| 16:01 | <%afny> | you're a gadian oil salesman |
| 16:01 | <%Dukayn> | 5 is basically a Fat Snake Chub, but with the wedge instead of 1x1 round |
| 16:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Can't help it. |
| 16:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wanna redesign the Gadians, though. |
| 16:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make them bigger, meaner. |
| 16:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Greeblier. |
| 16:02 | <%afny> | Well |
| 16:02 | <%afny> | you can GREEBLE |
| 16:02 | <%afny> | into infinity |
| 16:02 | <%afny> | but you'll just end up with a fractal |
| 16:03 | <%Dukayn> | Fuck it, enough screwing with a Chub I'll possibly not even use |
| 16:03 | <%Dukayn> | COMPANY COMPOSITION TIME |
| 16:03 | <%afny> | hey me too! |
| 16:03 | <%afny> | let's compare notes |
| 16:03 | <%afny> | what are you workin' with |
| 16:03 | <%Dukayn> | Heh, not much to be honest. |
| 16:04 | <%Dukayn> | I haven't really given much thought to company make up so far, as there's not been much reason to. |
| 16:04 | <%Dukayn> | But, I figure with bricks on the way I should start putting something together I can actually build towards |
| 16:04 | <%Dukayn> | instead of just doing stuff "cos I can" |
| 16:05 | <%afny> | that's pretty much where I'm at too |
| 16:05 | <%Dukayn> | I'm thinking 6 frames, with probably 2x AYYG in there |
| 16:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukayn: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/head_1.png |
| 16:05 | <%afny> | shit this AYYx stuff is popular |
| 16:05 | <%afny> | cedric keeps trying to sell me on it as well |
| 16:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yupp. |
| 16:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's deadly effective. |
| 16:06 | <%Dukayn> | hey, I got a one-shot with AYYx |
| 16:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Here is how it works. |
| 16:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Frontline units spot for each other, last leaves a spot. |
| 16:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | AYYx picks up that spot and puts another on there, for the other AYYx. |
| 16:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Leaves a spot unused, right? |
| 16:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Here's the magic. |
| 16:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | AYYx picks up the last spot of THAT frontline, and drops a new spot on a DIFFERENT hot spot. |
| 16:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | And your 'frames start their chain with a spot. |
| 16:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | AYYx connects two hotspots seamlessly. |
| 16:08 | <%afny> | I don't understand the theory, but my brain is no longer operating at full capacity |
| 16:08 | <%Dukayn> | I'm a bit confused sorry Ced |
| 16:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay, I'll go slow. |
| 16:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Say, you have two hotspots. |
| 16:08 | <%Dukayn> | righto |
| 16:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now, to inflict the most damage, you need to chain your shots and spots. |
| 16:09 | <%Dukayn> | Right, I'm with you now. You have 2 lots of frontline troops at 2 different hotspots |
| 16:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | You start your chain with any 'frame, really. He shoots (good time for an SSR if you have no Big Gun) and drops the first spot. |
| 16:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Your frontliners work through their chain and leave one last spot. |
| 16:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Frontline 2 cannot use that spot. But AYYx can. |
| 16:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | He drops Arty on the last spot, and starts the new chain at the second hotspot, by spotting over there. |
| 16:10 | <%afny> | ah, okay |
| 16:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | So now THAT hotspot chain starts with a spot already, instead of building a new chain. |
| 16:10 | <%afny> | but spots aren't saved at the end of a round |
| 16:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | So AYYx connects these two hotspots in the shoot & spot chain. |
| 16:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's okay. I am still within one turn. |
| 16:10 | <%Dukayn> | yeah |
| 16:11 | <%Dukayn> | that's where I got confused, but I know where he's at now |
| 16:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can look at the PbP. It will happen there. |
| 16:11 | <%afny> | I sort of get it...let me ponder as I dive for a 1x3 brick that isn't sun piss color |
| 16:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | V47 Alpha will start the chain for the 3 up north. |
| 16:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | But will work of her own chain with Epsilon. |
| 16:11 | <%Dukayn> | BTW Ced I like that head. |
| 16:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | Thanks! |
| 16:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | I thought you would. |
| 16:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just trying to help. |
| 16:12 | <%Dukayn> | LOL, poor LDD. |
| 16:12 | <%Dukayn> | Got so sick of it not loading I just blocked it at the firewall :P |
| 16:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's always offline. |
| 16:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because, fuck it. :D |
| 16:12 | <%Dukayn> | yeah |
| 16:12 | <%Dukayn> | I figure when the palette update happens someone will mention it |
| 16:12 | <%Dukayn> | Unblock, get update, block. |
| 16:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll let you know. |
| 16:13 | <%afny> | okay, so |
| 16:13 | <%afny> | we sort of covered this earlier, but if I have a DF guy with YY |
| 16:13 | <%afny> | is it suboptimal to still have two AYYx? |
| 16:13 | <%Dukayn> | what's at the back of that head? |
| 16:14 | <%Dukayn> | jumper? |
| 16:14 | <%Dukayn> | afny: I'd say so, but I don't know for sure |
| 16:17 | <%Dukayn> | oh wait, I see what he's done. Travis is rotated differently, and it's a tile. |
| 16:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, it's a 1x2 grill slope. |
| 16:18 | <%Dukayn> | doesn't work |
| 16:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Totally does. |
| 16:18 | <%Dukayn> | clip on the head mount gets in the way |
