mf0 logs -> 2012 -> Fri, 22 Jun 2012< mf0.20120621.log - mf0.20120623.log >
--- Log opened Fri Jun 22 00:00:20 2012
00:20 MoF0-8121 [rsbdnvbwein@Nightstar-da7fffe9.ma.comcast.net] has joined #mf0
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00:20
< Mantisking>
Hello?
00:26
<~Noah>
Lo
00:26 Soren|away is now known as Soren
00:26
<@Soren>
I guess technically I'm here too.
00:26
<~Noah>
I'm probably going to bed early, gotta get up early for school tomorrow
00:27
<~Noah>
Soren: I got your package
00:27
<@Soren>
oh, yay.
00:27
<~Noah>
I was so excited because it was huge, but it had only 5 bricks inside
00:27
<~Noah>
I guess I'm a tool :P
00:27
<@Soren>
hah, nah.
00:28
<@Soren>
I was sure I had more stuff for you, but it was closing in on complete insanity by the time I could get that mailed off, so I went with what was there.
00:28
<~Noah>
Heh
00:32
< Mantisking>
So Soren, how long until the move?
00:32
<@Soren>
-4 days.
00:32
<@Soren>
and I'm still fellin' it.
00:32
<@Soren>
feeling*
00:32
< Mantisking>
Damn. Good luck with everything.
00:32
<@Soren>
well, it's already been a fucking disaster, so it can only get better.
00:33
< Mantisking>
Yeesh.
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00:39
< Mantisking>
How's the weather out there?
00:39
<@Soren>
hilarious. It rains in these short bursts that seem like they're almost metered.
00:39
<@Soren>
FWOOOMP then sunny again.
00:40
< Mantisking>
We're in the middle of a HHH spell.
00:50
< Mantisking>
Man, this kid is blowing up my comment section.
00:51
<@Soren>
unfortunately, I think I know the one you mean.
00:51
< Mantisking>
Thaddeus?
00:52
<@Soren>
I think so.
00:52
<@Soren>
I'm sure there will be many of them.
00:53
< Mantisking>
You mean after the rules get published?
00:53
<@Soren>
before that, even.
00:53
< Mantisking>
How so?
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<@Soren>
in my experience irritating kids tend to flock to people who answer their questions.
00:55
<@Soren>
They can't sense exasperation.
00:56
< Dukayn>
Morning all
00:56
<@Soren>
morning
00:56
< Dukayn>
Which irritating kid are we discussing?
00:56
< Dukayn>
Though I may already have a theory :P
01:01
< CaGeRit>
I'm here too,.
01:02
< Mantisking>
Thaddeus is the name of the kid we're talking about.
01:02
< Mantisking>
Hey all.
01:02
<@Soren>
hmm. Flickr seems to be spitting up, or I'd provide an example.
01:02
< Mantisking>
He's currently blowing up the comments section on my blog.
01:03
<@Soren>
ah, right.
01:03
<@Soren>
I confused him with someone else.
01:04
< CaGeRit>
Maybe disabling comments for a while might disuade him without generating a confrontation?
01:04
< Mantisking>
Nah, he's not too bad. Besides, I vet every comment.
01:04
< Dukayn>
Hey Cage, MK
01:04
< Dukayn>
I'll bbs, gotta shower.
01:04
< Mantisking>
Hey Duk.
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01:05
<@Soren>
Yeah, he's not bad, just overwhelming.
01:05
<@Soren>
Like a ferret that just discovered the magic of coffee.
01:05
< CaGeRit>
Perhaps you should direct him to the hanger and let the community help distribute the Q&A.
01:06
< CaGeRit>
You should never feed ferets coffee, they go critical mass, do you know how long it takes to clean exploded ferret off of a celing?
01:06
< Mantisking>
He doesn't have an e-mail addy.
01:06
< CaGeRit>
ceiling*
01:07
< Mantisking>
I get the feeling he has helicopter parents.
01:07
< CaGeRit>
I'm not familiar with the term.
01:08
< Mantisking>
They're called helicopter parents because they constantly hover around their kids.
01:09
< CaGeRit>
I think I'm addicted to work.
01:10
< Mantisking>
God, that's horrible.
01:11
< CaGeRit>
I think about work at work. I think about work at home. It's been two weeks since I've painted anything and I'm just looking at my models like I want to paint them, but I'm too tired/thinking about what I'm doing tomarrow.
01:11
< Mantisking>
That is something I just don't understand.
01:12
< CaGeRit>
And I cannot for the life of me spell tomorrow correctly ever.
01:13
< CaGeRit>
You don't care overly much for your job?
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01:17
< DeathZero>
Allo
01:17
< CaGeRit>
Hey
01:18
< DeathZero>
sup
01:19
< Dukayn[AFK]>
Sup DZ
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01:20
< DeathZero>
nm thought I'd get on here say hi.
01:21
< CaGeRit>
WEll then hello.
01:21
< CaGeRit>
A lot of people are afk right now.
01:21
< CaGeRit>
Usualy very busy/talkitive.
01:21
< CaGeRit>
talkative
01:21
< CaGeRit>
*
01:22
< DeathZero>
Yea, it was earlier today when I got on. Ced and Afny were discussin stuff
01:22
<@Soren>
well, we have lulls.
01:22
< DeathZero>
happens
01:22
<@McMartin>
This channel alternates pretty regularly between lulls and lulz.
01:23
<@Soren>
yep.
01:23
< DeathZero>
isn't that the way of all chats?
01:23
< Dukayn>
Pretty much yeah
01:23
<@Soren>
occasionally there's just rage.
01:23
<@Soren>
but we haven't had much of that.
01:24
<@Soren>
Ced's wielded his penis a little aggressively, that as bad as it's gotten.
01:24
< DeathZero>
I like rage, depending on why theres rage.
01:25
< DeathZero>
ahhh damnit now I've gotta buy tickets to gencon.
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<+FerrelFerret>
o/
01:26
< DeathZero>
Hey, its that guy in the from dallas.
01:27
<+FerrelFerret>
No, Ft Worth
01:27
<+FerrelFerret>
Sage is Dallas. ;)
01:27
< DeathZero>
dfw, its all the same to me.
01:27
< DeathZero>
I moved back to Indy from Irving a few years ago
01:27
< Dukayn>
Texas is Texas :P
01:27
< DeathZero>
lol.
01:27
<+FerrelFerret>
Texas is the best evar!
01:28
<@Soren>
...for building over with solar panels.
01:28
< Mantisking>
I'm back.
01:28
< DeathZero>
lol.
01:28
< Mantisking>
Had to water the lawn.
01:28
< DeathZero>
wb
01:29
<+FerrelFerret>
I don't think so. Oil Baby!
01:29
<+FerrelFerret>
and Wind power
01:29
< Mantisking>
Cage, to get back to what you were saying, it's just a job to me.
01:29
< Mantisking>
I spend my time thinking about other things than work.
01:31
< Dukayn>
Yeah I'm pretty much the same
01:31
< Dukayn>
Especially given how slow it's been this year
01:31
< DeathZero>
Welp, guess I'm leaving, just got a call, gotta go help a friend. Now that I've found this mf0 irc I'll get on it more often. Nice to meet ya all, laters.
01:31
< Mantisking>
Later.
01:32
< Dukayn>
Cya DZ
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01:32
< Mantisking>
Okay, is anyone else of the opinion we need more mods for the MFZ Flickr group?
01:33
<@Soren>
yes.
01:33
<@Soren>
poke Johan. I can't make you one, and you should be.
01:33
<@Soren>
Unless you already are.
01:33
< Mantisking>
No, I'd be doing things if I was.
01:34
< Dukayn>
So I'm not the only one who thinks there's too many way out of scale things being posted?
01:35
< Mantisking>
Yup, you are not alone.
01:35
<@Soren>
Yeah, I'm of two minds on that.
01:36
<@Soren>
on the one hand, it's clearly not on topic, but on the other, people can gank techniques from it.
01:36
< Mantisking>
True.
01:37
< Mantisking>
But do large scale techniques apply to microscale?
01:37
< Dukayn>
I think this is pushing it a bit http://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/7393062140/in/photostream
01:37
<@Soren>
mm, yeah, that's clearly out of bounds. Also ugly.
01:39
<@randolph>
hi guys
01:40
< Mantisking>
Hey.
01:42
< CaGeRit>
What do you mean large scale techniques?
01:42
<@randolph>
Scales much larger than 7p, from context
01:43
<@randolph>
Like, you're not going to get much out of a 1:1 scale Iron Man suit that is especially applicable at 7p
01:43
< Mantisking>
Yup.
01:43
< CaGeRit>
But what techniques are specific to scales larger than 7p?
01:44
< Mantisking>
I'm not sure if it's technique specific. I'd say it's more of a mind set.
01:44
<@randolph>
It's more like, okay if you want to make a scalloped curve
01:45
<@randolph>
At 7p, it involves certain techniques, because the resolution requires more implication than definition
01:45
< CaGeRit>
I sorta see where you're coming from. I just go and build stuff though, not much thinking or technique. At least not much that I'm conciously aware of.
01:45
<@Soren>
although, it really depends.
01:46
<@Soren>
The reason I moved to microscale was because it's more technically demanding.
01:47
<@Soren>
at minifigs scale, or larger, you gradually come to realize that the ability to execute any given shape eventually comes down to either the limitations of your budget, the physical limitations of your parts, or both.
01:47
<@Soren>
-s
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< CaGeRit>
I sorta want to see a mini-fig scale skirmish-combat game set in the MFO universe with frames being more of a vehicle than a "unit". I'm probably a minority though. Maybe I'll try scaling up my frames when I get the chance.
01:48
<@randolph>
Yes, sorry, that's what I meant by "implication rather than definition"
01:48
<@Soren>
While at microscale, picking the right technique, the right parts, and balancing things against one another becomes really important.
01:48
<@Soren>
Oh, I know, I'm expanding on your statement.
01:48
<@randolph>
ah kk
01:48
< Mantisking>
So it's more about skill than anything else.
01:48
<@randolph>
well lots of related skills
01:48
< CaGeRit>
I'd be carful slinging around the word skill when dealing with sculpture.
01:48
<@randolph>
aesthetics, pattern matching, demographic profiling
01:49
< CaGeRit>
Well sculpture that involves assembling pre-made pieces anyway.
01:49
<@randolph>
There's absolutely skill involved
01:49
<@Soren>
Skill plays a larger role, but it's not somehow massively better, no.
01:49
<@randolph>
vision too
01:49
<@randolph>
You can see the huge differences just in an individual's output over time
01:50
< CaGeRit>
I'd say thats more attributed to learning patterns and the different joints and how to articulate things.
01:50
< CaGeRit>
Wait no my brain it has failed me again.
01:50
<@Soren>
But I like that it's a scale where budget and time are less defining. It's easier to jump in and produce something neat.
01:50
< CaGeRit>
Just relized I mean talent, not skill.
01:50
<@Soren>
talent is a red herring. You can usually brute-force talent with practice and insight.
01:51
< CaGeRit>
True.
01:51
< CaGeRit>
I should not talk when tired, I screw things up and say things that I shouldn't.
01:51
<@Soren>
Although it does seem to be a defining factor in whether or not you're inspired by the quality of your early attempts to take it further.
01:51
<@Soren>
pff, no worries.
01:52
< CaGeRit>
Its getting late and by late I mean its almost 9 PM, I should be off to bed.
01:52
< Mantisking>
You must have to be up really early.
01:53
< CaGeRit>
Usualy yes, but not tomarrow, I'm just tired.
01:53
< CaGeRit>
Usualy I have to be up between 2 am and 4 am.
01:53
< Dukayn>
Dafuq
01:53
< CaGeRit>
but I get to sleep in all the way till 7 tomarrow.
01:53
< Mantisking>
Ouch.
01:53
< CaGeRit>
TOMORROW why can I never spell it rightly.
01:54
< Mantisking>
Time to get out the AC unit.
01:54
< CaGeRit>
I rather have a 5am-4 pm shift than a 12 pm to 11 pm shift.
01:54
< CaGeRit>
but anywho gnight.
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01:56
<@Soren>
http://mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1640&p=11783#p11783 Aaaand I'm shitting up a perfectly good pissfight with my opinions again.
01:57
< Dukayn>
Heh
01:59
< Mantisking>
Enh. Nothing too inflamitory.
02:00
<@Soren>
that's the point. People were all ready to have a good shit-fit, and I ruined it.
02:03
< Mantisking>
The AC is in and on. Wheeee!
02:08
<@randolph>
Squirt bottle :D
02:09
< Mantisking>
How many of you have seen my version of Philip Johnson's Glass House?
02:09
<@randolph>
afk dinner, back in a bit
02:17
<@Soren>
I don't think I have.
02:21
< Dukayn>
Gave the Harrier a shield for a standard Soldier loadout http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Harrier_Soldier.png
02:22
<@Soren>
I'm really liking that design.
02:22
< Dukayn>
the frame or the shield?
02:22
<@Soren>
the frame. The shield is pretty standard.
02:23
< Dukayn>
Yeah, I couldn't be arsed trying to do something fancy for the shield
02:23
< Dukayn>
Thanks, glad you like the frame :)
02:23
< Dukayn>
It's one of my faves.
02:23
<@Soren>
might suggest trimming the orange a bit, concentrating it in a few sections.
02:24
< Dukayn>
BLASPHEMY
02:24
<@Soren>
GOOD DESIGN.
02:25
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/JA-32_Harrier3.png
02:25
< Dukayn>
That's the render from MLCad
02:25
<@randolph>
do it up all orange, duky
02:25
<@randolph>
With that color-shift spice
02:25
<@Soren>
heh
02:25
<@randolph>
Showroom concept model, I'm telling you
02:25
< Dukayn>
Heh
02:26
<@randolph>
Rotating platform, 4x4 round tile on a turntable
02:26
< Dukayn>
I do have a Mindstorms motor lying about :P
02:26
<@randolph>
hee
02:26
<@Soren>
honestly, I think just a couple shifts (moving that orange 1x3 tile up to the top of the gun arms, removing the orange on the torso and thighs) would make it a lot more striking.
02:27
<@randolph>
I have some questions for advice on a build, but I'm still intermittently afk
02:27
<@randolph>
like now!
02:30
< Dukayn>
which 1x3 tile, the orange one?
02:30
< Dukayn>
as in make the top one orange?
02:31
<@Soren>
yeah
02:31
< Mantisking>
Here's the Glass House. http://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/5706082582/in/photostream
02:31
< Dukayn>
keep the side orange or make it black you reckon?
02:32
<@Soren>
oh, black, definitely.
02:32
<@Soren>
Hmm. Maybe the whole calf would look better orange.
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02:37
< Dukayn>
hmm
02:37
< Dukayn>
hey Ferret
02:37
<+FerrelFerret>
hello
02:37
< Dukayn>
do YOU explode when you drink coffee?
02:37
<+FerrelFerret>
I don't.
02:38
< Mantisking>
I'd say it depends on how much laxative his coffee has been dosed with.
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02:39
<@Soren>
actually, it was started just for you.
02:39
< Dukayn>
kind of
02:39
< Mantisking>
Don't you feel special?
02:40
< Dukayn>
"10:06 CaGeRit You should never feed ferets coffee, they go critical mass, do you know how long it takes to clean exploded ferret off of a celing?"
02:40
<+FerrelFerret>
yay... i feel special now. XD
02:41
<@Soren>
I know if you give ferrets Ritalin, they more or less forget how to be ferrets until it wears off.
02:41
< Dukayn>
Soren: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierOrangeCalf.png http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierBlackCalf.png
02:41
<+FerrelFerret>
I had two of them, they were great
02:41
< Dukayn>
with orange and black calves :P
02:41
< Dukayn>
but kept the orange disc
02:42
<@Soren>
I like the calves as a solid color.
02:42
<+FerrelFerret>
Orange all the way.
02:44
<@Soren>
the dark grey is also nice.
02:44
< Dukayn>
and wouldn't you know it, there are NO orange travis bricks on Bricklink
02:44
<@Soren>
predictably.
02:44
<@Soren>
the calves would also work in dark grey. Might have to put the orange crotch back for balance, but that's an option.
02:45
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierDBleyCalf.png
02:46
< Dukayn>
def need to do something with the crotch wedges.
02:46
<@Soren>
one orange, maybe the bottom one, would work.
02:47
<@Soren>
Man. The interplay of that torso and those arms is really great.
02:47
<@Soren>
nice proportions.
02:47
< Dukayn>
Thanks
02:47
< Dukayn>
Always good to get praise from a pro :)
02:48
< Dukayn>
so, black crotch but orange tiles
02:48
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierBlackCrotch.png
02:48
<@Soren>
hmm!
02:48
<@Soren>
I like what that does.
02:48
<@Soren>
if the top 1x1 slope were also orange, I think it would be perfect.
02:49
<@Soren>
gives it a nice blocked-out two-tone effect.
02:50
< Dukayn>
I'm not sold on the orange wedge, but...
02:50
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierOrangeCrotch.png
02:51
<@Soren>
maybe it's just me.
02:51
<@Soren>
you're right, though. It makes the waist feel too thick.
02:51
<@randolph>
Okay
02:51
<@Soren>
Maybe try it with the bottom one?
02:51
<@Soren>
leave that one black?
02:52
<@randolph>
So, I wanted to get some more articulation in the shoulders of http://www.flickr.com/photos/wangtech/7413215738/, but I can't use standard chub shoulders without making the chest thicker (which is an option I guess)
02:52
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierTwoToneCrotch.png
02:52
<@randolph>
Right now, the shoulders are 1x1 round - lampholder - 1x1 round
02:52
< Dukayn>
that kinda works you know
02:52
<@Soren>
yeah, somehow.
02:53
<@randolph>
Duk: for some reason, the 2-tone throws the overhang of the 1x2 oranges into stark contrast for me
02:53
<@randolph>
and that corner overhang bugs me
02:53
< Dukayn>
on the arms you mean?
02:53
<@Soren>
It's that v-shape it makes, with the slopes in the armpits, I think.
02:53
<@randolph>
crotch
02:53
<@randolph>
I love the rest
02:53
< Dukayn>
the bottom one is slightly further forward than the top
02:53
< Dukayn>
in the crotch
02:54
<@randolph>
That part's fine, I'm talking about the two 1x2 tiles
02:54
<@randolph>
sandwiching the crotch
02:54
< Dukayn>
ah, rigt
02:54
<@randolph>
Can those slide back a bit?
02:54
< Dukayn>
not in LDD
02:54
< Dukayn>
in the brick, yes
02:54
<@randolph>
ah k
02:54
<@randolph>
Probably fine then
02:57
< Mantisking>
So I'm working on converting the Glass House to 6P scale.
02:59
<@randolph>
Dukayn, is there a command in MLCAD to "reset orientation to grid?"
02:59
<@randolph>
rotation-wise
02:59
< Dukayn>
Good question
02:59
<@randolph>
Like, if I screw up a multi-joint rotation
02:59
<@randolph>
ok, dang
02:59
< Dukayn>
Right-click the piece, Enter pos. + rotation, Click Reset?
02:59
<@randolph>
Might end up faster to rebuild part of this thign :p
02:59
<@randolph>
huh
02:59
<@randolph>
I'll try that
02:59
< Dukayn>
Clear
02:59
< Dukayn>
not reset
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03:07
<@randolph>
Duk: v. coo
03:07
< Dukayn>
heh, and now fixed in LDD too. For the sake of what, 1 unit upward in the T-piece in the travis hole
03:08
<@randolph>
clear just puts them back at 0,0,0
03:08
<@randolph>
doesn't fix rotation
03:09
<@randolph>
oh wait haahhaha
03:09
<@randolph>
woo
03:09
<@randolph>
you have to click the matrix box
03:09
< Dukayn>
Yep
03:10
< Dukayn>
I didn't realise that :P
03:10
< Dukayn>
But it makes sense, otherwise rotation is greyed out.
03:10
< Dukayn>
You could even take note of your position values, tick the matrix box, reset, then re-enter position so it just resets rotation.
03:10
<@randolph>
unclick the position checkbox too, or it'll go back to 0,0,0
03:10
< Dukayn>
Yeah OK or that
03:10
<@randolph>
hehehe
03:10
< Dukayn>
Y'know, the EASY SOLUTION
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03:11
< Dukayn>
That's sweet
03:11
< Dukayn>
Should mention that in the tips section on the forum.
03:11
< Dukayn>
I could've used that a lot on the Aphrodite II last night
03:12
<@randolph>
heh
03:12
< Dukayn>
Would've saved about 12 rotation steps to adjust the feet one position :P
03:12
<@randolph>
... yeah
03:12
<@randolph>
speaking of... how's my WARK coming~
03:13
< Dukayn>
Yeah, sorry about that :)
03:13
< Dukayn>
I should pull my finger out
03:13
<@randolph>
heheh, no I think it's better
03:13
< Dukayn>
For some reason it's intimidating me.
03:14
<@randolph>
imagine trying the feet before figuring out the position reset
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03:14
< ShortenWeaponry>
Hello :)
03:14
<@randolph>
*twitch*
03:14
<@randolph>
hey
03:14
< Dukayn>
haha I can imagine
03:14
< Dukayn>
hey Shorty
03:15
< ShortenWeaponry>
I watched Haunting on Investigation Discavery today and there was a priest which was looking the same as Count Dooku :D
03:15
< ShortenWeaponry>
So i get the idea: "Priest Tyranus frame" :D
03:16
< Dukayn>
hahaha
03:16
< Dukayn>
nice
03:16
<@randolph>
Hey Soren, so do you have a super-secret magic joint for a 3p gap between two plates stud-out appropriate for a shoulder that has both up-down rotation and 360 rotation?
03:16
< ShortenWeaponry>
For now I have staff with cross on top and a hat
03:16
<@Soren>
um.
03:16
<@Soren>
Not offhand?
03:17
<@randolph>
heh k
03:19
< Mantisking>
Man, wish I knew if I was going to get hired as a perm so I could possibly plan going to GenCon.
03:21
< Dukayn>
Dammit, now I wanna do a less-standard shield for the soldier loadout
03:22
<@randolph>
did you see the wingarm?
03:22
< Dukayn>
Yeah I did
03:22
<@randolph>
I think it makes a pretty spiffy shield
03:22
<@randolph>
In the compressed form
03:22
< Dukayn>
did you see what I made? Pretty standard coffin shield.
03:23
<@randolph>
I did
03:23
<@randolph>
You wanted less-standard... but hm, I dunno maybe this one is too anime
03:23
< Dukayn>
share more to me
03:24
< Dukayn>
brb cuppa time
03:26
< ShortenWeaponry>
okay cigarette pause and i'm goin to bed :D
03:26
< ShortenWeaponry>
It's 04:26 am here ;/
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03:32
< Dukayn[AFK]>
Work Skype call
03:34
< ShortenWeaponry>
bye :)
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03:59
< Dukayn>
randolph: so I made a new shield
04:00
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/JA-32_Harrier5.png
04:03
<@randolph>
It's cool-looking, but a little too modern art
04:03
<@randolph>
sec
04:04
< Dukayn>
What bits don't work for you?
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04:12
< MoF0-8121>
Anyone else think that the MFZ cargo container evolution is awesome?
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04:12
< Dukayn>
Absolutely
04:12
< Mantisking>
I really should build one.
04:12
< Dukayn>
I really should BUILD something :P
04:13
< Mantisking>
Same here.
