| --- Log opened Sat May 26 00:00:04 2012 |
| 00:00 | < Ceddo> | Travis bricks, clip plates, clip tiles, t pieces and 2 stud bricks. |
| 00:27 | | afny [afny@Nightstar-42c41d95.res.rr.com] has joined #mf0 |
| 00:27 | < Ceddo> | AFNY. |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | YOU NEED TO BUILD. |
| 00:28 | < Ceddo> | A MINX. |
| 00:28 | < afny> | a |
| 00:28 | < afny> | what |
| 00:29 | < afny> | like a cat |
| 00:29 | < afny> | wait |
| 00:29 | < afny> | that's a lynx |
| 00:31 | < afny> | oh |
| 00:31 | < afny> | is this an A YATES design? |
| 00:31 | < afny> | I don't have a lot of these parts |
| 00:32 | < afny> | those grated slopes or the longer 1x slopes mainly |
| 00:33 | < Ceddo> | Yeah, that. |
| 00:33 | < Ceddo> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1432 |
| 00:33 | < Ceddo> | It's SO BEAST. |
| 00:34 | < afny> | I definitely want some footwheels |
| 00:34 | < afny> | when I get all my bits I'm going to design some frames from the ground up |
| 00:34 | < afny> | but one of them will definitely have footwheels |
| 00:47 | < afny> | Do you think we were mean to Karoline Dianne earlier |
| 00:53 | < Soren> | a bit. |
| 00:54 | < Soren> | perhaps insufficiently lighthearted in your mockery. |
| 00:55 | < afny> | DND is weird that way...because it's so easy for different people to take different parts of it seriously... |
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| 00:56 | < afny|mac> | again with this power failure... |
| 00:56 | < Soren> | I find the safest thing to do is to take nothing seriously. |
| 00:57 | < Soren> | Not always practical, but an ideal I can aim for. |
| 00:57 | < afny|mac> | Well that's definitely the safest policy when it comes to roleplaying games. Take that shit seriously and there is no coming back. |
| 00:57 | < Soren> | definitely. |
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| 01:00 | < Soren> | https://secure.flickr.com/photos/47062214@N00/7267457960/in/pool-49503128446@N01 / chunky! |
| 01:01 | < afny|mac> | Yeah, I favorited the group shot of those guys. SO cool. |
| 01:02 | < afny|mac> | I love the colors and the SWOOSH shape |
| 01:02 | < Ceddo> | Uhm. |
| 01:02 | < Ceddo> | Karry better grow up, then. |
| 01:02 | < Ceddo> | Herrow Intarwebz. |
| 01:02 | < Ceddo> | Your opinion exists for my mockery. |
| 01:02 | < Ceddo> | I expect nothign less from my peers. |
| 01:02 | < Ceddo> | Please troll me. I love it. |
| 01:03 | < afny|mac> | I doubt she was actually offended, if she's as hardcore into roleplaying as she seems |
| 01:03 | < afny|mac> | I'm sure she's encountered the LOL DRIZZT opinion before. |
| 01:03 | < Soren> | Yeah, but mockery is like anal sex. It gets problematic if the receptive partner isn't loose enough. |
| 01:03 | < afny|mac> | Really nailed it with that one. |
| 01:03 | < Ceddo> | Well, anal sex eventually works. Either through blood, spit, tears or lube. |
| 01:04 | < Soren> | ...I kind of wonder what portion of my brain said 'Yeah, go ahead, they'll love it, in the channel.' |
| 01:05 | < Ceddo> | The part that's a fan of anal? |
| 01:05 | < Soren> | No, that's all of it. Gotta narrow it down. |
| 01:05 | < Soren> | I'm blaming that on IRC reflexes. |
| 01:06 | < Ceddo> | I dunno. You and I pretty much match in our profanity perception. |
| 01:06 | < afny|mac> | I wasn't actually being sarcastic...it was a good metaphor |
| 01:06 | < afny|mac> | ced's extension of it on the other hand was a bit rapey. |
| 01:06 | < Soren> | yeeeeah. |
| 01:07 | < Soren> | Ced needs to agree on a safeword with the rest of the channel. |
| 01:07 | < afny|mac> | Well the first thing that sprang to mind was Butts |
| 01:07 | < afny|mac> | but that's a little ingrained in the issue so |
| 01:07 | < afny|mac> | let's go with Motors. |
| 01:07 | < Ceddo> | MOTORS AND BUTTS. |