| 16:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Clip on the bottom? |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | OH WELL. |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Back to the drawing board. Gimme a sec. |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | afny: Nah. |
| 16:19 | <%Dukayn> | LOL |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | But that should be it for YY. |
| 16:19 | <%Dukayn> | don't worry too much |
| 16:19 | <%afny> | nah it isn't suboptimal? |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now you need Big Guns to seal the deal. |
| 16:19 | <%afny> | so three YY is the max? |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | DF DF Y G/B. |
| 16:19 | <%afny> | for what company size |
| 16:19 | <%afny> | I have one of those |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | At 8, I run 4 YY. |
| 16:19 | <%afny> | the Ramiel is DF DF Y G |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | At 6, I run 2 or 3 YY. |
| 16:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | At 7, 3. |
| 16:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | At 5, 1 or 2. |
| 16:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | What's your aimed-at size? |
| 16:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | You know what I like? |
| 16:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | How oblivious Josh sometimes is. |
| 16:20 | <%Dukayn> | The Cock |
| 16:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | And that. |
| 16:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Josh: "... But you're more likely to take that damage in the first place with d6Y instead of d6B ." |
| 16:29 | <%afny> | okay, so here's where I'm at |
| 16:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hit me. |
| 16:29 | <%afny> | a DF/Y/G/B soldier (red MgN) |
| 16:29 | <%afny> | a DF/Y/Y/B soldier (blue MgN) |
| 16:29 | <%afny> | a DF/DF/Y/G soldier (black and white MgN) |
| 16:30 | <%afny> | and an A/Y/Y/x long distance MgN in a mix of greys |
| 16:30 | <%afny> | so first off |
| 16:30 | <%afny> | NO MORE MGNS |
| 16:30 | <%afny> | this is the last one I swear |
| 16:30 | <%afny> | and second |
| 16:30 | <%afny> | green over blue for the four system? |
| 16:30 | <%Dukayn> | I would |
| 16:30 | <%Dukayn> | cover hopping |
| 16:31 | <%Dukayn> | you can defend with W |
| 16:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukayn: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/head_2.png |
| 16:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can scoot the grate slope down in the brick. |
| 16:31 | <%Dukayn> | Cool |
| 16:32 | <%Dukayn> | yeah, I hate that LDD doesn't let you do that with tiles with no sectioning |
| 16:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | afny: I'd make it a AYYB, if you don't have a lot of cover. |
| 16:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | If oyu do, AFFG. |
| 16:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | I would double up on Big Gun and Soldier. |
| 16:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Put the SSR on the Soldiers and one on the DF Y Y B. |
| 16:33 | <%afny> | the DF Y Y B is the only one with an SSR so far |
| 16:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | So you have your SSR on the Soldiers and the Captain. |
| 16:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | And your Big Guns with the native d8 are fine. |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | So you have d8 on all 5 frontliners. |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | wait |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | I only have two soldiers |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | like, so far anyway |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | No, you have 1 soldier and 1 captain. |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | yeah okay |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | DF Y B G = Soldier |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Get two of those. |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | it's CONFUSING AS FUCK |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | They are workhorses. |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | NO IT IS NOT. |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | mostly because the red one is a Soldier in your book |
| 16:34 | <%afny> | but it's the CAPTAIN |
| 16:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | 2x DF Y B G - R |
| 16:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | 1x DF Y Y B - R |
| 16:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | 2x DF DF Y G |
| 16:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | 1x A Y Y B/G |
| 16:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | 2x Soldier, 1x Tough Captain, 2x Fast Big Gun, 1x Tough/Fast Arty. |
| 16:36 | <%afny> | only one arty? |
| 16:37 | <%afny> | at eight it seems like I should have two |
| 16:37 | <%Dukayn> | Thats only 6 |
| 16:38 | <%afny> | yeah, I know |
| 16:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Thanks, Dukey. |
| 16:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 16:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just triple up on Artys. |
| 16:38 | <%Dukayn> | I R GOOD AT MATH |
| 16:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you go for 3x Arty, make them all A Y Y G. |
| 16:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | The B is more valueable if you only have one Arty. |
| 16:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | But with three, the movement becomes better - range denial, staying in protective range behind your DF 'frames and cover hopping. |
| 16:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Also, with that much Y, you can totally use it as ablative wounds. |
| 16:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukster? |
| 16:40 | <%Dukayn> | ya |
| 16:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | I just realized, you sly fox evaporated an SSR of Trilly. :D |
| 16:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Carrot was acarrier. |
| 16:40 | <%Dukayn> | what can I say, I saw red :P |
| 16:40 | <%Dukayn> | LOTS OF RED |
| 16:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... funnily enough, I ate 2 of yours. |
| 16:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | HA. |
| 16:40 | <%Dukayn> | Yeah ya did |