04:14
< Dukayn>
I actually have a ton of bricks etc for building terrain and whatnot, so I should work on that instead of wishing Cedric's care package of Lego bits for frames will show up
04:15
< Mantisking>
And take more pictures so I'm not on the edge of falling out of the top five in the Flickr group.
04:15
< Dukayn>
Heh
04:19
<@randolph>
Duk: it works for me
04:19
<@randolph>
It's just
04:19
<@randolph>
the stepped black tile look is more reminiscent of a modern art sculpture than a shield
04:19
<@randolph>
I think it should have more contiguous surface area
04:21
< Mantisking>
I just realized -- meaning I looked in my pictures folder -- that I still have pictures to edit.
04:29
<@randolph>
Duk: maybe go for a staggered V?
04:32
< Dukayn>
Like so? http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Shield2.png
04:36
< Mantisking>
Alright, my dram is done. Time for bed.
04:36
< Dukayn>
Night Mantis
04:36
< Mantisking>
Night all.
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04:39
<@randolph>
Yeah, or the other direction, with the pods on the outer edge by the top of the V
04:39
< Dukayn>
that might work better yeah
04:39
<@randolph>
Of course, at the risk of being my own parody, now I'm imagining those tiles replaced by 1x4 curve slopes <_<
04:39
< Dukayn>
hehe
04:40
<@randolph>
sexy curves: so sexy >_<
04:40
<@Soren>
hee.
04:41
<@Soren>
Yeah, I dunno. I think if you're going to give a design like that, without hands, any kind of 'shield' it might be better to bulk up the thighs with spaced armor.
04:44
<@Soren>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4871 couple of these, maybe.
04:46
<@randolph>
unless your hand is an oversized claw/gauntlet that closes into a shield
04:46
<@randolph>
Like, the backs of the knuckles fuse together into a shield or something
04:46
<@Soren>
heh
04:46
<@randolph>
Or it has oversize forearms
04:47
< Dukayn>
Hmm, or I could ditch the shield and have a hardmounted ECM suite.
04:47
<@randolph>
I know it isn't very much the idiom of this frame, but I've been trying to come up with a semi-transforming armadillo frame
04:48
<@randolph>
It kinda hunches down into an armored ball
04:48
<@Soren>
http://www.lineofcontact.net/ds_jaralaccs_macabre.shtml
04:48
<@randolph>
woah
04:48
<@randolph>
what is this?
04:49
<@Soren>
exactly what you were looking for.
04:49
<@randolph>
No, I mean, what setting/system?
04:50
<@randolph>
This is really cool
04:50
<@Soren>
it might be better to poke around the site rather than asking me - I've only played it once.
04:50
<@Soren>
It's the most detailed, expensive mecha simulator game ever made.
04:50
<@Soren>
the designs are gorgeous.
04:51
<@randolph>
Steel battalion
04:52
<@randolph>
nice!
04:59
<@Soren>
So, yeah. That might be one way to do that.
05:05
<@randolph>
Yeah, next project
05:06
<@randolph>
Need to polish up this terracotta army and then do the writeup first
05:06
<@randolph>
I heard about Steel Battalion way back... the 200(?) dollar controller looked *amazing* and the permadeath was intriguing
05:06
<@randolph>
(I was a pretty hardcore nethack player back in the day)
05:07
<@Soren>
it's a fascinating approach.
05:09
<@Soren>
I'm not sure it's the kind of thing that will ever be financially viable, but it's a totally unique experience.
05:09
<@randolph>
hee
05:09
<@randolph>
Well it did well enough that they had a small franchise
05:09
<@randolph>
It's hard to greenlight a sequel if the first bombs
05:10
<@Soren>
it's true.
05:10
<@Soren>
I'm thinking more in the sense that it can happen multiple times.
05:10
<@Soren>
anything can happen once, and maybe get a sequel. When it starts happening on a regular basis, I'm encouraged.
05:11
<@randolph>
aha
05:11
<@randolph>
hm
05:12
<@randolph>
You know
05:12
<@randolph>
This got namedropped recently
05:12
<@randolph>
because Hawkn is going to have a custom controller too
05:34
<@Soren>
oh, hey.
05:35
<@Soren>
Yeah, I've heard about that. It seems like a neat game.
05:40
<@randolph>
Hope the F2P doesn't make it suck
05:43
<@randolph>
Any refinement suggestions for the terracotta army? I got rid of the hip guards to give the arms a little more room to flex (and you can't really see their hips anyway.
05:43
< Dukayn>
ECM system first draft: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/ECMDraft1.png
05:45
<@Soren>
I think it might work better with a little more substance, actually.
05:45
<@Soren>
also, IRL, nothing grips those handlebars all that well.
05:46
<@randolph>
oh, that was at Duk
05:46
<@Soren>
yeah, sorry
05:46
<@randolph>
("handlebars?")
05:46
<@randolph>
heheh
05:46
< Dukayn>
Yeah I'm not really happy with it to be honest
05:46
< Dukayn>
but I thought I'd throw it out there for opinions :)
05:48
< Dukayn>
Hmm
05:48
<@Soren>
I like the basic idea. if you had two long boxes with antennae sticking out of them in roughly the same arrangement (two parallel hanging under the shoulder), that might convey 'ECM' more effectively.
05:49
<@randolph>
I'm not even sure what ECM looks like
05:49
< Dukayn>
that's the thing, there's no really set design for it.
05:49
<@randolph>
Like, it's just electronics with some sort of transmitter
05:49
<@Soren>
https://www.google.com.my/search?q=ecm+pod&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=AgH&rls=org .mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=W_n jT9TPDMyrrAfol5DvCA&ved=0CE0Q_AUoAQ&biw=978&bih=666
05:49
<@randolph>
Huh
05:50
< Dukayn>
http://www.freewebs.com/qsscaleshop/ecm.JPG
05:50
<@randolph>
So you'll have to be careful not to get it confused with a missile/bomb
05:50
< Dukayn>
I had a design that was based off an aircraft ECM pod
05:50
<@randolph>
but I guess, if your guy is carrying one on the ground, it's less likely to be confused for a bomb
05:50
< Dukayn>
lemme do it in MLCad
05:51
<@Soren>
I always figure that reality is a good starting point, but you usually have to add shit to get a readable design for irreality.
05:51
<@randolph>
You could do 2x2 dome + Nx 2x2 rounds + lampholders to reverse the stud + Nx 2x2 rounds + 2x2 dome
05:51
<@randolph>
use the lampholders as the mount
05:52
<@randolph>
Would make a decent rocket booster for a movement system too
05:53
<@Soren>
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-eca.gif chaff dispensers are also cool.
05:54
<@randolph>
neat
05:55
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/ECMPod.png << that was kinda my idea. Very simple.
05:55
< Dukayn>
originally intended to attach on the back
05:55
<@Soren>
yeah, that works. Maybe do it in white so it stands out?
05:55
< Dukayn>
can stack 2 side by side for BB if you wanted
05:56
<@Soren>
yeah
05:56
< Dukayn>
But on this frame, he has a jump pack so I'll mount it on a shoulder, see how it looks.
05:58
<@Soren>
these guys would be a great candidate for some kind of universal mount. Have a rack under one arm that carries SSRs, target designators, ECM pods - whatever.
05:59
<@Soren>
I'll put that one on the list - a design that takes simple, self-explanatory modules would be good for explaining the game quickly.
06:01
<@randolph>
dukayn, is there a way to import an entire other frame into a MLCAD editing session?
06:02
<@randolph>
I.e. open frame A, pull in the entire contents of file B?
06:02
< Dukayn>
Multipart menu, Import Model
06:02
<@randolph>
cool thanks
06:02
<@randolph>
Hm
06:03
<@randolph>
That seems to just have replaced everything I have
06:03
< Dukayn>
You should get a drop-down list called "Active Model"
06:04
<@randolph>
oh hm
06:04
<@randolph>
can I get them to interact, or... what does this let me do?
06:04
< Dukayn>
well, now in the Document part of the Parts Tree
06:04
< Dukayn>
you should see your main model, and then the one you imported
06:05
< Dukayn>
And you can drag it in like any other part
06:05
<@randolph>
ooh
06:05
<@randolph>
ok that's cool
06:05
< Dukayn>
It's how I do all my ldraws now. Multipart is a must really.
06:05
< Dukayn>
Submodel for each arm, leg, foot, weapon, etc
06:06
<@randolph>
Hm, I've been grouping them
06:06
<@randolph>
Lemme check out submodel
06:07
<@randolph>
ok uh
06:07
<@randolph>
so are you saying, for example, you have one file with each piece in it's own multipart model... and then just before you do any renders, you drag them all into one view?
06:08
<@randolph>
Or what?
06:08
< Dukayn>
OK, so you start with one model
06:08
< Dukayn>
which is the main one, usually
06:08
< Dukayn>
Say it's the head and torso, or whatever.
06:08
<@randolph>
ok
06:08
< Dukayn>
Then you create a new model in the multipart menu for say the right arm.
06:08
<@randolph>
ok
06:09
< Dukayn>
build the right arm, save the multipart file (.mpd but also works as an .ldr)
06:09
< Dukayn>
Activate your main model, then you can drag the arm model from the Document section of the Parts Tree
06:09
< Dukayn>
and move it around as one part
06:10
<@randolph>
Hm
06:10
< Dukayn>
You can activate the arm model and make changes, and it'll automatically apply them to any other models with it added as a part.
06:10
<@randolph>
ooooh
06:10
< Dukayn>
really helps for articulated bits.
06:10
<@randolph>
That's *amazing*
06:11
< Dukayn>
I usually do the main model as anything that doesn't need to be rotated to pose.
06:11
<@randolph>
Thanks dude
06:11
<@Soren>
indeed. I'm saving that advice for later
06:11
<@randolph>
Well, so this lets me do my variants a hell of a lot easier
06:11
< Dukayn>
Then every part that can rotate gets it's own model
06:11
<@randolph>
before, I was doing 1 file for each rank of terracotta soldier
06:11
<@randolph>
Now I can just put all the bits
06:11
< Dukayn>
ah
06:11
<@randolph>
in subfiles
06:12
<@randolph>
and then mix and match in the main file
06:12
< Dukayn>
Yeah
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06:25
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/ECMDraft2.png
06:25
<@randolph>
Hey Dukayn, how do you handle stuff like: upper arm + elbow tap + forearm
06:25
<@randolph>
is that one file to you, or 2 + a part
06:25
<@randolph>
*subfile
06:25
< Ced|Asleep>
Herrow.
06:25
<@randolph>
Hey ced
06:25
< Ced|Asleep>
Mhmm.
06:25
< Dukayn>
Personally, I just do it as one
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06:25
< Dukayn>
but you could easily do it as two
06:26
< Ced>
I got like 2 minutes before I'm out again.
06:26
< Ced>
So ... hey gang. :D
06:26
<@randolph>
finally got some rest, eh
06:26
< Ced>
Oh yeah.
06:26
< Ced>
Slept for an amazing 6ish hours.
06:26
< Dukayn>
If you do it as two, you can have the subfiles in another subfile called "arm" and then THAT subfile goes with the main file :P
06:26
< Dukayn>
Cadception
06:26
<@randolph>
it's TURTLE all the way down
06:27
<@randolph>
Duk: I think based on the pictures of ECM pods, you would signpost what it is better by having it lay underslung, parallel to the gruond
06:27
<@randolph>
*ground
06:27
<@randolph>
Otherwise, make the casing white
06:27
< Dukayn>
yeah, but it looks crud :P
06:27
< Dukayn>
so does white
06:27
<@randolph>
:|
06:28
< Dukayn>
horizontal you don't see the grilles, just the 1x6 plate
06:28
< Dukayn>
hmm
06:28
<@randolph>
How about a simple roundtile + roundbrick + lampholder + roundbrick +roundtile in white?
06:28
< Dukayn>
maybe if I mount it rotated sideways, so the grilles are on the outside
06:28
<@randolph>
the lampholder can be black
06:29
<@randolph>
sideways could work
06:34
< Dukayn>
here we go
06:34
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/ECMDraft3.png
06:34
<@randolph>
Pretty good
06:34
<@randolph>
How's it look on the frame?
06:34
< Ced>
Back in 540.
06:34
<@randolph>
later Ced
06:34
< Ced>
*40
06:34
< Dukayn>
k mate
06:35
< Dukayn>
might move it forward on the mount a bit more though.
06:35
<@randolph>
yeah, I think at this point it's more important what it does to the outline
06:35
<@randolph>
(which I can't tell from the closeup)
06:35
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierSoldier2.png
06:36
< Dukayn>
I think moving it forward would fit the silhouette a tad better
06:36
<@randolph>
Ok, yeah, I think that works. As for moving it forward...
06:36
<@randolph>
Well, you want there to be something about it that says "LOOK, I'm NOT a weapon"
06:36
<@randolph>
It might not be leaving it back, but I dunno
06:36
< Dukayn>
Yeah
06:37
< Dukayn>
Do you think I should rotate it across his body a bit?
06:37
<@randolph>
no
06:37
<@randolph>
I think it's better perpendicular like that
06:37
<@randolph>
but
06:37
<@randolph>
I also think it might benefit from a frozen shoulder
06:37
<@randolph>
Visual shorthand for "this arm is dedicated hardware"
06:38
<@randolph>
"I don't aim this thing, *because I don't need to*"
06:38
< Dukayn>
Hmm
06:38
< Dukayn>
Yeah
06:38
< Dukayn>
Should be able to stick a technic brick in where the cliptile + t-piece is
06:38
<@randolph>
Plus you can then take advantage of some sexy asymmetry
06:38
<@randolph>
Can't you just flip that travis with the orange slope around 180?
06:38
<@randolph>
plug it right where the clip is?
06:39
< Dukayn>
LOL or that
06:39
< Dukayn>
hmm hope it doesn't clash with the backpack
06:39
<@randolph>
I know, I know, I'm not thinking in complex enough plans ;)
06:39
<@randolph>
It shouldn't but I don't know what's obscured by that shoulder
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06:41
<@randolph>
Now, I know this is an integral part of the outline, but I look at this, and I really want to take off that 1x4 slope assemblage on the head, leave it without a head or neck, and just have that flat surface above the red eye
06:41
<@randolph>
This has nothing to do with your ECM
06:41
<@randolph>
I just think it might look cool
06:42
< Dukayn>
hehe
06:42
< Dukayn>
I'll do a quick edit in a sec for you :P
06:42
< Dukayn>
well the only clashes with the pack are greebles, so \o/
06:42
<@randolph>
woo
06:43
< Dukayn>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierSoldier3.png
06:43
< Dukayn>
pulls it in a bit too so it's not just hanging out there in the air.
06:43
<@randolph>
Cool
06:43
<@randolph>
It definitely looks like it's dedicated hardware now
06:44
<@Soren>
mm. And if you want the arm(s) closer in, you could replace those t-joints with a tap where the headlight brick is now.
06:47
< Dukayn>
They need to be a bit further out for rotating, when they have guns on em
06:47
< Dukayn>
otherwise they hit the legs
06:47
<@Soren>
true.
06:47
< Dukayn>
but for the static pod, not necessary
06:47
<@randolph>
articulation: fun to play with, useless in play
06:48
<@randolph>
But "fun to play with" needs to be underlined like six times and has five exclamation points
06:48
< Dukayn>
randolph: no head slope, for you - http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierNoHeadSlope.png
06:48
<@randolph>
mmmmmm
06:48
<@randolph>
so sexy
06:48
<@randolph>
Don't let Ced see, I'm cheating on my slopes
06:50
<@Soren>
hunh! that works better than I would have expected!
06:51
<@randolph>
I saw that sexy headless profile hiding under there
06:51
< Dukayn>
it's not BAD
06:51
< Dukayn>
but I like my slope
06:51
<@randolph>
Don't get me wrong! Some of my best friends are 1x4 curved slopes.
06:53
<@Soren>
haha
06:55
< Dukayn>
lol
06:56
< Dukayn>
closet slopeist
06:56
< Dukayn>
that's randy
06:58
<@randolph>
But... I mean, they're so smooth and *exotic*
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07:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Backsies.
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07:20
<@randolph>
hey Ced
07:23
<@Ced23Ric>
"Well i have my adaptation of this model coming up soon, so look out."
07:23
<@Ced23Ric>
...
07:23
<+Dukayn>
wb Ceddy
07:24 * Ced23Ric sits down to brace himself.
07:24
<+Dukayn>
pT?
07:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah. :D
07:24
<+Dukayn>
cannot wait
07:25
<@randolph>
He's gonna show more to u
07:25
<+Dukayn>
Ced, I made a soldier loadout for the Harrier.
07:26
<@randolph>
Maybe use some Tall Legs
07:26
<+Dukayn>
I bet he uses his tall legs. WITH BENDABLE KNEES
07:26
<+Dukayn>
Ced23Ric: http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/HarrierSoldier3.png << The ECM pod is back :)
07:27
<@Ced23Ric>
BENDABLE KNEES.
07:27
<@Ced23Ric>
And: Fuck yeah, that Harrier looks great.
07:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Apparently, we're all hitting our Mojo lately.
07:27
<+Dukayn>
No, I'm hitting everyone else's mojo
07:28
<+Dukayn>
I keep stealing randy and Soren's mojo
07:28
<@randolph>
Ohhh, right in the mojo
07:28 * randolph winces
07:29
<+Dukayn>
Not that Soren can lose mojo. His mojo is permanently at 100% capacity.
07:29
<@Soren>
hah
07:29
<@randolph>
I think it's that his mojo exceeds our meters
07:29
<@Soren>
I have my shitty moments. I'm just pretty good at filtering.
07:29
<@randolph>
He's got to have lost some from that trip
07:29
<@Soren>
I'm slowly getting back up to the point where I feel human again.
07:30
<@Soren>
Jesus that shit took a lot out of me.
07:32
<+Dukayn>
I was stuffed after moving in the same city
07:32
<+Dukayn>
I can't imagine overseas.
07:32 * Ced23Ric is very Zen.
07:33
<@Ced23Ric>
It's shit like pT that gets me.
07:34
<@Soren>
heh
07:35
<+Dukayn>
SO LOOK OUT
07:35
<@Soren>
Duk: well, and i was dehydrated and I'd skipped a lot of sleep and meals the weeks before, which definitely contributed to it.
07:35
<+Dukayn>
Yeah, that sounds like a good way to prep for moving half way around the globe :P
07:39
<+Dukayn>
Ced23Ric: You forgot your d8G for those HtH frames on the forum
07:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Nope.
07:39
<@Ced23Ric>
I slimmed them down even more.
07:39
<+Dukayn>
o_O
07:40
<+Dukayn>
How... it's not even a system!
07:40
<+Dukayn>
You just... get it.
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh.
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
not d8Rh
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
I AM DUMB.
07:40
<+Dukayn>
DERP MODE ENGAGED
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
hoe did u do this
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
HOE
07:41
<+Dukayn>
http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/hoe-1272.jpg
07:46
<+Dukayn>
^hoe
07:49
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.lolroflmao.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/get-away-from-me-hoe.jpg
07:49
<@Ced23Ric>
^Get away from me.
07:49
<+Dukayn>
hahaha
07:50
<@Ced23Ric>
You know what makes low system count/high 'frame count so good?
07:51
<@Ced23Ric>
High AV/Ini with high amount of whites.
07:52
<@randolph>
I wonder how badly USF needs those ablative greens
07:52
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, they help the kiting.
07:52
<@randolph>
they do
07:53
<+Dukayn>
and it's 1 more hit they can take
07:53
<@Ced23Ric>
And argueably, d6w d6w + d6G is the highest EV bump you will get. :D
08:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Unread postby Doldrum >> 22 Jun 2012, 06:21
08:00
<@Ced23Ric>
I just got complimented by a dev! That never happens, I'm honored! ^_^
08:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
08:00
<@Ced23Ric>
SOREN COMPLIMENT ME.
08:04
<@Soren>
hahaha
08:05
<@Soren>
You're the nicest battering-ram personality I know.
08:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Sounds about right.
08:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Today, I fail like I mean it
08:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Just tried to boot via network whilse being attach to the production network instead of the install network.
08:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Somehow, network boot didn't work.
08:15
<@Ced23Ric>
So I fiddled with the cables and what not.
08:15
<@Ced23Ric>
All the while not being alarmed by the subtle difference between grey and BRIGH YELLOW cables.
08:15
<@Ced23Ric>
They are pretty much the same, right?
08:16
<@Soren>
yeah, there's no real difference :)
08:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Cool, cool.
08:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Ugh.
08:17
<@Ced23Ric>
If my morning is any indication if my day, I wanna go home.
08:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Should probably just get a coffee and have a smoke.
08:18
<@randolph>
But at least it's friday
08:18
<@Ced23Ric>
AND TOMORROW.
08:18
<@Ced23Ric>
125 MINUTES.
08:18
<@Ced23Ric>
OF STRAIGHT MFZ.
08:18
<@Ced23Ric>
YAY.
08:19
<@randolph>
That's, what, 3 rounds?~
08:19
<@Ced23Ric>
We're debating on filming it in 80fps.
08:20
<@Soren>
doooo eeeet
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy: Nah, it's a whole game for Danni and I.
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Soren: SUPERINTENSE DICE ROLLS IN SLOW MOTION.
08:22
<@randolph>
Do intercuts with a drop of water striking the surface of a still pond.
08:22
<@randolph>
And then a closeup of an eye dilating
08:22
<@randolph>
Say it's an EVA re-enactment
08:22
<@Soren>
hah.
08:23
<@Ced23Ric>
BBIAB.
08:27
<@Soren>
I wonder if you could get a more telegenic tabletop experience using magnets.
08:27
<@Soren>
Probably not, unless there were a certain amount of rehersal, and you'd end up with the same level of clumsiness, I suspect.
08:27
<@Soren>
rehearsal*
08:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Magnets..?
08:44
<+Dukayn>
Guessing he means like, under the table with another magnet in a base of the frame, for moving them around.
08:44
<+Dukayn>
But I could be wrong
08:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh wow.
08:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
08:46
<@Ced23Ric>
I dunno if the merit is there.
08:47
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, MFZ is about people, right?
08:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Having fun with your buddies.
08:49
<+Dukayn>
I don't see how a magnet to help move them around would hinder the "fun with buddies" aspect?
08:50
<@Ced23Ric>
You don't see the people goofing around. :D
08:51
<@randolph>
I think he may also mean in the frames so they don't fall over
08:51
<@randolph>
or something
08:52
<@Ced23Ric>
And, furthermore, for any ... video taping aspect of an actual game, having people actually play like you and I would is probably more helpful.
08:52
<@Ced23Ric>
The hands moving the 'frames are indicators and designators, too.
08:53
<@Ced23Ric>
It is to be said, though, that it would deffo enhance a purely aesthetic representation, true.
08:53
<+Dukayn>
Well he also said it likely wouldn't work. In the same sentence...
08:54
<@Ced23Ric>
I read that, yes.
08:54
<@Ced23Ric>
Soren wonders if it would look better, and I wonder whether it's worth it.
08:54
<@Ced23Ric>
Where's the conflict? :D
08:56
<+Dukayn>
There was a conflict?
08:56
<@Soren>
Ced likes conflict.
08:56
<+Dukayn>
He's German
08:57
<@Soren>
The problem is that it's hard to see what you're moving. You'd probably end up having to base everything, and moving up terrain features gets problematic.
08:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
08:59
<@Soren>
It could work for a complete newbie game, though.
