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| 00:39 | <@McMartin> | Lessons learned today: Ubuntu 9.04 does not install on a machine with 32MB of RAM. |
| 00:39 | <@Derakon> | What would bring you to try such a thing? |
| 00:40 | <@McMartin> | Installing it into a VM without checking its default configuration. |
| 00:41 | <@Derakon> | Ahh. |
| 00:41 | <@Derakon> | Will it even try? |
| 00:41 | <@McMartin> | The kernel panics more or less immediately. |
| 00:48 | < Tarinaky> | Normally you have to pass a switch or use a different kernel image on the CD. |
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| 03:51 | <@Consul> | You know... |
| 03:52 | <@Consul> | Something amazingly simple and yet stupid just occurred to me... |
| 03:52 | <@Consul> | And I don't know why I didn't remember that there have been other reports of sound-related computer lockups being caused by Pulse... |
| 03:52 | <@Consul> | So maybe, just maybe, the problems I've been having this entire time is with Pulse. |
| 03:53 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 03:53 | <@Consul> | Pulse is nice when it works, but when it doesn't, it's Satan's Plaything. |
| 03:54 | <@Consul> | It's worth an email to the LAU list, anyway. |
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| 04:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Consul> Pulse is nice when it works, but when it doesn't, it's Satan's Plaything. <-- too true |
| 04:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | And I've had a lot experience with it not working ;.; |
| 04:25 | | * Consul is busy chasing a junebug around his room... |
| 04:35 | <@Consul> | Got it@ |
| 04:35 | <@Consul> | ! |
| 04:36 | <@Consul> | Let's hear it for a glass and a greeting card. |
| 04:36 | | * Consul waits for the "debugging" jokes. |
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| 05:20 | < Reiv> | Quick math question: |
| 05:21 | < Reiv> | Is a 40% chance every 4 seconds the same as a 30% chance every 3? |
| 05:22 | < Reiv> | I'm not sure how to work the math out for such a probability-over-time thing. |
| 05:23 | | * Reiv pokes Vornicus experimentally, he's good at this. |
| 05:23 | <@Derakon> | Depends on how long you iterate over and what you mean by "40% chance every 4 seconds". |
| 05:23 | <@Consul> | Blargh. Another f***ing junebug. |
| 05:23 | <@Vornicus> | Reiv: no. |
| 05:23 | < Reiv> | I have a progression I'm trying to look at. |
| 05:23 | <@Consul> | Now I have to wait for it to take flight again. |
| 05:23 | < Reiv> | It grants a 20/30/30 chance to have something happen every 4/4/3 seconds. |
| 05:24 | < Reiv> | I'm trying to work out whether that would be roughly equivalent to 20/30/40% chance over 4/4/4 seconds, or the like. |
| 05:24 | <@Vornicus> | The difference is mostly the standard deviation though. |
| 05:24 | < Reiv> | Because that progression is bloody strange and hurts my head to do the math. |
| 05:25 | < Reiv> | What's it do to the standard deviation, then? |
| 05:26 | <@Vornicus> | The averages are both 6 per minute; the standard deviations are sqrt(20*0.3*0.7) = 2.049 vs sqrt(15*0.4*0.7) = 1.897 |
| 05:26 | <@Vornicus> | erp, 0.6 on the last, but I typed into Google correctly. |
| 05:26 | < Reiv> | right. That's good to know. |
| 05:26 | <@Vornicus> | (so still 1.897) |
| 05:27 | < Reiv> | So the second is both a more logical progression, and more reliable too? |
| 05:28 | <@Vornicus> | Well, the latter is "tighter" - it's more likely to give you 6 per minute than the former. |
| 05:28 | <@Vornicus> | But strictly speaking they're not equivalent. |
| 05:29 | | * Vornicus fiddles with Excel. |
| 05:33 | < Reiv> | Well, I don't mind the standard deviation so much |