| 16:41 | <%Dukayn> | Should've used 'em too |
| 16:41 | <%Dukayn> | Almost did |
| 16:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I am curious what Trilly makes of it. |
| 16:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | And what Egress does. |
| 16:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | "SHOOT G1!" |
| 16:41 | <%Dukayn> | LOL |
| 16:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | I mean, he has ... one prime target. |
| 16:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | My Def 1 Gamma. |
| 16:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | I took a gamble there. |
| 16:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gamma had 3 6es, 2 1's. |
| 16:42 | <%Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 16:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | MOVE, SHOOT, COMMUNICATE. |
| 16:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | (It's how I play paintball.) |
| 16:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | 50 of the break or die. |
| 16:43 | <%Dukayn> | paintball is illegal here :( |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | I KNOW. |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | SUCH BULLSHIT. |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | When we're meeting up in the States for our first MFZ offline meeting and tourney ... |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... we go play. |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | You and I. |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | And anyone who is in. |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren has to come, too. |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'm not even gonna ask him. |
| 16:43 | <%Dukayn> | lol |
| 16:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll get my contacts ready. |
| 16:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | (I have HUGE contacts in the US when it comes to Paintball.) |
| 16:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Been modding a 35,000 members Pb forum for a long time. |
| 16:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | And I slept with one of the biggest names in the scene. :D |
| 16:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | (And I was good. That, too.) |
| 16:44 | <%afny> | this is how I'm imagining you right now |
| 16:44 | <%afny> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBB9An0ZT3I |
| 16:45 | <%afny> | (in the Nick Frost role) |
| 16:47 | <%Dukayn> | LOL |
| 16:48 | <%afny> | shit |
| 16:48 | <%afny> | this guy is so heavily armored |
| 16:49 | <%afny> | but he doesn't get any Bs |
| 16:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay. |
| 16:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Goal for today: Design the VMX-06 Gadian 2. |
| 16:53 | <%Dukayn> | Cool cool |
| 16:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | Role: DF Y B G; DF DF Y B; A Y Y G, DF Y Y B. |
| 16:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | I need a new roomie. |
| 16:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | This one keeps stealing my nerf gun. |
| 16:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | And then, when we play MFZ, he uses it. |
| 16:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | And shoots it at 'frames that are destroyed. |
| 16:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lego flies everywhere. |
| 16:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | And he cackles like a maniaxc. |
| 16:54 | <%Dukayn> | ./facepalm |
| 16:54 | <%Dukayn> | before you play, hide it. |
| 16:54 | <%Dukayn> | then when he sits down to play, shoot him in the face |
| 16:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | I do that. |
| 16:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Right now, I am using the backrest of my chair as a shield. |
| 16:59 | <%Dukayn> | OK 2am, time for bed |
| 16:59 | <%Dukayn> | daughter will have me up in 4 hours |
| 17:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nightey night, Dukey. |
| 17:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | See you in a few. :D |
| 17:00 | <%Dukayn> | Night mate |
| 17:00 | <%afny> | night |
| 17:00 | <%Dukayn> | night afny |
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| 17:00 | <%afny> | okay so |
| 17:00 | <%afny> | here is my current problem |
| 17:00 | <%afny> | also |
| 17:00 | <%afny> | chair shield |
| 17:00 | <%afny> | is adorable. |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | So this mgn |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | has a big back mount |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | like the blue one |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | two cylinders |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | I'm going to give him an rpg or mortar or something handheld for the 2rA |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | the problem is |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | he's pretty bulky and angular and grey cause I wanted him to look industrial |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | but now I can't figure out how to give him a G |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | oh also |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | he's got a backpack |
| 17:01 | <%afny> | it's sick |
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| 17:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | mHMM: |
| 17:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm. |
| 17:22 | | mode/#mf0 [+h afny] by Ced23Ric |
| 17:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Jetpacks? |
| 17:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wheelie feet? |
| 17:23 | <%afny> | wheelie feet |
| 17:23 | <%afny> | is easier said than done |
| 17:26 | <@randolph> | Oh dear god the backscroll |
| 17:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well. |
| 17:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | You need tires. |
| 17:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | And a mount. |
| 17:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's that easy. |
| 17:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hey Randy. |
| 17:30 | <%afny> | not having tires is an impediment |
| 17:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | HOW. |
| 17:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | WHY. |