08:59
<@Soren>
Where you aren't using any weird terrain and relatively few frames.
09:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Should probably still base the 'frames.
09:00
<@randolph>
telekinesis
09:00
<@randolph>
It's generally the right answer
09:00
<@Soren>
yeah
09:00
<@Soren>
heh
09:00
<@Soren>
well, the best answer for filming is wires.
09:01
<@Soren>
But that gets into the realm of really excessive mechanical complexity.
09:01
<@randolph>
I think it'll help a lot just to play on a hard surface
09:01
<+Dukayn>
WW2-esque sticks with little shovel thingies on them?
09:02
<+Dukayn>
y'know, those things they used during the Battle of Britain to move markers around on the map.
09:04
<@Soren>
yeah
09:06
<@randolph>
Wait, that wasn't sympathetic magic?
09:06
<+Dukayn>
pretty sure it was a stick
09:07
<@randolph>
XD
09:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Pretty sure they stole those from fireplaces.
09:08
<@randolph>
"Fire at this place."
09:08
<@randolph>
*poke*
09:08
<+Dukayn>
I don't think they were fire pokers
09:09
<+Dukayn>
but I haven't really investigated it thorougly
09:09
<+Dukayn>
+h
09:12
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy got it.
09:19
<@randolph>
Hey Dukayn, I'm looking for the dat file for 60752 (scimitar with notched blade)
09:19
<@randolph>
happen to have that?
09:19
<+Dukayn>
If it's not in MLCad already, no
09:19
<@Ced23Ric>
... herp-a-derp.
09:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Just got a booking email.
09:19
<@Ced23Ric>
People are canceling the projector for a meeting that is already running.
09:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Said projector is mounted to the ceiling.
09:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Dafuq?
09:20
<+Dukayn>
LOL
09:20
<+Dukayn>
randolph: http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?s=60752
09:24
<@randolph>
Aha
09:25
<@randolph>
Wait, not certified?
09:25
<@randolph>
Is that a problem?
09:25
<+Dukayn>
Nah
09:25
<+Dukayn>
Just means it's not an official part
09:25
<@randolph>
ah ok
09:25
<@randolph>
thanks
09:25
<+Dukayn>
Reviewer: Philo Certification: hold Comments: Two triangles are missing near edge
09:26
<+Dukayn>
that's why
09:26
<+Dukayn>
and that's only in the subfile
09:26
<+Dukayn>
which you'll also need to grab
09:26
<+Dukayn>
and put in the 's' folder in Parts
09:26
<@randolph>
got it, thanks
09:34
<@Ced23Ric>
M'alright.
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09:58
< afny>
mornin
10:03
<@Soren>
evenin'.
10:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Lunchin'.
10:04
<@Ced23Ric>
WE ARE SO DIVERSE.
10:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey Kevin.
10:05
<@Soren>
om nom nom!
10:05
< afny>
so very hungry
10:05
<@Ced23Ric>
My lunch: coffee /w milk and sugar, granola bar /w yogurt+berries stuff.
10:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Lunch of champions.
10:06
< afny>
better lunch than just
10:06
< afny>
drinking coffee creamer and sugar
10:06
<@Ced23Ric>
True.
10:06
<@Ced23Ric>
BUT.
10:07
<@Ced23Ric>
HEre's my new pT of the day.
10:07
<@Ced23Ric>
"Well i have my adaptation of this model coming up soon, so look out."
10:07
<@Ced23Ric>
SO LOOK OUT.
10:07
<+Dukayn>
heh
10:09
< afny>
I...can't wait.
10:09
< afny>
...
10:09
<@Ced23Ric>
I love this building pool of memes.
10:10
<@Ced23Ric>
"share more to me", "how did u do this" and "so look out" have a bright future.
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10:10
<+Dukayn>
they do indeed
10:10
<@Ced23Ric>
It's my least favourite fish!
10:10
<+Dukayn>
hey Cb
10:11 * Ced23Ric hates carbon fibre coated fish.
10:11
<@Ced23Ric>
It's a bitch to cook.
10:11
< Carbonbass>
It really is
10:11
<@Ced23Ric>
Ugh, is it EVER.
10:11
<+Dukayn>
goes down easy though
10:12
<@Ced23Ric>
Dukayn: You could say it's a ....
10:12
<@Ced23Ric>
!shades
10:12
<@Ced23Ric>
... ultra-light meal.
10:12
<+Dukayn>
no bot
10:12 * Ced23Ric cries.
10:12
<@Ced23Ric>
Everytime I got a somewhat okay one.
10:13
< afny>
ahh, don't worry
10:13
< afny>
it wasn't any good at all.
10:13
<@Ced23Ric>
It fucking was.
10:13
< afny>
hey, how did your hipster go
10:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Canceled on me, felt sick.
10:14
< afny>
bah
10:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
10:14
<@Ced23Ric>
So we did our beer run.
10:14
<@Ced23Ric>
And made pork filets /w chunky onions and croquettes.
10:15
<@Ced23Ric>
And 3 pepper sauce /w garlic and freshly crushed black pepper corns.
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10:18
<@Soren>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B000KKNQBK/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_helpful?ie=U TF8&showViewpoints=0 centuries from now, I think the English language will be best known for the number of euphemisms it developed for 'penis and/or testicles'.
10:19
<@Ced23Ric>
The bollocks I knew and loved are gone now. In their place is a maroon coloured bag of agony which sends stabs of pain up my body every time it grazes against my thigh or an article of clothing.
10:20 * Ced23Ric salutes.
10:20
<+Dukayn>
o_O
10:21
<@Ced23Ric>
This gets better and better.
10:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Imagine sticking a rusty razor blade into your favourite eye, before tying your hands behind your back. Then imagine that you use the entrenched razor blade to slice open a raw onion. All the while being butt naked. This product is slightly more painful than that.
10:21
<@Ced23Ric>
My tinkywinkleton hasn't even so much as perked up, so if my review seems a bit harsh, it's only because I wanted children.
10:22
<@Ced23Ric>
I am trying so hard not to burst out laughing.
10:24 afny is now known as afny|away
10:24
< afny|away>
gonna shower and eat
10:24
< afny|away>
AT THE SAME TIME.
10:25
<@Ced23Ric>
AWESOME.
10:26
<+Dukayn>
I've had a beer in the shower.
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10:31
<+Dukayn>
sup TJ
10:31
<+Tetrajak>
heya
10:31
<+Tetrajak>
just finished my first take on afny's aphrodite frame
10:31
<+Tetrajak>
well, the design, anyway
10:31
<+Tetrajak>
not happy with it, however
10:32
<+Dukayn>
got piccies?
10:32
<+Tetrajak>
not yet
10:32
<+Tetrajak>
I'll slap a colour scheme on the LDD and upload
10:42
<+Tetrajak>
it's kinda tall, as in, over 9p
10:42
<+Tetrajak>
sorry, 9 bricks
10:42
<+Tetrajak>
man, I'm tired
10:42
<+Tetrajak>
ok, pic is here; http://s1.bild.me/bilder/160512/8936223Dyson_-_Venus_Orbital_Frame.jpg
10:43
<+Tetrajak>
I want to set the shoulders further apart from the body, and probably use a different design to the one that I've used
10:43
<+Tetrajak>
so that the silhouette looks better
10:43
<+Tetrajak>
currently it's too much of a cone for my liking
10:44
<+Tetrajak>
Admittedly, I just reused the shoulders from my Enforcer frame
10:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya TJ.
10:44
<+Tetrajak>
It's meant to be used in space, and have the capability to drop from orbit and take part in land based combat
10:44
<+Tetrajak>
heya Ced
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
That looks slick, TJ.
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
BUT.
10:45
<+Tetrajak>
thanks :D
10:45
<+Tetrajak>
lol
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Those binocs are fiddly as all fuck.
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
May I suggest a cheat?
10:45
<+Tetrajak>
sure
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
a) bite the round.
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
b) epoxy
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Ideally, modelling epoxy.
10:45
<+Tetrajak>
I do not think I understand
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Alright.
10:46
<+Tetrajak>
Perhaps you have more trouble with them than me
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
If you have a stud that fits loosely, you can bite it.
10:46
<+Tetrajak>
I don't find them difficult to work with
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Makes it a tad wider.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
And produces a lip.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
So it clips on better.
10:46
<+Tetrajak>
Ah, I see what you're suggesting
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, they HOLD.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
But they fall off easily.
10:46
<+Dukayn>
Looks nice TJ
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
It's not a very tense connection.
10:47
<+Tetrajak>
thanks Dukayn
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
As for epoxy: You just take the smallest bit ever.
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
I use green stuff from my 40k customizing.
10:47
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: eh, they're mostly there for decoration to look like mini boosters
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
It just provides a tad bit more stability.
10:47 afny|away is now known as afny
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya Kev.
10:47
< afny>
Sadly I had to wait until after the shower for my waffles
10:47
< afny>
else they would be soggy.
10:48
<+Tetrajak>
Heya afny
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh, TJ?
10:48
<+Tetrajak>
yea?
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
May I suggest you build in normal mode?
10:48
<+Tetrajak>
never!
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Extended toys with your emotions.
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
It gives you colors that don't exist.
10:48
<+Tetrajak>
I know
10:49
<+Tetrajak>
but that colour scheme was slapped on in 10 minutes for the sake of having colour on it
10:49
<+Tetrajak>
I build in dark grey
10:49
< afny>
it looks good
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Well. Still.
10:49
<+Tetrajak>
thanks afny :D
10:49
< afny>
it reminds me of a mass production Eva
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
It would look KILLER in white/black /w light blue.
10:49
<+Tetrajak>
afny: ah, you're right :D
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Light blue is spiffy as balls colour.
10:49
< afny>
I wish I had some light blue to use as accents in the Aphrodite II
10:49
<+Tetrajak>
hehe, yes ced, it is
10:49
< afny>
the original frame had light blue, but it was one of those weird car parts
10:49
<+Tetrajak>
afny: I am in love with the Aphrodite II
10:49
< afny>
that I couldn't transfer
10:50
< afny>
glad you like it
10:50
< afny>
I will warn you though, the legs can be annoying
10:50
<+Tetrajak>
no kidding
10:50
< afny>
that's why I haven't used that core/leg again in my reduxes
10:50
< afny>
it looks very nice, but it's large enough to be fiddly
10:50
<+Tetrajak>
In the Venus, which I linked to, I tried to reduce the body size of the Aphrodite, but I think I failed at said attempt
10:51
<+Tetrajak>
Yea, I wasn't going to try and reused the Aphrodite's legs. They looked like they'd be annoying to fiddle with
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
TJ: SHARE MORE TO ME.
10:51
<+Tetrajak>
that's why I came up with the variation
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
As in, email me that LXF.
10:51
< afny>
how do your legs attach?
10:51
<+Tetrajak>
haha
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
I think I will do you and Kev some honors and build an entire company.
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
me@ced23ric.de
10:51
<+Tetrajak>
afny: with cheeky tricks
10:52
<+Tetrajak>
Ced, I would be flattered
10:52
< afny>
share more to me
10:52
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev : 1x2 slope with curve thing, 1x1 2-stud.
10:52
<@Ced23Ric>
There's a lampholder in there, too.
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
And a 1x2 tile.
10:53
< afny>
uhh I don't think we're talking about the same part
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
The legs seem to be mounted on a wrench.
10:53
< afny>
I mean, what is the breakpoint between the torso and the legs
10:53
< afny>
I see how the legs/thigh works
10:53
< afny>
does it still just attach at a 1x1 round?
10:53
<+Tetrajak>
nope
10:53
< afny>
that's what I'm asking
10:53
< afny>
how does it attach tot he torso
10:54
< afny>
to the*
10:54
<+Tetrajak>
hmm
10:54
<+Tetrajak>
I'm not sure we're talking about the same connection
10:54
< afny>
okay
10:54
< afny>
if you were to take the leg
10:54
< afny>
all the way off
10:54
<+Tetrajak>
so, we have the upper torso, and the hips, and the legs
10:54
< afny>
uh.
10:54
< afny>
when I say leg, I mean the whole leg
10:54
< afny>
so including the hip cylinders
10:54
<+Tetrajak>
sure
10:55
< afny>
alright
10:55
< afny>
so those legs include the bar plates
10:55
< afny>
that have tile clips/trans oranges on them, yes?
10:55
< afny>
those are the origin of the legs?
10:55
<+Tetrajak>
yes
10:55
< afny>
and the third, center tile clip
10:55
< afny>
has a 1x1 round in it
10:55
< afny>
that connects to the central ring plate?
10:55
<+Tetrajak>
nope
10:56
<+Tetrajak>
no 1x1 round
10:56
< afny>
so what does that middle grey tile clip attach to
10:57
<+Tetrajak>
a 2-stud version of a travis
10:57
<+Tetrajak>
although I do not know the technical term for it
10:57
< afny>
it's a 3 stud brick
10:57
< afny>
travis isn't a technical term :P
10:57
<+Tetrajak>
Ced23Ric: lxf file sent
10:57
< afny>
and okay, yeah, I get it now
10:57
<+Tetrajak>
didn't say I knew the technical term for a travis brick either :P
10:57
< afny>
the way the chest works
10:58
< afny>
the reason I said the legs are fiddly isn't because of the legs
10:58
< afny>
it's just because they're heavy
10:58
< afny>
and attaching via one stud without some sort of insertion
10:58
< afny>
makes for a weak point
10:59
<+Tetrajak>
I had an attachment to the body with a claw on a previous draft of the legs, but they came too close to the arms
10:59
<+Tetrajak>
although... you could still do a claw connection because of the 3-stud brick
10:59
< afny>
mine doesn't use a brick, so there's no real way to insert
11:00
< afny>
although the legs are much better now that I reduced the weight
11:01
<@Ced23Ric>
I like the feet.
11:01
< afny>
I do think you're going to have trouble with that ankle joint
11:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Lemme inspect it!
11:01
< afny>
I like the way the feet look, but I've never found claw>tap to be a strong connection
11:01 * Ced23Ric puts on his NDT glasses.
11:02
<@Ced23Ric>
You know, TJ is now my favourite person.
11:02
< afny>
it didn't even hold up the Wyrk Wyze hands on my red chub
11:02
<@Ced23Ric>
For ONE simple reason.
11:02
<@Ced23Ric>
He follows proper email protocol.
11:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Subject: Full name of project, LXF extension.
11:02
<+Tetrajak>
hehe, you're welcome Ced XD
11:03
<+Tetrajak>
afny; yea, I know there are some instabilities, but it's about the most versatile ankle connection there is
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Body: Greeting, reference to reason for email, content of email. Annotation for future exchange. Cheers, Name.
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
I love you.
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
I truly do.
11:03
<+Tetrajak>
hehehe, I love you too Ced
11:03
<+Tetrajak>
XD
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
I hate emails like I get from the hipster.
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
His emails are like this:
11:03
< afny>
what about putting a tile clip over the halfpin
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Subject: uhuhijujihihju
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Body: <nothing>
11:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Attachment: 16MB of fucked up PSD files
11:03
<+Tetrajak>
"the hipster"?
11:03
<+Dukayn>
LOL
11:04
<@Ced23Ric>
A client of mine.
11:04
<+Tetrajak>
lololol
11:04
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.eisenkern.net/webworks/cultage/20120618_cultage_shop.png
11:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Working on a webshop/store thingey.
11:04
<+Dukayn>
If I'm just sending files I at least put in the subject what they are, and in the body say "See attached'"
11:04
<+Tetrajak>
afny: any particular reason?
11:04
< afny>
I just really don't think it'll stand up with those feet
11:05
< afny>
although two tile clips on a tap means you lose rotation in one direction, so that's not a good solution either
11:05
<+Tetrajak>
a tile w/ clip wouldn't improve the joint over that of a claw, because of the half-clip
11:05
< afny>
a tile clip is might tighter
11:05
< afny>
but it wouldn't be able to rotate
11:05
<+Tetrajak>
sorry, half-peg*
11:06
< afny>
why, because the half-pin would rotate?
11:06
< afny>
movement on that plane isn't what you're worried about
11:06
<+Tetrajak>
yea, that's already rather loose
11:06
< afny>
it's movement on the vertical
11:06
<+Tetrajak>
actually, I have a plan
11:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Okay.
11:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Time to investigate connections.
11:08
<+Tetrajak>
afny: you're right, and I have an idea for an alternative that still allows movement
11:08
<+Tetrajak>
but it can't be demonstrated in LDD XD
11:09
<+Tetrajak>
is the tile w/ clip is moved one stud "forward" (relative to the mech), and the tap turned 180 degrees, and the claw replaced with a tile w/ clip, the connection becomes more stable
11:09
<+Tetrajak>
if*
11:10
< afny>
yeah
11:10
< afny>
that'll work
11:10
<+Dukayn>
use MLCad
11:10
<+Tetrajak>
the tile's w/ clip that attach the very top of the legs to the body can be replaced with claws to get more stability out of that connection, but the cut in they might spin if the tension is loose
11:10
<+Tetrajak>
Dukayn: I can't stand it
11:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
11:10
<+Tetrajak>
I accept the tradeoff's I have to make by using LDD
11:10
<+Dukayn>
but IT does what YOU want
11:11
<+Dukayn>
not the other way around :P
11:11
<@Ced23Ric>
TJ, the leg center mount could use some stabilisation.
11:11
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: might want to be more specific about that
11:11
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, lemme try my hands.
11:12
<@Ced23Ric>
Those 2x2 tiles don't have the best grip.
11:12
<+Tetrajak>
Dukayn: I'm fine with LDD not doing a few of the things that are possible, if a bit abusive of the bricks
11:12
<@Ced23Ric>
And those 1x1 rounds are all that are taking the weight.
11:12
<+Tetrajak>
pretty much
11:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm, I think I can reinforce that.
11:13
< afny>
are you talking about the thigh cylinders?
11:13
<+Dukayn>
I accept LDD because you can throw things together in it.
11:13
<+Tetrajak>
however, moving that assembly forwards by one stud, in order to improve the connection, makes the legs more awkward in shape, and means they have to be pointed further vertically
11:13
<+Dukayn>
but I prefer MLCad for proper building
11:13
< afny>
I actually think that's surprisingly stable, and mine don't even have rounds in them because I use it as a point of articulation
11:13
<+Tetrajak>
afny: nah, we're talking about the connection with the "cylinders" on the legs
11:14
<+Tetrajak>
afny: I'm also using it as a point of articulation, but I can put them there because the articulation is in the wrench
11:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Ugh, it's off by half a plate.
11:15
<@Ced23Ric>
This is cursed. CURSED.
11:15
<+Tetrajak>
XD
11:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh wait.
11:15
<@Ced23Ric>
*rubs chin*
11:15
<@Ced23Ric>
You could use a-plates.
11:15
<+Tetrajak>
like I said, I'm going to change the shoulder and move it further away from the body, in order to improve the silhouette of the overall frame
11:16
<@Ced23Ric>
... but then, the claws fails.
11:16
<+Tetrajak>
this will give more room for better hip joints
11:16
<+Tetrajak>
Ced23Ric: have you been following our discussion of claws and tiles w/ clips?
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Not that I can recall.
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
I am at work, out and about.
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
So, bring me up to speed, plox. :D
11:17
< afny>
it was like one minute ago
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
When I was installing four systems, yeah.
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh, up there.
11:17
<+Tetrajak>
ok, so replaced the hip joint tiles w/ clips with claws plugged into the 3-stud bricks
11:17
< afny>
I'm just sayin it's up there
11:17
< afny>
not that you saw it
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
If CLAWS.
11:17
<+Tetrajak>
and replace the claws on the ankle joints with tiles w/ clips
11:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Be a smart camper.
11:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Add 1x1 round /w open stud.
11:18
<+Tetrajak>
yes
11:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Gives you more meat and more stability and serves as a spacer.
11:18
<+Tetrajak>
yup
11:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
11:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Counterargument.
11:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Clip tiles usually grip harder.
11:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Can be good, can be bad.
11:21
<@Ced23Ric>
For heavy arms like on the MINX, I replaced all claws with clip tiles.
11:21
<@Ced23Ric>
The claws would not be able to hold the arms up.
11:21
< afny>
claws suck at anything but holding tiny chub arms
11:22 Dukayn is now known as Dukayn[BF3]
11:22
<+Tetrajak>
I haven't had such trouble with my claws
11:22
<+Tetrajak>
the arms on the Venus really aren't that heavy
11:23
<+Tetrajak>
the black colour is what makes them look heavy
11:23
< afny>
wait what
11:23
< afny>
I didn't know we were talking about arms
11:24
< afny>
I'm not really following this discussion apparently
11:24
< afny>
I just wanted to rag on claws
11:25
<+Tetrajak>
lololol
11:25
<+Tetrajak>
I may have jumped to conclusions
11:25
<+Tetrajak>
if we are still talking about the hip joint;
11:25
<+Tetrajak>
I'm not that worried
11:25
<+Tetrajak>
the entire thing is rather large and brick-intensive
11:26
< afny>
well imma get to building
11:26
< afny>
need to figure out how many clip plates I have left
11:26
< afny>
and what colors
11:26
<+Tetrajak>
I have plans to reduce it's size to further approximate the size of a chub
11:26
<+Tetrajak>
happy building, afny :D
11:26
< afny>
you should look at some other zizy cores then
11:27
< afny>
some of his stuff has a much shorter profile
11:27
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: also, 1x1 round with hole for spacers on the claws of the shoulder connection
11:27
< afny>
here, hm
11:27
< afny>
let me link
11:27
<+Tetrajak>
afny; oh, believe me, I've poured over his stuff
11:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, that works there, too.
11:28
< afny>
so like, this one is obviously the inspiration for the aphro: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=907877
11:28
<+Tetrajak>
I am liking the profile given to the frame with the spacing we have worked out
11:28
< afny>
but it's pretty tall
11:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey, TJ, maybe make the shoulders more stable and bigger.
11:28
<@Ced23Ric>
2 1x2 plates will do wonders.
11:28
< afny>
this one, for instance, is shorter: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=907843
11:28
< afny>
but I think you could still get the same profile
11:28
< afny>
although then again I think a lot of the heigh is in the legs
11:29
< afny>
lemme see how tall mine actually is
11:29
<+Tetrajak>
afny: I have a squad of 8 zizy frames (if you're familiar with the Pressure 2b)
11:29
<+Tetrajak>
all built
11:29
<+Tetrajak>
and waiting for photography
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11:29
< afny>
I love that one
11:29
<+Tetrajak>
except that they need weapons, and I am fiddling with the legs, and waiting on a parts order to continue said fiddling
11:30
<+Tetrajak>
yes, so do I :D
11:30
<+Tetrajak>
that's why I bought the parts to build a full squad of them
11:30
<+Tetrajak>
and then, once I finish designing the Venus, I'm going to rip the zizy frames apart and use their parts to build a squad of the finished venus XD
11:30
<+Tetrajak>
since they share so many parts
11:30
< afny>
so my aphro is 11 bricks tall with cannon resting, or 10 bricks tall aiming
11:31
< afny>
a chub is like 7
11:32
<+Tetrajak>
the Venus stands 9 bricks tall
11:32
<+Tetrajak>
which is about the height of a super-chub
11:32
<+Tetrajak>
so not too bad
11:32
< afny>
I could probably get mine down to 9 by changing the pose
11:32
<+Tetrajak>
and Soren has stated that he'll be building frames up to 12 bricks tall for MFZ
11:32
< afny>
yeah, I don't think this is too tall by any means
11:33
<+Tetrajak>
mhm
11:34
<+Tetrajak>
well, we'll see how far I can reduce height on the second draft, sometime this weekend
11:34
<+Tetrajak>
at the moment, it's 10:30pm after a long and productive day at work, and I am all kinds of tired
11:34
<+Tetrajak>
although happy to chat and discuss lego
11:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Superchubs are like 9 bricks.
11:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Measured them last night.
11:36
<+Tetrajak>
yup
11:36
<+Tetrajak>
same height as the Venus
11:36
<@Ced23Ric>
I think 10's a good ceiling for regular 'frames.
11:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, with shoulder mounts and such.
11:36
<+Tetrajak>
thinking about height though, I'm not sure if I can reduce the height further without the shoulders interfering with the hips
11:36
<+Tetrajak>
at least, with gun arms
11:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Yes, you have a tight core.
11:36
<+Tetrajak>
with manipulator arms I could probably do it
11:37 Ced|Bed [Ced@Nightstar-3e5503a9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mf0
11:37
< Ced|Bed>
Not if you wanna pose them
11:37
< Ced|Bed>
LEgs will interfere.
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11:37 mode/#mf0 [+o Ceddobear] by ChanServ
11:37
<@Ceddobear>
Not if you wanna pose them
11:37
<@Ceddobear>
Legs will interfere.
11:38
< afny>
hm, I replaced the 1x4 old light grey tiles on the Apollo
11:38
< afny>
with little articulated yellow cannisters
11:38
< afny>
it looks much better now
11:38
<+Tetrajak>
pics?
11:38
<@Ceddobear>
Kchchch.
11:38
< afny>
I'll do a company shot today I think
11:38
< afny>
TJ, it takes me like
11:38
< afny>
an hour
11:38
<@Ceddobear>
Take one of the Cybele, while you're at it.
11:38
<+Tetrajak>
O_o
11:38
< afny>
to go from taking a picture to showing it to people
11:39
< afny>
because my laptop reads my sd card 1-30 times if I'm lucky
11:39
<+Tetrajak>
bum
11:39
<+Tetrajak>
oh well
11:39
<+Tetrajak>
ouch
11:39
< afny>
and my PC, which reads it immediately, will not stay powered on
11:39
< afny>
or start up
11:39
<@Ceddobear>
How DOES your PC read it?
11:39
< afny>
Ced, I'm sort of thinking about redoing the Cybele, the Peleus, the Thetis, and the Ares
11:39
< afny>
all as these frames
11:39
<@Ceddobear>
Integrated card reader?
11:39
< afny>
nah, same card reader
11:39
< afny>
so the problem is definitely with my mac
11:39
< afny>
for fucks sake.
11:39
<@Ceddobear>
Ah. Mhmm.
11:39
<@Ceddobear>
USB Ports not enough power?
11:39
< afny>
is that even a thing?
11:40
< afny>
they power my headset and mouse just fine
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
Your card reader has a single port, eh?
11:40
< afny>
yeah
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
Well, take those off.
11:40
<+Tetrajak>
accursed computer contraptions! Why are you not reliable for more than 12 months!?
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
And try it.
11:40
< afny>
but i've tried using a camera as a card reader
11:40
< afny>
yeah, I tried that
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
Nothing?
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
Balls.
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
Well.
11:40
< afny>
well it didn't seem to improve my odds, anyway
11:40
<@Ceddobear>
Can't diagnose shit on a Mac. ^^
11:40
< afny>
yeah :\
11:40
< afny>
me neither.
11:40
<+Tetrajak>
man, I need to reformat my HDD, so annoying
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11:42
<+Tetrajak>
actually, I may have just ENOUGH parts for the Venus that I could at least test the connections
11:42
<@Ceddobear>
DO IT.
11:42
<@Ceddobear>
Also: Install your OS once, make an image.
11:42
< afny>
balls and extra balls
11:42
< afny>
I don't have enough
11:42
< afny>
to remake the four chubs
11:42
<@Ceddobear>
Try anyway. You are creative.
11:42
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: I will make a mockup of the venus tomorrow
11:42
<@Ceddobear>
You have some T pieces, too. :D
11:42
<+Tetrajak>
when I have the brains
11:42
< afny>
can't be done without plate clips
11:43
< afny>
I could do without any other part
11:43
< afny>
I'll have to settle for remaking two
11:43
< afny>
BUT WHICH TWO
11:43
< afny>
oh wait
11:43
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: there's an image of the OS on a separate partition on this box already; which is what it came with
11:43
< afny>
WAIT
11:43
< afny>
there's still a frame I haven't cannibalized
11:43
<+Tetrajak>
lololol
11:43
<@Ceddobear>
HA!
11:43
<@Ceddobear>
EAT IT.
11:43
<+Tetrajak>
oh man, parts shortages
11:43
<@Ceddobear>
WHich one?
11:43
< afny>
the red digitigrade
11:44
<@Ceddobear>
TJ: You think it's funny.
11:44
< afny>
so I jave four, the tachi gives me four
11:44
< afny>
that gives me...three
11:44
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: no, I'm all about the parts shortages right now
11:44
< afny>
so that's three chubs if I skimp on a back mount for one
11:44
<@Ceddobear>
Kev and I had many 'frames die to nurture more. :D
11:44
<@Ceddobear>
Kev: Cybele has a diff back.
11:44
<+Tetrajak>
I yea, I've been doing that already
11:44
< afny>
well when I say that's three chubs if I skimp on a back mount
11:44
< afny>
I mean that's three of these new frames
11:44
< afny>
to represent the old chubs
11:45
< afny>
the cybele needs a ringplate back mount the most because it's sturdiest
11:45
< afny>
it's what I used in the Nike Athena
11:45
< afny>
but I could skimp on one of the soldier frames maybe
11:45
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: I COULD build about 4 of the Enforcer frames of mine, since most of the parts are here, but I'm waiting on one more order so I can build all 8
11:45
<@Ceddobear>
Give it an SSR mont.
11:45
<@Ceddobear>
TJ: I know that feel, bro.
11:46
< afny>
I've never ordered parts for anything specific before
11:46
< afny>
mostly because I was AVOIDING that feel
11:46
<+Tetrajak>
As it is, I'll be cannabalising a squad of frames tomorrow just to get the parts to build a Venus prototype
11:46
< afny>
instant gratification or bust.
11:46
<+Tetrajak>
hahaha
11:46
<+Tetrajak>
it's ok, I can wait
11:47
<+Tetrajak>
I would feel dissatisfied if I didn't have the full compliment of frames
11:47
<+Tetrajak>
except when I am experimenting with frame design
11:47
<+Tetrajak>
in all other cases, when I am making a squad, I am making a full squad
11:49
<+Tetrajak>
Man, I want to experiment with some Safir's as well
11:49
<@Ceddobear>
You guys have no idea how confusing it is to have a user with the name "Gregor Temp".
11:49
<+Tetrajak>
no, I don't
11:49
<+Tetrajak>
how is it confusing?
11:50
<@Ceddobear>
"That is in the temp folder." - "My home?" - "No, temp ... orary files."
11:50
<@Ceddobear>
Or the reminder I just got.
11:50
<@Ceddobear>
"remove temp privileges Z34"
11:50
<@Ceddobear>
*scratches head*
11:50
<+Tetrajak>
lol
11:51
<@Ceddobear>
Whose temporary privys am I removing?
11:51
<+Tetrajak>
man, I see what you mean
11:51
<@Ceddobear>
"Temp variables need to be set." - "What now?"
11:51
<+Tetrajak>
XD
11:51
<+Tetrajak>
Here, Temp, keep my cookies safe
11:51
<+Tetrajak>
No, don't eat them
11:52
<+Tetrajak>
oh wait, throw away those ones, they're from a bad porno site
11:54
< afny>
No, Ced only gets cookies from clean porn sites
11:54
< afny>
we established this yesterday.
11:55
<+Tetrajak>
lol
11:55
<+Tetrajak>
I see
11:56
<+Tetrajak>
well, I'm glad Ced gets his from a reputable source
12:00
< afny>
awww
12:00
< afny>
I realized I can get a bunch more ring clips
12:00
< afny>
but I have to kill the weed chub
12:01
< afny>
WEED CHUB, we hardly knew yee.
12:02
<@Ceddobear>
"Don't delete the Temp folder." - "Why would I ever do that?" - "... well, the user said he wants his account to be flattened."
12:03
<+Tetrajak>
confusion abounds!
12:03
<+Tetrajak>
anywho, I'm off for the night
12:04
<+Tetrajak>
not sure I'll be able to build the prototype Venus tomorrow though, as there's a lot of socialising going on
12:04
< afny>
o7
12:04
<+Tetrajak>
night night, or morning, or whatever time of day it is for you all
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12:04
< afny>
taking apart chub hands
12:04
< afny>
is so painful
12:05
< afny>
those rounds do not want to leave their tile clips
12:23
<@Ceddobear>
BITE THEM.
12:23
<@Ceddobear>
DON'T DO AS I DO.
12:23
<@Ceddobear>
DON'T JAM YOUR NAILS INTO YOUR TEETH.
12:24
< afny>
biting them fucks up the plastic
12:24
<@Ceddobear>
Only if you bite them the wrong way.
12:24
< afny>
they look like shit if you ever put them stud in
12:24
<@Ceddobear>
You need a careful technique of levereing and turning.
12:24
<@Ceddobear>
Smokeytimes.
12:37
< afny>
yeah
12:37
< afny>
lined up
12:37
< afny>
I have to convert those frames to something other than Chubs
12:37
< afny>
they just don't mesh
12:38 Dukayn [dcfd2c3c@Nightstar-992d69e3.mibbit.com] has joined #mf0
12:45
<@Ceddobear>
Time to lainate some companysheets!
12:46
< Dukayn>
OK, seriously, this guy must be stopped
12:46
< Dukayn>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/7418814076/in/pool-438009@N25
12:48
<@Ceddobear>
What the.
12:49
< afny>
yeah :\
12:50
<@Ceddobear>
Issat pT?
12:51
<@Ceddobear>
Because it looks like pT.
12:51
< afny>
wut
12:51
< afny>
oh
12:51
< afny>
no
12:52
< afny>
it's just that guy who was posting big scale stuff earlier
12:52
< afny>
with really old legos
12:52
< afny>
HE'S DOING IT AGAIN
12:52
< afny>
he definitely doesn't know what MFZ is
12:52
<@Ceddobear>
Not at all.
12:52
<@Ceddobear>
BRB.
12:52
< afny>
he's just confused
12:52
< afny>
he is not at all
12:52
< afny>
pT
13:00
< afny>
down to 26 frames
13:15
<@Ceddobear>
Hey, that's 6 short of a 4th company.
13:20
< Dukayn>
I HAVE 1
13:20
<@Ceddobear>
1 COMPANY?
13:21
< Dukayn>
1 frame
13:21
< Dukayn>
and it's not even properly built
13:24
<@Ceddobear>
I feel you, bro.
13:25
<@Ceddobear>
I've been there.
13:25
<@Ceddobear>
With no lego.
13:25
<@Ceddobear>
Such a sad place to be.
13:27
< Dukayn>
It's sadder when you have Lego.
13:27
< Dukayn>
Somewhere.
13:27
< Dukayn>
FUCK KNOWS WHERE BUT SOMEWHERE
13:27
<@Ceddobear>
FIND IT. D:
13:28
< Dukayn>
IT'S IN THE POSTAL SYSTEM
13:28
< Dukayn>
Kinda hard to find :P
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
OH.
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
YEAH.
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
THAT.
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
FUCK.
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
THERE IS BLACK AND ORANGE IN THERE.
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
AND CLIPS AND T PIECES.
13:28
<@Ceddobear>
AND TRAVIS BRICKS.
13:41
< Dukayn>
I KNOW
13:41
< Dukayn>
Anyway, I'm going to go play some Skyrim.
13:41 Dukayn is now known as Dukayn[AFK]
13:43
<@Ceddobear>
SKYRIM WITHOUT A KEYBOARD.
13:43
<@Ceddobear>
APPARENTLY, DUKEY USES THE MOUSE AND VOICE COMMANDS.
13:44
< afny>
is this true
13:44
< afny>
IS THIS TRUE
13:44
<@Ceddobear>
"Computer, dragon scream, Aaaaaaaaah"
13:44
<@Ceddobear>
"Computer, inventory, massive cucumber, eat."
13:44
<@Ceddobear>
"Computer, crafting, training doll, make."
13:45
< afny>
computer, console, spawn underscore cheesewedge zero zero 2 times three hundred
13:46
< afny>
okay, I need a slightly more humanoid
13:46
< afny>
but still greebly zizyesque base
13:46
< afny>
for these new frames
13:46 Dukayn[AFK] is now known as Dukayn[SkyrimWithAKeyboard]
13:47
< afny>
A LIKELY STORY
13:47
<@Ceddobear>
SHARE MORE TO US, DUKEY.
13:53
< afny>
I think I'm gonna mock this one up as a plain frame
13:53
< afny>
before I do anything fancy
14:05
<@Ceddobear>
Well, make the base and see what you can greeble it up to.
14:09 mode/#mf0 [+vv afny Dukayn[SkyrimWithAKeyboard]] by Ceddobear
14:11
<+afny>
I've got a base but I'm not sure if I like the outline
14:13
<@Ceddobear>
I would say, take a snapshot.
14:13
<@Ceddobear>
Wait, you have a Macbook, eh?
14:18
<+afny>
yeah I'll do that in a sec
14:18
<+afny>
it's back heavy right now
14:20
<@Ceddobear>
Does your Macbook have a webcam?
14:23
<+afny>
yeah
14:23
<+afny>
i've done that before but it's like
14:23
<+afny>
hard to see any detail
14:25
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Photo%20on%202012-06-22%20at%2009.25.jpg
14:26
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Photo%20on%202012-06-22%20at%2009.25%20%232.jp g
14:26
<+afny>
I think it looks too angry
14:26
<+afny>
and I'm not sold on the arms
14:28
<+afny>
hm, I took the spacer plates out of the chest
14:28
<+afny>
so it's 2p thinner now between the arms
14:28
<+afny>
that's a little better
14:29
<+afny>
by the way, this is for the peleus/ares/thetis
14:30
<+afny>
gonna do something different for the cybele
14:32
<@Ceddobear>
The arms ... mhmm.
14:32
<@Ceddobear>
Make them longer.
14:32
<@Ceddobear>
1x2 tile at the end, line up the clip plate so it becomes a 1x3 arm, 1x2 plate on the other side.
14:33
<+afny>
well I can make them longer but I can't do it like that
14:33
<+afny>
I never like to put anything on the stud adjacent to the clip plate because you lose a point of rotation
14:36
<+afny>
hm
14:37
<+afny>
I want to just not use hinge plates at all for the arms but I can't figure out a way to do travis shoulders
14:37
<+afny>
without half pins to reverse back into hands
14:37
<+afny>
gotta mess around
14:37
<+afny>
I actually can use two travis per frame with these guys because I can take them out of the chubs that came before
14:39
<+afny>
hm
14:39
<+afny>
I might be a genius.
14:39
<+afny>
although this takes a lot of bricks
14:41
<+afny>
nope.
14:41
<+afny>
I'm dumb.
14:42
<@Ceddobear>
Why? D:
14:42
<+afny>
thought I had a brilliant arm
14:42
<+afny>
it would work if the connection of tap handle into headlight open stud
14:42
<+afny>
wasn't so flimsy
14:42
<@Ceddobear>
Bite it.
14:42
<@Ceddobear>
Bite the open stud. Ease it back up with a T piece.
14:42
<@Ceddobear>
Then put the tap in.
14:43
<@Ceddobear>
That's how I got all my Superchub arms to hold.
14:44
<+afny>
heh
14:44
<+afny>
I used wrench bushings
14:44
<+afny>
but nah, I won't DO IT
14:45
<+afny>
got a new plan
14:45
<+afny>
it's better
14:45
<+afny>
maybe
14:45
<+afny>
i'll demo in a sec
14:46
<@Ceddobear>
You could use open stud rounds.
14:47
<@Ceddobear>
Or technic bushings.
14:48
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Photo%20on%202012-06-22%20at%2009.47.jpg
14:48
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Photo%20on%202012-06-22%20at%2009.47%20%232.jp g
14:48
<+afny>
open stud rounds don't give me two angles
14:48
<+afny>
technic bushings might somehow work
14:49
<+afny>
so that's two headlights
14:49
<+afny>
two tile clips
14:49
<+afny>
a round
14:49
<+afny>
a tap
14:49
<+afny>
and a travis
14:49
<+afny>
the default angle is a right angle instead of a straight line
14:49
<+afny>
and it can't actually MAKE a straight line, but it does have some elbow artic
14:49
<@Ceddobear>
You know what he looks like?
14:50
<@Ceddobear>
Nonconsentual Brokeback Mountain, the morning after.
14:50 Soren is now known as Soren|away
14:51
<+afny>
heh
14:51
<+afny>
it's because of the knees
14:51
<+afny>
he's a samurai okay
14:51
<@Ceddobear>
He walks bowlegged.
14:51
<@Ceddobear>
Can you put those feet outwards?
14:52
<+afny>
yeah
14:52
<+afny>
t
14:52
<+afny>
+hose legs are EXTREMELY poseable
14:53
<+afny>
agh
14:53
<+afny>
sadly the arms look much better with just a normal wrist
14:54
<+afny>
but that either means I need half pins
14:54
<+afny>
or something
14:54
<+afny>
to get a reversal
14:54
<+afny>
do I have eight half pins
14:54
<@Ceddobear>
Loaded questions.
14:54
<@Ceddobear>
I sent you some.
14:56
<+afny>
well I have more than 8 half pins
14:56
<+afny>
I meant
14:56
<+afny>
do I have half pins not in use
14:57
<+afny>
hrgm
14:57
<+afny>
there are two on those BITS
14:57
<+afny>
I'm not sure how I feel about those bits anyway
14:57
<+afny>
I do want to use drone attackers for the cybele still
14:57
<+afny>
but big ass gundam bits
14:57
<+afny>
maybe not?
14:58
<@Ceddobear>
I'll head home. Be back in a few.
14:58
<+afny>
o7
14:58
<@Ceddobear>
o7
14:58
<+afny>
it's a moot point anyway
14:58
<+afny>
balls
14:58
<+afny>
c
14:58
<+afny>
an't put a halfpin
14:58
<+afny>
in a headlight
14:58
<@Ceddobear>
True.
14:58
<+afny>
because of the recess
14:58
<@Ceddobear>
Yeah.
14:58
<+afny>
back to the drawing board
14:58
<@Ceddobear>
Lampholders?
14:58
<@Ceddobear>
CUT LAMPHOLDERS.
14:59
<+afny>
even IF
14:59
<+afny>
I had spares
14:59
<+afny>
which I don't
14:59
<+afny>
I would not
14:59
<+afny>
all the lampholders left are going to the cores of the frames
14:59
<+afny>
4 each
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
They work wonders, man. :)
14:59
<+afny>
it's CHEEEATING.
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
Just get a buttload of those.
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
And make a few.
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
I have ... 4.
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
Sometimes they are just what you need.
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
ANYWAY.
14:59
<@Ceddobear>
I'mm outta here.
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15:03
<+afny>
I could just use lampholders with the plate, I don't mind
15:03
<+afny>
but I don't have enough
15:03
<+afny>
hrhrhr
15:03
<+afny>
I could use....
15:03
<+afny>
just a brick, I suppose
15:03
<+afny>
maybe I can make up for the lack of greebles elsewhere
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15:22
<+MittenNinja>
Heya
15:24
<+afny>
o/
15:27
<+MittenNinja>
Dude afny. Youre on a roll with those frames
15:28
<+MittenNinja>
Which zizy are they based off?
15:28
<+afny>
the Aphrodite is based pretty heavily on the SIS
15:28
<+afny>
and the others are based loosely on the AFI
15:28
<+afny>
I'm doing more now
15:29
<+afny>
i'm redoing the four Chubs in that company in a more zizyesque humanoid style
15:30
<+MittenNinja>
I don't think I'm familiar with the sis
15:31
<+MittenNinja>
Can't wait to see those Chubs though
15:32
<+afny>
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=907877
15:32
<+afny>
the cannon was more or less copied exactly until I changed the casing
15:33
<+afny>
the others are based on this: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=907843
15:33
<+MittenNinja>
Nice.
15:34
<+MittenNinja>
I'm goog to have to order some of those hinge plates and experiment with his stuff a bit.
15:34
<+afny>
to be honest I don't see them as an integral part
15:34
<+MittenNinja>
I think I have like two
15:34
<+afny>
the chubs I'm doing are still very zizy and they don't use any
15:34
<+afny>
it's the ring plate based center and heavy use of bar plates
15:34
<+afny>
that give it the style
15:34
<+MittenNinja>
I can see that.
15:35
<+MittenNinja>
I think the thing that kept me from using his stuff was the lack of articulation rotating left and right
15:35
<+MittenNinja>
I like articulation
15:36
<+afny>
his frames are super articulatey, it's just mostly based on plate and stud rotations
15:36
<+MittenNinja>
I'm sure I can cook something up that will work though.
15:36
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah
15:36
<+MittenNinja>
They are very articulate
15:36
<+afny>
all his open studs are certainly different from the "canonical" designs, but they're surprisingly easy to bring more in line with current trendy frames
15:36
<+afny>
once you add taps and 5way bricks into the mix
15:37
<+afny>
things get crazy.
15:37
<+MittenNinja>
It's definitely something I'm going to have to fiddle with
15:41
<+MittenNinja>
I just got another 20 Travis bricks too
15:41
<+afny>
after cannibalizing these cubs, I'm actually going to net some
15:41
<+MittenNinja>
Nice
15:41
<+afny>
chubs*
15:42
<+afny>
none of the frames I made in the last two days use any
15:42
<+afny>
and these new ones only use two
15:42
<+MittenNinja>
I netted a bunch after killing my two nagas
15:42
<+MittenNinja>
Nice
15:43
<+MittenNinja>
My assault Chubs use 7
15:43
<+MittenNinja>
But that could easily drop to five
15:43
<+MittenNinja>
I just don't have any black 1x1s with two studs
15:47
<+afny>
yet again
15:47
<+afny>
I'm going to end up with more frames
15:47
<+afny>
than can fit in one company
15:48
<+afny>
but not enough to split them into two
15:48
<+afny>
but I'm only over by ONE this time
15:48
<+afny>
that's a record.
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15:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Backsies.
15:50
<+afny>
alo
15:50 Deathzero [NSwebIRC@Nightstar-5d46be7b.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mf0
15:50
<+afny>
I cracked the arms
15:50
< Deathzero>
mornin folks.
15:50
<+afny>
but I'm going to wait until I have all four done to take pics
15:50
<+afny>
working on a good ssr mount right now
15:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya DZ.
15:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Whatchu got, Kev?
15:50
<+afny>
I just went with a halfpin in a 1x1 brick
15:50
<+afny>
for the forearm
15:50
<+afny>
it's not as not greebled as I thought it would be
15:51
<+afny>
I kind of made up for it elsewhere
15:51
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah, ssr mounts can be tricky
15:52
<+MittenNinja>
I used taps shoved into round 1x1s for the assault Chubs
15:52
<@Ced23Ric>
It's probably the one thing I never stressed about. :D
15:52
<+MittenNinja>
Gives them some articulation
15:52
<+afny>
I like them to look good
15:52
<+MittenNinja>
Me too
15:52
< Deathzero>
Found perfect mount for my version of LFoW's meltabomb last night :D
15:52
<+afny>
these frames don't have shoulder mounts that aren't attached to the actual shoulder so I need to get creative
15:52 * Ced23Ric uses some greebled box with a visible rocket.
