| --- Log opened Sat Jun 23 00:00:36 2012 |
| 00:03 | <+Tetrajak> | sorry, was looking at txts from dog |
| 00:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_hhbg.png |
| 00:04 | <+Tetrajak> | Ced: I like this melee chub |
| 00:04 | <+Tetrajak> | now I am off |
| 00:04 | <+Tetrajak> | ttyl folks |
| 00:04 | | Tetrajak [NSwebIRC@Nightstar-5d36f84e.telstraclear.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: ] |
| 00:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | There's the HH version. |
| 00:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_dfhyb.png |
| 00:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Closer version. |
| 00:15 | <+afny> | what is that part? |
| 00:16 | <+afny> | the barrel I mean |
| 00:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Uhm, a cylinder. Sec. |
| 00:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=87617 |
| 00:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | They are like 8 cents a pop. |
| 00:17 | <+afny> | huh. |
| 00:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | Come in black, red and yellow. |
| 00:17 | <+afny> | i'll add them to my list |
| 00:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_dfyybr.png |
| 00:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Captain variant. |
| 00:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/icebreaker_company.png |
| 00:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Groupshot. |
| 00:34 | <+afny> | pretty sweet |
| 00:34 | <+afny> | I can't believe I've never seen those cylinders before |
| 00:38 | <+afny> | Imma head to bed |
| 00:38 | | afny [kevinvankir@Nightstar-42c41d95.res.rr.com] has quit [Client exited] |
| 01:06 | | CaGeRit [x@Nightstar-f0d9c21f.hr.cox.net] has joined #mf0 |
| 01:06 | < CaGeRit> | Hey all. |
| 01:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya Cage! :) |
| 01:16 | < CaGeRit> | I'm turning 22 on tuesday!! (but we're celebrating tomarrow. |
| 01:16 | < CaGeRit> | tomorrow* |
| 01:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ooh. Got anything planned? |
| 01:17 | < CaGeRit> | Not really. |
| 01:18 | < CaGeRit> | It's just the most exciting thing in to happen in a while besides eat slep work repeat. |
| 01:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | I got just the song for you. |
| 01:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's "Eat, Sleep, Rave, Repeat". :D |
| 01:19 | < CaGeRit> | Not seeing it on youtube. |
| 01:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, that's just the lyrics. Lemme find it. |
| 01:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Damn. |
| 01:22 | < CaGeRit> | It's ok, I'm not really a party person anyway. |
| 01:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, it's Fatboy Slim & Mr. Magnetik - Remanence. |
| 01:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | But YT fails to produce it. |
| 01:24 | < CaGeRit> | Heh my top youtube searches are miranda lambert, blake shelton, kenny chesney and the silent comedy. |
| 01:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 01:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh well. |
| 01:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have such a problem, dude. |
| 01:25 | < CaGeRit> | Not a country fan eh? |
| 01:25 | < CaGeRit> | Problem? |
| 01:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Don't tickle my fancy much, nah. |
| 01:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Like ... I don't hate country or anything. |
| 01:25 | < CaGeRit> | Ok you need 2 cups of bleach, a leafe bag and a hacksaw. |
| 01:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | I built a new sniper rifle. |
| 01:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | And I have no 'frame to use it on. |
| 01:26 | < CaGeRit> | lol |
| 01:26 | < CaGeRit> | Is it a big rifle? |
| 01:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | But of course. :D |
| 01:26 | < CaGeRit> | Gimme a sec, I might refind a picutre I last saw about a year ago of a mech with an awesome stabiliation design for shooting big guns. |
| 01:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, my 'frame can hold it. |
| 01:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | No problem. |
| 01:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Superchubs with 1x3 plates as feet are insanely stable. |
| 01:27 | < CaGeRit> | WEll no suprise I can't find it, I'm not talking about model stabilization, but a like recoil stabilazaton. |
| 01:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ah! |
| 01:28 | < CaGeRit> | It was bipedal, but had a sort of backpack which folded down and anchored it while it fired. |
| 01:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's not that big. |
| 01:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Think Barret light 50. |
| 01:30 | < CaGeRit> | That is not a small gun. |
| 01:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nope. |
| 01:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | But it's a 'frame. :D |
| 01:31 | <@randolph> | hey guys |
| 01:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya Randy. |
| 01:32 | < CaGeRit> | http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/ptrd41_01.jpg |
| 01:32 | < CaGeRit> | want |
| 01:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | You want a potentially Polish anti-tank rifle? |
| 01:33 | < CaGeRit> | Russian. |
| 01:34 | < CaGeRit> | If I ever get my class 3 that is the first thing I will try to aquire. |
| 01:34 | <@Soren> | gopher problem, hunh? |
| 01:34 | < CaGeRit> | Nah, I jsut have a small wiener. |
| 01:35 | <@Soren> | fair enough. |
| 01:35 | <@Soren> | I used to know a crazy fucker who would shoot prairie dogs with a light .50. |
| 01:35 | < CaGeRit> | Rofl. |
| 01:35 | <@Soren> | Total maniac. |
| 01:35 | < CaGeRit> | Yea. |
| 01:36 | < CaGeRit> | Up at aberdeen they would take a 50 cal up and strafe the woods after a rain to keep the deer population under control. |
| 01:36 | <@Soren> | They didn't so much die as they exploded like water balloons full of uncooked meatloaf. |
| 01:36 | <@Soren> | Made his dog happy, though. |
| 01:36 | < CaGeRit> | A well fed dog is a happy dog. |
| 01:37 | <@Soren> | precisely. |
| 01:37 | < CaGeRit> | I don't think I'd actualy ever shoot it because A: I'd have to get the ammunition custom made which is $$$ and B: They were made 70 years ago in russia. |
| 01:38 | <@Soren> | Pretty good for intimidating your kid's date down the line, though. |
| 01:38 | < CaGeRit> | True true. |
| 01:38 | <@Soren> | "Hurt my daughter, and I use this on you." |
| 01:38 | < CaGeRit> | Its 14.5mm |
| 01:38 | <@Soren> | "It's made to shoot through tanks." |
| 01:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | "I'm just saying." |
| 01:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | "No pressure." |
| 01:38 | <@Soren> | Oh, you can still get ammo for those. |
| 01:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | "Be back at ten." |
| 01:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 01:39 | < CaGeRit> | You can get the ammo for just about anything. |
| 01:39 | <@Soren> | there are a couple of machine guns chambered for the same caliber. |
| 01:39 | < CaGeRit> | It just costs a bit if it hasto be made. |
| 01:39 | <@Soren> | Well, and if it's Russian, there's a shitload of ammo for it sitting in a warehouse somewhere. |
| 01:39 | < CaGeRit> | Lol |
| 01:39 | < CaGeRit> | I also think it used to have a problem where the bolt came unlatched and the 14.5mm recoil would smash it into the shooters shoulder. |
| 01:40 | <@Soren> | not shocking. |
| 01:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_dfyybr.png <-- Soren. Tried a new take on the same base. |
| 01:40 | < CaGeRit> | or face |
| 01:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's the carbine he holds: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/tem_rifle2.png |
| 01:40 | <@Soren> | hmm. A little chinless for me. |
| 01:40 | < CaGeRit> | Is the backpack a missle launcher or an AMS? |
| 01:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | CaGeRit: It's both. A Y and an SSR. |
| 01:41 | < CaGeRit> | Ahh |
| 01:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | A sensor dome with an SSR on the side. |
| 01:41 | < CaGeRit> | When some one sends you a message can everyone see it? |
| 01:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm? |
| 01:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | You mean, when I send " CaGeRit: " in front? |
| 01:41 | < CaGeRit> | yea |
| 01:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's just me designating the line. |
| 01:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's a habit, to avoid confusion. |
| 01:41 | < CaGeRit> | Ahh. |
| 01:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | A substitute for looking at you while talking, if you will. |
| 01:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Other variants include @ CaGeRit, or <CaGeRit> Ahh. <--- Something like this. |
| 01:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | But I found that "name:" does it quite nicely. |
| 01:42 | < CaGeRit> | @@ced234ic test |
| 01:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 01:42 | < CaGeRit> | @ced234ic test |
| 01:43 | < CaGeRit> | @ced23ric test |
| 01:43 | < CaGeRit> | Ha |
| 01:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | If you want to send a private message, you type /msg Ced23Ric text goes here. |
| 01:43 | < CaGeRit> | and that opens up a new window\ |
| 01:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yupp. |
| 01:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | And that's just you and I. |
| 01:44 | < CaGeRit> | Or you me and whoever I have in the room observing you. |
| 01:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, no. |
| 01:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Those only go two ways. |
| 01:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | But these here are everyone in the room. |
| 01:44 | < CaGeRit> | I meant my room |
| 01:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/chub_axe.png <-- AXE. |
| 01:44 | < CaGeRit> | Watching over my shoulder |
| 01:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | You ... have no room. |
| 01:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | The window between you and I is a "query". |
| 01:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's a two point connection, noone can actually leave or join. |
| 01:45 | < CaGeRit> | I mean the meatspace room. |
| 01:46 | < CaGeRit> | The one I'm sitting in drinking tea |
| 01:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh. |
| 01:46 | < CaGeRit> | While talking on textual |
| 01:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | IRL. :D |
| 01:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | "in real life" |
| 01:46 | < CaGeRit> | There is no IRL we are all in the machine. |
| 01:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | D: |
| 01:46 | < CaGeRit> | You don't understand if you die IRL, you die in real life too!! |
| 01:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have more sniper rifles than I need. |
| 01:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | This is horrible. |
| 01:47 | < CaGeRit> | Rofl. |
| 01:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | WHY CAN'T I JUST HAVE UNLIMITED AMOUNTS OF 'FRAMES. |
| 01:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren, I have to admit something. |
| 01:47 | < CaGeRit> | Because you don't have an unlimited amount of money. |
| 01:47 | <@Soren> | hmm? |
| 01:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have yet to come across a single 'frame that produces the same desire to build it again and again as your Chub. |
| 01:48 | < CaGeRit> | Did soren invent the chub? |
| 01:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | I mean, yeah, sure, I do those heavy articulated arms and such. But the base is so ingeniously versatile. |
| 01:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 01:48 | < CaGeRit> | Cool. |
| 01:48 | <@Soren> | Unless Joshua paid someone else to put all these pictures on my machine with my parts while I was alseep. |
| 01:48 | <@Soren> | sleep* |
| 01:49 | <@Soren> | That would be super weird. |
| 01:49 | < CaGeRit> | Its like I'm talking to a celebrity, but not a famous one, like one that only certain people even know exists. |
| 01:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren invented the Chub, HiLeg/HiLeg Officer, Scrambler, Conscript and Commissar. (And much, much more) |
| 01:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | He also made me do a purple company. |
| 01:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | He drove Kevin (afny) to diverse weapon designs. |
| 01:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | Started the station biznatch. |
| 01:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | Uhm ... what else. His FlickR is a Lego jerk-fest. :D |
| 01:50 | < CaGeRit> | I'm not sure I want to go to anything that is discribed as a "jerk-fest". |
| 01:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | And on a completely unrelated note, he is a pretty cool dude and don't afraid of anything. |
| 01:50 | <@randolph> | doesn't |
| 01:50 | <@randolph> | :colbert: |
| 01:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | Y U NO KNOW MEMES. |
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| 01:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | CaGeRit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/2887674589/in/photostream/ |
| 01:51 | <@randolph> | DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING |
| 01:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | This explains my point pretty well. |
| 01:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy: Oh wait. |
| 01:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | You are right. |
| 01:51 | | * Ced23Ric takes it back and claims the opposite. |
| 01:51 | <@Ced23Ric> | HA! |
| 01:51 | <@Soren> | flattery. |
| 01:51 | < CaGeRit> | That makes any space thing I have ever designed look like I ate legos and pooped them out. |
| 01:52 | <@Soren> | All lies and flattery. |
| 01:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well deserved flattery. |
| 01:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | CaGeRit: Yeah, Soren ... Soren's quite alright with Lego. |
| 01:52 | <@randolph> | Totally |
| 01:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/5928270411/in/set-72157627124862 315/ <-- This one is pretty, too. :D |
| 01:53 | <+MittenNinja> | Dude that carrier is even cooler in person |
| 01:53 | <+MittenNinja> | its friggin HUGE |
| 01:53 | <+MittenNinja> | That ones badass too |
| 01:53 | <+MittenNinja> | but that white carrier |
| 01:54 | <+MittenNinja> | oh man |
| 01:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, trust me. I have a sense of scale. :D |
| 01:54 | <+MittenNinja> | its bigger than it looks on the internet |
| 01:54 | <+MittenNinja> | (which is what she said) |
| 01:54 | <@Soren> | And here I am, wondering when I can get all these things shipped over to me. |
| 01:54 | <@Soren> | heh |
| 01:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | The heavy alcoholic lego shop owner at that store around the corner has one, too. His is minifig scale, though. |
| 01:54 | <@Soren> | To be fair, they were on a shelf well over your head, too. |
| 01:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | But same size as the Endurance. |
| 01:54 | <+MittenNinja> | true |
| 01:54 | <+MittenNinja> | but damn dude |
| 01:54 | <+MittenNinja> | those are killer |
| 01:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, Greg. |
| 01:55 | <+MittenNinja> | yessss? |
| 01:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | We did some ... FlickRation today. |
| 01:55 | < CaGeRit> | I finaly broke my not-feeling-like-painting-anything stint |
| 01:55 | < CaGeRit> | http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/tenebrae_shadow/Miniatures/SSU/?action= view¤t=DSCN0453.jpg |
| 01:55 | < CaGeRit> | I call this the "We don't need any stanking camo" scheme. |
| 01:55 | <@Soren> | Thanks. I'm hoping to expand on those designs in a few months. |
| 01:55 | <+MittenNinja> | FlickRatoin? |
| 01:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/80508136@N03/7383752354/in/pool-438009@N25/ <-- Looksies. |
| 01:55 | <+MittenNinja> | cant wait to see then man |
| 01:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/80508136@N03/7383664242/in/pool-438009@N25/ <--- Here. |
| 01:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/80508136@N03/7383732644/in/pool-438009@N25/ <-- And here. |
| 01:56 | <@randolph> | :| |
| 01:57 | <+MittenNinja> | haha |
| 01:57 | <+MittenNinja> | that was the forth floor, for the record |
| 01:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fuck if I know, dude. |
| 01:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | But I want my bras on the second. |
| 01:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | CAN'T TAKE FOREVER TO GET TO THE GOODS. |
| 01:57 | <+MittenNinja> | lol |
| 01:57 | < CaGeRit> | Man bras exist you know... |
| 01:57 | < CaGeRit> | http://www.google.com/imgres?q=man+bra&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&sa=N&rl s=en&biw=1436&bih=790&tbm=isch&tbnid=mrad3LGQQqD1WM:&imgrefurl=http://gizmodo.co m/5092694/man-bra-keeps-your-moobs-in-check/gallery/&docid=3b25JktSQGtuoM&imgurl =http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2011/11/f1d7b973e4baa7fdf1d967b94fa3c9 bb.jpg&w=494&h=497&ei=hxTlT5GEJaX02wWm2dXZCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=173&vpy=168&dur= 1867&hovh=225&hovw=224&tx=111&ty=107&sig=10082756148328 |
| 01:57 | < CaGeRit> | page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=130&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:88 |
| 01:58 | < CaGeRit> | Thanks to advanced japanese technology your moobs can be perky and attractive too. |
| 01:58 | <+MittenNinja> | oh i know |
| 01:59 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dafuq. |
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| 02:02 | < CaGeRit> | damn I didn't think it was that horrifying. |
| 02:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | What the hell. |
| 02:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's 3:07am. |
| 02:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | WHY AM I NOT TIRED. |
| 02:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am up since 7am. |
| 02:09 | < CaGeRit> | Do you do physical activity? |
| 02:09 | < CaGeRit> | Also if you stay up too late your internal clock is tricked into a second third and even fourth wind which can screw up your sleep schedual. |
| 02:10 | < CaGeRit> | I am fortunate that while my job is somewhat sedintary it has physical aspects which tire me out by the end of the day. |
| 02:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I am a system technician/administrator. |
| 02:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | The most physical stuff I did today way haul some PCs around. :D |
| 02:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Also: WTFballs is it with people trying to add LOS to MFZ? :D |
| 02:15 | < CaGeRit> | I'd get a tradmill/eliptical or hit the gym after work. |
| 02:15 | < CaGeRit> | Probably because they don't understand the deformation of terrain. |