| 01:08 | < Soren> | Now I'm just wondering if we can trick some poor Danish-speaker in charge of naming pieces to name something a Butt plug. |
| 01:08 | < Ceddo> | Time to kill Umber Hulks. |
| 01:08 | < Soren> | or a Butt nozzle. |
| 01:08 | < Ceddo> | OH. |
| 01:08 | < Ceddo> | SOREN. |
| 01:08 | < Ceddo> | Do you like to ... talk? |
| 01:08 | < Ceddo> | Like, with your mouth and vocal chords? |
| 01:08 | < Soren> | 'The complex Butt+Nozzle connection' |
| 01:08 | < Soren> | Try and shut me up. |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | Why? |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | Well, my point is. |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | We use our hands, usually. |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | Either for Legos or ... complex sewing works. |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | So having hands free would be nice. |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | Hence, Teamspeak. |
| 01:09 | < Ceddo> | www.teamspeak.com |
| 01:10 | < Soren> | Hmm. I guess that's a possibility, but I type pretty fast and I usually have music on. |
| 01:10 | < afny|mac> | what are you sewing |
| 01:10 | < Ceddo> | Samesies. |
| 01:11 | < Ceddo> | But I find myself hilarious enough to annoy people with my laughter. |
| 01:11 | < Soren> | heh. |
| 01:12 | < Soren> | I have a tendency to talk to myself when I'm distracted and to process audio... poorly. |
| 01:12 | < Ceddo> | Okay. |
| 01:12 | < Ceddo> | I am being more forward. |
| 01:12 | < Soren> | Otherwise yeah, I'd love to. |
| 01:12 | < Ceddo> | I have a teamspeak server. |
| 01:12 | < Ceddo> | URL is www.eisenkern.net |
| 01:12 | < Ceddo> | No password. |
| 01:13 | < Ceddo> | There might be German roleplayers on there at times. |
| 01:13 | < afny|mac> | okay, so I imagined you meant |
| 01:13 | < afny|mac> | people ROLEPLAYING as Germans |
| 01:13 | < afny|mac> | which I know ISN'T what you meant |
| 01:13 | < afny|mac> | ...but I want it to be. |
| 01:14 | < afny|mac> | Just a bunch of Australians |
| 01:14 | < afny|mac> | pretending to be German. |
| 01:16 | < afny|mac> | why didn't this 2x2 radar dish chub waist catch on |
| 01:16 | < afny|mac> | it's so nice |
| 01:16 | < afny|mac> | but I never see it on any chubs |
| 01:17 | < Ceddo> | SO YEAH. |
| 01:17 | < Ceddo> | THIS TEAMSPEAK SERVER. |
| 01:17 | < Ceddo> | USE IT. |
| 01:17 | < Soren> | I've been using it for quite a while, actually. |
| 01:17 | < afny|mac> | that's where I got the idea |
| 01:17 | < afny|mac> | actually from a comment you made on one of josh's builds on flikr |
| 01:18 | < Ceddo> | I reinforced it with rigid tube. |
| 01:18 | < Soren> | I came up with it when I was taking the initial breakdown shots that got posted everywhere, so they're not in there, but they're in all of mine. |
| 01:18 | < Soren> | It's in all the Special Edition guys, at least. |
| 01:18 | < Soren> | (Which are almost done, yay) |
| 01:19 | < afny|mac> | can't wait to see those if you end up getting pictures of them |
| 01:19 | < Soren> | Oh, I will, but they've all been shown off before. I can pull up the promo pics we took for the announcement on Kickstarter. |
| 01:20 | < afny|mac> | Oh, I might've seen them already then |
| 01:21 | < afny|mac> | is the transforming company one of them? |
| 01:21 | < Soren> | yeah, this isn't the custom guys. Those guys I will be taking pictures of once they're done. |
| 01:21 | < Soren> | I don't think I'm doing anything transformy. |
| 01:21 | < afny|mac> | Oh oh |
| 01:21 | < afny|mac> | Custom!=special |
| 01:22 | < Soren> | Yeah, these designs were set in stone when we announced them. |
| 01:22 | < Soren> | The custom stuff is designed and built to order. |