15:53
<+afny>
I'm not a fan of visible rockets
15:54
<+afny>
well
15:54
<+afny>
it's not that, really
15:54
<+afny>
I just prefer CLUSTERS of rockets
15:54
<+MittenNinja>
I actually put together a pretty slick ssr prototype the other day
15:54
<+afny>
and at this scale, a small launcher with a tile makes more sense as a cluster
15:54
<+afny>
than an actual brickbuilt cluster.
15:54
<+MittenNinja>
It's got a folding door over the rocket barrel
15:55
< Deathzero>
o_O
15:55
< Deathzero>
I wanna see that
15:55
<+MittenNinja>
I'll grab a picture of it when I get home.
15:58
< Deathzero>
coolies.
15:59
<+MittenNinja>
It's only 1p thicker than Sorens standard double headlight ssr
16:00
<+afny>
this is tough without soldier mounts
16:00
<+afny>
I always find X/Y/G/B is the hardest to build
16:01
<+afny>
have to represent the widest spread of systems with the least amount of things that can be handheld
16:02
<+MittenNinja>
Actually, I find that the easiest
16:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Mittens: I got the stickers now, and the Travis bricks for Randy.
16:02
<@Ced23Ric>
I'mma do a mail run tomorrow.
16:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Got 12 1x2 wedges, too.
16:02
<+MittenNinja>
Finding ways to create.double systems and half half break off.cleanly and.still look good is more difficult
16:02
<@Ced23Ric>
And 8 1x4 tiles.
16:02
<+MittenNinja>
Nice
16:02
<+afny>
I've got lots of tricks to do that
16:02
<@Ced23Ric>
That should bosst you for a bit. :)
16:02
<+MittenNinja>
Thanks.Ceddo
16:03
<+afny>
but I like stuff to be substantial even if it's just a single system
16:03
<+afny>
so I don't like using scopes as Y, for example
16:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Same.
16:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Honestly, when we play, we just peel off seemingly random things.
16:04
<@Ced23Ric>
If it's not the weapon, we grab whatever.
16:04
<+MittenNinja>
I understand that
16:04
<+afny>
I don't
16:05
<+afny>
I don't even get what you're SAYING.
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
S
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
What.
16:05
<+MittenNinja>
I understand you afny
16:05
<+afny>
you just rip off random bits?
16:05
<+afny>
how do you
16:05
<+afny>
oh
16:05
<+MittenNinja>
About the scopes n shit
16:05
<+afny>
Ced: how do you know what they have left?
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
We track damage on a sheet..?
16:05
<+afny>
oh
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
I made those company sheets for a damn reason.
16:05
<+afny>
I figured you didn't use those for personal play
16:05
<+afny>
I dunno why
16:06
<+MittenNinja>
They're nice. But I wouldn't use them for me
16:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Damage bits are just for difficult terrain.
16:06
<+afny>
I'd definitely use them for a demo but once I got the hang of a game, I probably wouldn't
16:06
<@Ced23Ric>
You play a game.
16:06
<+MittenNinja>
Same here afny
16:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Then tell me you have full overview over a dozen++ 'frames.
16:06
<+afny>
well I could tell by looking at the frame
16:06
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah
16:06
<+afny>
it's not as organized as a sheet, for sure
16:06
<+afny>
but all I have to do is look at the frame
16:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Your 'frames? Sure!
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<+MittenNinja>
I figure if people want a sheet they will find it or make one
16:13
<+MittenNinja>
If they don't but still want one ill point them to yours :)
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16:13
<+afny>
really it depends on how you play the game
16:13
<+afny>
if you want to get tactical and take it extremely seriously
16:13
<+afny>
Ced has a valid point, the sheets will make everything SO much easier
16:13
<@Ced23Ric>
See, I'll just have 5 with me.
16:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Be prepared.
16:13
<+afny>
if you're just playing a really casual game
16:13
<@Ced23Ric>
And make sure they have a good time.
16:14
<+afny>
no need for the sheets
16:14
<@Ced23Ric>
They are the great equalizer. :D
16:14
<+afny>
but honestly if they're laminated, it doesn't really add any extra complications to make off a system
16:14
<+MittenNinja>
I plan on playing pretty casual for the time being
16:14
<+afny>
after you pop it off the frame
16:14
<@Ced23Ric>
You're the veteran, Greg.
16:14
<+MittenNinja>
I know that
16:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Be the cool guy who has everything covered. ^^
16:14
<+MittenNinja>
Lol
16:14
<@Ced23Ric>
It really don't hurt you to have 5 sheets at the ready.
16:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Is what I am saying.
16:15
<@Ced23Ric>
It takes a wee bit effort once, and is there forever.
16:15
<+MittenNinja>
I hear ya
16:15
<@Ced23Ric>
I got mine done up today.
16:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Before, I would fill PAGES in my notebook.
16:15
<+afny>
urghh...huge rifle, huge jetpack
16:15
<+afny>
how do I fit G and B
16:15
<+afny>
er...Y and B
16:15
<@Ced23Ric>
B: ECM pod
16:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Y: Sensor vanes.
16:15
<+MittenNinja>
At this point its just not very high on my priority list
16:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, I am STILL preping for my demo games, lol.
16:16
<+MittenNinja>
Heelies!!
16:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Wheel heels are nice Gs.
16:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Wanna know the Gs of my Superchubs?
16:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Fucking nothing, that's what.
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
I take off the dished of the legs. Damaged motivators.
16:17
< Deathzero>
ha.
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
*dishes
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
The B?
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Take off the chestplate.
16:17
<+MittenNinja>
The Gs on my fat snakes are just the big.feet
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
The Y? take out the antenna in the cockpit.
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
The DF? He has a GUN. EASY MODE.
16:17
<+afny>
nah, like
16:17
<@Ced23Ric>
And SSRs, I can take off, because I have visible missles.
16:17
<+afny>
the G is the big deal
16:18
<+afny>
and you just skip it
16:18
<+afny>
that's why you have so much room
16:18
<@Ced23Ric>
What's the big deal?
16:18
<@Ced23Ric>
These Superchubs have a high mobility package.
16:18
<+afny>
it takes up a lot of space
16:18
<+afny>
for me
16:18
<+afny>
usually
16:18
<@Ced23Ric>
You make it take up a lot of space.
16:18
<+afny>
it either means pinning something to the legs
16:18
<+afny>
or to the back
16:18
<+afny>
well, yeah, but you make it take up no space at all
16:18
<+afny>
so you COULDN'T even field that frame without a sheet
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Why not?
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
That's my other point.
16:19
<+afny>
no physical representation
16:19
< Deathzero>
I like jump pack's for G.
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Your G is a jet thruster array.
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
My G is a inverted binoc.
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Who's right, who's wrong?
16:19
< Deathzero>
everyone :D
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
BOOM COMPANY SHEET.
16:19
<+MittenNinja>
Jump packs are one of my next endevours
16:19
<+afny>
no one, I've used both of those
16:19
<+afny>
but inverted binocs
16:19
<+afny>
are a physical representation
16:19
<+afny>
that's fine
16:19
<@Ced23Ric>
And high mobility is not physical how?
16:19
<+afny>
that's not the same as "fucking nothing"
16:20
<+afny>
well because there's nothing you can break off the frame
16:20
<+afny>
if there is, then you're cool
16:20
<@Ced23Ric>
But of course.
16:20
<+afny>
if you have a grille to represent it
16:20
<+afny>
or whatever
16:20
<+afny>
then it's fine
16:21
<@Ced23Ric>
What's wrong with the dishes?
16:22
<+afny>
nothing
16:22
<@Ced23Ric>
See, my point is ...
16:22
< Deathzero>
I had thought about using the same method as Ced, counting the high mobility as a G, but my plan for damage with that was to just break off the lower half of the chub, let him sit on his arms/torso.
16:22
<+afny>
I don't know what you got from what I said, but what I was arguing was that you need SOMETHING to physically represent your system on your frame
16:22
<@Ced23Ric>
... those are better legs than a normal Chub has.
16:22
<+afny>
it doesn't matter if its one tiny part
16:22
<+afny>
it just has to bephysical
16:22
<@Ced23Ric>
And those legs give him more agility.
16:22
<+afny>
and you need to be able to break it off (relatively easily)
16:22
<+afny>
yeah, I get what you're saying
16:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Now, if it gets damaged, I damage the leg.
16:22
<+afny>
but you need a pop that breaks off to represent that
16:22
<+afny>
er...pretend
16:23
<@Ced23Ric>
I can break off multiple parts.
16:23
<+afny>
that last sentence
16:23
<+afny>
made ANY sort of sense
16:23
<+afny>
yeah, then that's fine
16:23
<+afny>
if you visually damage the legs
16:23
<@Ced23Ric>
dishes, the knee guard, I can damage the feet.
16:23
<+afny>
we've got no disagreement
16:23
<@Ced23Ric>
I do.
16:23
<+afny>
BUT WHAT ABOUT
16:23
<+afny>
I'm doing that exact same thing
16:23
<+afny>
for these frames
16:23
<+afny>
except it's a B and not a G
16:23
<@Ced23Ric>
I peel of chest plates.
16:23
<+afny>
for W?
16:24
<+MittenNinja>
For B
16:24
<+afny>
oh
16:24
<+MittenNinja>
Arms and legs.come off for W
16:24
<@Ced23Ric>
By "random bits" I really just meant that we take of things that are "there". Like the dishes. We do show damage. But we don't always go "AND NOW, BRICK #27 to #31."
16:24
<+afny>
LEGS?!
16:24
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah
16:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, if a 'frame is 1W left, we take off the lower body.
16:24
<+afny>
Lt. Dan can still fight
16:24
<+afny>
w
16:24
<+afny>
ith no legs
16:24
<@Ced23Ric>
We call a 1W 'frame "a head".
16:24
<+MittenNinja>
Take a look through the pics from the con
16:25
<+MittenNinja>
No arms
16:25
<@Ced23Ric>
"The head is still defending the station."
16:25
<+MittenNinja>
Standing on one leg
16:25
<@Ced23Ric>
"The head hobbles across the battlefield and bites your 'frame."
16:25
<+MittenNinja>
Down to 1W
16:25
< Deathzero>
lmao @ lt dan.
16:25
< Deathzero>
its just a flesh wound! now come back here so I can bite your kneecaps off!
16:25
<@Ced23Ric>
I had several 'frames become invincible at 1W.
16:26
<@Ced23Ric>
So ... there's some merit to the Lt. Dan comparison.
16:27
<+afny>
that's why I'd keep the real crucial damage minimal until 0W
16:27
<@Ced23Ric>
No.
16:27
<+afny>
I'd rip off an arm for a frame down to 1W, but I'd leave it mobile
16:27
<@Ced23Ric>
1W is BUST.
16:27
<+afny>
it can still move
16:27
<@Ced23Ric>
At 1W, we smash it.
16:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Err, 0W.
16:27
<+afny>
yeah
16:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Or shoot it wit ha Nerf gun.
16:28
<+afny>
agreed
16:28
<+afny>
but at 1W, it can still kill something
16:28
<+afny>
or run away
16:28
<+afny>
just not at the same time
16:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah it can.
16:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Free d8G, baby.
16:28
<+afny>
oh, true
16:28
<+afny>
well there you go
16:28
<+afny>
i'm not going to give a frame with dg8
16:28
<+afny>
no legs.
16:29
< Deathzero>
lmao, I can't shoot my frames with my nerf guns.
16:29
<@Ced23Ric>
You should really play some games, man.
16:29
< Deathzero>
I'd be looking for the peices for days.
16:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Deathzero: Modded?
16:29
< Deathzero>
totally
16:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Very good.
16:29
< Deathzero>
brass pvc sealed breach on my longshot.
16:29
<@Ced23Ric>
ARs out, stronger spring, sealed breech, selfmade darts?
16:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Aww yeah.
16:29
< Deathzero>
using half an AR-15 stock spring for power.
16:30
< Deathzero>
:D
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Bahaha.
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Military Grade NERF!
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, we're using the XR Vortex.
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Those XR discs are just about right.
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Stock, of course.
16:30
< Deathzero>
hits 70 ft or so pretty accurately, 100ft inaccurate.
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Smashes a 'frame into bits.
16:30
<@Ced23Ric>
And sates Danni's thirst for bloody murder.
16:30
< Deathzero>
lol, disk shooters.
16:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Those things are cool, dude!
16:31
< Deathzero>
I've not gotten to take one apart and see about messin with em yet.
16:31
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, not for Nerf Wars.
16:31
<@Ced23Ric>
But for LARPs, for example.
16:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Fallout LARPs, esp.
16:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, the Vortex has a great shape to be brushed and painted.
16:32
< Deathzero>
only larping I ever do is Vampire.
16:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Ha!
16:32
<@Ced23Ric>
I could never.
16:32
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, I attended Conquest of Mythodea, and some smaller LARPs here. But Vampire?
16:33
<@Ced23Ric>
(CoM is a 3000 - 4000 people Con over ~4 days, annually held, by the way.)
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< Deathzero>
I only play 40k with my friends, I've got one that its just hillarious watching him go off and scream at his Imperial Guard during a game.
16:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Too many neckbeards and rules lawyers rubbing on out over discovering the latest Matt Ward cheese.
16:40
<+afny>
it's a weird analogy, but I love MFZ because it's a F2P wargame
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16:40
<+afny>
in the GOOD sense of F2P, not the bad.
16:40
<+afny>
Free/low cost barrier, and the more money you spend
16:40
<+afny>
the better your shit looks
16:40
<+afny>
but you don't get any better at the game
16:40
<@Ced23Ric>
It's a weird analogy, but you just made my brain twitch.
16:40
<@Ced23Ric>
But then I got it.
16:40
<+MittenNinja>
I like.it because it eliminates the rules lawyering and maintains a deep, fun, and balanced experience
16:41
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm not used to you making so much sense.
16:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Maybe I should take a nap.
16:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, I'll do that.
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16:41
< Deathzero>
I'm loving it cause it gives me a use for my lego's other than just lookin nifty.
16:41
< Deathzero>
later Ced.
16:42
<+afny>
o/
16:43
<+MittenNinja>
But yeah, ultimately the guys with frames made out of color coded 2x4 bricks stacked on top of each other has just as good of a chance to win as the guy who made his company out of custom chromed grand nagas.
16:44
< Deathzero>
thats one of the things I like.
16:44
<+MittenNinja>
Absolutely
16:45
< Deathzero>
I've been teaching a buddy of mine and his kids how to play. Mine and his frames both look pretty good, the kids frames look like crap, but they still work just fine.
16:45
<+MittenNinja>
It let's the people that care about aesthetics get really serious about it
16:45
<+MittenNinja>
And the prions that care about playing get.really serious about it
16:45
<+afny>
and for kids, honestly
16:45
<+MittenNinja>
And they aren't mutually exclusive
16:45
<+afny>
they'll be WAY more invested
16:45
<+afny>
if they can make their own frames
16:45
<+afny>
they won't care that it looks like shit
16:45
<+MittenNinja>
Absolutely
16:45
< Deathzero>
yep.
16:46
<+MittenNinja>
I'm a pretty hardcore gamer when it comes to stuff like this.
16:46
<+MittenNinja>
I dig into tactics and strata
16:46
<+MittenNinja>
And I like making my guys look badass
16:47
<+MittenNinja>
I power gamed the shit out of 3e dnd
16:47
< Deathzero>
I totally powergame d&d.
16:47
< Deathzero>
one of my favorite games I played in, I got up to 42nd lvl, the party was going around replacing diety's n shit.
16:47
<+MittenNinja>
After awhile though the "win everything in one turn" type stuff gets old
16:48
<+MittenNinja>
Then you just powergame for style.
16:48
<+MittenNinja>
I had a guy that literally created save points
16:48
< Deathzero>
true, when your AC is 105, and you hit starting at an 80, theres not a whole lot that can provide a challenge.
16:49
<+MittenNinja>
"PhD so he wasn't the secret baddy? Let's go back to yesterday and try again."
16:49
<+MittenNinja>
*oh
16:49
< Deathzero>
nice.
16:50
< Deathzero>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deathzero/7420287398/ meltabomb! :D
16:50
<+MittenNinja>
Nice
16:51
< Deathzero>
my version of LFoW's
16:51
<+afny>
I could rant about the d20 system again right now, and about how games should be robust against people trying to break the system
16:51
<+afny>
but I won't.
16:51
<+afny>
I WON'T.
16:51
< Deathzero>
his was a bit large for my taste.
16:51
< Deathzero>
>_> I don't break the d20 system.
16:51
< Deathzero>
I mold it, to my own desires.
16:52
<+MittenNinja>
Any system like that is about mutual agreement by the group using them
16:53
<+MittenNinja>
Either everyone.powergames the shit out of it
16:53
<+MittenNinja>
Or no one does
16:53
<+MittenNinja>
And its still balanced and.fun
16:53
<+MittenNinja>
Plus if.you have a good DM it doesn't matter
16:53
< Deathzero>
yea, most of the people I play with are powergamers, and our DM can usually still provide a challenge.
16:54
<+MittenNinja>
I played an epic gestalt campaign once
16:55
< Deathzero>
same.
16:55
< Deathzero>
I love the gestalt system.
16:55
<+MittenNinja>
It got ridiculous.
16:55
< Deathzero>
always does.
16:55
<+MittenNinja>
But our dm was awesome and made sure we.knew we weren't invincible
16:55
< Deathzero>
same here.
16:56
<+MittenNinja>
and he did it without pulling the old "because I'm the dms and I said so" card
16:56
<+MittenNinja>
Which I have mad.respect.for
16:56
< Deathzero>
best gm's always do, its a lazy gm that pulls that card.
16:56
< Deathzero>
gm/dm, whatever.
16:56
< Deathzero>
same diff.
16:57
< Deathzero>
My DM took one of our games and wrote it into a book.
16:57
< Deathzero>
even got it published.
16:57
< Deathzero>
The Silentstep Chronicles
17:00
<+afny>
goin to lunch
17:00
<+afny>
o/
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17:01
< Deathzero>
omnomnom
17:01
< Deathzero>
o7
17:04
<+MittenNinja>
Cool.
17:04
<+MittenNinja>
I'll have to check it out
17:06
< Deathzero>
was supposed to be a like 6 book series, she stopped writing halfway into the second book. lol.
17:11
<+MittenNinja>
Lol
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17:16
< Deathzero>
argh, finding pricin info on the Gencon site is a pain.
17:18
< Deathzero>
ah, founds it.
17:19
<+MittenNinja>
Gencon, from what I've seen/heard, has been going downhill since it came under new ownership a few years back.
17:19
<+MittenNinja>
Which buns me out
17:19
<+MittenNinja>
*bums
17:19
< Deathzero>
Yea, I've not been going past few years.
17:20
<+MittenNinja>
You'll have to let me know if its getting better or not
17:20
< Deathzero>
But from what I hear there will be some type of mf0 presense there, so I'm wantin to go this year.
17:20
<+MittenNinja>
The first couple years I went it was killer
17:20
<+MittenNinja>
Then it changed ownership and the next year it was like "really? This is it?"
17:21
< Deathzero>
Yea, its not as high profile as it once was,
17:22
<+MittenNinja>
It used to be HUGE
17:22
<+MittenNinja>
There was so much I wanted to do and not enough time to do it all
17:22
< Deathzero>
Yea.....I know...:/
17:22
< Deathzero>
I've lived here in Indy most of my life so I've watched it come and go numerous times.
17:23
<+MittenNinja>
Then it was "okay then. Wanna hit up a bar and get wasted?" On Saturday afternoon
17:23
< Deathzero>
lol.
17:23
<+MittenNinja>
Indy is a cool city
17:23
<+MittenNinja>
I like it a lot
17:24
< Deathzero>
You should goto the 'con this year.
17:24
< Deathzero>
I wanna meet all the mf0 peoples that I can.
17:24
< Deathzero>
lol.
17:26
<+MittenNinja>
Maybe next year. I don't have the vacation time to pull that off this year.
17:26
< Deathzero>
:/ my work never wants to let me take the time off.
17:27
< Deathzero>
but I'm off by 2:00 pm most days so thats not a biggy.
17:27
< Deathzero>
and the convention center is only like 15 minutes from my house.
17:32
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah
17:32
<+MittenNinja>
I live in Denver
17:32
<+MittenNinja>
And I manage at a bar
17:33
< Deathzero>
I saw that you lived in Denver, enjoyed the pics from the Con.
17:35
<+MittenNinja>
Thanks man. It was loads of fun.
17:37
< Deathzero>
Looked like it. Wish I had the funds to travel to con's like some of the people out there.
17:38
< Deathzero>
I only end up going to stuff thats local. House payments and kid kinda put a damper on travelling and such.
17:40
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah I hear that. I just bought a house.
17:40
<+MittenNinja>
The plus side is I get PTO
17:41
< Deathzero>
cool
17:41
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah, so I get paid to go play games and geek out
17:41
< Deathzero>
and grats, buying a house is one of the biggest headaches ever.
17:42
<+MittenNinja>
The downside is I only can do so much
17:42
<+MittenNinja>
So far its been realtively painless
17:42
< Deathzero>
cool, I went through a bunch of nonsense in getting mine.
17:43
< Deathzero>
and the 50 or so pages of "sign here, initial here, blah blah blah"
17:43
<+MittenNinja>
And its only about $100 more than what I was paying in rent before
17:43
<+MittenNinja>
And its almost twice as big
17:43
<+MittenNinja>
And not in between two car dealerships
17:43
<+MittenNinja>
The closing only took 20 minutes
17:44
< Deathzero>
Yep, that was my logic. Most apartments around here are like 550 for so for a small place. My mortgage is like 450 a month including homeowners and property tax's
17:44
<+MittenNinja>
Everyone involved was on the ball and had their shit together
17:44
< Deathzero>
nice. o_o I was in there for closing for like an hour.
17:44
< Deathzero>
I had to switch lenders in the middle of the buying process, I realized the guy I was using didn't know squat.
17:45
< Deathzero>
this place is almost 100 years old. :D
17:46
< Deathzero>
built in 1917.
17:48
<+MittenNinja>
Places that old dont exist here.
17:49
<+MittenNinja>
My house was built in 85
17:50
< Deathzero>
lucky you, probly didn't need wiring all replaced like mine did.
17:50
< Deathzero>
I had 8 grand worth of work included in my mortgage.
17:51
< Deathzero>
took the price of the house up to 58k.
17:52
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah, zero work required
17:52
<+MittenNinja>
Mine was 145k though
17:53
< Deathzero>
how bigs the place?
17:55
< Deathzero>
not counting the basement I've got probly about 1500 sq ft, of usable space split between 3 bedrooms, 2 bath, living room, family room, kitchen and dining rooms.
17:55
< Deathzero>
basement adds another 1100 sq ft, but it's unfinished so its only really good as a smoking/gaming area.
18:00
<+MittenNinja>
Mines only 1200 sgft 2bd 2bath no basement
18:01
<+MittenNinja>
It's in an awesome neighborhood though
18:01
<+MittenNinja>
You pay for location after all
18:01 * Ced|Nap wakes up again.
18:01 Ced|Nap is now known as Ced23Ric
18:02
< Deathzero>
Yea, my house in a place like florida would be over 100k.
18:02
< Deathzero>
I assumed that a lot of what you paid was due to local prices.
18:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Bay Area? Yeah. In buttrape Florida? Maybe not.
18:02
< Deathzero>
When I lived down in florida my dad sold a house we'd lived in for only a year for 40k more than he paid, and the house was in worse shape than when we moved in. lmao.
18:03
< Deathzero>
wb Ced.
18:03
< Deathzero>
enjoy your nap?
18:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Ugh, I feel mushy, but yeah.
18:04
< Deathzero>
mushy? o_O I bet they make a pill for that. lol.
18:04
<@Ced23Ric>
I have pillow marks on my face. :D
18:05
<+MittenNinja>
Yeah, its in a really nice quiet neighborhood right next to olde town, which has lots of cool resturants and bars n stuff. But houses out here are pretty expensive in the first place.
18:06
< Deathzero>
XD @ Ced
18:06
< Deathzero>
sounds like a cool area man. my area's getting a lot of vacancies from people moving out.
18:06
< Deathzero>
that probly helped drive the price on my house down.
18:07
<+MittenNinja>
For sure
18:07
<+MittenNinja>
In my little neighborhood two people have moved put in the past 15 years
18:08
< Deathzero>
lol, least everyone's gonna know everyone else that way.
18:08
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh. Mhmm.
18:08
< Deathzero>
I never know if the people walking down my street live in the area or are looking for something to steal.
18:08
<@Ced23Ric>
I remembered.
18:08
<@Ced23Ric>
I wanted to build ruins.
18:08 * Ced23Ric rubs his face.
18:08
< Deathzero>
Ruins! :D
18:08
<@Ced23Ric>
So tedious.
18:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, a ritual site, with steps leading up to an altar.
18:09
<@Ced23Ric>
But that requires effort and energy.
18:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, I have it all planned in my head.
18:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Just no drive to do it in LDD. ^^
18:09
<@Ced23Ric>
I'll force myself. *sighs*
18:10
< Deathzero>
heh, you could always do it with real legos instead
18:10
< Deathzero>
little less tedious.
18:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Don't have the parts.
18:14
<@Ced23Ric>
I order by project. :D
18:16
< Deathzero>
ah
18:17
< Deathzero>
I order when I've got the money, and I usually just go through and go "I need those, and want those and those, maybe I'll use those"
18:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Lemme show you a first draft of the steps.
18:21
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/steps.png
18:22
<@Ced23Ric>
But that is probably too steep to be used for humans. *rubs chin* would be the equivalent of 80cm / 2.5ft steps.
18:22
< Deathzero>
nice, looks like its gonna be pretty large.
18:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, I dunno about you, but my religious nutcases didn't build their ceremonial sites in a garden shed! :D
18:23
< Deathzero>
lol. true
18:23
< Deathzero>
looks almost sized for mecha.
18:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Meh, might revert to straight building instead of sideways. :|
18:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
18:24
< Deathzero>
I'm now picturing somebody in a mech standing at an alter preaching from inside his mech.
18:24
< Deathzero>
with a congregation of mechs listening.
18:25
<+MittenNinja>
Nice Ceddo!
18:26
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/steps2.png
18:26
<@Ced23Ric>
That'd be the (a lot more boring) standard ste solution.
18:26
<@Ced23Ric>
*step
18:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Step heigt is about 30cm / 1ft.
18:27
< Deathzero>
doesn't have as much character, but definitely more to scale, still looks good.
18:29
< Deathzero>
ahhh, I need more axe blades.
18:29
<+MittenNinja>
I really like the curvature if the other ones
18:29
<+MittenNinja>
But yeah
18:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah but I love the round shaping.
18:30
<+MittenNinja>
That's a lot less parts intesive
18:30
< Deathzero>
yea, thats what I meant by less character. :/
18:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Meh, fuck parts intensity.
18:30
<@Ced23Ric>
I go big or stay home. :D
18:30
< Deathzero>
lol.
18:30
< Deathzero>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deathzero/7420291552/in/photostream/ what you guys think of this axe? good size for a 1d6 wep?
18:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh wow.
18:32
<@Ced23Ric>
That is sweet.
18:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Toteally, man.
18:32
<@Ced23Ric>
-e
18:32
< Deathzero>
Thanks!
18:33 afny|away is now known as afny
18:33
< Deathzero>
that was the only heat hawk design I could come up with that I liked.
18:33
<+afny>
alo
18:33
< Deathzero>
wb afny
18:33
<@Ced23Ric>
... how the fuck?
18:34
<+afny>
wat
18:34
< Deathzero>
how the fuck what
18:34
<@Ced23Ric>
How did he get that in there?
18:34
< Deathzero>
XD oh, thats a 1x1 headlight brick
18:34
<@Ced23Ric>
I know.
18:34
< Deathzero>
I just squeezed the clip part of the axe through the hole in back
18:34
<@Ced23Ric>
WITH WHAT UNGODLY POWER?!
18:35
< Deathzero>
was pretty easy to fit.
18:35
< Deathzero>
<_< the power of the Emperor of Man.
18:35
<@Ced23Ric>
I could say things about other people's mothers about that.
18:35
<@Ced23Ric>
But that would be inappropriate.
18:35
< Deathzero>
lmao.
18:35
<+MittenNinja>
Nice axe dz
18:35
< Deathzero>
thanks
18:35
<@Ced23Ric>
And I will proceed to call you a liar, Dizzee.
18:36
< Deathzero>
you do that. :D
18:36
<@Ced23Ric>
The clip is wider than the brick space.
18:36
< Deathzero>
o_O no
18:36
<@Ced23Ric>
It's impossible.
18:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Totally.
18:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Unless your axeclips are smaller than mine.
18:36
<@Ced23Ric>
I can't even line up either arm of the clip with the hole.
18:36
< Deathzero>
the clip is only slightly larger than the opening, the force of the clip pushing out keeps it in place.
18:37
< Deathzero>
I'll take a pic of it halfway out for you
18:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Maybe the transblue axeclips are hardr.
18:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, I believe you. :D
18:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Still, this thing won't go fucking anywhere.
18:38
<@Ced23Ric>
But I guess trans- things are harder. Different material. It's not ABS.
18:38
< Deathzero>
I'll have to get a trans axe blade some time to try
18:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh, wait.
18:38
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm just a girl.
18:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Tried it on a regular brick and it worked.
18:38
< Deathzero>
XD
18:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, my fingers are bleeding.
18:38
<@Ced23Ric>
B ut it worked.
18:39
< Deathzero>
o_o
18:39
<+afny>
For Ced: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg
18:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Ah, okay.
18:39
< Deathzero>
well at least you can say you put your blood and sweat into it
18:39
<@Ced23Ric>
I LOVE GWEN STEFANI.
18:39
<+afny>
not gonna lie I fucking love this song
18:39
< Deathzero>
XD @ afny
18:40
< Deathzero>
I'm listening to epic rap battles. o_O
18:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Dizzee: I think it's too small, actually.
18:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Now that I see it in front of me.
18:41
< Deathzero>
its supposed to be a 1d6 weapon, instead of having a bayonet on the gun.
18:41
<@Ced23Ric>
split/range ?
18:41
< Deathzero>
3d6 rifle with the 1d6 axe instead of a 2d6 rifle and 2d6 axe
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18:43
< Ceddobear>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onrJX8KtpVY
18:43
< Ceddobear>
I love this song.
18:43
< Ceddobear>
Volume to 11, and give 'er.
18:44
< Deathzero>
I can't find it at the moment but I'm positive I saw something in the rules about putting a bayonet on a rifle and making the rifle a 3d6 direct fire and the bayonet a 1d6 hth
18:44
< Ceddobear>
Yeah, totally works.
18:44
< Ceddobear>
For example, my Jackrabbits have Artillery like that.
18:44
< Ceddobear>
3d6 Arty, 1d6 DF.
18:45
< Deathzero>
I figured the small size of my axe would convey that pretty well.
18:45
< Ceddobear>
Massive rifle + pistol. :D
18:45
< Deathzero>
good, glad I wasnt wrong. lol.
18:45 Ced23Ric [Ced@Nightstar-b696fb1c.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds]
18:45
< Ceddobear>
Nah, you can split any weapon.
18:45
< Deathzero>
hmm, might have to implement that too. thanks for the idea
18:45
< Ceddobear>
A/H, D/H, A/D.
18:46
< Ceddobear>
A pretty cheesy way of doing 3d6 / 3d6 is a triple split system.
18:46
< Ceddobear>
But then you'd be doing 3 weapon systems, as in, waste 1.5 systems.
18:46
<+afny>
I use that a lot
18:46
<+afny>
I don't think it's bad because of opportunity cost
18:47
<+afny>
Ced, got the Peleus and Thetis totally remade
18:47
<+afny>
I'm glad you guilted me into redoing those frames because they're sweet
18:47
< Deathzero>
using that on an arty unit that'd be 2 arty weps and 2 df weps? o_O
18:47
<+afny>
gonna do the Ares and then I'll take pics
18:47
<+afny>
and I'll do the cybele later
18:47
<+afny>
might make it a quadraped again
18:48
< Deathzero>
wheres that dark red unit afny?! :D
18:48
<+afny>
dead forever
18:48
< Deathzero>
o_o well revive it!
18:48
< Ceddobear>
Dizzee: Nah, 1.5 each.
18:49
< Deathzero>
zombie frame!
18:49
< Ceddobear>
And Kev: Let me cite Darth Vader.
18:49 MittenNinja [MittenNinja@Nightstar-2c8b25e0.tmodns.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Bye]
18:49
< Ceddobear>
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
18:49
< Ceddobear>
Oh.
18:49
< Ceddobear>
Oh fuck.
18:49
< Ceddobear>
I could go insane.
18:49
<+afny>
what
18:49
<+afny>
WHAT
18:49
< Ceddobear>
And build my ritual site with 1x1 round tiles.
18:49
< Deathzero>
I'm trying to figure out how you'd do that loadout. Just count each arty as 1.5 systems and give it an extra d6?
18:50
< Ceddobear>
DZ: Nope.
18:50
< Ceddobear>
It's 3 weapon systems.
18:50
<+afny>
each system is two dice
18:50
<+afny>
one red direct
18:50
< Ceddobear>
Each of them is an A/D split.
18:50
<+afny>
one red arty
18:50
<+afny>
x3
18:50
< Deathzero>
both dice for the direct get split onto the 2 arty weps?
18:51
<+afny>
...no
18:51
<+afny>
three systems
18:51
<+afny>
each system is two dice
18:51
<+afny>
one of those dice is a direct range d6
18:51
<+afny>
one of those dice is an artillery range d6
18:51
<+afny>
it's up to you how you represent those on the frame, but the frame loses systems in groups of two dice
18:51
<+afny>
one DH and one A at a time.
18:53
< Deathzero>
oh, I think I got ya, I thought he was saying you'd get two 3d6 arty weps out of it. lmao. just completely misunderstood what he was saying.
18:54
< Ceddobear>
Nah, you get 3d6 A and 3d6 DF.
18:54
< Deathzero>
yea, now that I figured that out I understand it
18:54
< Ceddobear>
You can never get more than 2d6 +1d8. ^^
18:54
< Deathzero>
thats what I thought. its either 3d6 or 2d6+1d8
18:54
< Ceddobear>
Dizzee, you like rap?
18:55
< Deathzero>
some, I'm partial to old No Limit era.
18:55
< Ceddobear>
Let me give you something from South Africa. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_LpTLXVEY
18:55
< Deathzero>
o_o
18:56
< Deathzero>
XD this is fucked up.
18:57
< Ceddobear>
But I fink u freeky and I like you alot.
18:57
< Ceddobear>
Kevin: http://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/7418814328/in/photostream
18:58
< Deathzero>
i like it, and my son's dancing around to it. lol.
18:59
< Ceddobear>
Oh, it's great to dance to. :D
19:00
<+afny>
This picture was taken five years ago
19:01
< Ceddobear>
Wow.
19:01
< Ceddobear>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ftvgUaEJUs
19:01
<+afny>
handled very tactfully I think
19:01
< Ceddobear>
This is the first time I hear this song.
19:01
< Ceddobear>
Now many things make a lot more sense.
19:01
< Ceddobear>
Like, 25% of 9gag, for example.
19:02
< Ceddobear>
Oh.
19:02
< Ceddobear>
SURPRISE ENDING.
19:02
< Ceddobear>
WHO'DA THUNK.
19:03
< Deathzero>
a leo! lol thats really colorful
19:05
< Deathzero>
lmao @ ending
19:08
< Ceddobear>
It's so shocking!
19:08
< Ceddobear>
He's gay! D:
19:08
< Ceddobear>
All goodlooking single guys are! D:
19:09
< Deathzero>
Not this one....well I'm not single so...guess that ruins that. :P
19:09
< Ceddobear>
Well, and I also said goodlooking, I think. Let's not flatter ourselves too much here.
19:11
< Deathzero>
Psh, if I can't flatter myself then who will?
19:11
< Ceddobear>
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306984_480796475283144_2092 78437_n.jpg
19:11
< Ceddobear>
MOODKILLER. D:
19:14
< Deathzero>
totally.
19:15
< Ceddobear>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cOt9UcYGOU
19:15
< Ceddobear>
MOOD RAISER.
19:16
<+afny>
they're actually (maybe) going to posthumously pardon Turing
19:16
<+afny>
I mean, doesn't really make it any happier
19:17
< Deathzero>
thats kinda cool though
19:17
< Deathzero>
he deserves it at least.
19:17
< Deathzero>
o_o CONNECT FOUR!
19:18
< Ceddobear>
:D
19:18
< Ceddobear>
Oh, Kev.
19:18
< Ceddobear>
Have you seen Ironsniper's sniper rifles?
19:19
< Deathzero>
thats a lot of stop motion.
19:19
< Ceddobear>
I think it's computer-animated.
19:20
<+afny>
not all of them
19:20
<+afny>
I've seen some of his guns
19:20
< Ceddobear>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ironweasel/7416698548/in/pool-438009@N25
19:21
< Ceddobear>
Those two, specifically.
19:21
<+afny>
yeah, I LOVE the lightsaber handle scope
19:21
<+afny>
I have to get some of those
19:21
< Deathzero>
O_o thats a beam rifle!
19:21
< Ceddobear>
There's no lightsaber handle in there.
19:21 MoF0-8163 [rsbdnvbwein@Nightstar-da7fffe9.ma.comcast.net] has joined #mf0
19:21
<+afny>
and whatever that actual gun shaped thing is
19:21
<+afny>
oh, uh
19:21
<+afny>
telescope maybe?
19:21
< Ceddobear>
Yeah.
19:21
<+afny>
I don't know what a lightsaber handle looks like
19:21
< Ceddobear>
Also: Those rifles SUCK.
19:21
<+afny>
the little things?
19:22
< Ceddobear>
The bipod is about as stable as Reactor 4 in Chernobyl in the winter of '86.
19:22
<+afny>
oh, but I do have some of those cups in old grey
19:22
<+afny>
hrhrhrmm.
19:22
< Deathzero>
lol.
19:22
< Ceddobear>
And the muzzle break is so tight on there, you could throw a salami into an empty wine barrel, it would have as much friction.
19:22 MoF0-8163 is now known as Mantisking
19:23
< Mantisking>
Hey.
19:23
< Deathzero>
yo
19:23
< Ceddobear>
I treid rebuilding them, and those connections LOOK good.
19:23
< Ceddobear>
But are UBER-floppy.
19:23
< Ceddobear>
Almost like Canadian heads.
19:23
< Deathzero>
aww :/
19:23
< Ceddobear>
Heya MK.
19:23
< Deathzero>
lmao
19:24
<+afny>
o/ Mantis
19:24
< Mantisking>
How's everyone doing?
19:24
<+afny>
well, these are about ready to take pictures of...one of the guns is...a LITTLE too large
19:24
< Ceddobear>
TFGIFF, MK. :D
19:25
< Deathzero>
I'm doin good, just put my son down for a nap, so now I've got some peace and quiet round here.
19:25
< Ceddobear>
HE PUT HIS SON DOWN.
19:25
< Ceddobear>
HE BROKE HIS LEG.
19:25
< Ceddobear>
LIFE IS TOUGH.
19:25
< Deathzero>
XD
19:25
< Mantisking>
No shit. I got out of work early after racking up some overtime this week.
19:26
< Deathzero>
extra money=wooo
19:26
< Ceddobear>
MK: I farewelled my boss, for the next three weeks, I am running the system maintenance department.
19:26
< Mantisking>
Nice.
19:26
< Ceddobear>
Which is KINDA scary, in a way.
19:26
< Ceddobear>
I mean, I am still in probation period, I'm there for three months and some ...
19:27
< Ceddobear>
And it is the Federal Ministry of Health, after all.
19:27
< Mantisking>
My GF is leaving tomorrow for a two week trip to Italy.
19:27
< Deathzero>
btw, afny http://www.flickr.com/photos/deathzero/7420291552/in/photostream/ thats a lightsaber handle(the silver part)
19:27
< Ceddobear>
Oh, good for her! :)
19:27
< Mantisking>
Yup.
19:27
< Ceddobear>
Italy is nice around these days.
19:27
< Deathzero>
o_O mines leaving for a week come the fourth of july.
19:28
< Deathzero>
party! :D
19:28
< Mantisking>
I've got a couple of guy's nights out lined up.
19:28
< Mantisking>
That and I hope a lot of MFZ.
19:28
< Deathzero>
awesome
19:30
< Deathzero>
btw, I'm lookin forward to meetin you and whoever else shows up at Gencon.
19:31
< Deathzero>
before I was just semi-excited for Gencon, now I'm stoked since I know there will be an MFZ presense.
19:31
< Mantisking>
I have no idea if I'll make it.
19:32
< Mantisking>
Like Ced, I'm in a probationary period at work.
19:32
< Mantisking>
It sounds like they want to hire me permanently, but I have no idea what my benefits will be like if they do.
19:33
< Deathzero>
Ah, well, I'm gonna hope that ya make it.
19:34
< Mantisking>
I really want to go.
19:34
< Mantisking>
It'd be great to play MFZ with some people from the Hangar in person.
19:35
< Deathzero>
Totally, only people I have around here to play with right now are a friend that I've taught and his kids.
19:35
< Deathzero>
and his kids are more into stealing my frames than building their own. lol
19:37
< Mantisking>
Make them some for Christmas.
19:37
< Deathzero>
I planned on putting a couple chubs together for their birthdays.
19:37
< Mantisking>
That works too.
19:37
< Deathzero>
figured I'd get the parts together, print out instructions, and give it to em as a kit.
19:38
< Ceddobear>
Man, sometimes when I'm building, I am like that dog.
19:38
< Mantisking>
Great idea.
19:38
< Ceddobear>
I have no idea what I'm doing.
19:38
< Mantisking>
Woof?
19:38
< Deathzero>
I never have any idea what I'm doing.
19:38
< Deathzero>
:D
19:38
< Ceddobear>
I just built a rifle.
19:39
< Ceddobear>
It kinda looks like it could cut a rock.
19:39
< Ceddobear>
I have no idea where it came from.
19:39
< Ceddobear>
But it has a scope.
19:39
< Deathzero>
o_O picture!
19:39 * Ceddobear scratches his head.
19:40
< Ceddobear>
I don't even think I have a 'frame that could hold it.
19:40
< Deathzero>
theres your next project then, a frame that can hold it
19:41
< Ceddobear>
Mhmm.
19:41
< Ceddobear>
Righthand rifle, bolt action to the right, eh?
19:43
< Deathzero>
o_O if its being held in the right hand wouldn't you want the bolt to the left?
19:43
< Ceddobear>
No, you have your left hand at the front, cheek on the butt.
19:43
< Deathzero>
nm
19:43
< Deathzero>
yea, just thought about that.
19:43
< Deathzero>
had to get out my nerf rifle
19:43
< Ceddobear>
After the shot, take it down, firing hand goes up, pulls bolt back, slams it forth, reassumes firing position.
19:44
< Ceddobear>
Heh.
19:44
< Deathzero>
yea, I was thinking operate the bolt with left hand, but then you have to re-aim everytime so yea, I was wrong there.
19:44
< Ceddobear>
This rifle is as big as my last. ^^
19:44
< Deathzero>
still waiting to see it :P
19:45
< Ceddobear>
Lemme see whether I can at least make a Chub hold it. :D
19:45
< Ceddobear>
This needs some color.
19:47
<+afny>
my pics are done
19:47
<+afny>
must
19:47
<+afny>
PUT THEM ON HARD DISK
19:47
<+afny>
HEY it read on the first try
19:47
< Deathzero>
o_O
19:47
<+afny>
this NEVER happens.
19:48
< Deathzero>
sd card?
19:48
<+afny>
and if it does
19:48
<+afny>
I inevitably forgot to adjust the white balance
19:48
<+afny>
BUT NOT TODAY
19:50
< Ceddobear>
OH FUCK ME
19:50
< Deathzero>
yea, I forgot to adjust the pics I uploaded earlier. :/
19:50
< Ceddobear>
IT WORKS.
19:50
< Ceddobear>
IT WORKS AND LOOKS WICKED.
19:50
< Ceddobear>
BAHAHAHAHAHA.
19:50
< Deathzero>
sweet! pics, now!
19:50
< Ceddobear>
:D
19:50
< Ceddobear>
You would really like that, eh?
19:50 * Ceddobear is such a tease!
19:50
< Deathzero>
lol.
19:51
< Ceddobear>
Gimme a sec.
19:51
< Deathzero>
Ah, I'm so glad I started coming in here. I've missed having a good chat to goto.
19:51
< Ceddobear>
Heh.
19:51
< Deathzero>
you guys are great.
19:51
<+afny>
Ced, here's the mods to the apollo
19:51
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Apollo%20-%20Mod1.JPG
19:51
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Apollo%20-%20Mod1%20back.JPG
19:51
< Ceddobear>
We are the creative (and morally questionable) powerhub of the forums.
19:52
<+afny>
it's much better now
19:52
< Deathzero>
nice!
19:52
< Ceddobear>
THE FLOWER.
19:52
< Deathzero>
yellow flower!
19:52
<+afny>
it really needed that
19:52
< Deathzero>
so it shoots fireballs with its flower power, correct?
19:52
< Deathzero>
:P
19:52
< Ceddobear>
The SMG is so neat.
19:52
<+afny>
nah, it's YY
19:52
<+afny>
And here's the Peleus, Ares, and Thetis
19:52
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/P2%2C%20A2%2C%20T2.JPG
19:52
< Mantisking>
So that's what the pistol looks like underneath.
19:52
<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/P2%2C%20A2%2C%20T2%20-%20back.JPG
19:52
< Ceddobear>
Last time I tried to build an SMG like that, it became a sub-carbine.
19:53
< Deathzero>
I like that gun.
19:53
< Ceddobear>
Dafuq, Kevin.
19:53
< Ceddobear>
The guy on the left looks like he is breakdancing.
19:53
< Ceddobear>
WITH HIS ENTIRE BODY.
19:53
<+afny>
he's kneeling, but the lightbox is on a slope so he's kinda...
19:53
<+afny>
not hitting the ground yet
19:53
<+afny>
it looks normal on a flat surface, I swear
19:54
< Ceddobear>
I believe you.
19:54
< Ceddobear>
For now.
19:54
< Deathzero>
XD @ ced
19:54
< Deathzero>
interesting legs on the red guy
19:54
< Deathzero>
reminds me of a frog kinda.
19:54
< Deathzero>
I like it.
19:55
< Deathzero>
I guess they all use the same legs. o_O
19:55
< Deathzero>
stood out more to me on the red one.
19:55
< Mantisking>
Which reminds me, I should take a few pictures before the GF leaves with the camera.
19:55
< Ceddobear>
They were extras in Brokeback Mountain.
19:55
< Deathzero>
XD
19:55
<+afny>
if either of the characters got laid that many times
19:55
< Ceddobear>
:D
19:55
<+afny>
I think that movie may have been different around the middle
19:56
<+afny>
hm, I think I'm going to add plate clips
19:56
<+afny>
on the front of the bar plates on the legs
19:56
< Ceddobear>
You know, my favourite part was that senator.
19:56
< Ceddobear>
Romney, I think.
19:56
<+afny>
yeah, I'm definitely doing that
19:56
< Ceddobear>
"Do you really want gay people to defend our country?"
19:56
< Ceddobear>
That spot.
19:56
< Ceddobear>
Remember it?
19:56
< Ceddobear>
He is wearing exactly the same fucking thing as Heath Ledger in BBM.
19:56
<+afny>
he's said so many things in that vein
19:57
< Deathzero>
yar.
19:57
< Mantisking>
He was once the govenor of my state.
19:57
< Ceddobear>
http://partyhardpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/enhanced-buzz-31587-1323 365516-12.jpg
19:57
< Ceddobear>
Here.
19:57
< Ceddobear>
RICK PERRY.
19:57
< Ceddobear>
That guy.
19:57
< Deathzero>
I don't care who is defending my country, long as they're willing to put their life on the line thats good enough.
19:58
< Deathzero>
...the guy on the right...is that the sparkly vampire douche?
19:58
< Ceddobear>
That Perry guy was all like: "MAN AND WOMAN ARE HEART, ERRYTING ELSE IS EVUL."
19:58
< Ceddobear>
Nah, the guy o nthe right is Jake Gyllenhal.
19:58
< Ceddobear>
We like that guy.
19:58
< Ceddobear>
He makes good movies.
19:58
< Deathzero>
looks kinda like the sparkly vampire.
19:58
< Ceddobear>
Nah.
19:58
< Ceddobear>
He played in ... fuck, forgot.
19:58
< Ceddobear>
He's a downed helicopter pilot traveling through TIME.
19:59
< Deathzero>
sweet.
19:59
< Ceddobear>
Anyway, Jake is cool.
19:59 * Ceddobear uploads rifle pictures.
20:00
< Deathzero>
Yea, I looked up who the sparkly douche was, Robert Patterson or something like that.
20:00
< Ceddobear>
I can't stop listening to this Call Me Maybe bullshit.
20:00
< Ceddobear>
Ah, yeah.
20:00
< Deathzero>
ha.
20:00
< Ceddobear>
Funnily enough, he ruined his career like that.
20:00
< Ceddobear>
Before, he made some okay stuff. Had potential.
20:00
< Ceddobear>
Now he's gonna be "that vampire guy" forever.
20:01
< Mantisking>
Patterson? The guys got freaky looking eyes.
20:01
< Deathzero>
not just "that vampire guy" he'll be "thats sparkly vampire douche"
20:01
< Deathzero>
thats-s
20:01
< Deathzero>
here maybe this will help you get off that Call Me Maybe song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUMCIn2swTU
20:01
< Ceddobear>
No, dude.
20:02
< Ceddobear>
This is my new Kelly Clarkson.
20:02
< Deathzero>
....meh.
20:02
< Deathzero>
Hate that chick.
20:02
< Ceddobear>
Her first album was fucking great. :D
20:02
< Ceddobear>
I still growl/scream along to it whenever a song comes up.
20:03
< Deathzero>
I've not liked any of the singers that have come from American Idol.
20:03
< Ceddobear>
SINCE YOU BEEN GONE! *growls like being a part of Cannibal Corpse is a favourite past time*
20:03
< Ceddobear>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/rifle_b1.png
20:03
< Ceddobear>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/rifle_b2.png
20:03
< Ceddobear>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/rifle_b3.png
20:03
< Deathzero>
sweet!
20:04
< Ceddobear>
The evening sun gently plays with his contours.
20:04
< Ceddobear>
I should write some 'frame on 'frame smut.
20:04
< Deathzero>
o_O I'd call that part with the hose an underslung flamethrower.
20:04
< Ceddobear>
:D
20:04
< Deathzero>
lol.
20:05
< Ceddobear>
"With great vigor, he rammed his fuel injector into her tank opening. As her intake levels rose, a shiver went through her muscle cylinders."
20:05
< Deathzero>
....transformer porn! o_o
20:05
< Ceddobear>
:D
20:05
<+afny>
I like this gun actually
20:05
<+afny>
although the front looks like an rpg
20:05
< Deathzero>
she could feel him deep in her spark o_O
20:06
<+afny>
just make the muzzle end where the 1x1 round on the underpart ends
20:06
<+afny>
and man, what
20:06
<+afny>
Transformers MUST produce sexually, right?
20:06
<+afny>
reproduce*
20:06
< Deathzero>
XD
20:06
<+afny>
like, they don't just get built
20:07
< Deathzero>
totally, why you think bumblebee was always so much smaller than the others, he's still a kid! XD
20:07
<+afny>
Beast Wars just raises further questions
20:07
< Deathzero>
beast wars was a tangled mess. o_o
20:08
<+afny>
well so is every Transformers related story line ever
20:08
<+afny>
I mean let's be honest.
20:08
< Deathzero>
yea yea, least G1 was linear about it though. Beast Wars had to bring in time travel and shit.
20:12
< Deathzero>
btw, ced, I could totally see that rifle occupying 3 systems as a 3d6 artillery sniper rifle, a 1d6 direct fire underslung flamethrower, and then its got a scope.
20:12
< Deathzero>
I might have to appropriate that. >_>
20:14
< Mantisking>
That is a nice looking rifle.
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< Ceddobear>
Here.
20:15
< Ceddobear>
Have some Rihanna-cover swing music from Germany.
20:15
< Ceddobear>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sestSq6hRHI
20:16
< Ceddobear>
I have decided it's the weekend now.
20:16
< Ceddobear>
And it's also time to put on pants again.
20:16
< Deathzero>
lol.
20:16
<+afny>
Wait what
20:16
<+afny>
most people take their pants OFF on the weekend
20:16
<+afny>
I feel like Germany has got it RIGHT.
20:17
< Ceddobear>
No, I went for a nap.
20:17
< Ceddobear>
And then I got up again.
20:18
< Ceddobear>
PANTSLESS.
20:18
< Ceddobear>
And I realized, as I started dancing in the kitchen, that I MIGHT put some back on.
20:18
< Deathzero>
I don't need to know about you being pantsless
20:18
< Ceddobear>
I mean, my roomie don't care.
20:18
< Deathzero>
thats not a visual I wanted.
20:18
< Deathzero>
lol.
20:18
< Ceddobear>
But still.
20:19
< Ceddobear>
The Baseballs are hilarious.
20:19
< Ceddobear>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ej_-Y2kac
20:19
< Deathzero>
btw, the only part of my family that I can really trace comes from Germany.
20:19
< Mantisking>
Dude, that ain't Swing.
20:19
< Mantisking>
It's Rockabilly.
20:19
< Deathzero>
I like it.
20:20
< Ceddobear>
Sorry, I got confused.
20:20
< Mantisking>
Oh, don't get me wrong, it's fun.
20:20
< Mantisking>
Swing generally involves a big band type sound.
20:21
< Deathzero>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8qGa4Yh2qs
20:22
< Ceddobear>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOileTyIPHY <-- Hilarity. The original by Scissor Sister was already great.
20:22
< Mantisking>
there we go!
20:23
< Ceddobear>
Yeah, true. Big Band it is.
20:23
< Ceddobear>
Hit the Road jack, eh?
20:23
< Deathzero>
:D
20:23
< Deathzero>
hey, what you guys think, should I replace the grey clips on this with blue or white
20:23
< Deathzero>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deathzero/7420496104/in/photostream
20:24
< Deathzero>
I've got both on the way, I think the blue might make it be too much blue where I'm still wanting it to show a good bit of white.
20:24
< Mantisking>
Commented.
20:25
< Deathzero>
lol.
20:25
< Mantisking>
I really need to get me some of those 1x1 round plates.
20:25
< Deathzero>
I'm running really low.
20:25
< Deathzero>
I need to get some more as well.
20:25
< Mantisking>
I have none.
20:26
< Mantisking>
How do people feel about the Ninjago line ending this year?
20:26
< Deathzero>
:/
20:26
< Ceddobear>
Brick Link never dies.
20:26
< Ceddobear>
Unless it gets hacks.
20:26
< Ceddobear>
*hacked
20:26
< Ceddobear>
Then it kinda goes comatose.
20:26
< Deathzero>
eh, it had some unique peices.
20:26
< Ceddobear>
The pieces are still available.
20:26
< Ceddobear>
Don't cry.
20:26
<+afny>
I haven't seen a piece from it yet that looked good except for the
20:27
<+afny>
REVERSE 2x2 TILE
20:27
< Mantisking>
What?
20:27
<+afny>
Well it's a
20:27
<+afny>
REVERSE 2x2 TILE
20:27
<+afny>
and I'm pretty sure it was from a ninjago set, but it might've been from...
20:27
<+afny>
some other newer set
20:27
< Ceddobear>
What?
20:27
< Ceddobear>
What it do?
20:27
< Deathzero>
find it on bricklink and show us. o_O
20:27
<+afny>
it's like
20:27
<+afny>
a 2x2 tile
20:28
<+afny>
but reversed
20:28
< Ceddobear>
Also: Fallout 3 music playlist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkhFoxwJsD4&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list= PL82ABC20BB0611548
20:28
<+afny>
and NO.
20:28
< Ceddobear>
With studs on top?
20:28
<+afny>
yea
20:28
< Mantisking>
So it's a 2x2 plate.
20:28
<+afny>
it's a tile
20:28
< Ceddobear>
But no stud openings on the bottom.
20:28
< Deathzero>
I think I understand what he's saying, Its a flate tile on one side and studs on the other side
20:28
<+afny>
it's smooth on one side studs on the other
20:28
<+afny>
it's a REVERSE 2x2 TILE
20:29
< Deathzero>
I could think of some good uses for reverse tile's
20:31
< Mantisking>
I wish this came in other colors. http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=88289
20:32
<+afny>
bricklink tells me I have one new message
20:32
<+afny>
I am not logged in.
20:32
< Deathzero>
It knoooooows o_o
20:32
<+afny>
CED
20:32
<+afny>
should the Cybele be a quad
20:32
<+afny>
or a biped
20:32
< Ceddobear>
Biped if Chub head.
20:32
< Ceddobear>
Quad if not.
20:32
<+afny>
well I'm not committed to the chub head really
20:32
<+afny>
I'm not sure
20:33
<+afny>
hm
20:33
<+afny>
I don't think I have enough white for a cool scrambler base
20:33
<+afny>
if I want to keep it mostly white
20:33
<+afny>
so biped it is
20:33
< Deathzero>
I'm partial to biped's
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20:34
< Deathzero>
though I do have one of mantis's crabs sittin here.
20:34
<+afny>
this company has three reverse knee
20:34
<+afny>
and five normal kneed bipeds
20:35
< Deathzero>
chicken walkers! :D
20:35
< Mantisking>
You built a copy of my Crab Mech?!?
20:36
<+afny>
the digitigrade isn't that noticeable, they have bulky legs
20:36
< Deathzero>
yea, the little ones you put on your blog
20:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Kevin.
20:36
< Deathzero>
I built one of em just to mess around with.
20:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Are you maybe hallucinating?
20:36
< Deathzero>
he sits on my desk.
20:36
<@Ced23Ric>
BL doesn't know any reverse tiles.
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20:36
< Mantisking>
Cool! Could you post them to your Flickr account?
20:37
< Mantisking>
It'll get me one step closer to being on Zeekhotep's "List".
20:37
< Deathzero>
them, its just 1, but yea I'll take a pic of it.
20:37
< Mantisking>
Sweet!
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<+afny>
nah Ced, I saw it on the lego techniques flikr
20:39
<@Ceddobear>
Yeah, sure.
20:39
<+afny>
also, dude
20:39
<+afny>
Mantis
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<+afny>
I realized that there WAS an extra 1x1 tile in the Apollo's torso
20:40
< Ced|Rage>
What the TITS. Urgh. My Internet keeps dying.
20:40
<+afny>
that made its head one plate higher
20:40
<+afny>
and it COULD be removed
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<+afny>
so now it's tighter
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20:40
<+afny>
so your comment on flikr was right on
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< Mantisking>
Oh, cool. Glad to help.
20:41
<+afny>
I was sure it was exactly the same as the Nike
20:41
<+afny>
and I was like...nah, there's NO space in there
20:41
<+afny>
but I forgot I was trying to accommodate a different head earlier
20:41
<+afny>
and I never went back and took out the spacer for it
20:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh what the dick.
20:45
<@Ced23Ric>
I am about to murder an endangered panda cub.
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20:46
< Deathzero>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deathzero/7421558208/in/photostream bam, crab mech!
20:50
< Mantisking>
Faved!
20:50
< Deathzero>
awesome!
20:51
< Mantisking>
You should post one picture of each of the mechs you built to the MFZ Flickr group.
20:51
< Deathzero>
glad you approve of it.
20:51
< Deathzero>
I'll do that, thanks
20:52
<+afny>
(or three pictures of each)
20:52
<+afny>
(like a boss)
20:52
< Mantisking>
Be kind and don't spam the group.
20:53
<+afny>
(like a boss)
20:53
< Deathzero>
lol
20:53
< Deathzero>
soon as I figure out how I'll do one of each.
20:53
< Mantisking>
There's an unofficial rule of one pic for each mech.
20:53
<+afny>
But no one enforces it (like a boss)
20:53
< Mantisking>
Cool.
20:53
<+afny>
Bosses are cool.
20:53
< Mantisking>
{* sigh *}
20:54
< Deathzero>
figured out how :D
20:55
< Mantisking>
I would make a minor change on the CM. I'd make that bottom 2x4 plate Light Bley.
20:56
< Deathzero>
the blue one on the bottom?
20:57
< Mantisking>
Yup.
20:58
< Mantisking>
Fun terrain? http://www.flickr.com/photos/43266097@N03/7411565234/in/pool-toysnbrickscom/
20:58
< Deathzero>
ah, thats actually a 2x3 with a light bley 1x2 in front of it, I can just switch their positions.
20:58
< Mantisking>
That works.
20:59
< Deathzero>
done. I'm not gonna take a new pic right now though.
20:59
< Deathzero>
oh son's waking up, back in a few.
20:59
< Mantisking>
No prob.
20:59
< Mantisking>
I try and keep colors contiguous. http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=493145
20:59
< Mantisking>
But that's just me.
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< Mantisking>
Thought I scared you away there for a second.
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/80508136@N03/7383752354/in/pool-438009@N25/
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Kchchchch.
21:01
<+afny>
oh god
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Whoever allowed me to make anotations on FlickR...
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
... will regret it now.
21:01
<+afny>
admiral ackbar is watching Greg's game
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
WHAT.
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Were?
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
+g
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
+h
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
-g
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
DAMNIT.
21:01
<+afny>
I thought for SURE that's what your tag was going to be
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
FUCK.
21:01
<+afny>
you literally put a note right around ackbar
21:02
<@Ced23Ric>
I SEE IT NOW.
21:02
<@Ced23Ric>
D:
21:02
<+afny>
Your comment has more mass appeal
21:02
<+afny>
I just thought it was funny
21:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Fixed.
21:03
<+afny>
Yes.
21:04
< DeathZero>
lmao
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21:11
<@Ced23Ric>
UEFA European Championships?
21:12
<@Ced23Ric>
Germany plays Greece right now.
21:12
< DeathZero>
ah
21:12
<@Ced23Ric>
And since Greece is financially bust and Germany one of the biggest helpers, there's tension in the air.
21:12
<@Ced23Ric>
As in, Germany loathes the Greeks for being fuckwads.
21:12
< DeathZero>
From what I hear, everyone does.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Greece pretty much blew all their money, is uber corrupted, and stopped taking in taxes.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
So the EU stepped in and helped out.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Which Greece answered by drawing Nazi pictures of Germany's governemnt.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
IN THEIR MAIN NEWSPAPERS.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
So yeah.
21:13
< DeathZero>
o_o
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
We no rikey the Greek these days.
21:13
< DeathZero>
did not hear about that one.
21:13
< DeathZero>
I suppose not.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
WHAM.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
3:1.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Greece is sent packing.
21:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Only know the score from the fireworks outside. :D
21:14
< DeathZero>
awesome
21:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Every goal means about 2 minutes of rockets and crackers. ^^
21:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, Germany plays shitty soccer.
21:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, we play ... technical. Mechanical.
21:14
<@Ced23Ric>
But not beautiful.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
It's so awfully efficient and yet boring. ^^
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
But hey, it's what we do.
21:15
< DeathZero>
lol.
21:15
< DeathZero>
boring is how I feel about watching most sports.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
You'll never see a German soccer player prance around or dance on the field.
21:15
< DeathZero>
XD
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
They trodd, until they have to sprint, when they do, they stop as soon as they can.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Very energy efficient.
21:16
<@Ced23Ric>
But boring as hell. :D
21:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, I play paintball.
21:16
<@Ced23Ric>
And even WATCHING paintball is boring to me.
21:16
< DeathZero>
heh
21:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Also, I spent almost 8 years doing outside broadcasting of sport events.
21:16
<@Ced23Ric>
I had my share, thanks. ^^
21:17
< DeathZero>
:P
21:17
< DeathZero>
o_o I want to build a megazord frame.
21:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Ask Commander6247375936486936384904.
21:18
< DeathZero>
O_o
21:18
<@Ced23Ric>
I am sure he has one built, 20 years ago, from the first Lego firetruck set. :D
21:18
< DeathZero>
:P I'd have to come up with my own on that.
21:19
<@Ced23Ric>
This guy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/7418814076/in/pool-438009@N25/
21:19
< DeathZero>
But building it within mfz scale would be hard.
21:19
<@Ced23Ric>
He's an artist.
21:19
<@Ced23Ric>
LOL
21:19
< DeathZero>
lol
21:19
<+afny>
he was an artist 5 years ago
21:19
<@Ced23Ric>
WHAT THE DICK.
21:19
<@Ced23Ric>
4 : 1
21:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Greece is getting fucking raped. :D
21:20
<@Ced23Ric>
1/3 of the German team has now scored a goal.
21:20
<@Ced23Ric>
TIME FOR THE GOALIE TO TAKE A SHOT.
21:20
< DeathZero>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/7374769746/in/photostream/ his dom looks pretty good.
21:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Seen way better. :/
21:21
< DeathZero>
yea, I've seen better as well, but its not bad.
21:23
< DeathZero>
Hmm, I'll have to go get my megazord out.
21:23
< DeathZero>
meh, I'll do it later.
21:23
< DeathZero>
Its almost time for D&D
21:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Time to charge that peasant railgun.
21:24
< DeathZero>
o_O
21:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Wait.
21:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Do you NOT know?
21:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Okay.
21:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Let me break you in.
21:26
<@Ced23Ric>
You take a buttload of peasants.
21:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Set them up in a straight line.
21:26
< DeathZero>
o_o I like where I think this is going.
21:27
<@Ced23Ric>
The line is where you fire, so aim them at your target.
21:27
<@Ced23Ric>
The last peasant in line gets a metal rod.
21:27
<@Ced23Ric>
The first peasant prepares an action: If he gets passed an item, hurl it forward.
21:28
<@Ced23Ric>
The last peasant passes the rod to the second to last. The second to last passes it on. And so on.
21:28
< Mantisking>
I'm going to step outside and take some pictures.
21:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Since passing an item is a movement action, it cane be done in one round.
21:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Since they all prepared actions to pass, it takes one round - or ~six seconds - to move the rod from the last peasant to the first.
21:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Make the row of peasants long enough so the rod reaches supersonic speed.
21:29
< DeathZero>
lol.
21:29
<@Ced23Ric>
As the rod is passed and hurled, your peasant railgun now fires supersonic metal rods.
21:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Reloading only takes one round.
21:29
<@Ced23Ric>
AIMING may take longer.
21:29
<@Ced23Ric>
:D
21:29
< DeathZero>
XD
21:29
< DeathZero>
I think my DM would shoot that down.
21:29
<@Ced23Ric>
It's hilarious.
21:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh, and there was a level 2 character that had better attributes than all gods combined, too.
21:30
< DeathZero>
theres a picture that circulates the net of an arrow with a bag of holding in it, caption says "this is why engineers shouldn't play d&d"
21:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Or a Ranger that can oneshot Orcus.
21:30
< DeathZero>
I tried to make it in game and he shot me down.
21:31
<@Ced23Ric>
What does that do?
21:31
< DeathZero>
it was set up so that when the arrow hit something a portable hole would be pushed into a bag of holding.
21:31
< DeathZero>
bam 10 ft radius of fuck you.
21:31
<@Ced23Ric>
What.
21:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Like a singularity bomb? :D
21:31
< DeathZero>
let me find the pic.
21:32
< DeathZero>
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?620520-Engineers-Shouldn-t-Play-D-amp-D
21:33
< DeathZero>
>_>
21:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Bahahahaha.
21:33
<@Ced23Ric>
This is awesome.
21:33
<@Ced23Ric>
*saves image*
21:33
< DeathZero>
I tried to make that, he didn't like it
21:33
< DeathZero>
started citing aerodynamics laws and shit.\
21:34
< DeathZero>
:/
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Fuck that guy!
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
PEASANT RAILGUN!
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
:D
21:34
< DeathZero>
XD
21:34
< DeathZero>
this isn't the same DM I was talking about earlier
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
OH FUCK.
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Greece scored.
21:34
< DeathZero>
this is a different d&d group I play with.
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
4 : 2
21:34
< DeathZero>
lol. they comin back!
21:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah.
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
The game is over. :D
21:35
< DeathZero>
good.
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
90 mins play time in total, + a little extra.
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
We are in minute 91. ^^
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
They got a penalty shot in.
21:35
< DeathZero>
anyways, this D&D group is a bunch of dungeon crawlers, they're not roleplayers like I am.
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh.
21:35
< DeathZero>
nice, sounds like that was their last hurrah then
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
They play what I call "Northern American" D&D, eh?
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Aka, Hack & Slay. ^^
21:36
< DeathZero>
yep
21:36
< DeathZero>
I've still got a group of roleplayers that I game with
21:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, I'm a roleplayer, not a rollplayer, too.
21:36
< DeathZero>
but its nice to just have some hack and slash sometimes
21:36
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, I am also probably the most powergamey player in our group.
21:37
<@Ced23Ric>
But I RP more than I slash.
21:37
< DeathZero>
yea, I'm definitely the big power gamer in this group.
21:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Our knightey-exalted group played castle tycoon in Cormyr. :D
21:37
< DeathZero>
I started rping like 15 years go in yahoo chat, gundam stuff, one post would be multiple paragraphs.
21:38
< DeathZero>
lol, sounds fun
21:38
<@Ced23Ric>
"We need 20 goats, 2 herders, 1 smith, 15 guards, 3 chamber maids ... make them pretty."