| 02:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, or that LOS is already in the engine. |
| 02:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's just not there explicitly. |
| 02:16 | < CaGeRit> | I used to try and do that as well until it was described to me over irc |
| 02:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Fucks most veteran wargamers of other systems up. |
| 02:16 | < CaGeRit> | People are dumb, you can't infer it, you have tostate it somewhere. |
| 02:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, people default to what they know. |
| 02:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | And MFZ kind of goes a new way there. |
| 02:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | LOS is already in the rolls, which seems arbitrary at first, but it actually pans out nicely. |
| 02:17 | < CaGeRit> | I'd preface any explanation of terrain deformation with somthing that states that LOS is not used and this is why, put up some diagrams and reasure thegamer that it isalright and they will understand once they have played a game or two. |
| 02:18 | <+MittenNinja> | Theres a lot of things about this game that you dont really get until you play a game |
| 02:18 | <+MittenNinja> | just because theres so much that strays from the norm |
| 02:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Truth. |
| 02:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | I mean, I fell foul of it, too. |
| 02:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | My first serious posts here were discussing movement. |
| 02:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | And SCREAMING for consistent movement speeds. :D |
| 02:19 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 02:19 | <+MittenNinja> | i didnt really talk about the rules until i played a game |
| 02:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wanted my 6" of unit movement every turn. |
| 02:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | But I shut up, and thought I knew it all better. |
| 02:19 | < CaGeRit> | Very few people will hold up for their first game to discuss rules, its just how it is. |
| 02:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then I played a few games RAW. |
| 02:20 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 02:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | And ever since, I love this engine. |
| 02:20 | <+MittenNinja> | i figure the core of this game has been around for years |
| 02:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's so mindblowingly elegant. |
| 02:20 | < CaGeRit> | You jsut have to be patiet. |
| 02:20 | <+MittenNinja> | the guys who made it know what theyre doing |
| 02:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, not always, but most of the time. |
| 02:20 | <+MittenNinja> | well |
| 02:20 | <+MittenNinja> | with these guys |
| 02:20 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | two seasoned indie game developers |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | they should know whats up |
| 02:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Two examples would be a) "You don't need company sheets, it's so easy" and b) "You don't need a flow chart, it's so easy." |
| 02:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | But that's contextual blindness. |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | explaining combat initiative is friggin difficult |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | you play one game |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | and its like "OMG SO EASY" |
| 02:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | And it's smooth sailing. |
| 02:21 | < CaGeRit> | my computer just went full retard, dull is a word right? |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | yes |
| 02:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just like turn-order. |
| 02:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | And action resolve. |
| 02:21 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 02:22 | <+MittenNinja> | sounds complicated |
| 02:22 | <+MittenNinja> | isnt complicated |
| 02:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | On paper, it's a fucking A-38 passage voucher form. |
| 02:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | In all reality, it's supereasy. |
| 02:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | And yeah, "dull" is a word. :D |
| 02:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | I want to build more SUperchubs. |
| 02:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | ANd stop everything else. |
| 02:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | They are so satisfying. |
| 02:23 | <+MittenNinja> | i know what you mean |
| 02:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Meh. Maybe I can get an Ijad variant to work. |
| 02:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, dude, I could PLAY for hours with the articulation. |
| 02:23 | <+MittenNinja> | Those assault chubs are so fun |
| 02:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | I bet. |
| 02:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | You should add the articulate feet. |
| 02:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | It'll blow your mind. :D |
| 02:24 | <+MittenNinja> | then i loose the boots :( |
| 02:24 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7387193072/in/photostream <--- Look. |
| 02:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Those feet give you so much stability. |
| 02:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can get away with almost anything. |
| 02:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7387202946/in/photostream <-- Like holding a sniper rifle that size stretched out without tipping. |
| 02:26 | <+MittenNinja> | then i loose the kickass boots |
| 02:26 | <+MittenNinja> | no deal |
| 02:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 02:26 | <+MittenNinja> | trust me, i can get some cool poses with those guys as is |
| 02:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | I know you can. |
| 02:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Anyway. |
| 02:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'mma try and sleep. |
| 02:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Got a game to record tomorrow. :D |
| 02:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Laters, gentledudes. |
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| 02:29 | <+MittenNinja> | leters |
| 02:29 | <+MittenNinja> | *lagters |
| 02:29 | <+MittenNinja> | GAH |
| 02:29 | <+MittenNinja> | FUCK YOU KEYBOARD |
| 02:29 | < CaGeRit> | I think you mean fuck you fingers. |
| 02:29 | <+MittenNinja> | NO |
| 02:30 | <+MittenNinja> | the keyboard is at fault |
| 02:30 | <+MittenNinja> | my fingers are flawless |
| 02:30 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 02:30 | < CaGeRit> | I think the keyboard is jsut doing what you tell it. |
| 02:30 | <+MittenNinja> | well then it doesnt understand me properly |
| 02:31 | <+MittenNinja> | it doesnt understand ninja |
| 02:31 | < CaGeRit> | Its ok I make mistakes all the time. My fingers were made ofr shifting gears, not typing. |
| 02:31 | < CaGeRit> | They are stubby and strong, fit for cracking walnuts. |
| 02:32 | < CaGeRit> | Yet delicate enought to manipilate a paintbrush. |
| 02:32 | < CaGeRit> | Shitty for typing or playing any kind of instriment, |
| 02:33 | < CaGeRit> | And with that I lavye you tonight. |
| 02:33 | < CaGeRit> | Sleep well. |
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| 02:35 | <+MittenNinja> | Anyone know if there are detailed breakdown shots of some of Zizy's stuff anywhere? |
| 02:35 | <+MittenNinja> | I can probably figure them out |
| 02:35 | <+MittenNinja> | but id rather not do the tinkering if i dont have to |
| 02:36 | <@randolph> | No, just reverse engineers |
| 02:40 | <+MittenNinja> | have a link? |
| 02:40 | <~Noah> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBZoTS7B6ns&feature=g-vrec |
| 02:40 | <~Noah> | Oooo |
| 02:41 | <+MittenNinja> | or do you mean i'll just have to reverse engineer it? |
| 02:42 | <@randolph> | I mean there are only the things other people have chosen to reverse engineer, which are sporadic and I do not have links |
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| 02:57 | <+MittenNinja> | gothca |
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| 03:05 | <@Soren> | Okay. Internets, behave. |
| 03:06 | <@randolph> | Hey Soren |
| 03:06 | <@randolph> | and Ferret |
| 03:07 | <~Noah> | Hey Soren, see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBZoTS7B6ns&feature=g-vrec |
| 03:07 | <@Soren> | I'm seeing it pretty clearly right now. |
| 03:07 | <@Soren> | Oh, this trick! |
| 03:08 | <@Soren> | There's actually an even cooler version, with vertical gaps as well. |
| 03:08 | <~Noah> | Ooo |
| 03:08 | <@Soren> | incredibly parts-intensive, though. |
| 03:08 | <~Noah> | Lego makes something called a "knob stone" |
| 03:08 | <~Noah> | It's a 2x4x2 with studs on both long sides |
| 03:09 | <@Soren> | 1x1 technic bricks and 5-stud bricks, alternating. Also really fragile. |
| 03:09 | <@Soren> | link? |
| 03:09 | <~Noah> | looking |
| 03:09 | <~Noah> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2434 |
| 03:10 | <@Soren> | or is this the... wait. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's an old piece. |
| 03:10 | <@Soren> | I've got a ton of those. Incredibly useful. |
| 03:10 | <@Soren> | I think I was imagining some weird, new configuration. |
| 03:12 | <@Soren> | Yeah, this brickwork technique is a little basic, but a lot more affordable. |
| 03:12 | <@Soren> | You can actually make it work on a non-magic budget. |
| 03:13 | <~Noah> | Yea, the 1x4s aren't too expensive |
| 03:13 | <@Soren> | not at all, no. |
| 03:13 | <@Soren> | Dude's hand skills are a little sloppy. |
| 03:13 | <~Noah> | Nor are the knob stones |
| 03:13 | <@Soren> | Oh, no. Like I said, I have a drawer full of those things. |
| 03:14 | <@Soren> | and a non-trivial quantity of the inverse version, too, which is handier than it looks. |
| 03:15 | <~Noah> | I've also been looking at pokemon cards today, so my idea of "not expensive" is a little screwed |
| 03:15 | <@Soren> | mm. |
| 03:18 | <~Noah> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=90498 |
| 03:18 | <~Noah> | What the fuck? |
| 03:20 | <~Noah> | 8x16 tile, what the hell would I do with that |
| 03:21 | <~Noah> | Knob stones ne bonan, they don't space out like the 1x4s so the tiles only space every 2 rows instead of every row |
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| 03:21 | < Mantisking> | Yo? |
| 03:21 | <~Noah> | Yo |
| 03:22 | <~Noah> | Find a use for this http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=90498 |
| 03:22 | < Mantisking> | Road plate. |
| 03:23 | <~Noah> | Okay smart ass, now it's in magenta. Now what do you do with it (assume I used vinyl dye, since it doesn't come in that color |
| 03:24 | <@Soren> | chemical treatment pool. |
| 03:24 | <~Noah> | FFFF |
| 03:24 | <@Soren> | Note we've never said what color muscle cylinder fluid is. |
| 03:24 | <@Soren> | Or whether difference grades are colored for ease of maintenance. |
| 03:24 | <~Noah> | I'm assuming it's octarine. |
| 03:24 | <~Noah> | A kind of purplish-green color |
| 03:24 | <@Soren> | heh |
| 03:25 | <@Soren> | I always figure it's something really bright and do-not-spill-this-on-yourself |
| 03:25 | <~Noah> | Or drink |
| 03:26 | <@Soren> | well, IIRC it's hypergolic with oxygen and possibly many other things, including junior technicians. |
| 03:27 | <~Noah> | I always figured it was food-coloring dyed water, and we've been getting ripped off by the SU for years |
| 03:27 | <@Soren> | I just like ludicrously dangerous fictional substances. |
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| 03:27 | <~Noah> | Like midoclorians? |
| 03:28 | <@Soren> | no, that's only toxic when mixed with a narrative. |
| 03:28 | <~Noah> | Good point |
| 03:28 | < Carbonbass> | *joins chat, first word seen is midiclorians* Oh god... |
| 03:29 | <@Soren> | I'm talking the fictional equivalent of chlorine trifluoride (this is as good a starting point as any: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=509482) |
| 03:29 | <@Soren> | "It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water-with which it reacts explosively." |
| 03:30 | < Carbonbass> | That is pretty awesome |
| 03:30 | <@Soren> | "It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals-steel, copper, aluminium, etc.-because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminium keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For de |
| 03:30 | <@Soren> | with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes." |
| 03:31 | <@Soren> | Oh, wait, now we're on hydrofluoric acid. Silly me. |
| 03:32 | <~Noah> | Sounds like the best thing you could do in melee is stab someone in the muscle cylinder |
| 03:32 | <~Noah> | Then spray them with water |
| 03:32 | <@Soren> | Either way. Stay away from things involving fluorine. I'm never surprised when they turn out to be horrible. |
| 03:32 | <@Soren> | Oh, I figure muscle cylinder explosions are a regular thing. |
| 03:33 | <@Soren> | I'm sure there's a whole internal system that's designed to prevent large, instantly-fatal explosions |
| 03:33 | <@Soren> | ...usually. |
| 03:33 | <~Noah> | Like a special knife that instead of release grooves, has water stream pumps |
| 03:33 | <@Soren> | heh. |
| 03:34 | <@Soren> | I assume there's a neutralizing agent, so they can actually work with the expended stuff. |
| 03:34 | <~Noah> | I think the world would be more !!FUN!! without that |
| 03:35 | <@Soren> | Well, I'm describing that it exists. I'm not saying everyone can afford it, or bothers to. |
| 03:36 | <@Soren> | land on the colonies is cheap, just dig yourself a big open pit and don;t drill any wells over there. |
| 03:36 | <@Soren> | ...for about a hundred years. |
| 03:36 | <~Noah> | "Cost of neutralizing agent, 5 million...ijadi scum flake (whatever the currency is), cost of replacing a totally disintegrated frame, 1 mil" |
| 03:36 | <~Noah> | Peaches are the currency, what am I thinking |
| 03:37 | <@Soren> | It seems to be the default we've settled on, yeah. |
| 03:38 | <@Soren> | I'm sure there are multiples, local and non-Union currencies. |
| 03:38 | <~Noah> | But everyone wants peaches |
| 03:39 | <@Soren> | well, I would imagine they're all, or were originally, peach-backed. |
| 03:39 | <@Soren> | (and I like the idea of putting fruit that looks like a butt on coins, let's face it.) |
| 03:40 | <~Noah> | And figuring out a way to get something to grow on it, so it's fuzzy |
| 03:40 | <@Soren> | hah. |
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| 03:41 | <@Soren> | I guess I know what I'm doing today! |
| 03:41 | <@Soren> | peach-colored bills will be funny. |
| 03:42 | <~Noah> | Denominated by the number of peaches it'll buy |
| 03:43 | <@Soren> | oh, of course. |
| 03:43 | <@Soren> | with centipeach and decipeach coins. |
| 03:44 | < Carbonbass> | Has anyone built frames for the Peach Mafia yet? |
| 03:44 | <~Noah> | PEACH COLORED VINYL DYE |
| 03:44 | <~Noah> | MITTENS! |
| 03:44 | <~Noah> | Oh, he's not here |
| 03:45 | <@Soren> | red-orange bills seem appropriate. |
| 03:46 | <@Soren> | ...this is an awesome time for my book on currency design to be on another planet. |
| 03:46 | <@Soren> | Functionally. |
| 03:46 | <~Noah> | Heh |
| 03:58 | < Carbonbass> | Anybody else start buying Lotr legos yet? |
| 04:00 | <@Soren> | I'm unlikely to. |
| 04:02 | <@Soren> | Cool parts can be bricklinked. |
| 04:04 | < Carbonbass> | aye |
| 04:07 | < Carbonbass> | I was in Toys'R'us with a friend, and since we are both adults we went and looked at all the Lego stuff. The Shelob set is $20 so I picked one up. Probably the most satisfying lego set purchase I've made in 5 years. |
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| 04:09 | < Deathzero> | lmao |
| 04:09 | < Deathzero> | my 3ds's web browser can get on here |
| 04:10 | <+MittenNinja> | haha nice |
| 04:10 | < Carbonbass> | Always good to know |
| 04:10 | < Deathzero> | I'm at my d&d game |
| 04:13 | < Carbonbass> | I just finished up a new frame, but I'm not even going to get the camera out yet. Because in about 5 minutes I'll notice something I want to change. |
| 04:14 | < Deathzero> | psh do it anyways :D |
| 04:14 | <+MittenNinja> | lol |
| 04:17 | < Carbonbass> | This one uses the same feet setup as your Fat-Snake chubs Mittens. Big stable stompy feet. |
| 04:17 | <@Soren> | They're not actually all that stable. |
| 04:18 | <@Soren> | Kind of difficult to pose. |
| 04:20 | < Carbonbass> | On chubs they aren't, something about how the 1x1 clip tile grabs the bar makes them want to sit at an odd angle for normal legs. I'm using a reverse jointed leg that sits at an angle that makes them work better. |
| 04:21 | < Carbonbass> | Much easier to pose too |
| 04:21 | <@Soren> | sure. |
| 04:22 | <@Soren> | well, and they hold together a little better with the dishes on either side. But for the most part, not the most stable |
| 04:22 | <+MittenNinja> | Yeah |
| 04:22 | <+MittenNinja> | You can get them to stand pretty reliably |
| 04:22 | <+MittenNinja> | there are tricks :) |
| 04:22 | <@Soren> | Yeah, they're just fiddly. |
| 04:23 | <@Soren> | If you want more stability, actually, robot claws and 1x1 tiles will give you toes with some later roll. |
| 04:23 | <+MittenNinja> | Soren, i finally got all the pieces to try out the lightsaber blade/wheel rim thing |
| 04:23 | <@Soren> | lateral* |
| 04:23 | <+MittenNinja> | its so cool |
| 04:23 | <@Soren> | ooh. |
| 04:23 | < Carbonbass> | That's why I scrapped them on my Chubs, just a bit too fiddly |
| 04:23 | <@Soren> | I gotta see. |
| 04:24 | <+MittenNinja> | I'm still working on a finalized weapon design |
| 04:24 | <+MittenNinja> | but that part looks sick |
| 04:24 | <@Soren> | indeed it does. |
| 04:25 | <@Soren> | if you pick up some technic chain, I can walk you through hanging it on a clip plate for an ammo chain |
| 04:25 | <+MittenNinja> | yeha |
| 04:25 | <+MittenNinja> | thats another part i need to get |
| 04:25 | <+MittenNinja> | i also want to make some of these |
| 04:25 | <@Soren> | totally worth it. |
| 04:25 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=775815 |
| 04:25 | <+MittenNinja> | chainsaws |
| 04:25 | <+MittenNinja> | hell yes |
| 04:25 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 04:26 | <@Soren> | the 1x5 technic plate, with the round ends - I think I showed you that trick - is a good support to wrap them around. You'll actually get a moving chain. |
| 04:26 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 04:27 | <+MittenNinja> | this is the chain you were talking about right? |
| 04:27 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=3711 |
| 04:27 | <@Soren> | little tricky to attach. |
| 04:27 | <@Soren> | yep. |
| 04:27 | <@Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2711 |
| 04:28 | <+MittenNinja> | nice |
| 04:28 | <@Soren> | This is the plate. It may work with the newer version, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=32124 but I haven't tested it. |
| 04:28 | <@Soren> | I tried the others, but it really needs an odd stud length. |
| 04:29 | <+MittenNinja> | i cant wait to try it out |
| 04:29 | < Carbonbass> | Oh sweet jesus |