| 17:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | GET TIRES. |
| 17:36 | <%afny> | fuck this guy is so heavy |
| 17:36 | <%afny> | in the back |
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| 18:01 | <%afny> | hey Ced |
| 18:01 | <%afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7342030112/lightbox/ |
| 18:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. Sweet stuff, man. |
| 18:14 | <%afny> | do you know how to link shit in flikr |
| 18:14 | <%afny> | it doesn't seem to follow the same format as quotes |
| 18:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Rightclick. |
| 18:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Copy Image Location.? |
| 18:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Use that. |
| 18:14 | <%afny> | no no like |
| 18:14 | <%afny> | link something in a comment but mask the url |
| 18:14 | <%afny> | like hotlinking |
| 18:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Uhm. No idea. Read the help? |
| 18:14 | <%afny> | NYRG. |
| 18:19 | <%afny> | well I think it still looks visually unified |
| 18:19 | <%afny> | but I more or less made another ace |
| 18:19 | <%afny> | so I've got four slots left, or three with the tachi |
| 18:20 | <%afny> | I think I could build two hi-legs or two slammers |
| 18:20 | <%afny> | but I'm also pretty sure it's going to be a straight up Free Colonies cell now |
| 18:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Slammers! |
| 18:20 | <%afny> | Slammers aren't the MOST FC thing |
| 18:20 | <%afny> | and also slammers only look good as HtH frames |
| 18:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Truth. :( |
| 18:21 | <%afny> | I mean I'm going to include some Human Ijad pilots |
| 18:21 | <%afny> | so it wouldn't be super out of the realm of possibility for one of them to pilot a slammer |
| 18:21 | <%afny> | but like, the human ijad pilots wouldn't really have ties to any powerful Ijad tribe |
| 18:21 | <%afny> | if they were embedded in the FC |
| 18:21 | <%afny> | so where would they get top of the line Ijad frames |
| 18:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | STOLEN. |
| 18:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | No. 1 answer. |
| 18:22 | <%afny> | that's my excuse for ALL of them though |
| 18:22 | <%afny> | I feel like I need at least ONE hi-leg |
| 18:22 | <%afny> | the other arty guy will be a hi-leg |
| 18:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | So you have a theme. Great. :D |
| 18:22 | <%afny> | my theme before was just |
| 18:23 | <%afny> | WACKY MERCENARIES |
| 18:23 | <%afny> | W/ HEARTS OF GOLD |
| 18:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Not anymore? |
| 18:23 | <%afny> | well that was my old company |
| 18:23 | <%afny> | I mean I still have all of those frames |
| 18:23 | <%afny> | I'm not 100% sure these guys are even in the same setting |
| 18:24 | <%afny> | I see these as urban combat frames |
| 18:25 | <%afny> | so I need another soldier |
| 18:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gotcha. |
| 18:25 | <%afny> | another df df y g |
| 18:25 | <%afny> | and two more arty guys |
| 18:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's a Fast Big Gun. :D |
| 18:26 | <%afny> | I COULD just copy the mulciber |
| 18:26 | <%afny> | I have another red magnet holder head |
| 18:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | That'd be cool. |
| 18:26 | <%afny> | maybe do less red |
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| 18:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay. |
| 18:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | I got it. |
| 18:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | I like it. |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Here, take a look. |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmx06_gadian2_b1.png |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmx06_gadian2_b2.png |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmx06_gadian2_b3.png |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmx06_gadian2_b4.png |
| 18:56 | <%afny> | oh wow |
| 18:56 | <%afny> | looks pretty majestic |
| 19:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Do they? |
| 19:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | How you mean, majestic? |
| 19:02 | <%afny> | uh |
| 19:02 | <%afny> | ...full of majesty |
| 19:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | As in, elegant? |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | it's in the elongation of the head and the sloping shoulders |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | no, not elegant |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | majestic |
| 19:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Imposing? |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | there isn't an exact synonym |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | MAJESTIC damnit |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | like |
| 19:03 | <%afny> | like a dinosaur is MAJESTIC |
| 19:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm. |
| 19:04 | <%afny> | but an old tree |
| 19:04 | <%afny> | is also majestic |
| 19:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because it has an overshadowing, large vibe to it. |
| 19:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | As in, "I could never be this tall/mighty/strong" ? |
| 19:04 | <%afny> | but also old, lumbering, wise |
| 19:04 | <%afny> | stoic |
| 19:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gotcha! |
| 19:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, that totally works for me. |
| 19:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's the Gadian v2, after all. |
| 19:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Only 4 Travis Bricks |
| 19:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | Uses less than the old Gadian. |
| 19:08 | <%afny> | wow |
| 19:08 | <%afny> | 4 is like |
| 19:08 | <%afny> | a NORMAL NUMBER |
| 19:08 | <%afny> | that's how many my frames use |
| 19:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 19:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Looks good still, doesn't it? |
| 19:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh wait. |
| 19:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | 5. :( |
| 19:09 | <%afny> | stil |
| 19:09 | <%afny> | l |
| 19:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | Shoulders, thighs, pelvis. |
| 19:09 | <%afny> | that's better than TWENTY or whatever |
| 19:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | 13 on the Elder Naga. ^^ |
| 19:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | You know the BEST part of it? |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | jesus |
| 19:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | I can open the torso. |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | alright, got 5 frames |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | two mulcibers |
| 19:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | And have a pilot climb in and out. |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | one red, one black with a red head |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | wait what |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | on the gadan? |
| 19:10 | <%afny> | +i |
| 19:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yes. |
| 19:11 | <%afny> | that's awesome |
| 19:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | The entire angled top can be tilted up. |
| 19:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | And be up straight. |
| 19:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | And inside is only room and some taps. |
| 19:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | NO WAIT. |
| 19:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | The arms fold up WITH the top hull. |
| 19:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | So the pilot climbs in UNDER the arms. From the side. :D |
| 19:16 | <%afny> | okay |
| 19:16 | <%afny> | five mgns |
| 19:16 | <%afny> | need something ELSE |
| 19:16 | <%afny> | this is a pretty good core company |
| 19:16 | <%afny> | if I field 5, I'll probably field these |
| 19:17 | <%afny> | I could scrap some other frames and do a close to legit rumble monkey |
| 19:17 | <%afny> | in dark brown |
| 19:17 | <%afny> | but I don't actually think it would look good with these frames |
| 19:17 | <%afny> | er dark gray* |
| 19:17 | | Soren|away is now known as Soren |
| 19:23 | <%afny> | hey Soren |
| 19:23 | <@Soren> | hey hey |
| 19:23 | <@Soren> | Jesus you guys were busy. |
| 19:23 | <%afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7342300474/in/pool-438009@N25/lightbox/ |
| 19:23 | <@Soren> | 1583 messages since I hit the sace. |
| 19:24 | <%afny> | I was highly caffeinated. |
| 19:24 | <@Soren> | I can see that |
| 19:25 | <@Soren> | those guys look great |
| 19:25 | <%afny> | thanks |
| 19:25 | <%afny> | I'm stuck right now |
| 19:25 | <%afny> | I want three more frames so I can field from 5-8 |
| 19:25 | <%afny> | but I don't want them to be MgNs |
| 19:25 | <%afny> | i'm trying to decide how to break down the rest of the company |
| 19:25 | <%afny> | the only thing I know I want is one hi-leg artillerist |
| 19:28 | <@Soren> | hmm |
| 19:28 | <@Soren> | well, the Hi-Leg artillery model for the Special Editions has a clip-fed mortar. |
| 19:29 | <@Soren> | it's just slightly ridiculous. |
| 19:29 | <%afny> | oooh |
| 19:29 | <%afny> | that's pretty up my alley |
| 19:29 | <%afny> | it's gonna be A-Y-Y-G I think |
| 19:29 | <%afny> | Ced has me convinced |
| 19:30 | <%afny> | I could make two hi-legs, one in orange and one in grey |
| 19:30 | <@Soren> | I think if you go for that guy you should make two. |
| 19:30 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 19:30 | <%afny> | two artillerists would give me three long range attackers total |
| 19:30 | <@Soren> | Ced's designs hit maximum effectiveness en masse. |
| 19:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | I sorry. |
| 19:30 | <%afny> | I'm making plenty of optional systems for these guys |
| 19:31 | <%afny> | all of them can do 1G, 1B, 1 or 2 DF |
| 19:31 | <%afny> | and some of them have optional artillery |
| 19:31 | <%afny> | and obviously melee weapons abound |
| 19:31 | <%afny> | especially for the black and white guy in the back |
| 19:31 | <%afny> | but Ced's build helped me get organized |
| 19:32 | <%afny> | not to mention it's operator as fuck. |
| 19:32 | <%afny> | so two hi-legs |
| 19:32 | <%afny> | leaves me one more slot |
| 19:33 | <%afny> | and if I follow ced's build its a DF DF Y G |
| 19:35 | <@Soren> | Conscript with a comically outsized sniper rifle and a generator backpack. |
| 19:35 | <@Soren> | ala Zaku I sniper. |
| 19:35 | <%afny> | hm |
| 19:35 | <%afny> | that's fucking awesome. |
| 19:35 | <%afny> | I don't know if I have enough half pins to make two hi-legs and a conscript |
| 19:36 | <%afny> | we'll find out |
| 19:36 | <%afny> | if I do that though, I'll just do one hi-leg artillerist and another one as a zentradi missile pod |
| 19:36 | <%afny> | WITH NO ARMS because fuck that guy |
| 19:37 | <%afny> | I found this really good print flag that's like a crown with two crossed cannons |
| 19:37 | <%afny> | I might have to order a bunch of them |
| 19:38 | <@Soren> | mm, yeah |
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| 19:47 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Soren] by ChanServ |
| 19:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | So. |
| 19:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | That was a delicious manlette. |
| 19:59 | <@Soren> | whose eggs did you have to crack for it? |
| 19:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Free run eggs! |
| 20:04 | <%afny> | oh god |
| 20:04 | <%afny> | so close to out of tile clips |
| 20:04 | <%afny> | it's bad |
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| 20:15 | <@Soren> | oh, hey! |
| 20:16 | <@Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/7340363368/ I posted |
| 20:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Cool guys are cool. |
| 20:18 | <@Soren> | I wonder if I can get enough of that new, lighter turquoise to work with next. |
| 20:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oooh. |
| 20:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you run low on competition, challenge yourself. |
| 20:19 | <@Soren> | it keeps working, yeah |
| 20:19 | <~Noah> | Blah |
| 20:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren. |
| 20:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | I need some tan arty 'frames. |
| 20:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Think a bit. |
| 20:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Matching those chunky guys. |
| 20:20 | <%afny> | is the bar on the back of the officer hi-leg pod supposed to strain a bit when you clip on the mount, or am I doing something wrong? |
| 20:20 | <@Soren> | hmm? |
| 20:21 | <@Soren> | oh, right |
| 20:21 | <%afny> | http://nobsjustabs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hi-leg-breakdown-02.jpg |
| 20:21 | <@Soren> | yeah, it's a little bit of a strain. |
| 20:21 | <%afny> | it doesnt seem that intense, I just wondered |
| 20:21 | <@Soren> | yeah it hasn't done any damage to my parts yet, so I assume it's fine |
| 20:32 | <~Noah> | What, clips on taps? |
| 20:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Time to build something cool. |
| 20:35 | <~Noah> | Using all your transblue bricks to make lego ice cubes? |
| 20:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sadly, not that cool. :( |
| 20:36 | | mode/#mf0 [+v _calculus] by Noah |
| 20:36 | | mode/#mf0 [+v Ramcat] by Noah |
| 20:36 | | mode/#mf0 [+v aiac] by Noah |
| 20:36 | | mode/#mf0 [+v McMartin_] by Noah |
| 20:36 | | mode/#mf0 [+o mf0bot] by Noah |
| 20:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay. |
| 20:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Step One: I need a shoulder cannon. |
| 20:38 | <~Noah> | Step Two: ??? |
| 20:38 | <~Noah> | Step Three: Poop |
| 20:38 | <~Noah> | Step D: Profit |
| 20:42 | <@randolph> | Hey guys |
| 20:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya. |
| 20:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Okay, shoulder cannon acquired. |
| 20:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Step Two: Someone needs to carry that bitch. |
| 20:54 | <@randolph> | I'm going to keep trying to sell the Unity. |
| 20:54 | <@randolph> | Admittedly, runaway singularities are probably not high on the list of organized military approved weapons |
| 20:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Which one's that? |
| 20:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh! |
| 20:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Red cannon. |
| 20:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gotcha. |
| 20:57 | <@randolph> | Maybe it'd be more popular if I included a leather carrying case. |
| 20:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Bitches love leather carrying cases. |
| 20:57 | <@Soren> | NEver hurts to have one of those |
| 21:05 | <@randolph> | alright back to work for me |
| 21:07 | <~Noah> | Oh good, I remembered that I uploaded all my music to Google Music Beta, and they let me download it down |
| 21:08 | <~Noah> | Some like 60 albums, haha |
| 21:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | OPERATION KNEELING ARTILLERIST IS A GO. |
| 21:29 | <@Soren> | DIRTY. |
| 21:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | NECESSARY. |
| 21:33 | <~Noah> | FUCK YEA CAPS. |
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| 21:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wow, this 'frame sucks. *throw* |
| 21:48 | < XGundam05> | random, a MF0 MUD would be pretty slick >.> |
| 21:51 | <~Noah> | Hmm |
| 21:51 | <~Noah> | Well, a MUD based on the realm of the game |
| 21:51 | <~Noah> | Could be a neat way to do the backstory of the game and such |
| 21:51 | <~Noah> | And do out-of-frame gameplay |
| 21:52 | < XGundam05> | Josh has said something about doing an MF0 RPG, which could be a basis for said MUD |
| 21:53 | <~Noah> | I like the idea, but I would need to see a lot of fluff to make a core game world |
| 21:54 | <@Soren> | Honestly, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be Shock: Colonialism. |
| 21:55 | < XGundam05> | As long as it could work as a base to go from |
| 21:56 | < XGundam05> | I've got a MUD engine lying around here somewhere |
| 21:56 | < XGundam05> | but, I'm barely motivated to work on the App, let alone manage a MUD :P |
| 21:56 | <@Soren> | thus the problem. |
| 21:56 | < XGundam05> | indeed |
| 22:00 | | * XGundam05 watches Watch Dogs trailer and drools |
| 22:02 | <%afny> | Hey Soren |
| 22:02 | <%afny> | my friend just randomly name dropped you when we were talking about Lego |
| 22:02 | <@Soren> | oh hey. |
| 22:02 | <%afny> | he was fiddling with some lampholders and showing me how to make a joint |
| 22:02 | <%afny> | and he was like, "yeah I was looking at this Soren guy on Flikr" |
| 22:02 | <@Soren> | was the word 'asshole', possibly prefaced with 'giant' involved? |
| 22:02 | <%afny> | Nah I don't think you've offended him personally |
| 22:03 | <%afny> | Not yet anyway |
| 22:03 | <@Soren> | yeah, probably a *yet* |
| 22:03 | <@Soren> | Although most of my assholery was connected with IRC and forums nobody visits or cares about anymore. |
| 22:04 | <@Soren> | I kinda just needed a loop of Jeff Bridges saying 'You're not wrong, you're just an asshole', I think. |
| 22:08 | <%afny> | this conscript is gonna be jury-rigged as fuck |
| 22:09 | <@Soren> | yay |
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| 22:12 | < XGundam05> | this may just be high-tech assassin's creed, but it still looks to be a good game http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=rupvIRDg_lY [/random] |
| 22:13 | < XGundam05> | I'm a sucker for distopian stuff |
| 22:13 | < XGundam05> | *dystopian |
| 22:17 | < MoF0-839> | Hey all. |
| 22:17 | | MoF0-839 is now known as Mantisking |
| 22:17 | < XGundam05> | heya |
| 22:21 | < Mantisking> | How's everyone doing? |
| 22:22 | < XGundam05> | tired |
| 22:22 | < Mantisking> | I'll agree with you there. |
| 22:25 | <@Soren> | writey |
| 22:25 | <@Soren> | So writey. |
| 22:27 | < Mantisking> | Writing MFZ stuff? |
| 22:28 | <@Soren> | in a bit, but for now, baging on Facebook hardcore. |
| 22:28 | <@Soren> | +g |
| 22:28 | < Mantisking> | Ah. |
| 22:29 | < Mantisking> | The only thing i do FB for is the MFZ group. |
| 22:29 | <@Soren> | well, I'm writing it on G+ :D |
| 22:31 | < Mantisking> | 'kay. |
| 22:32 | <%afny> | HEY CED |
| 22:32 | <%afny> | are you here |
| 22:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am now. |
| 22:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | What's up? |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | Okay |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | OKAY |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | So, in your terminology |
| 22:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah? |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | I have two big fast guns, two soldiers, a tough captain, and two A YY G |
| 22:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fast Arty |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | how would you incorporate a fifth sniper |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | er |
| 22:43 | <%afny> | third |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | well, a sniper at all |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | because I trashed the sniper for the MgN and gave him a launcher |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fast Big Gun, Soldier, Tough Captain, Fast Arty. |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | and the hi-leg uses a launcher |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | I KNOW THE WORDS |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | MUST I SPEAK THEM |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | So you want a third AYYx |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | well |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | not really |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | AYYG or B? |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | because that's four YY |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | I dont need that much |
| 22:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | But you want ranged? |
| 22:44 | <%afny> | yeah |
| 22:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I use 4x YY on 8. |
| 22:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | And simply keep the extra Y around as ablative. |
| 22:46 | <%afny> | hm |
| 22:46 | <%afny> | okay |
| 22:46 | <%afny> | maybe |
| 22:46 | <%afny> | but I guess this guy will be AYYB |
| 22:47 | <%afny> | I can't see any way to make him G without it being RIDICULOUS but not in a cool way |
| 22:49 | | MittenNinja [MittenNinja@Nightstar-0dd43fe5.tmodns.net] has joined #mf0 |
| 22:49 | < MittenNinja> | Hey guys |
| 22:49 | <@Soren> | hey |
| 22:49 | < MittenNinja> | What's happening? |
| 22:51 | <+Ramcat> | Not much... |
| 22:53 | < Mantisking> | Hey Mitt. |
| 22:53 | < XGundam05> | heya MN |
| 22:53 | < MittenNinja> | Hey guys |
| 22:54 | < MittenNinja> | I took apart my nagas yesterday |
| 22:54 | < MittenNinja> | They are making way for a new breed of frame. |
| 22:55 | < XGundam05> | It's always a bittersweet day when you have to tear down a frame to make another *tears up* |
| 22:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | 12 TRAVIS BRICKS ARE FREE. |
| 22:56 | <+Ramcat> | I can't bring myself to do that |
| 22:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | I crushed 8 'frames today. 8. |
| 22:56 | <+Ramcat> | Even a frame I don't like |
| 22:56 | < XGundam05> | On a related note, just slapped a head on one of my Hackbacks to make the Fatboy http://www.flickr.com/photos/78142712@N03/7343008846/in/photostream/ |
| 22:57 | < Mantisking> | "Take things apart"? What do you mean by this? |
| 22:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | DESTRUCTION. |
| 22:57 | < XGundam05> | and it is hard, still haven't torn down the Scrapheap for it's bits yet...can't bring myself to do it |
| 22:58 | < MittenNinja> | 24 Travis bricks. I took them both apart :) |
| 22:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | -8 'Frames, +6 'frames. |
| 22:58 | < Mantisking> | Wow. I think the only things I've dismantled are tablescraps. |
| 22:59 | < XGundam05> | dear lord, I don't even use that many in 8 frames >.> |
| 23:00 | <+Ramcat> | Anybody know why "brick with 4 studs" is called a travis brick? |
| 23:00 | < XGundam05> | welp, cya'll later, gotta head out |
| 23:00 | <+Ramcat> | l8tr |
| 23:00 | < Mantisking> | Later, XG. |
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| 23:00 | <@Soren> | Because a lot of lego nerds really liked Travis Kunce, who really liked that brick, and nobody really objected to it. |
| 23:00 | <@Soren> | is the short version. |
| 23:01 | <@Soren> | It's also easier to say than "5-stud 1x1", which is what you'll hear me calling it. |
| 23:02 | <+Ramcat> | Wow, that is an interesting legacy |
| 23:02 | <+Ramcat> | Go Travis |
| 23:02 | <@Soren> | I find it really creepy, which is why I'm not a member of the club. |
| 23:02 | <@Soren> | But it's a non-issue with me at this point. |
| 23:02 | <+Ramcat> | Hey Noah - there a reason for: == mode/#mf0 [+v Ramcat] by Noah |
| 23:02 | <%afny> | I literally had no idea why it was called that |
| 23:03 | <%afny> | but I'm going to keep calling it that because fuck if I'm going to type 1 x 1 brick with five studs |
| 23:03 | <@Soren> | Yeah, we're thinking Chrons might come in here and flop his ragepenis around, so having a lot of voiced people will be nice in case we have to set the channel to moderated mode. |
| 23:04 | <@Soren> | Yeah, I don't have an investment in the lingo, I just have a position that I've stuck myself with. |
| 23:04 | <+Ramcat> | Ah...intersting |
| 23:04 | <%afny> | man, I used up all my good barrel bits |
| 23:04 | <+Ramcat> | *interesting |
| 23:04 | <%afny> | I don't know how I'm going to make a suitably impressive sniper |
| 23:04 | <%afny> | I just want to go to SLEEP but this company is almost done |
| 23:07 | < Mantisking> | If it's a sniper, just give it a long gun. |
| 23:08 | <%afny> | okay, I literally don't even know why I laughed at that |
| 23:08 | <%afny> | but I thought I should inform you that I did |
| 23:08 | < Mantisking> | I'm glad I could make someone laugh. |
| 23:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | My desktop is a mess. |
| 23:10 | <@Soren> | Shocking! |
| 23:10 | | mode/#mf0 [+o Mantisking] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | I know. |
| 23:10 | | mode/#mf0 [+v MittenNinja] by Ced23Ric |
| 23:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | How could it come to this. |
| 23:10 | <@Mantisking> | Mode what? |
| 23:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | You are an operator now. |
| 23:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | You wield power. |
| 23:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | Over .... those 5 guys. |
| 23:11 | <@Mantisking> | Ooookay. |
| 23:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | I somehow made a 'frame that can hold up a rifle to his head, aim and steady it with the other hand. |