21:38
<@Ced23Ric>
"What about whores?"
21:38
<@Ced23Ric>
"Shut up, Gerbrandt, we're ambassadors of the queen regent."
21:38
<@Ced23Ric>
"Oh, right."
21:38
< DeathZero>
lol.
21:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Or, an epic conversation on the ramparts.
21:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Gerbrandt: "You know, Eran ... this castle is growing well. And with the recent reinforcements, it is also safe. I think, it is time to invite female company."
21:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Eran: "Oh, brave Sir Gerbrandt, do you carry yourself with the wish for holy marriage under the watchful eyes of the gods?"
21:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Gerbrandt: "Whores, Eran. I am talking about whores."
21:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Eran: "Oh, right."
21:40
< DeathZero>
XD
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
After we got anointed and appointed defenders of the north, we went to party.
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Gerbrandt went to a whore house.
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
It was his shtick. :D
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
It was never played out, mind you.
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
But it was too funny.
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
My character, Eran, was more Paladin than a Paladin.
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Fighter/Knight/Sword of Righteousness/Purple Knight Dragon.
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Had the exalted Nimbus of Light feat series.
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
He literally had Celestial Light come out of his ass.
21:42
< DeathZero>
nice
21:43
<@Ced23Ric>
Gerbrandt was a LN Fighter/Chevalier, simple background.
21:43
<@Ced23Ric>
He just wanted the Knight's title for the title's sake. :D
21:43
< DeathZero>
Ha.
21:43
< DeathZero>
I did that.
21:43
<@Ced23Ric>
And Gerbrandt somehow ended up being our leader, with Eran as his aide. :D
21:43
<@Ced23Ric>
So in the end, Eran was all "BUT THE HUMANITY AND HEAVENS!"
21:43
<@Ced23Ric>
And Gerbrandt: "Yeah, but look at the cash and tits, dude."
21:44
<@Ced23Ric>
That conflict was hilarity, pure.
21:44
< DeathZero>
I had a Bard/Swashbuckler Sorcerer/Planeshifter that was a knight >_>
21:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Game's over.
21:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Germany sent Greece home, 4:2.
21:44
< DeathZero>
He was a male whore, but he founded his own Knightly order.
21:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Greece is done.
21:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Ha!
21:44
< DeathZero>
nice.
21:44
< DeathZero>
the Order of the Rose <_<
21:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Sune!
21:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Mantisking: Heh, nice.
21:45
<@Ced23Ric>
You look like you wrestle grizzlies when you're not building crab mecha.
21:45
< DeathZero>
O_o me?
21:45
<@Ced23Ric>
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/Mantisking/Mecha021.jpg <--I love this picture.
21:46
< DeathZero>
ah, is that mantis?
21:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Dunno, Dizzee. Is Mantisking your alter ego? :D
21:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Yupp.
21:46
< DeathZero>
totally looks like he wrestles grizzlies
21:46
<@Ced23Ric>
That picture is great. It's all like "Alright guys, I got this. The halfpin goes here, then you strangle a wild coyote with its tail, and boom, you got your first MFZ 'frame."
21:47
< DeathZero>
XD
21:47
<+afny>
I must say he photographs well
21:48
<@Ced23Ric>
As in, the pictures he takes, or the pictures taken of him?
21:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Kevin? :(
21:48
<+afny>
What I mean to say is
21:48
<+afny>
hot.
21:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Is it bad that I want to build another Superchub compay?
21:48
<+afny>
HOW MANY IS THAT
21:48
<@Ced23Ric>
THE THIRD.
21:48
<+afny>
what
21:48
<+afny>
DO THEY DO
21:49
<@Ced23Ric>
SHOOT THINGS, I GUESS.
21:49
<+afny>
what about your red angry ones
21:49
<@Ced23Ric>
THOSE COULD BE THOSE.
21:49
<+afny>
UHHH
21:49
<+afny>
are they ANGRY MARINES
21:49
<@Ced23Ric>
NO.
21:49
<+afny>
GOOD.
21:49
< DeathZero>
o-o
21:49
<+afny>
If you make a group of red superchubs
21:49
<@Ced23Ric>
THEY ARE MORE LIKE KHORNE BERZERKERS. ON THEIR PERIOD.
21:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Yes?
21:49
<+afny>
you should make them super hardcore TEM
21:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Truth.
21:49
< DeathZero>
o_o no!
21:50
< DeathZero>
Bad Chaos!
21:50
< DeathZero>
All must be for the Emperor!
21:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Dizzee: Don't worry.
21:50
<+afny>
But
21:50
<+afny>
you must
21:50
<@Ced23Ric>
I am a stout Ordo Malleus Inquisitor. :D
21:50
<+afny>
give them Gs
21:50
< DeathZero>
Very good sir.
21:50
<+afny>
and give them SPACE COMBAT gear
21:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev: They will have Heathawks and Pistols.
21:50
<@Ced23Ric>
And Jumpjets. Massive Jumpjets.
21:50
<+afny>
Yesss
21:50
< DeathZero>
Sweet.
21:50 * Ced23Ric plans this endeavour.
21:51
<@Ced23Ric>
GOD I AM SO GIDDY.
21:51
<+afny>
it's weird to see you using a gundam term
21:51
<@Ced23Ric>
Just for you, really.
21:51
< DeathZero>
you gonna use my weapons on em? :D
21:51
<+afny>
yes, just for me.
21:51
<@Ced23Ric>
I'd have called it Poweraxe.
21:51
<@Ced23Ric>
DZ: Nah, MoralWarefare's version.
21:52
< DeathZero>
:P
21:52
< DeathZero>
his would be more suited to a khornite.
21:52
<@Ced23Ric>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/shieldbreaker/100_0989.jpg
21:52
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, look at that.
21:52
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev, I'll need two captains, so two assault rifles.
21:52
< DeathZero>
Its cool, just bigger than I was wanting on my guys.
21:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Whaddaya think, use one of my old designs or make a new one?
21:53
<+afny>
Well they've gotta be SLEEK
21:53
<+afny>
TEM would be top of the line
21:53
< DeathZero>
Hey, time for me to get ready to go, been a blast, catch ya guys later.
21:54
<+afny>
maybe sleek isn't the right word
21:54
<+afny>
but cutting edge, at least
21:54
<+afny>
o7
21:54
< DeathZero>
o7
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21:54
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm, yeah.
21:54
<@Ced23Ric>
I could just redo the carbine I did for the Jackrabbits.
21:55
<@Ced23Ric>
It's operator as fuck.
21:55
<@Ced23Ric>
Just in different colors.
21:55
<+afny>
different colors and maybe a solid scope
21:55
<+afny>
instead of ironsights
21:56
<@Ced23Ric>
Lemme whip something up real quick in LDD.
21:56
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, the Jackrabbits use reflex sights.
21:56
<@Ced23Ric>
Or, holographics.
21:56
<+afny>
yea
21:56
<@Ced23Ric>
The 13th Guard has iron sights.
21:56
<+afny>
that's kind of like, flamboyant though
21:56
<+afny>
perfect for rich mercs
21:56
<@Ced23Ric>
True. :D
21:57
<+afny>
but for standard (but high quality) military shock trupes
21:57
<+afny>
...troops
21:57
<+afny>
something a little more utilitarian but not skimpy
21:57
<+afny>
is in order
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22:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
22:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Okay.
22:01
<@Ced23Ric>
I am thinking, neon green for trans parts.
22:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, neongreen heat hawks.
22:01
<+afny>
looks good with red
22:01
<@Ced23Ric>
And neon green AN/PEQs.
22:02
<@Ced23Ric>
But no flash suppressors.
22:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Here.
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<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/tem_rifle.png
22:06
<+afny>
nice
22:06
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm so cheating in that picture. :D
22:06
<+afny>
where
22:06
<@Ced23Ric>
I built a contraption there put the tile where it is now.
22:06
<+afny>
oh, the tile
22:07
<@Ced23Ric>
And deleted it.
22:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Because LDD don't do that connection.
22:07
<+afny>
actually you might have trouble
22:07
<+afny>
in the brick
22:07
<+afny>
with that cheese wedge
22:07
<+afny>
in front of the tile clip
22:07
<@Ced23Ric>
And the whole buttsection don't work like that, either.
22:07
<+afny>
buttsection.
22:07
<+afny>
the colors look good though
22:07
<@Ced23Ric>
I might have what?
22:07
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7379871188/in/photostream
22:08
<+afny>
hm oh
22:08
< Mantisking>
Laterz.
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<@Ced23Ric>
Later, MK.
22:08
<+afny>
wait
22:08
<+afny>
what the fuck is that blue thing
22:08
<@Ced23Ric>
I wonder whether I should put a halfpin on the barrel.
22:09
<+afny>
the trans blue
22:09
<@Ced23Ric>
HARHARHAR.
22:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Guess.
22:09
<+afny>
did you cut a lightsaber
22:09
<+afny>
down to like a centimeter
22:09
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7379874348/in/photostream/
22:09
<@Ced23Ric>
There's more.
22:09
<+afny>
madness
22:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Hrhrhrhrhrrh.
22:09
<@Ced23Ric>
I cut up an entire 3L shaft.
22:10
<+afny>
cheating, but it looks good
22:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Had enough bits for 6 guns.
22:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah it does.
22:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Hence I did that.
22:10
<@Ced23Ric>
That was the day when I ruined my thumbs.
22:10
<+afny>
and you should do a half pin in the barrel
22:10
<+afny>
but invert it
22:10
<@Ced23Ric>
As in, cut them up more than the Spanish Inquisition did with heathens.
22:10
<+afny>
I try not to use muzzles with a stud opening because they look so big
22:11
<+afny>
like grenade launchers
22:11
<+afny>
actually my favorite thing to fix that problem are those like
22:11
<+afny>
dark grey 3/4 pins
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<+afny>
and you put the long end in and let the short end stick out
22:11
<+afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7292082920/in/set-72157629897328224
22:11
<+afny>
that used one
22:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
22:13
<@Ced23Ric>
But I cannot sink it in.
22:13
<@Ced23Ric>
I used it on all Jackrabbits.
22:14
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7387213030/in/photostream/
22:14
<+afny>
you don't want to use that again?
22:14
<+afny>
I think the gun looks different enough to keep that bit
22:14
<+afny>
if you do the accents and scope different
22:15
<@Ced23Ric>
That's the Predator rifle.
22:16
<@Ced23Ric>
I have that on the 13th Guard, 5 of them.
22:16
<@Ced23Ric>
On the Serpents, 3 of them.
22:16
<@Ced23Ric>
On the Jackrabbits, 4 of them.
22:16
<@Ced23Ric>
The Carbine, I have 2 of, on the Jackrabbits.
22:16
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/tem_rifle2.png <-- How's that?
22:16
<+afny>
yeah, I can dig it
22:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Alright.
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22:17
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm going for a smoke.
22:17
<@Ced23Ric>
When I am back, we're gonna tackle the worst part of all.
22:17
<@Ced23Ric>
HEAD DESIGN. D:
22:17
<+afny>
DEFAULT CHUB HEADS
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22:17
<+afny>
OR
22:17
<+afny>
default chub heads with CLEAR bumpers
22:17
<~Noah>
OR
22:17
<~Noah>
Another gun
22:18
<+afny>
gun head
22:18
<~Noah>
Exactly
22:18
<+afny>
hm
22:18
<+afny>
you gif me idea
22:18
<+afny>
you GIF it
22:19
<~Noah>
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MV1HebtPGDc/Sd8gfY9tqyI/AAAAAAAAACY/7D53gj8YwOc/s400/T -Great-Idea.gif
22:19
<+afny>
yes exactly
22:20
<+afny>
sadly I don't think I have the pieces to make it
22:20
<+afny>
and I don't know if its possible
22:20
<+afny>
hr
22:22
<+afny>
so I'm trying to fit
22:22
<+afny>
like a tiny vulcan gun
22:22
<+afny>
under the diving mask
22:22
<+afny>
in a minifig head
22:22
<+afny>
er, helmet
22:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, they are 6 melee dudes.
22:22
<+afny>
and somehow still be able to mount it
22:22
<@Ced23Ric>
And only two DF.
22:22
<@Ced23Ric>
But LET ME SHARE MORE TO YOU.
22:23
<@Ced23Ric>
I got an idea.
22:23
<+afny>
hm, a TAP
22:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Fuckit, I'mma build a Chub real quick. ^^
22:25
<+afny>
wait
22:25
<+afny>
if they're underbidding defenders
22:25
<+afny>
TEM doesn't make that much sense
22:25
<+afny>
I mean
22:25
<+afny>
why would they send one guy with just an axe
22:25
<+afny>
or whatevr
22:25
<+afny>
+e
22:27
<+afny>
unless they're just the ballsiest marines ever
22:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, I'l do them as a full system company.
22:28
<@Ced23Ric>
And they are.
22:28
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/chub_torso.png
22:32
<+afny>
you should try with one eye
22:32
<+afny>
instead of the two trans rounds
22:32
<+afny>
put a black bar plate
22:33
<+afny>
then put a tile clip in the center
22:33
<+afny>
and one trans round in the tile plate
22:33
<+afny>
so it's a cyclops with the horns on the back
22:33
<+afny>
it'd be a really unique head shape
22:33
<@Ced23Ric>
I just got so confused.
22:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Okay, got it now.
22:34
<@Ced23Ric>
That looks weird. D:
22:35
<+afny>
I've only ever tried it on one of those big head chubs
22:35
<+afny>
so the proportions were a lot different
22:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, don't work.
22:35
<@Ced23Ric>
The good part of the Chub head: it's flat.
22:38
<+afny>
I need to figure out a good shield connection
22:39
<+afny>
right now I'm just using taps as handles but it always puts the shield a bit too far away
22:40
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/chub_torso2.png
22:40
<@Ced23Ric>
How about that?
22:41
<+afny>
i'd switch around the torso so that the extended section is the bottom 2 studs
22:41
<+afny>
the shoulders are cool though
22:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Hrm.
22:44
<@Ced23Ric>
lol, nah.
22:45
<@Ced23Ric>
He looks chubby that way. :D
22:45
<+afny>
that's...the idea
22:45
<@Ced23Ric>
... In a bad way.
22:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Like a couch potato.
22:45
<+afny>
it just looks strange to me now
22:45
<+afny>
like too square
22:46
<+afny>
I feel like that wedge shape repeats too much
22:46
<+afny>
between the shoulders and the chest
22:46
<+afny>
and the arms
22:46
<+afny>
needs some contrast somehow
22:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Hrm.
22:53
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/chub_jets.png
22:53
<+afny>
that looks good
22:54
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/chub_torso3.png
22:56
<+afny>
he looks like he's wearing a puffy shirt
22:58
<@Ced23Ric>
... I know the kind-
22:58
<@Ced23Ric>
What has been seen cannot be unseen.
22:58
<+afny>
I want to make
22:59
<+afny>
the three musketeers+d'artagnan
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<+afny>
in Chub form
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23:04
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_chub.png
23:04
<@Ced23Ric>
There.
23:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Whaddaya think?
23:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya FF!
23:04
<+afny>
I like it a lot better
23:05
<+afny>
doesn't look like a puffy shirt anymore
23:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Thanks. :D
23:06
<+FerrelFerret>
yo!
23:07
<+FerrelFerret>
Bricklink order came in today, so yay!
23:07
<+afny>
woo
23:08
<+afny>
whatcha gonna build
23:08
<+FerrelFerret>
Something new... it'll come to me.
23:08
<+afny>
yeah, that's what I did
23:08
<+afny>
ordered a bunch of stuff with no real plan in mind
23:08
<+afny>
way more fun that way.
23:08
<+FerrelFerret>
I do much better in brick.
23:08
<+afny>
same
23:08
<+afny>
can't stand lego cad
23:09
<+FerrelFerret>
The pieces are so hard to find.
23:09
<+afny>
I know, right
23:09
<+afny>
and even when you find them they only do what you want them to do sixty percent of the time
23:09
<+afny>
and ONCE you've found them, if you don't remember exactly where, you just have to find them again
23:10
<+FerrelFerret>
I don't mind using a CAD for things like my maptool project
23:10
<+FerrelFerret>
but not for creating
23:10
<+afny>
it just slows down the process too much
23:10
<+afny>
at least the way I work
23:10
<+afny>
it doesn't bother Ced
23:10
<+afny>
clearly
23:10
<+FerrelFerret>
Clearly
23:10
<+afny>
it also just isn't fun
23:11
<+afny>
I build lego for fun, damnit
23:11
<+FerrelFerret>
well on my mac one, Bricksmith, you can save parts to a favorites list
23:11
<@Ced23Ric>
Well.
23:11
<+FerrelFerret>
yeah
23:11
<@Ced23Ric>
I memorize these things.
23:11
<+FerrelFerret>
I know what you mean
23:11
<+afny>
LDD really needs that feature
23:11
<@Ced23Ric>
It takes no effort on my part.
23:11
<+afny>
I'll dl bricksmith just to check it out
23:11
<+FerrelFerret>
gotta be able to see and feel it
23:11
<@Ced23Ric>
And I can scroll really fast. :D
23:11
<@Ced23Ric>
As in, I played WoW successfully.
23:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Hrm.
23:13
<@Ced23Ric>
There has to be a way to build that Heathawk in a more ... legal/stable way.
23:13
<@Ced23Ric>
LOL.
23:13
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh god.
23:13
<@Ced23Ric>
It's so simple.
23:13
<+FerrelFerret>
My real problem with the Lego CADs is that it takes so long to align one connection.
23:14
<+FerrelFerret>
In LDD that's not a problem, but Lego doesn't allow some connections.
23:14
<+FerrelFerret>
which is a problem
23:15
<+FerrelFerret>
but this hobby has seriously drained my 'new macbook pro' fund though. :/
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23:20
<+Tetrajak>
good news everyone
23:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya TJ.
23:21
<+Tetrajak>
I've finished the draft build of the Venus
23:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Yay!
23:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey TJ, where is the 3-prong hinge bar with stud in LDD?
23:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh.
23:22
<@Ced23Ric>
It's in technic.
23:22
<+Tetrajak>
I am not sure which brick you refer to
23:22
<@Ced23Ric>
WTF.
23:22
<+Tetrajak>
there is a lot in technic that makes little sense
23:23
<+Tetrajak>
Sadly, however, I cannot take pictures of the Venus at the moment, as our flat is heading out soon for Yum-cha, followed by a visit to Peter Jackson Studios
23:23
<+Tetrajak>
so I'll be out for several hours
23:23
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/chub_axe.png
23:23
<@Ced23Ric>
The handle.
23:24
<@Ced23Ric>
But: That's gonna be my melee weapon. :D
23:24
<+Tetrajak>
that looks very similar to another axe I've seen recently
23:25
<+Tetrajak>
I like the different blade though
23:25
<@Ced23Ric>
The Heathawk of MoralWarfare.
23:25
<+Tetrajak>
p.s. the Venus is surprisingly stable, but I had to replace the wrenches in the backwards knee joint, as I only have one wrench that is fat enough to make the connection tight
23:25
<@Ced23Ric>
It's my attempt to make it "legal".
23:25
<+Tetrajak>
Ced: yes, that's the one
23:25
<+Tetrajak>
hahaha
23:25
<+Tetrajak>
and legal it is
23:26
<@Ced23Ric>
TJ: YOu can bite the open stud if the wrenches are loose.
23:26
<+Tetrajak>
Also, I am immensely happy with the Venus
23:26
<@Ced23Ric>
But I think I told ya it's gonna be wobbly. ^^
23:26
<+Tetrajak>
I don't want to ruin my parts
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<+Tetrajak>
To complete the Venus, I had to scavenge parts from the box that sits full of pieces for my Enforcers, when I finally get the parts that I'm still missing
23:28
<+Tetrajak>
although, I have just discovered that I'm missing YET ANOTHER PART for my Enforcers, which I didn't notice last time I rummaged through said box
23:28
<+Tetrajak>
man, I am so annoyed at myself for forgetting so many pieces from my Bricklink orders
23:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Current state of Denmark: http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_chub2.png
23:28
<+Tetrajak>
that is very chunky
23:29
<@Ced23Ric>
TJ: Look on the bright side - you have enough that warrants another order. :D
23:29
<@Ced23Ric>
And: Yeah, it's meant to be.
23:29
<+Tetrajak>
I think you should replace the dish's on it's legs
23:29
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm still debating on whether I'll make a two handed weapon, too.
23:29
<+Tetrajak>
they don't fit with the hard angle flat surface aesthetic you've got going on everywhere else
23:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Actually, the dishes work really well "in the brick". But what would you suggest?
23:30
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/jrf_b5.png
23:34
<+Tetrajak>
Either you put dish's on the shoulders (which would match the round head), or you put 1x2 tiles on there instead
23:34
<+Tetrajak>
(the legs, that is)
23:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Hrmz.
23:40
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_chub3.png
23:41
<+Tetrajak>
THAT works
23:42
<+Tetrajak>
now you just need to get rid of the curves that are present in the knee covers (the hinges)
23:44
<+afny>
Hey Ced
23:44
<+afny>
so you know my three companies, more or less
23:44
<+afny>
the FC one, the UMFL one, and this new one
23:44
<+afny>
if I'm going to break them down into a 3/4/5 demo group
23:45
<+afny>
which one should be 5
23:47
<@Ced23Ric>
The coolest.
23:48
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_chub4.png
23:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev, TJ.
23:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Melee Chub is done?
23:49
<+afny>
THE COOLEST
23:49
<@Ced23Ric>
HtH (Axe), Y (Antenna in the back), B (Stormshield), G/G8 (Jumpjets).
23:49
<+afny>
I like the shield
23:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Soren's design.
23:49
<@Ced23Ric>
I think mine's more sleek, but I wanted somethign different.
23:50
<+afny>
I really want to see one of these guys
23:50
<+afny>
w
23:50
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/new_chub5.png
23:50
<+afny>
+ith a big honking tank barrel
23:50
<+afny>
over the shoulder
23:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah?
23:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Okay.
23:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Only one's gonna have a carbine.
23:50
<@Ced23Ric>
The other gets a massive gun. ^^
23:52
<@Ced23Ric>
I'll design these guys as 2x Swarmer (HYBgG), 2x Big Swarmer (HHBgG), 2x Closer (DFHYB).
23:52
<@Ced23Ric>
And 2x Tough Captain (DFYYB).
23:52
<@Ced23Ric>
The closers get shoulder cannons.
23:52
<@Ced23Ric>
And drop the jumpjets.
23:52
<@Ced23Ric>
The Captains have carbines.
23:52
<+afny>
why not artillery instead of closers?
23:52
<+afny>
that seems like a LOT of hth
23:52
<@Ced23Ric>
So?
23:53
<@Ced23Ric>
I need a lot of HtH.
23:53
<@Ced23Ric>
To mitigate range.
23:53
<@Ced23Ric>
YOu either commit or you fail with HtH.
23:53
<@Ced23Ric>
If I do 4x HtH, I am better off NOT using HtH.
23:53
<+afny>
4 units/6 systems is still a pretty big commitment
23:53
<+afny>
I dunno, you might be right
23:53
<+afny>
and Artillery is tough in an hth company because of friendly fire risk
23:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
23:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
23:57
<@Ced23Ric>
I think I got an idea for a shoulder gun.
23:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Big you say, eh? :D
23:58
<+afny>
ST
23:58
<+afny>
does stand
23:58
<+afny>
for Standing Tank
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