| 04:29 | <@Soren> | and the studless technic liftarms are a little too thick for it to actually slide. |
| 04:29 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 04:30 | <+MittenNinja> | oh and Soren, I'm totally sold on the three brick wide torso |
| 04:30 | < Deathzero> | well back to game later folks |
| 04:30 | <@Soren> | well, yay. |
| 04:30 | <+MittenNinja> | later DZ |
| 04:30 | <@Soren> | later! |
| 04:30 | < Deathzero> | o7 |
| 04:30 | <+MittenNinja> | did you see my assault chubs? |
| 04:30 | <@Soren> | I might have |
| 04:30 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7409162732/ |
| 04:30 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7409788920/in/photostream/ |
| 04:30 | <@Soren> | Ah. yeah. |
| 04:31 | <@Soren> | I think they could use a stud or two more neck, but I'm otherwise impressed. |
| 04:31 | <@Soren> | the shins are extremely clever. |
| 04:31 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah? I kinda like the sunken in head |
| 04:31 | <+MittenNinja> | thanks :) |
| 04:32 | <+MittenNinja> | totally happened on accident too |
| 04:32 | <@Soren> | that's the best, though. |
| 04:32 | <+MittenNinja> | i know right? |
| 04:34 | <+MittenNinja> | I'm going to start messing around with some Zizy stuff |
| 04:34 | <+MittenNinja> | see what I can come up with |
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| 04:34 | <@Soren> | sounds like a plan. |
| 04:35 | <@Soren> | I started out messing with his stuff, and ended up adapting a lot of his techniques to build a base frame. It's a good way to learn to think about a lot of parts differently. |
| 04:35 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 04:35 | <+MittenNinja> | thats pretty much what i need at this point |
| 04:36 | <+MittenNinja> | everything ive been building is pretty much just a slight variation on techniques i already know and use |
| 04:36 | <+MittenNinja> | i need to grow |
| 04:36 | <@Soren> | Set yourself some funky challenges. |
| 04:37 | <@Soren> | 'I'm going to build something entirely in one color' is a good one. |
| 04:38 | <@Soren> | Or start arbitrarily declaring some parts and techniques off-limits. |
| 04:39 | <+MittenNinja> | definitely |
| 04:39 | <+MittenNinja> | i think i'll start by trying to build something without taps/travis/t-pieces |
| 04:39 | <+MittenNinja> | the triple t challenege |
| 04:40 | <@Soren> | That might even be forum-worthy. |
| 04:40 | < Carbonbass> | That would be |
| 04:40 | <+MittenNinja> | on it |
| 04:41 | <@Soren> | Should I post, or- yeah. You should. |
| 04:42 | < Carbonbass> | here's a pic of how the clip sits on the feet of the new frame, tilted back like that keeps it from bending up in the center, so it stays flat to the table. http://www.flickr.com/photos/78359253@N03/7423552224/ |
| 04:42 | <+MittenNinja> | oh nice |
| 04:42 | <@Soren> | yeah, that's actually a hip/knee issue. |
| 04:42 | <@Soren> | Not anything specifically related to the feet. |
| 04:43 | <@Soren> | good articulation on those legs! |
| 04:44 | < Carbonbass> | Ahh, that frame has very wide hips to accommodate the fet feet and legs. Tried the proven 2-tap 1-travis hips, but that was way too skinny. |
| 04:44 | < Carbonbass> | Thanks Soren! |
| 04:44 | <+MittenNinja> | try clips in the travis and attach the taps to those? |
| 04:47 | < Carbonbass> | I tested that out, and it worked but I didn't like it as much as what I ended up with. I have two 1x1 ring-clips sticking out of the bottom of the torso side by side, and the taps stick into those. |
| 04:47 | <+MittenNinja> | thatd work too |
| 04:48 | <@Soren> | you can also just bulk up the hips with radar dishes. |
| 04:48 | <@Soren> | simple and effective. |
| 04:49 | <+MittenNinja> | that guy looks sweet man |
| 04:52 | < Carbonbass> | Thanks! |
| 04:53 | < Carbonbass> | Now I need to figure out how much it will cost me to build a company once I get the last of my 40K stuff sold off. |
| 04:54 | <@Soren> | if it's just one, not too much, depending on the specifics. |
| 04:55 | <@Soren> | You'd be hard-pressed to spend more than $400. |
| 04:56 | <+MittenNinja> | ha true |
| 04:56 | <@Soren> | $200 is a reasonable figure for something not-too-fancy |
| 04:57 | <@Soren> | And you'll probably be spending less if you have, oh, any Lego at all around you. |
| 04:57 | <+MittenNinja> | I just got a cup full of lampholders and clips from the mills lego store |
| 04:57 | <+MittenNinja> | btw |
| 04:57 | <+MittenNinja> | awesome |
| 04:57 | <~Noah> | I'd say even less than that |
| 04:57 | <+MittenNinja> | oh for sure |
| 04:58 | <+MittenNinja> | even if you want to get detailed |
| 04:58 | <~Noah> | I've spent ... lemme check |
| 04:58 | <+MittenNinja> | You can get a pretty sickly detailed frame for about $20 |
| 04:58 | <@Soren> | Those are high figures assuming you went for something requiring a sprinkling of shiny rare bits |
| 04:58 | <+MittenNinja> | which means easily under $200 |
| 04:58 | <@Soren> | yeah. |
| 04:59 | <+MittenNinja> | hell, sand green iguanas are under $10 |
| 04:59 | < Carbonbass> | Oh I have a ton of lego, I'll be buying mostly just the detail color bits so that they all match. |
| 04:59 | <@Soren> | oh, then you're gonna be spending less than you would buying a sandwich per frame. |
| 05:00 | <~Noah> | I've spend about $109 after shipping |
| 05:00 | <~Noah> | And I have plenty of parts to make things with |
| 05:00 | <@Soren> | Yeah, my figures are all based off the math i was doing for online PaB |
| 05:00 | < Carbonbass> | and the obligatory handfull of Travis bricks. The first batch of knee-modded Chubs I built cost roughly $15 apiece for the 4 that I bought. |
| 05:01 | <@Soren> | shipping on that was a real bitch, largely, I suspect, because of sorting costs. |
| 05:01 | <~Noah> | I actually started with some legos, but nothing useful for making frames |
| 05:01 | <~Noah> | Plus they ship from holland or something? |
| 05:02 | <+MittenNinja> | denmark |
| 05:02 | <+MittenNinja> | pretty sure |
| 05:02 | <~Noah> | Yea there |
| 05:02 | <+MittenNinja> | since thats where lego is from and all |
| 05:02 | <@Soren> | that's not even so bad, based on stuff I've ordered from Denmark in the past. |
| 05:03 | <@Soren> | I'm almost certain that sorting and packing your order is where the expense is. |
| 05:03 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 05:03 | <@Soren> | maybe a little bit is the weight. |
| 05:03 | <+MittenNinja> | it cant cost much to send little plastic bits around the globe for a multi billion dollar company |
| 05:04 | <~Noah> | Depends on how much they are charging for the handling of the S&H |
| 05:04 | <~Noah> | Which I imagine is a lot |
| 05:04 | <@Soren> | well, consider how much stuff they move, and that they have to do a lot of it with high-wage local labor. |
| 05:05 | <@Soren> | Plus, sorting out individual bricks is a labor-intensive job, and I bet it's disproportionately labor-intensive relative to the revenue it brings in. |
| 05:06 | <@Soren> | PaB, even PaB in great locations like a Lego store in a major city, is a drop in the bucket compared to set sales. |
| 05:06 | <@Soren> | We're probably a non-trivial spike in the graph, since somewhere mid-april. |
| 05:07 | <@Soren> | maybe mid-March, if enough people got started early. |
| 05:07 | < Carbonbass> | I keep meaning to stop in the Lego store at the big mall that isn't a terribly long drive from my house. |
| 05:12 | <+MittenNinja> | it cant cost much to send little plastic bits around the globe for a multi billion dollar company? |
| 05:12 | <~Noah> | I suspect that it's far more automated than that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRRDIFNxoM&list=PL57813C777A244270&index=3&featu re=plpp_video |
| 05:13 | <+MittenNinja> | Who was I going to show my SSR with the folding flap? |
| 05:13 | <+MittenNinja> | was that you Noah? |
| 05:13 | <~Noah> | No, but I'll totally have a looksee anyway |
| 05:15 | < Carbonbass> | I'd love to see it as well. |
| 05:15 | <+MittenNinja> | Ideally youd use a 1x1 with two studs instead of a travis, but I didnt want to go digging for one right now. |
| 05:15 | <+MittenNinja> | Closed: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jk3yhl43v7lfpg/DSC_0759.JPG |
| 05:15 | <+MittenNinja> | Open: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7w3e8agwfydjyfk/DSC_0760.JPG |
| 05:16 | <@randolph> | People will forgive me if I put SSRs on an entire company of terracotta warriors, right? |
| 05:16 | <@Soren> | pretty excellent. |
| 05:16 | <@randolph> | It's for fluff, not play :p |
| 05:16 | <@Soren> | yes. |
| 05:17 | <+MittenNinja> | thanks |
| 05:17 | <@randolph> | Oh, that's sweet MN |
| 05:17 | <+MittenNinja> | thanks randy |
| 05:17 | <@randolph> | So you pop it open to show "empty" right? |
| 05:17 | <+MittenNinja> | thats the idea |
| 05:17 | <@randolph> | cool |
| 05:17 | <@randolph> | I have the head of the rocket sticking out (bionicle eye) |
| 05:17 | <@randolph> | then pop that out |
| 05:18 | <+MittenNinja> | you could even totally put a half pin in there |
| 05:18 | <+MittenNinja> | and flip it up |
| 05:18 | < Carbonbass> | I just built one to play with, so fun to slowing flip the lid while making a little whirring noise. |
| 05:18 | <@randolph> | hee |
| 05:18 | <+MittenNinja> | haha |
| 05:18 | <+MittenNinja> | right? |
| 05:18 | <@randolph> | cb: I think it just blasts open |
| 05:18 | <@randolph> | Like explosive bolts, fire |
| 05:18 | <@randolph> | PSHHHHFFOW |
| 05:19 | <@randolph> | And then the barrel smokes a bit |
| 05:19 | < Carbonbass> | Ahh, see I was thinking Sub lauch tube doors |
| 05:19 | <+MittenNinja> | either one works really |
| 05:19 | <@randolph> | Depends on how reusable the design is |
| 05:19 | <@randolph> | ^ up to the creator hehehe |
| 05:19 | <@Soren> | yeah, although I tend to lean towards fast and dsiposable. |
| 05:19 | <@Soren> | disposable* |
| 05:19 | <+MittenNinja> | thats what she said? |
| 05:19 | <@randolph> | Yeah, like easy hardmount bolt clips, with an exposed contact |
| 05:20 | <@randolph> | there's an electric contact on the inside of the launcher module |
| 05:20 | < Carbonbass> | Same, use it and lose it. Take weight off |
| 05:20 | <@randolph> | you just slap it on and slot it into the bolt |
| 05:20 | <@randolph> | the final position puts the electrical contact in position |
| 05:20 | <@randolph> | so the frame can just send a pulse into the mount, and it does its thing |
| 05:21 | <@Soren> | sure. |
| 05:21 | <@Soren> | also, easily maintained by irritating children and other archetypal bush mechanic characters. |
| 05:22 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 05:22 | <@Soren> | in case of malfunction, too, I'm sure the mounting latch includes explosive bolts. |
| 05:22 | <@randolph> | and then you have a secondary industry buying back the disposable casing, and refillign them |
| 05:22 | <@randolph> | like printer cartridges |
| 05:23 | <@Soren> | I bet they're about a thousand times better than a duffle for storing your shit. |
| 05:23 | <@Soren> | semi-armored. |
| 05:23 | <@randolph> | so cheap mercs, poor revolutionaries can buy aftermarket SSR pods |
| 05:23 | <+MittenNinja> | absolutely |
| 05:24 | <@randolph> | Houserule: "you can fit up to 2 aftermarket SSRs by swapping out one normal SSR, but when you roll a 1 or 2 on the d8, it explodes and you take some damage" |
| 05:24 | <@randolph> | heheh |
| 05:24 | < Carbonbass> | Quick question, what powersource do frames run off of in the Solar calendar? |
| 05:24 | <@randolph> | "WARNING: NON-HP ROCKET DETECTED [PRESS OK TO CONTINUE]" |
| 05:25 | <@randolph> | CB: different power sources, but muscle fibers are stimulated electrically |
| 05:25 | <@Soren> | Hydrogen fuel cells and RTGs, I would imagine. |
| 05:25 | <@randolph> | So just like the DeLorean was electrical, but the electricity ws generated by nuclear fission (then fusion) |
| 05:25 | <@randolph> | RTG? |
| 05:25 | <@Soren> | radioisotope thermal generator. |
| 05:25 | <@randolph> | aha |
| 05:26 | <@Soren> | google thou and be amazed. |
| 05:26 | <@randolph> | I bet some labor frames still burn polycarbon |
| 05:26 | <@Soren> | probably. |
| 05:26 | <@randolph> | er hydrocarbon |
| 05:27 | <@Soren> | I would imagine it's flexible, like some MBT powerplants. |
| 05:27 | <@randolph> | Hee, I'm imagining a hybrid-solar-powered Gundam with giant solar panels all over |
| 05:27 | <@randolph> | "Zius" |
| 05:27 | <@Soren> | alcohol, kerosine, rotting plant matter, whatever. Varying levels of efficiency, but broad functionality. |
| 05:28 | <@Soren> | You probably want RTGs for emergency, low-power functions, and fuel cells for general use and to get peak performance. |
| 05:31 | <@Soren> | throw in a high-cap battery to smooth things out in case of damage, and ensure a sufficiently modular system for field replacement of damage fuel cells. |
| 05:31 | <@Soren> | +d |
| 05:35 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: Belated awesome |
| 05:35 | <+MittenNinja> | hrm? |
| 05:35 | <+MittenNinja> | on the ssr |
| 05:35 | <+MittenNinja> | thanks man |
| 05:36 | <+MittenNinja> | *oh |
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| 05:38 | <+MittenNinja> | TJ! |
| 05:38 | <+Tetrajak> | Heya peeps |
| 05:38 | <+Tetrajak> | guess what |
| 05:38 | <+MittenNinja> | ? |
| 05:39 | <+Tetrajak> | I have pictures of a new frame, pictures taken in a new light tent :D |
| 05:39 | <+MittenNinja> | ooooo |
| 05:39 | <+MittenNinja> | do share |
| 05:39 | <+Tetrajak> | pity I can't find my best digital camera :/ |
| 05:39 | <~Noah> | sweet, do give unto us |
| 05:39 | <~Noah> | waaaaaah |
| 05:39 | <+Tetrajak> | ok, gimme a sec to upload to flickr |
| 05:39 | < Carbonbass> | I still need to built one of those darn light box things. |
| 05:39 | <+Tetrajak> | I bought one |
| 05:40 | <+Tetrajak> | and it collapses |
| 05:40 | < Carbonbass> | I'm jelly |
| 05:40 | <+Tetrajak> | it cost me a pretty penny |
| 05:40 | <+Tetrajak> | they aren't cheap where I am |
| 05:40 | <+Tetrajak> | but I got it for less than retail |
| 05:42 | < Carbonbass> | Always a win |
| 05:45 | <+Tetrajak> | Tadah! http://www.flickr.com/photos/tetrajak/7423777636/in/photostream |
| 05:46 | <+Tetrajak> | The Venus Orbital Frame |
| 05:46 | <+MittenNinja> | love those shoulders man |
| 05:47 | < Carbonbass> | What he said |
| 05:47 | <+Tetrajak> | thanks guys |
| 05:47 | <+Tetrajak> | I admit, I borrowed them from my Enforcer frame |
| 05:47 | < Carbonbass> | The color scheme is awesome |
| 05:47 | <+MittenNinja> | may have to steal that technique |
| 05:47 | <+Tetrajak> | simply because they suited the look |
| 05:47 | <+Tetrajak> | thanks :D |
| 05:47 | <+Tetrajak> | Mitten: go right ahead |
| 05:47 | <+Tetrajak> | It's the only way I've found to use them so far |
| 05:47 | <+MittenNinja> | i also really like the binocs |
| 05:48 | <+MittenNinja> | and the tan bits on the legs |
| 05:48 | <+MittenNinja> | it does seem a bit bow-legged though |
| 05:48 | <+Tetrajak> | Yes, I am very pleased that the tan bits look so good with black, white, and lime |
| 05:48 | <+MittenNinja> | i think thats my only complaint |
| 05:50 | <+Tetrajak> | yea, I'm not too sure on the legs |
| 05:50 | <+Tetrajak> | but it's only the first draft |
| 05:50 | < Carbonbass> | Well I'm off for tonight, need to be up early tomorrow to help install a new door and frame (the wood kind) on a house. |
| 05:50 | <+MittenNinja> | haha |
| 05:50 | <+MittenNinja> | night man |
| 05:50 | <+Tetrajak> | night |
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| 07:22 | <@Soren> | ...it looks like we've picked up a stray kitten, now. |
| 07:23 | <@Soren> | Nice to know that no matter the continent, the sign on my forehead reading 'soft touch here' is still intelligible. |
| 07:24 | <@randolph> | hee |
| 07:30 | <+MittenNinja> | Alright Soren, I got something fun for ya |
| 07:30 | <@Soren> | hit me |
| 07:31 | <+MittenNinja> | Just finishing editing real quick |
| 07:33 | <+MittenNinja> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/joi3pc9v3o26ujo/Raven_WIP.jpg |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | nifty |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | I like the use of skis(?) |
| 07:34 | <+MittenNinja> | no skis |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | What's his face? |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | And is that three bars in the miniguns? |
| 07:34 | <+MittenNinja> | hovercraft bumpers |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | oh |
| 07:34 | <+MittenNinja> | yessir |
| 07:34 | <@Soren> | I like! |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7424070990/ |
| 07:34 | <@randolph> | Here, I finished outfitting them |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | I think the only potential improvement might be to sneak an eye in bewteen the bumpers |
| 07:35 | <+MittenNinja> | nice. Classic Chinese style warriors |
| 07:35 | <@randolph> | www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7424071416/ |
| 07:35 | <@randolph> | www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7424071772/ |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | between* |
| 07:35 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 07:35 | <+MittenNinja> | theres that and I still want to smooth out the studs a bit here and there |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | mm. |
| 07:36 | <@randolph> | Does the handheld missile launcher evoke handheld rockets? |
| 07:36 | <@Soren> | Might also be nice to go with one minigun and give it a big ammo can. |
| 07:36 | <@randolph> | the uh... man-portable ones used by Chinese infantry |
| 07:36 | <@Soren> | it does indeed |
| 07:36 | <@randolph> | cool |
| 07:40 | <@randolph> | hey MN, did you see the transforming wingarm I was working on a few nights ago? |
| 07:40 | <@randolph> | It was pretty late, so my memory wasn't the best |
| 07:40 | <+MittenNinja> | I did! |
| 07:42 | <@randolph> | k. I was reminded by your moving SSR tube |
| 07:43 | <+MittenNinja> | OMG |
| 07:43 | <+MittenNinja> | FUCKING GENIUS |
| 07:44 | <+MittenNinja> | I CANT BELIEVE THAT WORKED |
| 07:44 | <+MittenNinja> | hang on |
| 07:45 | <@randolph> | ?? |
| 07:46 | <+MittenNinja> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6wnjen1y2kwsv2/DSC_0763.JPG |
| 07:46 | <+MittenNinja> | CHECK OUT THAT EYE |
| 07:47 | <+MittenNinja> | it rotates |
| 07:47 | <+MittenNinja> | on a ball joint |
| 07:48 | <@randolph> | Hee hee hee awesome |
| 07:48 | <@randolph> | I love it |
| 07:48 | <@randolph> | Put two on there, it'll have so much personality |
| 07:50 | <@Soren> | filthy brilliance. |
| 07:52 | <+MittenNinja> | Nah, I dont like two of em |
| 07:52 | <+MittenNinja> | too comical |
| 07:52 | <@randolph> | :( |
| 07:52 | <@randolph> | ( o ) ( o ) |
| 07:52 | <+MittenNinja> | But ill take a picture for you randy |
| 07:52 | <@randolph> | hehe |
| 07:53 | <@Soren> | WHY ARE THERE NIPPLES ON THAT BUTT. |
| 07:53 | <@randolph> | So you can attach LEGO |
| 07:53 | <@Soren> | ...sounds reasonable |
| 07:54 | <+MittenNinja> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/r39r1swgic55shz/DSC_0764.JPG |
| 07:55 | <+MittenNinja> | LOOK AT THAT FACE |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | it's the froggiest. |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | even with just one eye, i think you should name it the Cane Toad. |