| 01:23 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/uupqrzjo6a226zu/01-00%20Legion.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/cknfcctg4p75yg6/02-00%20Ijad.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cvwbuk93ea1wjx/03-00%20Colonials.jpg |
| 01:23 | < afny|mac> | oh yeah, the chub tub |
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| 01:25 | < afny|mac> | o/ |
| 01:25 | < Dukayn> | Howdy |
| 01:26 | < Soren> | hoihoi |
| 01:26 | < Soren> | what's up? |
| 01:26 | < Dukayn> | eh not much |
| 01:26 | < Dukayn> | just waiting for Mitten's Anaconda render to finish |
| 01:29 | < Ceddo> | Heya Dukey. |
| 01:30 | < Ceddo> | I am waiting for you to shoot Trilly's point 'frame. :D |
| 01:31 | < Dukayn> | Haha |
| 01:32 | < Ceddo> | This is gonna be so good. |
| 01:32 | < Dukayn> | Should be interesting |
| 01:33 | < Dukayn> | Oh god, trans bricks take so long to render |
| 01:33 | < Dukayn> | So happy there are only 3 in this one |
| 01:33 | < Ceddo> | I DARE you to render the Ghost 'frame. |
| 01:35 | < afny|mac> | I'm headed to bed early tonight, I'll catch you folk later |
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| 01:36 | < Soren> | buh. |
| 01:36 | < Ceddo> | Mhmm? |
| 01:36 | < Soren> | accidentally closed the channel. |
| 01:37 | < Soren> | irritating. |
| 01:39 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 01:39 | < Dukayn> | I started rendering the Ghost frame actually |
| 01:39 | < Dukayn> | I left it overnight, and it had done maybe 10%. Sod that. |
| 01:40 | < Ceddo> | Bahaha. |
| 01:54 | < Soren> | ouch. |
| 02:02 | < Ceddo> | Ugh. |
| 02:02 | < Ceddo> | So tired. |
| 02:02 | < Ceddo> | Oh, yeah. |
| 02:02 | < Ceddo> | It's 3am. |
| 02:03 | < Ceddo> | Also, I feel accomplished. |
| 02:03 | < Ceddo> | Finished two 'frames and built another. |
| 02:03 | < Ceddo> | Good haul. |
| 02:03 | < Soren> | excellent. |
| 02:03 | < Ceddo> | Tomorrow, I'll look into doing some Ijad stuff, maybe. |
| 02:03 | < Soren> | I gotta say, it's incredibly gratifying to see you guys take off with this stuff. |
| 02:04 | < Ceddo> | Dude, I love it. |
| 02:04 | < Ceddo> | It strikes so many chords. |
| 02:04 | < Ceddo> | I love lego, mechas and stratey games. |
| 02:04 | < Ceddo> | +g |
| 02:04 | < Ceddo> | I have ... 18 'frames done, another 5 almost done. |
| 02:05 | < Ceddo> | I lost track of why and what for. |
| 02:05 | < Ceddo> | BUT THEY EXIST. |
| 02:05 | < Ceddo> | Next week, I will have all the parts needed for 8 stations - and 4 colour trims for up to 6 of them. |
| 02:05 | < Ceddo> | Should be enough for any multiplayer game. |
| 02:06 | < Soren> | Heh. Well, obviously it struck a chord. But the degree and depth of the chord is pretty surprising. |
| 02:06 | < Ceddo> | And then, next weekend, I will grab terrain pieces. |
| 02:06 | < Ceddo> | And then, come Monday, I'll do probably the first demo game of MFZ in Germany EVER. |
| 02:06 | < Ceddo> | I am pretty excited. :D |
| 02:06 | < Soren> | hee. |
| 02:06 | < Ceddo> | Called a couple local stores. |
| 02:07 | < Ceddo> | Oh well. This is gonna be good. :D |
| 02:07 | < Soren> | Well, I wish you a great deal of luck, and not just because it'll make me some money. |
| 02:09 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 02:09 | < Ceddo> | Oh, I am sure I will gather a good amount of people. |
| 02:09 | < Ceddo> | It's wargames. |
| 02:09 | < Ceddo> | Things German gamers like: Wargames. |
| 02:09 | < Dukayn> | I recently found out there's a local wargaming group near me so I'm going to try and get in there. |
| 02:09 | < Ceddo> | And we are fond of Legos. |
| 02:09 | < Soren> | I've noticed, yeah. |
| 02:09 | < Ceddo> | It's pretty much selling itself. |
| 02:10 | < Ceddo> | Y'know, one day ... |
| 02:10 | < Ceddo> | I'll be Christian Rasch, MFZ:RA Representative, Germany. |
| 02:10 | < