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| 00:17 | <~McMartin> | afny: That sounds like you might be giving him |
| 00:17 | <~McMartin> | :shades: |
| 00:17 | <~McMartin> | cavalier treatment |
| 00:29 | < afny> | heh |
| 00:32 | < afny> | I'd argue that his attitude toward his own religion is cavalier |
| 00:33 | < afny> | but I am a bit flippant |
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| 02:08 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Yo. |
| 02:48 | <@randolph> | Hey FF |
| 02:54 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | How's things? |
| 02:56 | <@randolph> | Good, prepping for a demo tomorrow |
| 02:57 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Cool. What type of companies are you taking? |
| 02:59 | <@randolph> | One Direct-Fire heavy defender company, one HtH-heavy attacker company, and one specialist point company |
| 02:59 | <@randolph> | 3/4 (-1 system)/4 |
| 03:05 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Sounds good. |
| 03:10 | <@randolph> | Any suggestions? |
| 03:26 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Not really. I'm personal looking into what would me good builds for demos. |
| 03:26 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Want to start running them soon. |
| 03:27 | < afny> | I think Malcolm's demo builds look pretty good so far |
| 03:27 | < afny> | good place to start anyway |
| 03:28 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | That's what I was thinking, too. |
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| 05:38 | < addking> | evenin |
| 05:43 | <@randolph> | hey |
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| 18:37 | <+MittenNinja> | sup afny? |
| 18:38 | < afny> | o/ |
| 18:38 | <@randolph> | Hey MN |
| 18:38 | <@randolph> | Heyafny |
| 18:38 | < afny> | Watching The King and the Mocking Bird but it's loading very slowly so I have to take breaks |
| 18:38 | < afny> | how goes your commissions? |
| 18:40 | <+MittenNinja> | so far so good! |
| 18:41 | <+MittenNinja> | im almost done with one, and just started another. Then there's the first one I got which is going to take quite a while to finish |
| 18:41 | < afny> | the chess one? |
| 18:41 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 18:41 | < afny> | what are they other two, if you can talk about them? |
| 18:41 | <+MittenNinja> | I've got the pawn, rook, and knight finished |
| 18:41 | < afny> | the* |
| 18:41 | <+MittenNinja> | just a couple companies |
| 18:42 | <+MittenNinja> | one of them is a group of iguana variants |
| 18:42 | <+MittenNinja> | and the other is still being fleshed out |
| 18:43 | <+MittenNinja> | i get to do sand green/dark bley with that one :) |
| 18:45 | < afny> | loaded client I take it |
| 18:48 | <+MittenNinja> | I'm mostly going to be using 1x2 tiles and wedges, which aren't that much more expensive in sand green |
| 18:48 | <+MittenNinja> | its' the dishes and headlights that get ridiculous |
| 18:48 | <+MittenNinja> | and i already have a crapton of them on hand |
| 18:49 | <+MittenNinja> | so finding them on bricklink wont be an issue |
| 18:49 | < addking> | 5 or 8 per company? |
| 18:51 | <+MittenNinja> | 5 on the iguanas and 6 on the other |
| 18:51 | <@randolph> | Skirmish / small battle sized |
| 18:51 | <@randolph> | I wonder how many people go for the full 8 |
| 18:52 | <+MittenNinja> | once you add a third player you can no longer field 8 |
| 18:52 | <+MittenNinja> | once you add the 4th it drops to 6 |
| 18:52 | <+MittenNinja> | as more and more people play I see the average number of frames in a company dropping |
| 18:53 | <+MittenNinja> | 5-6 is pretty solid if you're playing with multiple people |
| 18:53 | < addking> | I could only field 8 in one company personally - altho I have a couple frames, i could 'float' between companies, as they have their own look. I have yet to field more than 6. |
| 18:54 | < addking> | my 'normal' group (as much as I can say that) is only 3 of us right now. |
| 18:54 | <+MittenNinja> | Yeah, as my group got bigger I found myself planning for 5 frame companies more often |
| 18:55 | <+MittenNinja> | even some 4 or 3 frame ones |
| 18:55 | < afny> | so far I've just been building 9 or 10 frames |
| 18:55 | < afny> | and then coming up with different loadouts |
| 18:55 | < afny> | some that involve only four frames |
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| 18:56 | < afny> | it usually takes me about ten frames to get the company's aesthetic down |
| 18:56 | < afny> | or in some cases, complete rebuilds of the company |
| 18:56 | < addking> | well the VoP rebuild turned out nice man. |
| 18:57 | <+MittenNinja> | for sure |
| 18:57 | <+MittenNinja> | I've rebuilt my fat snaks a few times |
| 18:57 | <+MittenNinja> | I think I'm finally completely happy with them |
| 18:57 | < addking> | I saw the new O6 post with the chain of command |
| 18:58 | <+MittenNinja> | awesome! |
| 18:58 | < afny> | thanks AK |
| 18:58 | < afny> | still need to make a few changes to that company though |
| 18:58 | <+MittenNinja> | I still want to make a MgN fat snake in all dark green and give it some ridiculous loadout |
| 18:58 | < afny> | mainly replacing all the orange 1x1s in their cores with black |
| 18:59 | < afny> | do it like the AA MgN |
| 18:59 | < addking> | those orange 1x1's ended up defining my 'Ijad' colors |
| 18:59 | < afny> | I told myself they made the frames look cool LIKE ANIME when I was doing it |
| 18:59 | < afny> | but I knew deep down that it was just because I didn't have enough of an innocuous color |
| 18:59 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, i've done that too |
| 19:00 | < addking> | ah, i'm down with the orange. it pops on the table. |
| 19:00 | < afny> | it bothers me more on some of them than others |
| 19:00 | < afny> | I think it totally ruins the tan and yellow one, for instance |
| 19:00 | < afny> | but it looks good on the grey/blue ones |
| 19:01 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah it looks great with blue |
| 19:01 | < huhwhozat> | addking: I want orange 1x1's! |
| 19:01 | <+MittenNinja> | a little bit of orange makes the blu really pop |
| 19:01 | < afny> | they're pretty common on PAB walls right now |
| 19:01 | < addking> | yeah my crew is 'creamsickle' colors: white, orange, with light/dk bley's and black. |
| 19:01 | < huhwhozat> | which frames are under discussion? |
| 19:01 | <+MittenNinja> | afny's VoP company |
| 19:02 | < afny> | I'll find you the thread |
| 19:02 | < addking> | could be worse afny - my 2nd choice to orange was trans blue - since the PAB had lots. |
| 19:02 | < huhwhozat> | found it on flikr |
| 19:02 | < afny> | I dont think that's it |
| 19:02 | < afny> | I've rebuilt that company twice |
| 19:03 | < afny> | the flikr set is build 2 I believe |
| 19:03 | < huhwhozat> | so not http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7348933060/in/set-72157630074737696 ? |
| 19:03 | < afny> | yeah, that's old |
| 19:03 | < afny> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1657 |
| 19:04 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 19:04 | <@randolph> | that flame tile is a nice touch |
| 19:04 | < afny> | addking: I love white with a neon color accent |
| 19:04 | < afny> | I got a ton of 1x2 lime green tiles at PAB |
| 19:04 | <@randolph> | (on the Ares) |
| 19:04 | < afny> | and I want to use them in a white/dark bley company |
| 19:04 | <@randolph> | Ugh, I can't stand the lime :| |
| 19:04 | < afny> | it's horrible in large ammounts |
| 19:04 | < afny> | but I like it as an accent |
| 19:04 | < addking> | I have a fistful as well, but could only manage the lime on a couple chubs, with purple and black. |
| 19:04 | <@randolph> | I know it's a personal taste thing, afny, I just hate lime :p |
| 19:05 | < afny> | yea |
| 19:05 | < afny> | I've ranted against it before |
| 19:05 | <@randolph> | It reminds me horribly of the early 90s |
| 19:05 | < afny> | I think you have to throw in a lot of cool colors |
| 19:05 | < afny> | to get away from that vomit inducing 90's feel |
| 19:05 | < afny> | thus the dark bley |
| 19:08 | <@randolph> | Black and Lime! |
| 19:08 | <@randolph> | ;x |
| 19:08 | < afny> | that's very 90's |
| 19:08 | < addking> | I have a pile of lime 1x1 bricks, that I haven't been able to figure out what to do with. :p |
| 19:08 | < afny> | I don't like black and lime at all |
| 19:08 | <@randolph> | (I know, I was joking) |
| 19:08 | < afny> | yeah, I got a few 1x1 in orange and lime |
| 19:08 | < afny> | as well as the tiles |
| 19:09 | <@randolph> | Black and Lime is like "Early 90's, the T-Shirt" |
| 19:09 | < addking> | That's not an unfair statement. But I have these purple pieces... |
| 19:09 | < afny> | well, don't get me wrong |
| 19:09 | <@randolph> | Purple is great, though |
| 19:09 | < afny> | I LOVE horrible 90's color schemes |
| 19:09 | <@randolph> | ; ; |
| 19:09 | < afny> | but it's a guilty pleasure. |
| 19:10 | < afny> | like trashy romance novels |
| 19:10 | < afny> | I have no illusions about their quality |
| 19:10 | < addking> | haha |
| 19:10 | <@randolph> | hee |
| 19:10 | <@randolph> | ok, take care guys, I'm off to chores and then demo |
| 19:11 | < addking> | demo game today? |
| 19:11 | < addking> | cool, make some MoFos. |
| 19:12 | < huhwhozat> | addking: you could give them to me! |
| 19:12 | < huhwhozat> | cya randolph |
| 19:13 | < addking> | hurting for bricks huh? |
| 19:13 | < huhwhozat> | YES! |
| 19:13 | < huhwhozat> | :P |
| 19:13 | < huhwhozat> | what do you guys think of black with white&orange highlights |
| 19:14 | < huhwhozat> | I need some orange 1x1 tiles though... |
| 19:14 | <+MittenNinja> | that should look pretty good |
| 19:14 | < addking> | that'd be great with me, but it's mostly dependant on what parts are black |
| 19:14 | < huhwhozat> | the majority will be black, with things like T-pieces being lt bley ofc. |
| 19:15 | < huhwhozat> | whoops, off to Wally world. |
| 19:15 | < huhwhozat> | later guys! |
| 19:15 | < addking> | k cya. |
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| 19:21 | <+MittenNinja> | Malcolm! whats up man? |
| 19:22 | < Malcolm> | Question for everyone from a rank IRC amateur: how do you do that thing where you have a private channel to talk to one person? No ulterior motive, I'm just curious because people have done it with me, and I never thought to ask |
| 19:23 | <+MittenNinja> | type "/msg (username) andthentextgoeshere |
| 19:23 | <+MittenNinja> | without the quote obviously |
| 19:23 | < Malcolm> | Aha, thanks |
| 19:23 | <+MittenNinja> | so for example "/msg Malcolm whuddup sucka?" |
| 19:23 | < afny> | it just auto-opens a window once you do that |
| 19:23 | <+MittenNinja> | wait |
| 19:24 | <+MittenNinja> | nvm |
| 19:24 | <+MittenNinja> | im dumb |
| 19:24 | <+MittenNinja> | ignore the wait |
| 19:24 | <+MittenNinja> | NOTHING TO SEE HERE |
| 19:24 | < addking> | in a lot of clients, you just double click the person in the user list, it spawns the personal/private window as well. |
| 19:25 | < addking> | nvm, you saw it |
| 19:25 | < afny> | colloquy even has rightclick options |
| 19:25 | < afny> | it's very user friendly |
| 19:25 | < Malcolm> | Aha, I'm just going through my browser. I feel there may be something I'm missing |
| 19:26 | < addking> | yeah there is much to be gained by using a proper client |
| 19:26 | < Malcolm> | Righty |
| 19:26 | < afny> | what OS do you use? |
| 19:26 | < Malcolm> | As I said, rank amateur |
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| 19:26 | < Malcolm> | Mac OS X Snow Leopard |
| 19:26 | < afny> | AHA! |
| 19:26 | < afny> | then get colloquy |
| 19:27 | < afny> | simple to set up, it saves your servers/logins |
| 19:27 | < afny> | and has a great UI |
| 19:27 | < Malcolm> | Grand, will do! |
| 19:27 | < Malcolm> | Thanks everyone for the info |
| 19:27 | <+MittenNinja> | np |
| 19:29 | < Malcolm> | You'll probably get a stream of invective shortly as I totally fail to drive this thing properly |
| 19:29 | < addking> | don't feel bad, I got banned from a lot of channels learning MiRC back in the day |
| 19:30 | < addking> | and it was very frustrating since there was content I was after |
| 19:30 | < afny> | Hardcore IRC users swear by mirc and are generally afraid of new technology |
| 19:30 | < afny> | ironically |
| 19:30 | < afny> | I think mirc is a pretty horrible program by modern standards |
| 19:30 | < addking> | yeah i'm running hydra atm, cuz I wasn't sure what the 'new' good |
| 19:31 | <+MittenNinja> | i just use the web client |
| 19:31 | <+MittenNinja> | it works well enough |
| 19:31 | < afny> | hydra is what I use on my windows partition |
| 19:31 | < afny> | Not as user friendly as colloquy, but still decent |
| 19:31 | < afny> | web clients are a good thing for IRC |
| 19:33 | < Malcolm> | Anyhow, must go start cooking. Thanks for the info. I'm already baffled, but that should just lead me to the conclusion that reading the user guide is not necessarily a bad thing |
| 19:34 | < afny> | all you should really need is the server and channel name, which I assume the web client provides for you |
| 19:34 | < afny> | just add irc.nightstar.net to your "new connections" list |
| 19:34 | < afny> | or it might just be the button that says "connect" |
| 19:34 | < afny> | and after you pick a nickname, you can just join the channel "mf0" |
| 19:35 | < afny> | er, or you can just type irc.nightstar.net/mf0 as the server, and it will autojoin you |
| 19:35 | < addking> | yup |
| 19:35 | < Malcolm> | The important thing to remember is this: when it comes to anything technical, I'm a fucking idiot |
| 19:36 | < afny> | irc is a bit confusing for people who have only ever used chat programs that are dictated by a client |
| 19:36 | < addking> | consider this tho: most things are easier with the proper tools |
| 19:37 | < Malcolm> | Like cooking! Which I can actually do! But, I will contiue with this tomorrow. First, food, then off to see Mick Foley do stand up comedy at the Edinburgh Festical. yes, really, THAT MIck Foley |
| 19:37 | < addking> | it better involve folding chairs |
| 19:37 | < Malcolm> | Festival, rather than festical. We banned the festical after all those fatalities |
| 19:37 | < afny> | Ouch. |
| 19:38 | < afny> | right in the festicles. |
| 19:38 | <+MittenNinja> | lol |
| 19:39 | < Malcolm> | Right in several festicals. No one looks back fondly on that decade, I can tell you |
| 19:44 | < addking> | goddamn, i need a digital camera. |
| 19:47 | < addking> | or a cell phone made this century |
| 19:47 | <+MittenNinja> | how much are you looking to spend? |
| 19:48 | < addking> | lol. nothing? ;) |
| 19:48 | <+MittenNinja> | :p |
| 19:48 | < addking> | I'll be trying to keep it in the 50 bucks range |
| 19:48 | < addking> | at least for starters |
| 19:49 | <+MittenNinja> | you're not going to find a whole lot for around there. |
| 19:49 | <+MittenNinja> | Not new anyways |
| 19:49 | <+MittenNinja> | you might be able to find a used one |
| 19:49 | < afny> | wat |
| 19:50 | <+MittenNinja> | if you want a decent camera |
| 19:50 | < afny> | you can get a decent point and shoot for 50 easy |
| 19:50 | <+MittenNinja> | eh, depends on how you define decent |
| 19:51 | < afny> | well, my standards are low I suppose |
| 19:51 | < addking> | well, i have owned plenty of old school film camers in the 20 dollar range then... |
| 19:52 | < afny> | if you take the time to do research |
| 19:52 | < afny> | you can get a point and shoot that's analogous to a cheap, reliable film camera for 40-50 bucks used |
| 19:52 | < afny> | there are a LOT of shitty ones, though |
| 19:52 | <+MittenNinja> | if you want film? Hell yeah you can. |
| 19:52 | < addking> | nay on film these days. :P |
| 19:52 | <+MittenNinja> | there are a lot of crappy digital point and shoots out there |
| 19:52 | < afny> | yeah, sooo many |
| 19:53 | < afny> | but the good ones aren't necessarily more expensive |
| 19:53 | <+MittenNinja> | if you can manage, anything from either Nikon or Cannon will be good |
| 19:53 | < afny> | just gotta do research |
| 19:53 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 19:53 | <+MittenNinja> | DSLRs are where it's at though |
| 19:54 | < afny> | definitely can't get a good dslr for 50 bucks |
| 19:54 | <+MittenNinja> | nope |
| 19:54 | < addking> | k, i don't know what that is |
| 19:54 | <+MittenNinja> | Digital Single Lens Reflection |
| 19:55 | <+MittenNinja> | basically a semi-professional camera with removeable lens' |
| 19:55 | < addking> | is that the current 'gold' standard? |
| 19:55 | < afny> | it was the gold standard even before digital cameras, really |
| 19:55 | <+MittenNinja> | it gives you the most options |
| 19:55 | <+MittenNinja> | shutter speed, iso, white balance, exposure settings |
| 19:55 | <+MittenNinja> | etc |
| 19:56 | <+MittenNinja> | plus with different lens' you can achieve a lot of cool shots |
| 19:56 | <+MittenNinja> | and you can use filters and such |
| 19:56 | <+MittenNinja> | granted those cost more money to get too :p |
| 19:56 | < afny> | unless you want to get into photography as a hobby and really learn about your camera |
| 19:56 | < afny> | you really don't need one |
| 19:56 | < afny> | just to take pictures of lego |
| 19:56 | <+MittenNinja> | true |
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| 19:57 | <+MittenNinja> | but its totally worth the time and money investment if you take pictures |
| 19:57 | < addking> | i was gonna say, i have a friend who is a photographer |
| 19:57 | < addking> | but I'm not looking for art levels here, i'm aiming at bricks. =/ |
| 19:58 | < addking> | photoshop/gimp is more in my baliwick then lens/filters |
| 19:58 | < afny> | the only problem I've found with cheap point and shoot cameras when it comes to lego is white balance |
| 19:58 | < afny> | you're pretty much limited to presets |
| 19:59 | < afny> | but the crappy camera i'm using now that has presets that are good enough, and I can do the rest of the color editing in PS if I need to |
| 19:59 | < addking> | altho i suppose a few lessons for free, wouldn't bust my ass. |
| 20:02 | <+MittenNinja> | Yeah, the nice thing about having a DSLR is that you have to do very little or no editing in PS |
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| 20:06 | < afny> | I very, very rarely do any ps editing even with my point and shoot |
| 20:06 | < afny> | but then again, my standards are low. |
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| 20:19 | < addking> | working it out |
| 20:21 | < Malcolm> | So, I had a pretty fun demo of the game today |
| 20:22 | < Malcolm> | Also: loads of people stopped and asked questions, wanted more info, etc |
| 20:22 | < Malcolm> | So, pretty positive all round |
| 20:23 | < addking> | you take the kit you last mentioned on the forum? |
| 20:23 | < Malcolm> | Yes, indee I did |
| 20:23 | < Malcolm> | indeed, rather |
| 20:23 | < Malcolm> | Although, embarrassingly, I won the game. Despite trying not to. I was ridiculously lucky with the dice |
| 20:24 | < addking> | as long as it wasn't a complete beatdown |
| 20:25 | < Malcolm> | The other guys were making some solid tactical decisions, but I just had the luck. It ended up 30/27/21 |
| 20:25 | < Malcolm> | I had started as the middle team |
| 20:25 | < addking> | that's not bad |
| 20:25 | < addking> | it's the really lopsided ones that can turn someone off |
| 20:25 | < Malcolm> | The guy on primary offense was so close to pulling it out of the fire. |
| 20:26 | < Malcolm> | I think he only realised half way through that you need to concentrate your fire on one unit at a time if you can. |
| 20:26 | < Malcolm> | He did some pretty great station taking, though |
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| 21:45 | <@randolph> | That sounds great,too bad Malcolm'sgone |
| 21:45 | <@randolph> | I wanted to ask him for some lessons learned before my demo tonight |
| 22:51 | < addking> | did he post about it? |
| 22:51 | <@randolph> | not that I saw |
| 22:51 | <@randolph> | He mentioned 3 hours ago that he did a demo, but didn't post anything |
| 22:52 | <@randolph> | I came back early from chores, tightened up one of the stations, and am about to head out for the actual demo |
| 22:54 | < afny> | He went out to a festival |
| 22:54 | < afny> | I think he lost his SD card as well so I dunno if there are pics |
| 22:54 | < addking> | good luck. I'm gonna see if I can get another friend to give it a try tomorrow. |
| 22:54 | < addking> | not a 'demo' per se, but might score another local |
| 22:57 | <@randolph> | ah ok |
| 22:57 | <@randolph> | I just wanted to ask if he had any last minute advice |
| 22:59 | < addking> | well hopefully you both post in that thread afterwards with some impressions/advice. I am planning a demo at the local comic shop, but haven't had time to work out 'when' with the owner yet. he's a friend tho. |
| 23:00 | <@randolph> | I'll definitely do so, and I remembered my camera this time |
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