| 07:55 | <@randolph> | It's saying "help me, don't let him gouge out an eye" |
| 07:55 | <@randolph> | It's imploring me, Greg. |
| 07:56 | <@randolph> | But I'm powerless to stop you, hundreds of miles away. |
| 07:56 | <+MittenNinja> | hahaha |
| 07:56 | <+MittenNinja> | it will live on in pictures |
| 07:56 | <@randolph> | I'm sorry, little guy, there's nothing I can do :( |
| 07:57 | <+MittenNinja> | Oh yeah, and that guy is for the Triple T challenge too |
| 07:57 | <@Soren> | most excellent |
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| 08:36 | <@Soren> | Orange and red makes for surprisingly nice currency! |
| 08:39 | <@randolph> | got a pic? |
| 08:41 | < Ced|Bed> | Hurgh. |
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| 08:41 | | * Ced23Ric claws his way out of the arms of Morpheus...! |
| 08:42 | <@Soren> | Randy: give me a while longer. I will share when I'm done. |
| 08:42 | <@randolph> | hey Ced |
| 08:42 | <@randolph> | Soren: np |
| 08:43 | <@randolph> | Yeah, just assume anything I say to you includes ", no rush" as an autosuffix :p |
| 08:43 | <@Soren> | I do. |
| 08:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | But SHARE MORE TO US. |
| 08:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | As per usual. |
| 08:47 | <@Soren> | doin' my best. |
| 08:48 | <+MittenNinja> | Alright, here's the Bullfrog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7424291330/in/photostream |
| 08:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren, Greg? |
| 08:52 | <@Soren> | what's up? |
| 08:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | I need a foot, that has a 1x2 stud area pointing up, horizontal. |
| 08:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Any ideas for something cool? |
| 08:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | The 1x3 plate, I tried too often now. :D |
| 08:53 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh, also: Ijad 'frame. |
| 08:54 | <+MittenNinja> | I'm a fan of these: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=60478 |
| 08:54 | <+MittenNinja> | lets you use a clip to attach crap to the back |
| 08:54 | <+MittenNinja> | like heelies |
| 08:55 | <+MittenNinja> | Ceddo |
| 08:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 08:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yah? |
| 08:55 | <+MittenNinja> | you should try the Triple T challenge |
| 08:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 08:55 | <+MittenNinja> | you know you want to! |
| 08:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll have a look later, maybe I get an idea. ;) |
| 08:55 | <+MittenNinja> | all frames at 0.0 mittens |
| 08:55 | <+MittenNinja> | no taps |
| 08:55 | <+MittenNinja> | no t-pieces |
| 08:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | 0.0 Mittens, 0.0 Ceds? Wow. |
| 09:03 | <@Soren> | yeah |
| 09:04 | <+MittenNinja> | Here's mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7424291330/in/photostream |
| 09:05 | <+MittenNinja> | now get crackin on yours ceddo |
| 09:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wrapped up in something else. |
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| 09:07 | <@randolph> | Hey TJ |
| 09:10 | <+Tetrajak> | heya randolph |
| 09:10 | <+Tetrajak> | I got the parts :D |
| 09:10 | <+Tetrajak> | I don't think I'm ever going to need 1x1 plate w/ lamp holder ever again XD |
| 09:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | ALright, BRB. |
| 09:12 | <+Tetrajak> | man, I suck at ordering parts from Bricklink |
| 09:12 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm STILL missing parts to complete my Enforcers |
| 09:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | TJ, stealing your shoulders. |
| 09:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just saying. |
| 09:12 | <+Tetrajak> | all good |
| 09:12 | <+Tetrajak> | several people are |
| 09:12 | <+Tetrajak> | I think the frames I've put them on are getting more comments about the shoulders than any other part of said frames XD |
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| 09:18 | <@randolph> | (1:10:38 AM) Tetrajak: I don't think I'm ever going to need 1x1 plate w/ lamp holder ever again XD |
| 09:18 | <@randolph> | Haha woo |
| 09:19 | <+Tetrajak> | yea, I now have sooooooo many of them |
| 09:19 | <+Tetrajak> | and I usually only use them in white |
| 09:19 | <@randolph> | Wait, that means you got stuff from me before Ced did, even though I mailed his a week earlier |
| 09:19 | <@randolph> | yeesh |
| 09:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | D: |
| 09:19 | <@randolph> | Yeah, so that giant stack of lampholders? |
| 09:19 | <@randolph> | I have four more like that in my own box |
| 09:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijadchub.png |
| 09:20 | <@randolph> | huh, neat |
| 09:20 | <@randolph> | how about swapping the legs for a little claw? |
| 09:20 | <@randolph> | the stubby kind |
| 09:20 | <@randolph> | not legs, feet |
| 09:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I want the articulation. |
| 09:21 | <@randolph> | sorry, I meant just feet |
| 09:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm, what are you thinkinf of? |
| 09:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Needs to attach to a T piece. ;) |
| 09:21 | <@randolph> | hm, ok, you can keep the travis on the T |
| 09:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | I could do a T-piece with Travis' on each end. |
| 09:21 | <@randolph> | just rotate it 45 degrees, built front and back out with 1-2 round plates |
| 09:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | D: |
| 09:21 | <@randolph> | and end in a cheeseslope |
| 09:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | No. |
| 09:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | You just killed my ankle joint. |
| 09:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | UNACCEPTABLE. |
| 09:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | BUt you gave me an idea. |
| 09:22 | <@randolph> | Oh, I see it |
| 09:22 | <@randolph> | hmm |
| 09:25 | <@randolph> | Yeah, I dunno. I just think that a front-back claw per foot reminiscent of a scrambler foot would be more Ijad-like |
| 09:25 | <@randolph> | I dig the head and chest |
| 09:26 | <@randolph> | The shoulders are cool, but not sold on the upper arm:forearm proportion |
| 09:26 | <@randolph> | shoulders might need to be a bit higher and further back, actually, given size |
| 09:27 | <@randolph> | The kneepads make the legs look fixed, but it's probably just because it hasn't been posed yet |
| 09:27 | <@randolph> | cool backpack |
| 09:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ic_feet.png |
| 09:27 | <@Ced23Ric> | Think a 2stud instead of the travis. |
| 09:29 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/256imageworks/7424422092/ |
| 09:29 | <@randolph> | I really, really like this thing for some reason |
| 09:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 09:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ic_kneels.png |
| 09:33 | <+Tetrajak> | heee, I see you have used shoulders similar to mine |
| 09:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hence I said, I'll steal your shoulders. :D |
| 09:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, two parts of 'em. |
| 09:34 | <+Tetrajak> | XD |
| 09:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | But they are signature parts. |
| 09:34 | <+Tetrajak> | yup, they are |
| 09:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | So it shows like a rash after shore leave on a seaman's melee attachment. |
| 09:35 | <+Tetrajak> | lol |
| 09:36 | <+Tetrajak> | ok, so I have a plan. Since it's impractically expensive to make my Venus frames, I think I will make 2 or three of them and use them in a company composition of my Enforcers |
| 09:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | Unacceptable. |
| 09:36 | <+Tetrajak> | eh? |
| 09:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | How is that company ever going to deploy? |
| 09:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | "The two of you, jump from orbit, the rest ... come with me. The short bus is around the corner." |
| 09:37 | <+Tetrajak> | XD |
| 09:37 | <+Tetrajak> | do you want me to make a squad of Venus frames? |
| 09:37 | <+Tetrajak> | because if that's the case, just say so |
| 09:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, yes. |
| 09:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I want to force to make the same 'frame unique. |
| 09:38 | <+Tetrajak> | but they're soooooo parts intensive ._. |
| 09:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Develop Arty variants. |
| 09:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | And different DF attachments. |
| 09:39 | <+Tetrajak> | I don't understand your previous statement |
| 09:39 | <+Tetrajak> | share more to me |
| 09:39 | <@randolph> | He wants to force you to make unique variants of the same frame |
| 09:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | * I want to force you to make the same 'frame unique. |
| 09:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or: |
| 09:39 | <@randolph> | You could just make an entire orbital drop company |
| 09:40 | <@randolph> | Doesn't have to all be veni |
| 09:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | * I want you to force yourself to make the same 'frame unique multiple times. |
| 09:40 | <+Tetrajak> | lol |
| 09:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | NO THEY DO. SHUDDUP RANDY YOU BUILD COMBAT DUCK 'FRAMES. |
| 09:40 | <+Tetrajak> | XD |
| 09:40 | <@randolph> | IT'S AN OSTRICH |
| 09:40 | <@randolph> | OH WAIT I DID BUILD A DUCK |
| 09:40 | <@randolph> | NVM |
| 09:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | NO YOU BUILT SELF-DESTRUCTIVE KILLER DUCKS. |
| 09:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | YES THERE YOU GO. |
| 09:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Don't take advice (other than technical or strategical) from that man. |
| 09:41 | <@randolph> | :| |
| 09:41 | <+Tetrajak> | XD |
| 09:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | He is blessed with understanding! |
| 09:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Graced with insight! |
| 09:41 | <+Tetrajak> | ok, so Ced, you want to see a bunch of Venus variants, in a company? |
| 09:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Cursed with slapstick. |
| 09:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yes, yes I do. |
| 09:42 | <+Tetrajak> | ok, well I'm kind of short on money at the moment |
| 09:42 | <+Tetrajak> | so, I need a judgement call |
| 09:42 | <+Tetrajak> | is the Venus; http://www.flickr.com/photos/tetrajak/7423777636/in/photostream , better than the Enforcer; http://www.flickr.com/photos/tetrajak/7214482850/in/photostream |
| 09:44 | <+Tetrajak> | because there are a bunch of parts I have received to build Enforcers, but a whole lot of them could be used to make Venus units instead |
| 09:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | She is. |
| 09:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Her face is just way more appealing. |
| 09:45 | <+Tetrajak> | (well, I don't have ALL the parts for a squad of Venus', but it would cut costs) |
| 09:45 | <@randolph> | Hm. |
| 09:45 | <@randolph> | I agree about the face |
| 09:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | She looks sleek. The lack of a cockpit gives her that "faceless killer" vibe. |
| 09:45 | <@randolph> | But you can modify the Enforcer |
| 09:45 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah I agree. |
| 09:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | You should use that to your advantage. |
| 09:46 | <@randolph> | I still want to see a company of your real-robot walking tanks in the brick! |
| 09:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | And modify all Enforcers into Venii. |
| 09:46 | <+Tetrajak> | randolph: I know! Me too! The only thing stopping me is a lack of money |
| 09:46 | <+Tetrajak> | lol, Ced |
| 09:46 | <@randolph> | Aw |
| 09:46 | <@randolph> | Yeah, it happens |
| 09:46 | <+Tetrajak> | ok, I'll quit making the Enforcers |
| 09:47 | <+Tetrajak> | and make Venii instead |
| 09:48 | <@randolph> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQ_SwN7lz8 |
| 09:50 | <@Soren> | Okay. I think we're ready to rock, here. |
| 09:50 | <@randolph> | woo |
| 09:50 | <@Soren> | pictures in a few, once I sort out the denominations. |
| 09:50 | <@randolph> | unmarked nonsequential 10s and 20s please, in a paper bag. |
| 09:51 | <+Tetrajak> | lol |
| 09:53 | <+Tetrajak> | Tomorrow, I take inventory to see how much of a squad of Venii I can make without buying anything. Then I make a list of the parts I have to order |
| 09:54 | <+Tetrajak> | and also backup my files and format my harddrive, which has been running chkdsk and pausing indefinitely recently :( |
| 09:54 | <@randolph> | yeek |
| 09:55 | <@randolph> | You probably don't want to hear this, but I think the color scheme needs some fine tuning |
| 09:56 | <+Tetrajak> | nah it's cool, I threw it together with the parts I had on hand |
| 09:56 | <+Tetrajak> | any particular part that comes to mind? |
| 09:57 | <+Tetrajak> | (p.s. I've been told I'm very good at taking criticism and learning from it, so lay it on me) |
| 09:57 | <@randolph> | Hm. I think it just needs to be a bit more deliberate about primary/secondary/accents |
| 09:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright, gentledudes. |
| 09:57 | <@randolph> | Like, if black is your joint/musclefiber, ok |
| 09:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am out of terrain pieces. I hope 11 elements does it. |
| 09:57 | <@randolph> | ced: heh |
| 09:58 | <+Tetrajak> | randolph: yea, I see your point |
| 09:58 | <@randolph> | kk |
| 09:58 | <+Tetrajak> | I will toy with it in LDD and see what I come up with |
| 09:58 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x0j6oh3qgbeckn/Peaches.png |
| 09:58 | <@randolph> | ooh, nice |
| 09:59 | <@Soren> | probably should have turned off my templates, but whatever. |
| 09:59 | <@Soren> | They need some tuning, but here's the basic design. |
| 09:59 | <@randolph> | pubentes et dulcis |
| 09:59 | <@Soren> | hmm? |
| 09:59 | <@randolph> | juicy and sweet, in latin |
| 10:00 | <@randolph> | hehehe |
| 10:00 | <@Soren> | the fuck didn't I remember that? |
| 10:00 | <@Soren> | Oh, right. I never get to use my latin. |
| 10:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | That is so cool. |
| 10:00 | <@randolph> | it is |
| 10:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Useless, but cool. :D |
| 10:00 | <@randolph> | Nah |
| 10:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | OH. |
| 10:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | I GOT IT. |
| 10:00 | <@randolph> | I want to print some out and use them to bet |
| 10:00 | <@randolph> | on games |
| 10:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | GIFT VOUCHERS. |
| 10:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | DEMO GAMES. |
| 10:00 | <@Soren> | completely useless. but that's where the fun is. |
| 10:00 | <@Soren> | hee |
| 10:01 | <@randolph> | We could back these ourselves with peaches. |
| 10:01 | <@Soren> | we could |
| 10:02 | <+Tetrajak> | oh dear, I am laughing so hard |
| 10:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_2_start.png |
| 10:02 | <+Tetrajak> | these are AMAZING |
| 10:02 | <+Tetrajak> | thank you so much, Soren |
| 10:03 | <@randolph> | "The avarice of Old Earth is nowhere as apparent as that ancient ballad to the pursuit of wealth, penned, it is said, by the ruler of one of its principle nation-states himself - 'Peaches.'" |
| 10:03 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm so pleased that the MFZ universe runs on the "Peach Standard" |
| 10:04 | <+Tetrajak> | one peach credit gets you one fresh peach |
| 10:04 | <@Soren> | indeed. |
| 10:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's probably the best currency ever. |
| 10:04 | <+Tetrajak> | and thus no person who works an honest job will ever go hungry |
| 10:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | The backing makes no sense, but it's delicious. :D |
| 10:04 | <+Tetrajak> | for he can convert his currency into that which sustains him |
| 10:04 | <@randolph> | So, do the economists forecast "pit markets" and "preserve markets?" |
| 10:04 | <@Soren> | If I run any demo games, I think I'll actually bring a basket of peaches and some money to wager with. |
| 10:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Good idea, Soren. |
| 10:04 | <@Soren> | preserves are considered a solid investment. |
| 10:04 | <@randolph> | Is not man entitled to the fruit of his labor? |
| 10:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Very good idea. |
| 10:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | RANDY. |
| 10:05 | <+Tetrajak> | that is awesome |
| 10:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_2_start.png <-- I need feedback. |
| 10:05 | <@Soren> | Okay, that's going on the back. |
| 10:05 | <+Tetrajak> | oh god, Randy |
| 10:05 | <+Tetrajak> | bad puns |
| 10:05 | <@randolph> | IT'S A BLESSING AND A CURSE, YOU HEARD CED |
| 10:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Exactly. |
| 10:05 | <@randolph> | Ced: what do you want me to do? |
| 10:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Look at the map and say: "Aww naww son, 'dem hills don't workey." |
| 10:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or whatever. |
| 10:06 | <@randolph> | Ok, and those stations are defender setup? |
| 10:06 | <@randolph> | Are you using the optional elevation rules btw? |
| 10:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yupp, def stations. |
| 10:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, not yet. |
| 10:07 | <@randolph> | kk |
| 10:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Danni and I aren't too big fans. |
| 10:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Indestructible cover and complete defender fuckover isn't that cool. |
| 10:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | We'll probably tackle it later. |
| 10:07 | <@randolph> | Well, I mean, you can shoot the guy OFF the elevation heh |
| 10:08 | <@randolph> | but yeah |
| 10:08 | <@randolph> | Got a link to your companies again? |
| 10:08 | <@randolph> | (i.e. which rematch is this) |
| 10:10 | <@randolph> | nvm found the thread |
| 10:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. That one. |
| 10:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | 5 vs 6. |
| 10:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | I added the missing station(s). |
| 10:11 | <@randolph> | Ok, no melee at all, so that makes this a bunch easier to deal with |
| 10:12 | <@randolph> | Funny huh? It's pretty bad in general, but it forces you to take it into consideration on D |
| 10:12 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. Yeah. |
| 10:13 | <@randolph> | I'd say this looks pretty good - your biggest concern is dealing with the arty disparity |
| 10:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was thinking, since the back is safe, put the single A there. |
| 10:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Behind cover, obvy. |
| 10:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then, put the Soldier down first. |
| 10:13 | <@randolph> | well, so because of your layout, technically Offense can put dudes in your top left and right corners |
| 10:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | And after he has setup, put the Big Guns down. |
| 10:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | There is 1 unit space. |
| 10:14 | <@randolph> | But I don't think he will, unless it's to try to assassinate your arty and just go to town on you the rest of the game |
| 10:14 | <@randolph> | The map is small enough that the arty won't be safe long at backfield |
| 10:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Meh, between Danni and I, it's "the spirit of deployment" anyway. :D |
| 10:14 | <@randolph> | hehe |
| 10:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's funny. |
| 10:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | We're both competetive. |
| 10:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | And both very strategic. |
| 10:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | But when we play against each other, we basically troll each other like gentlemen. |
| 10:15 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 10:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Got Danni some darkblue/blue station markers, too. |
| 10:15 | <@randolph> | So, you know your "call me a powergamer, but I refuse to do things my character is too smart to fall for" rant? |
| 10:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 10:16 | <@randolph> | Totally agreed |
| 10:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh, thanks. |
| 10:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | I thought I was alone. |
| 10:16 | <@randolph> | I don't see "positioning defensive perimeter to force attacker spacing" as powergaming - it's a goddamned defensive perimeter - the reason nobody's inside is because we've been sweeping it |
| 10:17 | <@randolph> | ergo, I set up my base so people can't waltz in the front door |
| 10:17 | <@randolph> | If the rules represent their reality, and in their reality, their lives and resources are at stake, you best bet your ass they're going to optimize |
| 10:18 | <@randolph> | Friendly game, yes. Play for fun, absolutely. |
| 10:18 | <@randolph> | Just warn me in advance if you want my dudes to pretend they're amateurs :p |
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| 10:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. Well. *cough* You're a powergamer. :D |
| 10:19 | <@randolph> | yes, and I RP~ |
| 10:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_2_start.png <-- Reload the image. |
| 10:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | Added some containers and put my defender 'frames down. |
| 10:19 | <@randolph> | Is the back one Arty? |
| 10:21 | <@randolph> | I guess it must be, you have A / S / BG BG BG |
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| 10:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yupp, it is. |
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| 10:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Green Mamba /w Railgun. |
| 10:21 | <@randolph> | Hard to tell at that size |
| 10:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 10:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | We'll use After Effects to track 'frames. |
| 10:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | Probably, that is. |
| 10:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | I wonder whether attackers have offensive perimeters. |
| 10:22 | <@randolph> | no |
| 10:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | "WE SHOT AT THAT AREA FOR A LONGASS TIME. ALSO, IT'S KINDA INSULTING MY MOM." |
| 10:23 | <@randolph> | because in 3-way, they can mush into each other |
| 10:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, I was trying to make a play on words. |
| 10:23 | <@randolph> | It's weird, but I think nobody will do it after their first game |
| 10:23 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 10:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | OBVIOUSLY. NOT THAT FUNNY. |
| 10:23 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 10:24 | <@randolph> | Okay, so you have DF parity, and superior spot, except global spot |
| 10:24 | <@randolph> | He's not going to get to use that SSR on his arty if you leave it til last |
| 10:26 | <@randolph> | hmm. |
| 10:26 | <@randolph> | Yeah, looks fine |
| 10:28 | <@randolph> | The only thing better than this layout would be to clear the cover and make a no-man's land outside your perimeter, but he probably wouldn't go for that~ |
| 10:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, he won't. :D |
| 10:29 | <@Soren> | OKay, try the link again, guys. |
| 10:29 | <@randolph> | Hm. I hit reload, doesn't seem to have changed |
| 10:29 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x0j6oh3qgbeckn/Peaches.png ...or I can supply |
| 10:30 | <@randolph> | I don't see a change? |
| 10:31 | <@Soren> | fixed a couple minor errors and added the checker pattern. |
| 10:31 | <@randolph> | ahh |
| 10:31 | <@Soren> | which looks, pleasantly, a lot more peachfleshy. |
| 10:31 | <@randolph> | Decided against the pit latin, eh? <_< |
| 10:32 | <@randolph> | Still sweet |
| 10:32 | <@randolph> | Are modern currencies going more for the vibrant colors? |
| 10:33 | <@randolph> | I know some countries do |
| 10:33 | <@Soren> | Latin seems like an odd choice. Might do it in Cantonese, if someone gives me sample text. |
| 10:33 | <@randolph> | oh, sure |
| 10:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soren? |
| 10:33 | <@Soren> | what's up? |
| 10:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Can you make those squares actually represent the values in binary? |
| 10:34 | <@Soren> | Um. I could, but I was just gunning for a nice pattern. |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | I see that. |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | But. |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | BINARY. |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | SPACE AGE TECHNOLOGY. |
| 10:34 | <@Soren> | I could overlay the binary values on a different part of the bill. |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | CARBON FIBRES. |
| 10:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, but use squares, or circles, not numbers. |
| 10:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | It could grow out from the bottom numbers, maybe. |
| 10:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, you make it pretty. ^^ |
| 10:35 | <@Soren> | I've also got that nice little strip of red not doing anything. |
| 10:35 | <@Soren> | I will consider. |
| 10:36 | <@randolph> | the composition currently is really nice |
| 10:36 | <@randolph> | I don't want it to get busier |
| 10:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1681 |
| 10:36 | <@randolph> | re: chinese for it, all the phrases I'm thinking of don't really adequately convey the connotations |
| 10:36 | <@randolph> | I'll ask my parents over the weekend |
| 10:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy, can't you just tell him "peaches are awesome" in Cantonese? |
| 10:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or use "the plumber insulted my honor", stuff like that always works. |
| 10:37 | <@randolph> | yeah, but that's kind of a cop-out |
| 10:37 | <@Soren> | Honestly, I'd love it if they decided to play an awful joke with the hoary old symbolic Chinese. I love those. |
| 10:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Justin Timberlake had "I love figure skating" as a gang tattoo in one of his movies. |
| 10:37 | <@randolph> | must. powergame. flavortext. |
| 10:38 | <@Soren> | heh |
| 10:38 | <@randolph> | Soren: do you mean traditional, or like... pre-Qin chinese? |
| 10:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright. Smoke, coffee, awesome. |
| 10:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | BRB |
| 10:39 | <@Soren> | no, I mean the classic case of a silly Westerner who doesn't speak the language throwing in a random chunk of Chinese like a dickhead. |
| 10:39 | <@randolph> | oh heh |
| 10:39 | <@Soren> | I love it when horrible jokes are played with that. |
| 10:39 | <@randolph> | yeah, but I wouldn't do that to you, and MFZ ;p |
| 10:39 | <@Soren> | "This guy has no idea what the fuck he's doing" would work. |
| 10:39 | <@randolph> | oh, you mean intentionally |
| 10:39 | <@Soren> | yeah. |
| 10:40 | <@randolph> | hm. wouldn't all the native speakers catch that and point it out, eventually? :p |
| 10:40 | <@randolph> | They can't ALL hate the SU |
| 10:40 | <@randolph> | Or, you know, random guy who took a night class |
| 10:42 | <@Soren> | well, metafictionally. |
| 10:42 | <@randolph> | anyway, it's late here, I'll send you some snippets with translations over the weekend |
| 10:42 | <@Soren> | sure, no hurry. |
| 10:43 | <@randolph> | if you have any specific 'silly foreigner' phrases you want translated, fire those to me too :p |
| 10:43 | <@Soren> | I don't have a giant library of non-roman typefaces, either. |
| 10:43 | <@Soren> | heh. |
| 10:43 | <@Soren> | I will ponder. |
| 10:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | I KNOW THE BEST. |
| 10:43 | <@Ced23Ric> | "TRANSLATION ERROR" |
| 10:44 | <@randolph> | "PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS INTO CHINESE" |
| 10:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://10e.org/samcimg4/translation-server-error-in-restaurant.jpg |
| 10:44 | <@randolph> | ahahah |
| 10:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Please. |
| 10:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Please do that. |
| 10:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | It would be so FUCKING great.- |
| 10:45 | <@randolph> | heh, ok, I'll have to look up standardized error verbage, but that shouldn't be hard |
| 10:45 | <@randolph> | anyway, nn |
| 10:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.collegehumor.com/article/6786681/if-life-had-an-airplane-safety-manua l |
| 10:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Quick. |
| 10:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Look at that. |
| 10:46 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then go to bed. |
| 10:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright, the camera is set up, too. 2.5m above the ground, almost at the ceiling. :D |
| 10:56 | | * Ced23Ric prepares the costume. |
| 11:11 | <+Tetrajak> | randolph; I'm not so sure about cleaning up the Venus' colour scheme, actually. |
| 11:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy's asleep. :D |
| 11:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | And: Stick to the LDD and you are fine. |
| 11:11 | <+Tetrajak> | damnit |
| 11:11 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lime/White on Black works well. |
| 11:12 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm liking how the real one has come together though |
| 11:12 | <+Tetrajak> | the slight chaos of it, but symmetry, give it a more machine feeling to it's details |
| 11:13 | <+Tetrajak> | the varied colours emphasise the large number of small bricks involved, and turn them into details. Whereas, if they are mostly the same colour, the details disappear |
| 11:13 | <+Tetrajak> | it looks a lot more space-ship with the varied colours than it does with a more solid colour scheme |
| 11:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 11:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, whatever floats your boat more, really. |
| 11:14 | <@Ced23Ric> | It is a good looking 'frame no matter what. |
| 11:14 | <+Tetrajak> | mhm |
| 11:14 | <+Tetrajak> | thanks :D |
| 11:14 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm really pleased with how it turned out, and I'm really glad other people are too ^^ |
| 11:23 | <+Tetrajak> | damnit. I'm attempting to find a more comfortable colour scheme, I've come up with one that I can't necessarily create with all the parts I have handy -_- |
| 11:25 | <+Tetrajak> | well, ok, I CAN create some of it, but it's not as easy |
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| 11:44 | <+Tetrajak> | anyone still here and conscious? |
| 11:46 | <+Tetrajak> | I'll take the inactivity as a no |
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| 11:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mornin' Kev. |
| 11:54 | < afny> | hey |
| 11:55 | < afny> | Heh, Mitten is the last person I'd expect to post a thread like that challenge |
| 11:55 | < afny> | but his Bullfrog is so good |
| 11:56 | < afny> | I wouldn't be surprised if he just blew all our minds in the next few weeks with a ton of frames that don't use 5studs |
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| 12:01 | <@Soren> | It's likely! |
| 12:02 | < afny> | If I didn't cheat in the feet of my last five frames, they'd all qualify |
| 12:02 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7414306042/in/set-72157630233233756 |
| 12:02 | < afny> | and by cheat, I mean use taps |
| 12:03 | < afny> | imma go shower and then make something for that thread |
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| 12:06 | <@Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2x0j6oh3qgbeckn/Peaches.png When you get back, peachification has been happening. |
| 12:20 | < afny|away> | haha, those are awesome |
| 12:20 | < afny|away> | Juicy and Succulent |
| 12:20 | | afny|away is now known as afny |
| 12:22 | <@Soren> | thanks :) |
| 12:34 | < afny> | So I got a cheap little set of sorting trays...just one small one, but it's enough for all my 1x1 and 1x2 pieces |
| 12:34 | <@Soren> | excellent. |
| 12:34 | < afny> | it's completely revolutionized my life |
| 12:37 | <@Soren> | told you ;) |
| 13:00 | < afny> | I'm listening to one of these podcasts |
| 13:00 | < afny> | he says "Rother" |
| 13:00 | < afny> | so many times |
| 13:39 | < Ced|Rage> | Heh. |
| 13:39 | < Ced|Rage> | This game is going well. |
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| 13:40 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | T1: Took 2 DMG, dealt 4 DMG. |
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| 15:13 | < Mantisking> | Anyone here? |
| 15:16 | < afny> | yeah, takin pics |
| 15:16 | < afny> | Ced is in the middle of recording a game |
| 15:16 | < afny> | for our viewing pleasure |
| 15:25 | < Mantisking> | Neat. |
| 15:26 | < afny> | for Mitten's thread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7425757654/in/photostream |
| 15:27 | < afny> | hm |
| 15:27 | < afny> | I'm gonna get a better angle before I post it |
| 15:27 | < afny> | and add a blue accent |
| 15:35 | < Mantisking> | That link is broken. |
| 15:35 | < afny> | yeah, I deleted it |
| 15:35 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7425805564/in/photostream |
| 15:35 | < afny> | here's the new one |
| 15:35 | < Mantisking> | I posted a bunch of stuff to the thread myself. |
| 15:36 | < afny> | yeah, I'm currently checking them out |
| 15:36 | < Mantisking> | Most of my builds don't use the three "T"s. |
| 15:36 | < afny> | none of my original frames did, but I love them now |
| 15:36 | < afny> | you build at 6p, right? |
| 15:37 | < Mantisking> | Most of my stuff tends to fall into that scale. |
| 15:38 | < Mantisking> | I don't build intentionally unless it's buildings or vehicles. |
| 15:40 | < afny> | I like the yellow Hive guys |
| 15:41 | < afny> | the kind of raiders I imagine backing up that camo hi-leg |
| 15:43 | < afny> | hmm, I NEED to get some of those 45 degree hovercraft bumper things |
| 15:43 | < afny> | such a cool piece |
| 15:44 | < Mantisking> | Thanks. |
| 15:44 | < Mantisking> | I'm not sure about the hovercraft bumper. |
| 15:44 | < afny> | I loved the frame Ced made with it (the Couatl) and Mitten used it really well too |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | Alright. |
| 15:45 | < afny> | it's definitely "new school" |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | Game over. |
| 15:45 | < afny> | but I like it |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | 3 hours. |
| 15:45 | < afny> | WHO WON |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | Danni did. |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | I had 1 Fast Arty with 1DMG and 1 station left. |
| 15:45 | < afny> | now you must begin the arduous process |
| 15:45 | < afny> | of war documentary overdubbing |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | Danni had 1 undamaged Fast Arty, 1 1W ex-Arty and 1W ex-Soldier. |
| 15:45 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | And 5 stations. |
| 15:46 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | Also, this is a FUCKING WARZONE. |
| 15:46 | < afny> | you got wrecked, basically |
| 15:46 | < afny> | WRECKED. |
| 15:46 | < afny> | be sure to tell it from your perspective |
| 15:46 | < afny> | tell us how horrifying his shock troops were |
| 15:46 | < afny> | how they had no humanity. |
| 15:47 | < afny> | It's really cool that you guys actually took the time to do this |
| 15:48 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | We had fun. :) |
| 15:48 | < Ced|VidjaTapin> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/sl_nr_2_end.png |
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| 15:57 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | Heh. |
| 15:57 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | 16 GB footage. |
| 15:57 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | PRETTY SWEET. |
| 15:59 | < afny> | dats alot |
| 15:59 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | It is. |
| 15:59 | < afny> | check dis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7425805564/in/photostream/ |
| 15:59 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | It is also 3 hours and a bit of us gaming hardcore. :D |
| 15:59 | < afny> | I like how someone left their pudding on the battlefield |
| 15:59 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | Cool beans. |
| 15:59 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | It's Danni's. |
| 15:59 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | I forgot mine in the kitchen. |
| 16:04 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | Heh. |
| 16:04 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | Deployment took us 30 minites. |
| 16:04 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | *minutes |
| 16:05 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | And Danni did EXACTLY what Randy thought, at first. |
| 16:05 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | Deploy in the wee corner my station bubbles left. :D |
| 16:05 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | But that changed. |
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| 16:11 | <+MittenNinja> | heya guys |
| 16:11 | <+FerrelFerret> | Greetings, My bearded Brethren! |
| 16:12 | <+MittenNinja> | haha |
| 16:12 | < Ced|VidjaEditin> | Hello there! |
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| 16:12 | < Ced23Ric> | Alright. |
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| 16:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Today, Danni's gonna edit the vid, reduce it to 720p, fast-forward our smokebreaks, and convert it to Matroshka. |
| 16:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Then, I will sub title the whole shebang. |
| 16:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | And then, on Monday, Danni's gonna upload the carnage from work, where he has a Gigabit connection to the Internet. |
| 16:15 | < Mantisking> | Sounds good. |
| 16:15 | < afny> | you're going to sub it in one day? |
| 16:16 | < afny> | das a lot of subbing |
| 16:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well today/tomorrow. |
| 16:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | I'll probably do a QND subbing. |
| 16:16 | <@Ced23Ric> | As in, quick 'n dirty. |
| 16:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | I love how clean the battlefield was. |
| 16:17 | <@Ced23Ric> | And how destroyed it was in the end. |
| 16:17 | < Mantisking> | Isn't everything you do a little bit dirty? :D |
| 16:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | But of course. |
| 16:21 | < afny> | ahhh I added tap ankles to that spindly frame |
| 16:22 | < afny> | refreshing. |
| 16:22 | < afny> | no one else has to know. |
| 16:22 | < afny> | NO ONE. |
| 16:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | I DO KNOW NOW. |
| 16:22 | < afny> | it's too tall to use for mfz now |
| 16:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | THROW IT OUT. |
| 16:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | GIVE IT COMMANDER285r683973784z2829573638573t6585. |
| 16:23 | < afny> | well it's still less than 12 bricks tall |
| 16:23 | < afny> | it's just...not really the right scale anymore |
| 16:24 | < Mantisking> | Considering some of the stuff out there, how is it too tall? |
| 16:24 | < afny> | it's not the height, it's just that it's so spindy in the legs and stuff |
| 16:24 | < afny> | it looks weird at 7p |
| 16:24 | < afny> | it's actually just an EVA now |
| 16:24 | < afny> | I realize it even has an ECL plug |
| 16:24 | < afny> | wtf was I doing |
| 16:26 | <+MittenNinja> | experimenting |
| 16:26 | <+MittenNinja> | it happens |
| 16:27 | < Mantisking> | Hey, MN. |
| 16:27 | <+MittenNinja> | yessir? |
| 16:28 | <+MittenNinja> | or was that just a hey as in hello? |
| 16:28 | < Mantisking> | It was a "howdy". |
| 16:28 | <+MittenNinja> | haha |
| 16:28 | <+MittenNinja> | i always do that |
| 16:28 | <+MittenNinja> | how you doin mantis? |
| 16:28 | < Mantisking> | Say howdy? |
| 16:28 | < Mantisking> | I'm a little sore. |
| 16:29 | <+MittenNinja> | think someones asking me something when theyre just saying hey |
| 16:29 | < Mantisking> | Had the AC on a little too high last night. |
| 16:29 | < Mantisking> | Ah. |
| 16:29 | <+MittenNinja> | having the ac on makes you sore? |
| 16:29 | < Mantisking> | So, any opinions on the stuff I've posted to your 3T topic? |
| 16:30 | < Mantisking> | If you sleep without covers your -- meaning my -- muscles get cold. |
| 16:30 | < Mantisking> | And I've got a muscle injury in my back I have to be wary of. |
| 16:32 | <+MittenNinja> | ah i gotcha |
| 16:32 | <+MittenNinja> | good, simple, stuff there mantis |
| 16:32 | <+MittenNinja> | you always do manage to keep things un-complicated |
| 16:33 | < Mantisking> | Might be why nobody really raves about it. |
| 16:33 | <+MittenNinja> | im guilty myself of making things way too complicated sometimes |
| 16:33 | <+MittenNinja> | keeping things simple is good |
| 16:33 | <+MittenNinja> | the hard part is getting the detail in there while keeping it simple |
| 16:33 | <+MittenNinja> | thats why Soren is so fucking good |
| 16:33 | <+MittenNinja> | none of his frames are super complicated |
| 16:34 | <+MittenNinja> | but they all have lots of detail |
| 16:34 | < Mantisking> | True. |
| 16:34 | <+MittenNinja> | trying to achieve as much as possible with as little as possbile |
| 16:35 | <+MittenNinja> | builds that accomplish that are the ones that really stand out |
| 16:35 | <+MittenNinja> | hence the super chub |
| 16:35 | <+MittenNinja> | i mean |
| 16:35 | <+MittenNinja> | its a chub |
| 16:35 | <+MittenNinja> | but the thing is so damn articulate |
| 16:35 | <+MittenNinja> | and it's not over complex |
| 16:36 | < Mantisking> | I still have to build that mod. |
| 16:36 | < afny> | I actually don't think the super chub is anything special by itself, but MoralWarfare's stuff that uses those limbs looks incredible |
| 16:37 | < afny> | the articulation is nice, but it does muddy the outline unless you keep it under control, which he does really well |
| 16:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | I keep my outlines under control aswell. :( |
| 16:38 | < afny> | I never said you didn't |
| 16:38 | < afny> | I was talking about him because it's his basic design |
| 16:38 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, his chub itslef is nothing special per se. But what It has allowed the rest of the community to do with all the chub mods out there? Pheonominal |
| 16:38 | < Mantisking> | I want to do one that's a combo of Carbonbass and LFoW. |
| 16:39 | < afny> | Well I was saying this his original white super chub IS great, but not just because of the artic |
| 16:39 | <+MittenNinja> | oh yeah |
| 16:39 | < afny> | but the way he balances the new shapes in the shoulders with a limited color palette and very conservative weapons |
| 16:39 | <+MittenNinja> | simple and clean |
| 16:43 | < Mantisking> | MF, I just replied to your 3T blog post. |
| 16:50 | <+MittenNinja> | I saw :) |
| 16:51 | < Mantisking> | Are you seeing any interesting traffic on your blog? |
| 16:51 | < afny> | Mitten, did you see my entry? |
| 16:51 | < afny> | it's already been disqualified: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7426207878/in/photostream |
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| 16:58 | <+MittenNinja> | hahaha |
| 16:58 | <+MittenNinja> | looks good though afny! |
| 16:58 | < afny> | I just couldn't resist |
| 16:58 | < afny> | the clarion call of the tap |
| 16:58 | <+MittenNinja> | Mantis, I get a good amount of hits, and in all honesty, thats fine by mean |
| 16:58 | <+MittenNinja> | *me |
| 16:58 | < Mantisking> | So you're saying you "tapped out"? |
| 16:59 | <+MittenNinja> | I'm not doing it to get a huge thing going |
| 16:59 | <+MittenNinja> | its more of just another outlet to share my MFZ experiences |
| 16:59 | <+MittenNinja> | since I'm on DeviantArt, Flickr, Facebook, the forums etc |
| 16:59 | < Mantisking> | No, I mean from interesting little MFZ sites that aren't really known. |
| 16:59 | <+MittenNinja> | its somewhere wehere i can link everyone to all those resources |
| 16:59 | <+MittenNinja> | cross referenceing |
| 16:59 | <+MittenNinja> | ah! |
| 17:00 | <+MittenNinja> | no |
| 17:00 | < Mantisking> | Ah. |
| 17:00 | <+MittenNinja> | most of my hits come from facebook, DA, the MFZ site or one of the other larger blogs |
| 17:00 | <+MittenNinja> | and i get some from the wikia too |
| 17:07 | < Mantisking> | I get a lot for the Something Awful forums. |
| 17:08 | <+MittenNinja> | i got a few from there. There was a guy on there that built some iguanas and linked to my blog |
| 17:08 | <+MittenNinja> | that was pretty much it though |
| 17:12 | < Mantisking> | 295 hits over the life of the blog from the SA forums. |
| 17:12 | <@randolph> | morning guys |
| 17:12 | < Mantisking> | Afternoon. |
| 17:12 | <@randolph> | That thread is right, we've got a regular beard mafia up in here |
| 17:16 | <+MittenNinja> | www.facebook.com, mobileframezero.wikia.com, mobileframezero.com, www.kickstarter.com, www.deviantart.com, www.mobileframehangar.com in that order |
| 17:16 | <+MittenNinja> | The SA forums dont even show up on my all time stats |
| 17:17 | < afny> | Mantis just has more goon appeal than you |
| 17:18 | < afny> | They're an inscrutable bunch. |
| 17:18 | < Mantisking> | There's also a direct link to my blog on the first page of the SA discussion. |
| 17:19 | <+MittenNinja> | that probably helps |
| 17:19 | <+MittenNinja> | Once I get to play regularly I'll be doing a lot more blog entries on tactics and strategy. |
| 17:19 | <+MittenNinja> | But until then things will be pretty quiet methinks |
| 17:20 | < Mantisking> | MFZ home, Kickstarter, Kickstarter, No B.S., MFZ download, SA forums, Orion 6, Flickr, Kickstarter, my blog; are my top of all time. |
| 17:20 | < Mantisking> | Yeah, I tend to post more than you. |
| 17:21 | <+MittenNinja> | Yeah |
| 17:21 | <+MittenNinja> | you hit all the iconic builds right off the bat |
| 17:21 | <+MittenNinja> | I didnt see a point in duplicating them |
| 17:21 | < Mantisking> | Seemed like the right thing to do. |
| 17:21 | <+MittenNinja> | for sure |
| 17:21 | < Mantisking> | You did sneak a "spotlight" out from under me. |
| 17:22 | <+MittenNinja> | a-yates? |
| 17:22 | < Mantisking> | Yup. |
| 17:28 | < Mantisking> | So how many posts do you have in draft? |
| 17:29 | <+MittenNinja> | Zero |
| 17:30 | <+MittenNinja> | I dont often keep stuff in draft for long |
| 17:30 | <+MittenNinja> | i ether finish it up or scrap the idea |
| 17:33 | < afny> | added three new frames to this: http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1657&p=11595#p11595 |
| 17:33 | < afny> | I posted WIPS of them yesterday so maybe not all that new |
| 17:34 | <+MittenNinja> | nice |
| 17:34 | <+MittenNinja> | I still dont like how they're a bit bow-legged though |
| 17:34 | <+MittenNinja> | otherwise they look awesome |
| 17:34 | < afny> | that's my favorite part about them :P |
| 17:34 | < afny> | why don't you like it? |
| 17:35 | <+MittenNinja> | It looks like they should be riding a horse |
| 17:35 | <+MittenNinja> | idk |
| 17:35 | <+MittenNinja> | I just dont like it |
| 17:35 | <+MittenNinja> | thats me though |
| 17:42 | < afny> | I liked it I guess because those chubs have alternate melee configs with swords |
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| 17:43 | < afny> | and that's more or less a jodan kendo stance |
| 17:43 | < afny> | why giant robots would be doing kendo |
| 17:43 | < afny> | I do not know |
| 17:43 | <+MittenNinja> | Oh dont get me wrong, everything else looks awesome to me |
| 17:44 | <+MittenNinja> | just something about the legs doesnt sit right with me. |
| 17:44 | <+MittenNinja> | But they're your frames! |
| 17:44 | <+MittenNinja> | And they should look good to you more importantly than to me! |
| 17:45 | < afny> | Well I value your input |
| 17:45 | < afny> | even if I don't change these frames I'll consider it when I make new legs |
| 17:46 | < afny> | I definitely see where you're coming from, the roundness in the thighs combined with the gap of the free stud right above the second bar plate |
| 17:46 | < afny> | (which is left open for rotation) |
| 17:46 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 17:46 | < afny> | does sort of make a saddle gap, for lack of a better and less disturbing phrase |
| 17:46 | <+MittenNinja> | I just feel like you could achieve the same articulation and rotation while removing that gap |
| 17:47 | < afny> | I'm not entirely sure how, at least not without making the legs longer |
| 17:47 | < afny> | the thing is I didn't even consider it when making the other, less humanoid frames |
| 17:47 | < afny> | b |
| 17:47 | < afny> | +ut then I just adapted those legs to these chub-esque guys |
| 17:47 | < afny> | they're not really supposed to BE chubs, they're intended to look kind of freaky next to a stock chub |
| 17:47 | <+MittenNinja> | are those just 1x2 plates on the bottom of the torso? |
| 17:47 | < afny> | but I'm still willing to tweak |
| 17:48 | < afny> | uhh yeah |
| 17:48 | < afny> | they sandwich a ring plate |
| 17:48 | < afny> | which is at the BACK of the two plates |
| 17:48 | <+MittenNinja> | right right |
| 17:48 | < afny> | at the front is just a 1x1 round |
| 17:48 | <+MittenNinja> | hrmmm |
| 17:49 | < afny> | hm |
| 17:49 | < afny> | actually just adding a tile clip to the top of the thigh bar plate |
| 17:49 | < afny> | looks pretty damn good |
| 17:49 | <+MittenNinja> | maybe even just moving the clip attached to the feet to the outside of the leg |
| 17:49 | < afny> | uhh |
| 17:49 | < afny> | oh, you mean reversing the tap? |
| 17:50 | <+MittenNinja> | no |
| 17:50 | <+MittenNinja> | although that might help too |
| 17:50 | < afny> | well the clip can't attach on the outside |
| 17:50 | < afny> | or else that bumper won't fit |
| 17:50 | <+MittenNinja> | put it directly under the boat bumper? |
| 17:50 | <+MittenNinja> | whats that black plate under it? |
| 17:50 | < afny> | probably a grille |
| 17:51 | <+MittenNinja> | ah that would mess with your knee articulation |
| 17:51 | < afny> | hm |
| 17:51 | < afny> | reversing the tap makes it shorter |
| 17:51 | < afny> | but it's not bad |
| 17:51 | < afny> | let me see |
| 17:53 | < afny> | eh, it looks good but it loses too much rotation in the foot |
| 17:54 | < afny> | well I'm going to go hit some garage sales, I'll keep messing with it when I come back |
| 17:54 | < afny> | and I still have one more remake to do |
| 17:54 | < afny> | thanks for the help |
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| 17:55 | <+MittenNinja> | no prob! |
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| 18:00 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | How's everyone doing? |
| 18:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | M'alright. |
| 18:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | You? |
| 18:02 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | I'm going to be picking up a can of VHT Jet Black Gloss vinyl dye from O'Reilly's today. |
| 18:03 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Then I'll be sorting my new brickwork order. |
| 18:03 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Bricklink* |
| 18:06 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | How are things in Deutschland, Ced? |
| 18:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Played the game with Danni today. |
| 18:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Rendering the Vid will probably take all night. |
| 18:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | And then, I have to sub it. |
| 18:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | Which will probably take all of Sunday. :D |
| 18:08 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Sounds like fun. Ever heard of a company called Tech Data? |
| 18:12 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | No? :) We have a warehouse there |
| 18:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Doesn't ring a bell. |
| 18:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am also working on an Ijad Chub. |
| 18:16 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Ooh, sounds nice. Can't wait to see it. |
| 18:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, I think I am onto something. Lemme show you. |
| 18:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_chub2.png |
| 18:20 | <+MittenNinja> | nice ceddo |
| 18:20 | <+MittenNinja> | looks a little tall |
| 18:20 | <+MittenNinja> | is that intentional? |
| 18:21 | <+FerrelFerret_phone> | Looks good. |
| 18:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, yeah, because LDD doesn't accept sideways taps. |
| 18:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's actually about 1 brick smaller than tHAT: |
| 18:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because, instead of up and clipped on, the taps will be down and pushed in. |
| 18:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | But LDD don't like that. :D |
| 18:22 | <+MittenNinja> | ah gotcha |
| 18:22 | <+MittenNinja> | Welp. My moss green iguana company is under way |
| 18:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | YAY. :D |
| 18:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | Maybe ... maybe I can trick LDD. |
| 18:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ugh. |
| 18:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | That looks horrible. :D |
| 18:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Wait, this works. |
| 18:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Oh snap. |
| 18:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | I might've actually just rebuilt a crucial part. |
| 18:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright, gentlemen. |
| 18:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_chub3.png |
| 18:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | How's that? |
| 18:32 | <+MittenNinja> | better |
| 18:32 | <+MittenNinja> | personally i dont like using t-pieces like that |
| 18:32 | <+MittenNinja> | but there isnt anything wrong with it |
| 18:32 | <+MittenNinja> | i just dont like it |
| 18:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | How do you mean? |
| 18:36 | <+MittenNinja> | It doesnt give you any rotational articulation |
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| 18:36 | <+MittenNinja> | well in your case it does |
| 18:36 | <+MittenNinja> | i take that back |
| 18:36 | <+MittenNinja> | idk |
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| 18:36 | <+MittenNinja> | i just dont like using them for hip joints |
| 18:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ah. Well, here, it actually helps me a lot. |
| 18:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gives me a new angle, is fully rotary, and it's not a tap/clip connection. |
| 18:38 | <+MittenNinja> | for sure |
| 18:38 | <+MittenNinja> | theres absolutely nothing wrong with it |
| 18:38 | <+MittenNinja> | i just dont like it :) |
| 18:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. :D |
| 18:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_chub_flank.png |
| 18:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_chub_back.png |
| 18:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | PS: Stole the launcher from you. |
| 18:39 | <+MittenNinja> | It was shared so it would be stolen :) |
| 18:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am debating on giving individual 'frames different head colors. |
| 18:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Like, Red for Arty, Yellow for DF, Green for Melee, you know? |
| 18:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hell, even pink works. |
| 18:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Or medium blue. Mhmm. That's nice. |
| 18:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | M'alright. |
| 18:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Time to build weapons. |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_rifle.png |
| 18:52 | <@Ced23Ric> | How about that? |
| 18:53 | <@randolph> | Looks cool, but the ironsight is weirdly extraneous |
| 18:53 | <@randolph> | Also... I dunno, I know the aesthetic you're going for, but it doesn't look remotely curvy enough for Ijad~ |
| 18:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | I am somewhat limited. |
| 18:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Also, those would be the Vesopian Ijads. |
| 18:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Which are heavily merged with the humans there. |
| 18:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's just the Council (purple Ijadee) that is conservative and pro-Ijad. |
| 18:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | Whereas the Conclave is fully embracing the humans. |
| 18:55 | <@Ced23Ric> | (Hence, Conclave 'tech is very humanized. Ref: Manipulators arms on Scramblers.) |
| 18:56 | <@randolph> | ah ok |
| 18:57 | <@randolph> | Just watching out for my pro-slope interest groups |
| 18:57 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 18:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | Promised, the long range weapon will be curvier. |
| 19:15 | <@randolph> | Hm |
| 19:15 | <@randolph> | I could rework a bunch of frames to use a robot claw to qualify for the triple-T challenge, but it feels like cheating |
| 19:16 | < afny|away> | MAKE NEW FRAMES |
| 19:16 | | afny|away is now known as afny |
| 19:16 | <@randolph> | Mm. |
| 19:16 | <~Noah> | Slopes are so over-rated |
| 19:16 | <@randolph> | Oh no you di'n't. |
| 19:17 | < afny> | man |
| 19:17 | < afny> | I realize now |
| 19:17 | < afny> | I don't have a single 3x3 dish |
| 19:17 | < afny> | and I need one. |
| 19:17 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 19:17 | <@randolph> | I think I'll make an even bigger, beefier Terracotta Warrior |
| 19:18 | <@randolph> | That'll give me the scale to add the articulation I want, *and* get rid of T joints and taps |
| 19:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange.png |
| 19:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | How is that? |
| 19:18 | <@randolph> | nice |
| 19:19 | <@randolph> | can you make the center of the three protrusions raised by 1 more transplate? |
| 19:19 | <@randolph> | give it a bit of asymmetry and implication of piston action |
| 19:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was going for capictor chambers. |
| 19:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | But lemme try. |
| 19:19 | <@randolph> | ah k |
| 19:19 | <@randolph> | the grip is the only part that breaks the flow, imo |
| 19:20 | <@randolph> | I know it's a v. useful grip piece, but it doesn't sweep like it should |
| 19:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | ... Good fucking call, Randy. |
| 19:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange2.png |
| 19:20 | <@randolph> | :D |
| 19:20 | <@randolph> | hot |
| 19:20 | <@Ced23Ric> | Debating on playing with the back slope. |
| 19:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Make it a round plate /w round tile. |
| 19:21 | <@randolph> | Too much back there and you might have trouble posing it |
| 19:21 | <@randolph> | Runs into biceps |
| 19:21 | <@randolph> | Big, manly, robot biceps |
| 19:22 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange3.png |
| 19:22 | <@randolph> | Hm, I liked the slope better |
| 19:23 | <@randolph> | Try a 1x3 curve slope on a 1x1 round or square plate on the stock, curving inward down? |
| 19:23 | <@randolph> | Or a 1x2 grille slope in white maybe |
| 19:23 | <@Ced23Ric> | You gave me an idea. |
| 19:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange4.png |
| 19:25 | <@randolph> | That's pretty sweet |
| 19:25 | <@Ced23Ric> | Gives it a bit more bulk, too. |
| 19:25 | <@randolph> | You know |
| 19:26 | <@randolph> | If you put that arch brick where the bottom piston is, sweeping backwards, you've got a grip guard |
| 19:26 | <@randolph> | then you can put a (piece of?) lightsaber blade as a grip |
| 19:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm. |
| 19:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | *tries* |
| 19:27 | <@randolph> | Also, this now looks like a man-portable Mass Relay, which is *awesome* |
| 19:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | The headlight brick ain't making this easy. |
| 19:29 | <@randolph> | ah |
| 19:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | You know, I can make that work. |
| 19:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | But you are pretty much asking me to cut up a bar. |
| 19:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange5.png |
| 19:31 | <@Ced23Ric> | I have to admit, that looks, all in all, really sleek. |
| 19:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, it collides with the shoulders. :/ |
| 19:34 | <@randolph> | could that just be a tap or t-bar or claw instead of a cut bar? |
| 19:34 | <@randolph> | or other similar minifig utensil crammed strategically? |
| 19:35 | <@randolph> | like if that bottom 1x1 round has a hole in it, you could use a minifig screwdriver |
| 19:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | I think I got something. Let me show you. |
| 19:35 | <@randolph> | k |
| 19:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange6.png |
| 19:36 | <@randolph> | I can't tell what you're actually using in there |
| 19:36 | <@randolph> | ls grip? |
| 19:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lightsabrehandle. :D |
| 19:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | YUpp. |
| 19:36 | <@randolph> | gotcha |
| 19:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | I could take that. |
| 19:36 | <@randolph> | I don't like it that long, but it's a good compromise for usability |
| 19:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | And chop the bottom off. |
| 19:36 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because, fuck it. |
| 19:37 | <@randolph> | ooh |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | I use hacks. :D |
| 19:37 | <@randolph> | that 1x1 square? |
| 19:37 | <@randolph> | toothplate maybe? |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah? |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | The 1x1 tile? |
| 19:37 | <@randolph> | the plate |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | OH. |
| 19:37 | <@randolph> | between the arch grip |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | That one. |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | HRM. |
| 19:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme try. |
| 19:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange7.png |
| 19:39 | <@randolph> | The tootplate looks good, but it can also work either way |
| 19:39 | <@randolph> | I like the shorter guard |
| 19:39 | <@randolph> | Dunno if that tap will actually hold well though |
| 19:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's just a placeholder. |
| 19:40 | <@randolph> | ah kk |
| 19:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme see whether I can shove a ls-grip INTO a headlight. |
| 19:40 | <@randolph> | How's the nozzle look, shortened by a 1x1 roundbrick? |
| 19:41 | <@randolph> | might need to be bulked back out with 1x1 white or trans rounds later, but it looks a tad long |
| 19:41 | <@randolph> | ("IT'S TOO LONG, USE TRANNIES") |
| 19:42 | <@Ced23Ric> | Lemme try something. |
| 19:42 | <@randolph> | kk |
| 19:42 | <@randolph> | I've got another idea for when you've explored that one |
| 19:43 | <@randolph> | You know, if you're just using that transbar in the barrel to reverse the stud direction, you can put a 1/2 pin in that front black brick |
| 19:43 | < afny> | just felt like you had to throw an insensitive joke in there, huh |
| 19:43 | <@randolph> | Oh, it's *very* sensitive |
| 19:44 | < afny> | :\ |
| 19:44 | <@randolph> | ... you're right, this channel is rubbing off on me <_< |
| 19:44 | < afny> | this channel isn't offensive, it's just dirty |
| 19:45 | < afny> | but that comment was kind of offensive |
| 19:45 | < afny> | Ced, are your big ass Ijad at all based on super striders? |
| 19:45 | <~Noah> | It's so offensive, it rolls rrRRRR |
| 19:45 | < afny> | I feel like I'm going to be very hypocritical and make a human piloted scrambler now :| |
| 19:46 | <@randolph> | Give it five limbs instead of 4, no eye, and have one of the legs be the head |
| 19:46 | <@randolph> | proportion the front and back legs so the joints are the right way |
| 19:46 | <@randolph> | (for a human) |
| 19:47 | <@randolph> | starfish alien, human-style |
| 19:47 | <@randolph> | Like, a geth mashed into a scrambler |
| 19:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Kev: The purples? |
| 19:47 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, those are based of the Scrambler. |
| 19:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_longrange8.png |
| 19:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | I just tried "in the brick". |
| 19:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | I can shove the ls grip in there. |
| 19:48 | <@randolph> | ooh it fits |
| 19:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | It'll look like that. |
| 19:48 | <@randolph> | awesome |
| 19:48 | <@randolph> | Ok, 2 last ideas |
| 19:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | LDD don't know that, so I made the LS grip hover behind it. :D |
| 19:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | And it also lost the 2 stud in the back. |
| 19:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's gonna be a bit more flimsy now. |
| 19:49 | <@randolph> | 1) if you swap the 1x1 roundplate-with-hole in the barrel for a 1/2 pin pin-end into the body, you can just mount the cone directly there, ending right where the "contacts" of the arches in front meet |
| 19:49 | <@randolph> | could be good, could be bad, dunno |
| 19:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | And I added an open white round in the front. |
| 19:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, meh. |
| 19:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | I like it like that. |
| 19:50 | <@randolph> | 2) if you flip the hinge tile on one side of the stock 180, you can attach one of those technic levers, giving you action or greeble |
| 19:51 | <@randolph> | Might be too greebly for the sleek aesthetic though |
| 19:52 | <@randolph> | But it already looks good as-is |
| 19:52 | <~Noah> | Too......greebly? |
| 19:52 | <@randolph> | IJAD. |
| 19:53 | <@randolph> | iJad. Soren's iMoonfang comes in strawberry, Ced's iConclave comes in grape |
| 19:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | The iCouncil, please. |
| 19:54 | <@randolph> | Ah, sorry |
| 19:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | The iConclave is black/white and trans light blue. |
| 19:54 | <@Ced23Ric> | Maybe blue, but I don't see that accent yet. |
| 19:55 | <@randolph> | Hehe. So I guess you should amend it to "don't ask Randolph for design advice unless it involves alien geometries~" |
| 19:55 | <~Noah> | iSlug: You're goopy friend who's fun to be with. |
| 19:55 | <~Noah> | your* |
| 19:58 | <@randolph> | getting lunch, bbl |
| 20:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_rifle2.png |
| 20:01 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just consider that grip flush. |
| 20:16 | <+MittenNinja> | IGUANAS ROLL OUT! http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7427261942/in/photostream |
| 20:28 | < afny> | All we need now are a few peaches... |
| 20:28 | < afny> | ...and a lot of luck. |
| 20:28 | < afny> | I'm so at a loss with the Cybele redux |
| 20:28 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can do it, Kev. |
| 20:28 | < afny> | I had a huge super strider with technic parts bricked up |
| 20:28 | < afny> | but it was just, like |
| 20:29 | < afny> | ...a monster |
| 20:29 | < afny> | but I don't want to just make another Chub, either |
| 20:29 | <+MittenNinja> | start messing with parts that youve never used for frames before |
| 20:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 20:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | LIKE PINE TREES. |
| 20:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | AND LEAVES. |
| 20:29 | <+MittenNinja> | youll come up with something unique |
| 20:29 | < afny> | I'm looking at my handful of bionicle bits in that regard |
| 20:30 | < afny> | this frame already has that bellville umbrella 4x4 dish that needs to go in there though, so I'm not sure how many weird big bits I can fit |
| 20:30 | <+MittenNinja> | i never said that had to be big |
| 20:30 | <+MittenNinja> | find a funky 1x2 modified plate you havent used before or something |
| 20:31 | <+MittenNinja> | see what you can come up with for connections |
| 20:31 | < afny> | hm |
| 20:31 | < afny> | maybe some of those L bar plates |
| 20:31 | < afny> | I have them in blue, which is the right color |
| 20:31 | <+MittenNinja> | there ya go |
| 20:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_chub4.png |
| 20:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | How you like the color splash? |
| 20:32 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah man |
| 20:32 | <+MittenNinja> | looks good |
| 20:32 | <+MittenNinja> | so ceddo |
| 20:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah! |
| 20:32 | <+MittenNinja> | those iguanas? |
| 20:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, fav'ed it already. ^^ |
| 20:32 | <+MittenNinja> | all of those wedges were a mix matxh of random colors |
| 20:33 | <+MittenNinja> | yellows, reds, blues, green, grey etc |
| 20:33 | <+MittenNinja> | i still cant believe how well that dye sets in |
| 20:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | What. |
| 20:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Really? |
| 20:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | What colors did you use there? O_o |
| 20:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Like, what wedge colors. |
| 20:35 | <+MittenNinja> | red yellow blue grey brown white green |
| 20:35 | <+MittenNinja> | maybe a black one in there somewhere |
| 20:36 | <+MittenNinja> | total rainbow of colors before i used the dye |
| 20:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's wicked. |
| 20:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | You can but whatever is cheapest. |
| 20:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | And dye it. |
| 20:37 | <+MittenNinja> | yep |
| 20:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | ALright. |
| 20:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | So I got the base 'frame, the DF rifle, the A rifle. |
| 20:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | What else would I need anyway? |
| 20:38 | <@Ced23Ric> | Arty is gonna be A Y Y G. He gets two domes and the A rifle. |
| 20:39 | <@Ced23Ric> | Soldier gets DF rifle, SSR, one dome. And maybe some sort of added movement majigger. |
| 20:48 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_company.png |
| 20:49 | <+MittenNinja> | nice |
| 20:49 | <+MittenNinja> | i think those guys would look sick in a black/orange or black/lime color scheme |
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| 20:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah, but that would collide with their faction colors. |
| 20:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | White looks so clean. ^_^ |
| 20:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright. |
| 20:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | Now I have to design a 2x DF weapon. |
| 20:56 | <@Ced23Ric> | And I have, honestly, no idea what to do. |
| 21:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Mhmm. |
| 21:00 | <@Ced23Ric> | Let's try this ... |
| 21:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_biggun.png |
| 21:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | There. |
| 21:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Comments? |
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| 21:07 | <+MittenNinja> | reminds me of one of the guns from the newer Wolfenstein game |
| 21:09 | <@Ced23Ric> | I was going for a BFG vibe. |
| 21:09 | | MoF0-1120 is now known as Mantisking |
| 21:09 | < Mantisking> | I'm back from dropping off the Gf at the airport. |
| 21:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_biggun2.png |
| 21:10 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya MK! :) |
| 21:10 | < Mantisking> | Hey! |
| 21:11 | <+MittenNinja> | personally, I'd remove the cone on the front |
| 21:12 | < Mantisking> | Or at least make it a solid color. |
| 21:12 | <+MittenNinja> | the rest of the gun is big and bulky but that cone is the only part that gives a lithe and lean aesthetic |
| 21:12 | <+MittenNinja> | it just doesnt fit IMO |
| 21:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hrm. |
| 21:15 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alternatives? |
| 21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | just take it off |
| 21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | leave the stud as the barrel |
| 21:17 | <+MittenNinja> | er the round 1x1 |
| 21:18 | <@Ced23Ric> | Hrm. |
| 21:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_biggun3.png |
| 21:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Like so? |
| 21:24 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, there ya go |
| 21:24 | <+MittenNinja> | looks much more cohesive |
| 21:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Ugh. |
| 21:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Sub titling will take forever. |
| 21:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | It took me 10 minutes for 2 minutes. |
| 21:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | So it will take me ... |
| 21:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | 750 minutes. |
| 21:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | ISH. |
| 21:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | GIVE OR TAKE A YEAR. |
| 21:42 | < Mantisking> | Ouch. |
| 21:50 | < Mantisking> | MN, I told you I was going to jack that topic up. |
| 21:54 | <+MittenNinja> | hahaha |
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| 22:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Tartarjack. |
| 22:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | Rawmeat. |
| 22:03 | < Tetarjak> | eh? |
| 22:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | *Butcher's voice* "Ah ... fresh meat." |
| 22:03 | <+MittenNinja> | heh |
| 22:03 | <+MittenNinja> | heya tj |
| 22:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | You derped when you should've herped, Tartarjack. |
| 22:03 | <@Ced23Ric> | You joined Lysdexia Utined. |
| 22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | you know 61% of the population is dyslexic? |
| 22:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's a huge clan. |
| 22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | actually, it might have been 16% |
| 22:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Who knows! |
| 22:04 | < afny> | Was that a Diablo 1 reference? |
| 22:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | It was. |
| 22:04 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 22:04 | <@Ced23Ric> | Also, I am making fun of TJ. |
| 22:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because he misspelled his nickname. |
| 22:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | And I am calling him Tartarjack until he fixes it. |
| 22:05 | <@Ced23Ric> | Maybe a bit longer. |
| 22:06 | < afny> | maybe forever. |
| 22:06 | | * Noah grumbles about unresponsive Craigslisters |
| 22:06 | < Tetarjak> | pfft |
| 22:06 | < Tetarjak> | so I did |
| 22:06 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yes you did. |
| 22:06 | | Tetarjak is now known as Tetrajak |
| 22:06 | | mode/#mf0 [+v Tetrajak] by ChanServ |
| 22:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_company2.png |
| 22:07 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's done. |
| 22:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | L2R: AYYB, DFYBG-R, DFDFYB, DFYYB (1x R). |
| 22:08 | <+Tetrajak> | Yay shoulders :D |
| 22:08 | <@Ced23Ric> | :D |
| 22:08 | <+Tetrajak> | the rest of the design looks very cool too |
| 22:10 | <+Tetrajak> | Wow, there is so much activity on the flicker and in the hangar that it's difficult to keep track of all the new frames XD |
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| 22:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 22:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | Good sign. |
| 22:13 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_biggun4.png |
| 22:15 | <+Tetrajak> | hehe, neat |
| 22:19 | <+Tetrajak> | man, those shoulders, I am never going to hear the end of |
| 22:19 | <+Tetrajak> | not that I mind |
| 22:19 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_arty2.png |
| 22:20 | <+Tetrajak> | I like how big and chunky the guns are |
| 22:20 | <+MittenNinja> | they look good man |
| 22:20 | <+Tetrajak> | how tall are the frames? |
| 22:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Just like normal Superchubs. |
| 22:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Maybe a pkate higher. |
| 22:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | *plate |
| 22:21 | <@Ced23Ric> | Because the feet are a little thicker. |
| 22:21 | <~Noah> | Which are like normal chubs, except super |
| 22:26 | <+Tetrajak> | heh, cool, so not too big |
| 22:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_soldier.png |
| 22:26 | <+Tetrajak> | It amuses me how the "accepted" size of frames is slowly creeping upwards |
| 22:26 | <@Ced23Ric> | Nah, they are perfectly fine in scale. |
| 22:26 | | * Ced23Ric just realize how great 2 black 1x1 rounds look as a neck. |
| 22:27 | <+Tetrajak> | it is pretty cool |
| 22:27 | <+Tetrajak> | as for size, sure, it's find in scale, but so are even bigger mechs |
| 22:27 | <+Tetrajak> | point is that months ago, people were only building frames that were close to the size of a chub, and were then reducing the size of anything they built which ended up taller |
| 22:28 | <+Tetrajak> | now we have the super chub, and it has been accepted because everyone loves how posable it is |
| 22:28 | <+Tetrajak> | so suddenly 9 bricks is an acceptable height |
| 22:29 | <+Tetrajak> | and even Soren is going so far as to increase the size of his "cage" in which he builds his frames, all the way up to 12 bricks high |
| 22:29 | <+Tetrajak> | that is almost twice the height of an original chub |
| 22:30 | <+MittenNinja> | size creep |
| 22:30 | <+MittenNinja> | it was bound to happen |
| 22:30 | <+Tetrajak> | my concern is the disparity in size between someone who has fielded a company of chubs versus someone who has fielded a company of their own mechs that are "still within the size limits... right?... right?" at 10 bricks+ tall |
| 22:31 | <+MittenNinja> | Yeah i hear ya |
| 22:31 | <~Noah> | Once we start going past minifig size, I'll start complaining |
| 22:31 | <+MittenNinja> | personally I wont go any bigger than around 9 bricks |
| 22:31 | <+Tetrajak> | heh. There are some very cool lego hardsuit designs out there which fit minifigs |
| 22:31 | <+MittenNinja> | if I want a "bigger" mech i'll go wider and bulkier |
| 22:31 | <+MittenNinja> | case in point the grand naga and anaconda |
| 22:31 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm worried just because I've made the Venus and it's 9bricks tall, and people are so keen on me building a company of them |
| 22:32 | <+MittenNinja> | people like what looks cool |
| 22:32 | < afny> | why are you worried? |
| 22:32 | <+Tetrajak> | but I can't actually make the frame smaller without giving it different shoulders |
| 22:32 | <+MittenNinja> | they really dont care if it's 7 or 9 bricks tall |
| 22:32 | <+Tetrajak> | I know |
| 22:32 | < afny> | I've got no problem fielding the aphrodite at 10 bricks |
| 22:32 | <+MittenNinja> | as long as it isnt 12 |
| 22:32 | <+Tetrajak> | but if 9 bricks is acceptable at the moment |
| 22:32 | <+Tetrajak> | 12 isn't far off |
| 22:32 | <+Tetrajak> | in the future, that is |
| 22:32 | <+MittenNinja> | i dont think so |
| 22:33 | < afny> | if Soren said 12, 12 will be accepted |
| 22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | the only reason why it's jumped up to 9ish |
| 22:33 | < afny> | that |
| 22:33 | < afny> | 's just how it goes |
| 22:33 | <+Tetrajak> | yea, I know |
| 22:33 | < afny> | I think Super Striders are pretty damn tall, but I haven't counted |
| 22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | is the fact that you need some extra plates worth to get articulation in |
| 22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | they aren't any bigger than a grand naga |
| 22:33 | <+Tetrajak> | Mitten: yea, I know :/ |
| 22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | ive seen them side by side |
| 22:33 | <+Tetrajak> | the grand naga is 9 bricks tall as well? |
| 22:33 | <+MittenNinja> | right around there yeah |
| 22:34 | <+Tetrajak> | argh. 9 bricks seems to have become the perfect height for higher detail frames |
| 22:34 | <@randolph> | hey guys |
| 22:34 | <+Tetrajak> | heya randy |
| 22:35 | <@randolph> | I don't see size disparity as being scale disparity |
| 22:35 | <+MittenNinja> | true |
| 22:35 | <+Tetrajak> | nor I |
| 22:35 | <+MittenNinja> | and the anaconda is as high as a chub |
| 22:35 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm not worried about scale disparity |
| 22:35 | <+MittenNinja> | its just twice as wide :) |
| 22:35 | <+Tetrajak> | well, I would worry if there WAS scale disparity, but I don't think there is |
| 22:36 | <@randolph> | Well, there's that one guy on flickr |
| 22:36 | <@randolph> | But yeah. |
| 22:36 | <+Tetrajak> | there is always "that one guy" |
| 22:37 | <+Tetrajak> | anywho, I'm going to go and inventory my bricks for the slightly altered colour scheme of the Venus |
| 22:37 | <@randolph> | So, honest opinions, please - is it worth it for me to develop off the terracotta frame? |
| 22:37 | <+Tetrajak> | I'll be nearby |
| 22:37 | <@randolph> | Or keep looking for another base? |
| 22:37 | <+Tetrajak> | randolph: I'm not feeling it :/ |
| 22:37 | <+Tetrajak> | another base please |
| 22:37 | <@randolph> | Anything in particular off about it? |
| 22:37 | <+Tetrajak> | plus bigger samurai hats |
| 22:38 | <+Tetrajak> | I'm not liking the barrel torso |
| 22:38 | < afny> | I like the frame, but I don't think it's appropriate for the setting |
| 22:38 | < afny> | I know you've made it fit in fluff, but it looks VERY similar to the frame Josh posted and said |
| 22:38 | <@randolph> | Ah |
| 22:38 | <+Tetrajak> | the terracotta warriors weren't that fat, or that armoured |
| 22:38 | < afny> | hey, this is cool, but don't try to shoehorn it into the Solar Century setting |
| 22:38 | < afny> | that's what I feel like is going on |
| 22:38 | <+Tetrajak> | I agree with afny |
| 22:39 | <+Tetrajak> | *said he who had plans to someday make a steampunk company of frames) |
| 22:39 | <+Tetrajak> | * |
| 22:39 | < afny> | Yeah, I want to do stuff like that too |
| 22:39 | < afny> | but not in SC |
| 22:39 | <@randolph> | Hm, I'd better find that thread again |
| 22:40 | <+MittenNinja> | I think its a really cool concept, Randy, but I think you can do a lot better than that. |
| 22:41 | <+MittenNinja> | it doesnt really fit |
| 22:41 | <+MittenNinja> | basically what afny said |
| 22:41 | < afny> | I'm one to talk, though |
| 22:41 | < afny> | I've just made a chub in a skirt |
| 22:42 | <+MittenNinja> | hahaha |
| 22:42 | <+MittenNinja> | always "improving" your designs |
| 22:42 | <@randolph> | Ok, fair enough |
| 22:43 | <+MittenNinja> | The only design I have that I'm truly happy with is the Iguana |
| 22:43 | <+MittenNinja> | everything else is still evolving |
| 22:44 | <@randolph> | I guess I'm having a very hard time getting "what is and isn't SC" in focus |
| 22:44 | < afny> | this one is the only one I'm completely happy with: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7413544130/in/photostream |
| 22:44 | <+MittenNinja> | I still like the Aphrodite more |
| 22:44 | < afny> | I'm still tweaking it |
| 22:45 | < afny> | the aphro |
| 22:45 | <+MittenNinja> | most of the Union and UMFL forces have a feel similar to Front Mission and Heavy Gear |
| 22:45 | < afny> | wat |
| 22:45 | < afny> | well, heavy gear I'll give you |
| 22:45 | <+MittenNinja> | talking to randy |
| 22:45 | < afny> | but Front Mission? |
| 22:45 | < afny> | No, I know |
| 22:45 | <@randolph> | Front Mission wanzers aren't *that* off |
| 22:45 | <@randolph> | Spidertanks notwithstanding |
| 22:45 | < afny> | I...GUESS? |
| 22:46 | <+MittenNinja> | style wise theyre pretty damn similar |
| 22:46 | < afny> | I see Chubs/Rumble Monkies as this http://ti-x.no-ip.com/mokei/gallery/votoms/1-35SCOPEDOG-2/1-35SCOPEDOG-2315.jpg |
| 22:46 | <+MittenNinja> | visually speaking |
| 22:46 | < afny> | since Soren has basically said |
| 22:46 | < afny> | "any difference between a Chub and a Scopedog is for the purpose of us not getting sued" |
| 22:46 | <@randolph> | heh |
| 22:46 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1920&bih=975&tbm=isch&prmd= imvns&tbnid=9tKRrBbV8eOBSM:&imgrefurl=http://frontmission.wikia.com/wiki/Wanzer& docid=gV5wLb1fEhpfNM&imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/frontmission/images/d/df/Zen ith_wanzer_01.jpg&w=850&h=850&ei=ODnmT_qmNoqw2wXurfHZCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=184&v py=144&dur=347&hovh=182&hovw=182&tx=91&ty=95&sig=112750975237155113132&page=1&tb nh=140&tbnw=140&start=0&ndsp=49&ved=1t:4 |
| 22:47 | < afny> | I think Wanzers are a bit bigger |
| 22:47 | < afny> | like, a lot bigger |
| 22:47 | < afny> | almost 2x as big |
| 22:47 | <+MittenNinja> | oh yeah |
| 22:47 | <+MittenNinja> | absolutely |
| 22:47 | <@randolph> | I love wanzers |
| 22:47 | <+MittenNinja> | but I'm just talking about the visual style |
| 22:47 | <~Noah> | That's not a URL, that's a wall of text |
| 22:47 | <+MittenNinja> | very similar to heavy gear and what MFZ has |
| 22:47 | <+MittenNinja> | lol |
| 22:47 | < afny> | When I look at MFZ mechs |
| 22:48 | < afny> | I see; Zentradi Battle Pod/Hi-Leg |
| 22:48 | < afny> | Protoss Dragoon/Scrambler |
| 22:48 | < afny> | Scopedog/Chub |
| 22:48 | < afny> | Conscript/Labor (Patlabor) |
| 22:49 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heh. |
| 22:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | My Superchubs clock in at 9 bricks height. |
| 22:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | That's 2 bricks above the Chub. |
| 22:50 | <@Ced23Ric> | And 295% more condensed awesome. |
| 22:50 | <+MittenNinja> | I see the chub and i think Hunters from Heavy Gear |
| 22:50 | <~Noah> | They're the Jordans of the MF0 world |
| 22:52 | <+MittenNinja> | Soren mentioned that one of the heavy influences was Votoms as well |
| 22:53 | <@randolph> | Is it mostly the chestplate? |
| 22:53 | <@randolph> | causing the problem, I mean |
| 22:54 | <@randolph> | The legs and arms fall within standard these days |
| 22:54 | <@randolph> | the head I can tweak |
| 22:54 | <+Tetrajak> | that, and you need some lego samurai hats |
| 22:54 | <@randolph> | They're Chinese >_< |
| 22:54 | <+Tetrajak> | oh yeeeeea |
| 22:54 | <+Tetrajak> | my bad |
| 22:57 | <@randolph> | I ask because if I strip out the bottom row of the chestplate, the torso is basically a MN heavy chub silhouette |
| 22:58 | <@randolph> | Maybe I should swap in the parts and show this... |
| 23:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Alright. |
| 23:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | Last screenie. |
| 23:02 | <@Ced23Ric> | http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/ijad_captain.png |
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| 23:28 | <@randolph> | anyone still here? |
| 23:29 | <@Ced23Ric> | <- |
| 23:29 | <@randolph> | ok |
| 23:29 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7428310964/ |
| 23:29 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7428310700/ |
| 23:29 | <@randolph> | I'm just boggling |
| 23:30 | <@randolph> | compare |
| 23:30 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7409788920/in/photostream/ |
| 23:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Colours need tidying up. |
| 23:30 | <@Ced23Ric> | Otherwise, great flair. |
| 23:31 | <@randolph> | yeah, bricklink is being slow heh |
| 23:31 | <@randolph> | but I'm just boggling, because prevailing opinion is that the base frame is unsuitable |
| 23:31 | <@randolph> | Help me see what they see :| |
| 23:31 | <@randolph> | I removed a 1x3 from the chestplate to get what you see in those pics |
| 23:31 | <@randolph> | which seems to be 90% MN Heavy Chubs |
| 23:32 | <@randolph> | Is it *just* the head? |
| 23:32 | <@Ced23Ric> | The colours obscure alot. |
| 23:32 | <@randolph> | You mean in the renders I had? |
| 23:33 | <@randolph> | Or in the brick version |
| 23:33 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
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| 23:34 | <@randolph> | afny: |
| 23:34 | <@Ced23Ric> | Heya Kev. |
| 23:34 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7428310964/ vs http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7409788920/in/photostream/ |
| 23:34 | < afny> | confused |
| 23:34 | <@randolph> | Ced thinks it's my colors that throw it off |
| 23:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | Yeah. |
| 23:35 | <@randolph> | Oh, so prevailing opinion is that the base frame is unsuitable |
| 23:35 | < afny> | the yellow is really weird |
| 23:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's hard to see anything. |
| 23:35 | <@randolph> | But if you look at the pics |
| 23:35 | <@randolph> | once I swap the chestplate, it's 90% heavy chub |
| 23:35 | <@randolph> | I know, I just don't have the right parts in the right colors |
| 23:35 | < afny> | Well I never said anything about the base frame |
| 23:35 | <@randolph> | oh |
| 23:35 | < afny> | my complaint was about the aesthetics |
| 23:35 | <@Ced23Ric> | You need to get the parts to be straight, too. |
| 23:36 | <@randolph> | Heh, I threw it together for a pic, but point taken |
| 23:36 | <@randolph> | @ afny: oh |
| 23:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | The head makes a breaks a frame, I'd say. |
| 23:36 | < Mantisking> | I think the Yellow, White, and Trans-Red throw it off. |
| 23:36 | <@Ced23Ric> | It's its face, after all. |
| 23:36 | <@randolph> | Mantis: I didn't shoot any pics before now because of clownsuit colors |
| 23:36 | <@randolph> | it's supposed to be: |
| 23:36 | <@randolph> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7424071772/in/photostream/ |
| 23:36 | <@randolph> | Ced: And the head is too... not SC? |
| 23:37 | <@randolph> | i.e. slap a chub head on there, most people won't blink? :p |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Well, or something else. |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Also, back module. |
| 23:37 | <@Ced23Ric> | Try and see what you can do there. |
| 23:37 | < afny> | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/100_2671.JPG |
| 23:37 | < afny> | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/100_2677.JPG |
| 23:38 | <@randolph> | Hm. |
| 23:39 | < Mantisking> | Randy -- Ah, okay. |
| 23:39 | <@randolph> | So Ced/afny: It's the thematic stuff that makes it too off? |
| 23:39 | <+Tetrajak> | reminds me of zizy's moe frames |
| 23:39 | <@randolph> | Like, if I had released it as a chub variant first? |
| 23:39 | < afny> | ZIZY HAS MOE FRAMES |
| 23:39 | < afny> | WHAT?! |
| 23:39 | < afny> | Like "moe"? |
| 23:40 | <+Tetrajak> | YOU DIDN'T KNOW!? |
| 23:40 | <+Tetrajak> | like moe |
| 23:40 | <@randolph> | And then made a variant of THAT with the terracotta head, it would've been fine? |
| 23:40 | < afny> | No I don't know NOTHIN' about zizy |
| 23:40 | < afny> | I only know his "advanced frames" |
| 23:40 | <+Tetrajak> | oh man |
| 23:40 | <+Tetrajak> | you have not seen his super cute magical school girl mecha |
| 23:40 | < Mantisking> | Okay guys, I'm off to a moonshine exhibition. |
| 23:40 | <@randolph> | later MK |
| 23:40 | <+Tetrajak> | seeya mk |
| 23:40 | <@Ced23Ric> | Bye. |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | Randy: No. |
| 23:41 | < afny> | o/ |
| 23:41 | < afny> | I'm seething with anticipation |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | The head is odd. |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | But you'll male it work. |
| 23:41 | < afny> | This literally IS a cute magical school girl zizy frame |
| 23:41 | <@Ced23Ric> | *make |
| 23:41 | < afny> | and I did not know others existed |
| 23:41 | < afny> | BEFORE NOW. |
| 23:41 | <+Tetrajak> | does anyone have zizy's brickshelf gallery link? |
| 23:41 | < Mantisking> | Later all. |
| 23:41 | <+Tetrajak> | wait, found it |
| 23:41 | < Mantisking> | Check my Spotlight on him in my blog. |
| 23:41 | <+Tetrajak> | hold on afny |
| 23:41 | <+Tetrajak> | getting link |
| 23:42 | <+Tetrajak> | browse these galleries |
| 23:42 | <+Tetrajak> | http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=120719 |
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| 23:42 | < afny> | haha what the fuck |
| 23:42 | < afny> | http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1166176 |
| 23:43 | < afny> | these are a little bit disturbing |
| 23:44 | <@Ced23Ric> | Dafuq. |
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| 23:46 | < Tetrajak> | blarg, I timed out |
| 23:46 | < Tetrajak> | afny; did you see me post the link? |
| 23:46 | < afny> | yeah |
| 23:46 | < afny> | Tetrajak: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=120719 |
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| 23:46 | < afny> | [6:42pm] afny: haha what the fuck |
| 23:46 | < afny> | [6:42pm] afny: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1166176 |
| 23:46 | < afny> | [6:43pm] afny: these are a little bit disturbing |
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| 23:47 | < Tetrajak> | I love the Grace frames of his :D |
| 23:47 | < afny> | we had similar ideas about that slope apparently |
| 23:47 | < Tetrajak> | and consider 9 bricks are an acceptable height, I may be able to legally field a company of variants of his moe frame XD |
| 23:47 | < Tetrajak> | yup |
| 23:48 | < afny> | hm |
| 23:48 | < afny> | I'm wondering about adding one to the front |
| 23:48 | < afny> | http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1166168 |
| 23:48 | < afny> | like this |
| 23:50 | < Tetrajak> | the chub is not an elegant frame, and doesn't suit being done up in a stereotypically feminine manner |
| 23:53 | < afny> | that's kind of the point |
| 23:53 | < afny> | but this isn't a chub, anyway |
| 23:55 | < afny> | the only thing it shares with a Chub are the head and the chest slope |
| 23:55 | < Tetrajak> | mhm, which is why I thought it was a chub at first glance |
| 23:56 | < afny> | if not for the slope |
| 23:57 | < afny> | and the head, I guess |
| 23:57 | < afny> | it would be a very lithe frame |
| 23:57 | < afny> | JAUNTY, even. |
| 23:57 | < Tetrajak> | link me again? |
| 23:57 | < afny> | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/100_2671.JPG |
| 23:58 | <@randolph> | Ced: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7428453074/in/photostream |
| 23:58 | <@Ced23Ric> | That, for example, looks way sleek. |
| 23:59 | <@randolph> | That's good, right? |
| 23:59 | < Tetrajak> | afny; the slope on the front makes it look quite fat |
| --- Log closed Sun Jun 24 00:00:13 2012 |