| 05:33 | | * GeekSoldier is feeling strong in his excel-fu, having created a new automated DA6 in it. |
| 05:34 | < Reiv> | It was more the 'do these average out the same in effect' type deal. |
| 05:37 | <@GeekSoldier> | Vorn, if you need some obscenely nested iF() statements, I can certainly help! |
| 05:38 | < Reiv> | Okay, transferring computers. Feel free to keep answering; I'll pick 'em up. |
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| 05:40 | <@Vornicus> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/7861878@N06/3553516592/ |
| 05:41 | <@Vornicus> | oh look I have a flickr account. |
| 05:41 | <@Vornicus> | Geek: my excel-fu is strong. |
| 05:41 | <@Vornicus> | Like, I get paid to teach others. |
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| 05:43 | <@Vornicus> | Eh. In the end it's a pretty subtle effect. |
| 05:44 | <@Derakon> | Vorn: You have a Flickr account...and you're using it to show graphs. |
| 05:44 | <@Derakon> | I...I could say I was surprised, but... |
| 05:44 | <@Vornicus> | Der: Yeah, I'm a nerd. |
| 05:44 | <@Vornicus> | It could be worse. |
| 05:44 | <@Vornicus> | It could be a DA account. |
| 05:44 | <@Derakon> | Hee. |
| 05:45 | <@Vornicus> | or, worse still, an FA account. |
| 05:45 | <@Derakon> | I think FA might complain about the lack of sex. |
| 05:48 | <@GeekSoldier> | Vorn: groovy. I get paid merely to impress the less sophisticated |
| 05:50 | <@Consul> | DA and FA? (be prepared to revoke my geek creds...) |
| 05:50 | <@Vornicus> | DeviantArt and FurAffinity |
| 05:50 | <@Derakon> | DeviantArt and FurAffinity. |
| 05:51 | | * Vornicus wins. |
| 05:51 | <@Consul> | Oh, okay. |
| 05:51 | <@Derakon> | You forgot your punctuation~ |
| 05:51 | <@Consul> | DA I should've known. |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | piffle. |
| 05:51 | <@Consul> | That second one, I'm glad I did not know. |
| 05:54 | | * Derakon snerks at the cast page. "Duke Strinbeck: One of the people behind the false Heterodyne. Currently learning to fly after threatening to have the airship crew flayed alive." |
| 05:54 | <@Derakon> | Mischan. |
| 05:55 | <@Consul> | Girl Genius fan here as well. :-) |
| 05:56 | | * Vornicus has tried repeatedly to get into GG but can't seem to get past about 20 comics. |
| 05:56 | <@Consul> | I started buying it at the comic stand long before it became an online comic. |
| 06:00 | <@Vornicus> | Also, reasons I am glad I have a mac: I installed the developer tools. The same way I would install anything else. And I didn't have to reboot. |
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| 06:04 | <@Consul> | Why does the package containing the FLV codec depend upon the package containing firewire audio device drivers? |
| 06:05 | <@Consul> | Especially considering I don't have anything plugged into firewire, or any firewire device whatsoever sitting around. |
| 06:05 | <@Derakon> | Poor separation of libraries? |
| 06:05 | <@Vornicus> | whut |
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| 06:12 | <@Consul> | I think my junebug either got trapped somewhere or finally died. Either way... |
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| 06:21 | <@Consul> | Damn things a week early, anyway. |
| 06:23 | <@Reiver> | Vorn: That's a pretty awesome graph. |
| 06:23 | | * Reiver ponders |
| 06:24 | <@Vornicus> | Reiver: it was not a hard graph to make. |
| 06:25 | <@Reiver> | Aye, but it answered my question nicely. |
| 06:25 | <@Reiver> | And also demonstrated just how little difference was between the two. |
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| 06:53 | | * Vornicus gnaws the universe. |
| 07:01 | | * Vornicus declares Bed. |
| 07:02 | <@Derakon> | Night, Vorn. |
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