| 23:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | By accident. |
| 23:12 | <@Mantisking> | So he can commit suicide? |
| 23:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | He is not holding the barrel to his temple. |
| 23:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | He is holding the butt to his cheek and looks through the ring sight. |
| 23:13 | <@Mantisking> | Ah, so you're saying he has a proper cheek weld. |
| 23:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | I think so. |
| 23:13 | <@Mantisking> | I'm a little dense today. |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | So am I. |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | I just said to the roomies: "So, clear-cut statement, Saturday, uhh ... things." |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Imeant to say 3way MFZ. |
| 23:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | But kinda failed. |
| 23:17 | <+Ramcat> | I need to play a three way game - so far just two player against my son |
| 23:17 | | Dukayn [dcfd27ae@Nightstar-4fab16c5.mibbit.com] has joined #mf0 |
| 23:18 | <@Soren> | yeah, three-player is where the real madness start to happen. |
| 23:18 | <@Soren> | starts* |
| 23:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, it's gonna be wild. |
| 23:21 | < Dukayn> | morn' |
| 23:21 | <@Mantisking> | Hey. |
| 23:22 | <+MittenNinja> | I can't wait to start playing some 3p games at con |
| 23:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hey. |
| 23:22 | <+MittenNinja> | Wussup duke? |
| 23:22 | < Dukayn> | eh, not much. |
| 23:22 | < Dukayn> | having morning cup o' tea |
| 23:23 | <+MittenNinja> | Me too! Except its almost dinner |
| 23:23 | <+MittenNinja> | And it was a green tea lemonade |
| 23:23 | < Dukayn> | THAT'S LIKE THE EXACT SAME THING |
| 23:23 | <@Mantisking> | Yeah, three way games are crazy. |
| 23:23 | < Dukayn> | LET'S BRAID EACH OTHER'S HAIR :p |
| 23:23 | <@Mantisking> | We even had a five way going for a little while at PAX East. |
| 23:23 | <@Mantisking> | I can braid my own, thanks. |
| 23:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | BRAID MY HAIR. |
| 23:24 | <@Mantisking> | :P |
| 23:25 | <+MittenNinja> | Lol |
| 23:27 | < Dukayn> | is it just me or should that RP thread be in the Fanfiction forum? |
| 23:27 | <%afny> | so should every "Overview: X" thread |
| 23:27 | <%afny> | but Schoon doesn't really organize the forum via logic |
| 23:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Schoon organises? |
| 23:29 | < Dukayn> | No the Overviews are background |
| 23:29 | < Dukayn> | in the background forum |
| 23:29 | < Dukayn> | makes sense |
| 23:30 | < Dukayn> | RP is fanfic. |
| 23:30 | <%afny> | the backgrounds are fanfic though |
| 23:30 | <%afny> | like, from the forum description, at least |
| 23:30 | <%afny> | it sounds as if that board is meant to discuss OFFICIAL lore |
| 23:31 | <%afny> | I mean I don't care either way, I'm just saying it isn't clear |
| 23:32 | < Dukayn> | Just says "Background, history and universe" |
| 23:33 | < Dukayn> | Overview threads are talking about the universe, by overviewing different parts of said universe |
| 23:42 | <+MittenNinja> | Dukayn I'm working on a new frame that uses a modified version of the legs I cooked up for your osprey |
| 23:42 | < Dukayn> | Cool |
| 23:43 | <+MittenNinja> | I think you'll like em |
| 23:48 | <@Mantisking> | {* sigh *} So our cat, Jack, is home. |
| 23:49 | <+McMartin_> | \o/ kitty |
| 23:49 | <+MittenNinja> | You don't sound to overjoyed about it |
| 23:50 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 23:50 | <@Mantisking> | It's been a long day. He probably has lymphoma. |
| 23:51 | <+McMartin_> | :( |
| 23:51 | <@Soren> | aww. Poor little guy. |
| 23:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | I almost sorted it all away. |
| 23:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | Almost. |
| 23:52 | <@Mantisking> | Yeah. Me and the girlfriend are a little upset. |
| 23:52 | <@Soren> | I bet. |
| 23:52 | <@Soren> | It's really awful to lose a pet. Especially a snuggly pet. |
| 23:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wonder at what point I decided that I NEED 50 studded cape flaps. |
| 23:53 | | McMartin_ is now known as McMartin |
| 23:53 | <@Soren> | I bet he's more or less got unlimited access to tuna at this point. |
| 23:53 | | mode/#mf0 [+o McMartin] by ChanServ |
| 23:54 | <@Mantisking> | He's still alive. We'll probably have to give him chemo though. |
| 23:54 | <@Mantisking> | He was sedated so they could do a biopsy so he's still kinda lethargic right now. |
| 23:55 | <@Soren> | yeah. Well, I was more referring to the fact that once you know he's got cancer it's a matter of ti,e. |
| 23:55 | <@Soren> | time* |
| 23:55 | < Dukayn> | Sorry to hear kitty isn't well, Matis. |
| 23:55 | <@Mantisking> | Ah. |
| 23:55 | <@Mantisking> | Thanks, Duke. |
| 23:56 | <@Mantisking> | Yeah, you are right Soren. |
| 23:56 | <@Mantisking> | I'm not sure either of us is ready for the "Waht are we gonna do if..." conversation right now. |
| 23:56 | <+MittenNinja> | I |
| 23:56 | <@McMartin> | In the meantime, lots of attention. |
| 23:56 | <+MittenNinja> | Will be hoping for the best |
| 23:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey: Remember what I told you about Danni's gf last night? |
| 23:57 | <@Mantisking> | "what" I always stumble over that when typing quickly. |
| 23:57 | <@Soren> | Yeah. |
| 23:57 | <@Soren> | well, tuna is in my experience very effective for perking a cat up and making him want to eat. |
| 23:58 | <@Soren> | Our cat just goes berserk over it. You can hear her bonking her head on the dish to get the last little bits. |
| 23:58 | <@McMartin> | (For me, I always flip the last two letters in -tion words. I keep discovering new particles like the functino and the notino) |
| 23:58 | <@Soren> | *tink* *tink* *tink* |
| 23:59 | <%afny> | So I couldn't do it. I couldn't make a company with grunts. |
| 23:59 | <%afny> | All that talk about negative space and I was just full of shit. |
| 23:59 | <%afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7157954201/in/pool-438009@N25/lightbox/ |
| 23:59 | < Dukayn> | Ced23Ric: Yeah, the crazy chick? |
| 23:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dukey: Exactly. |
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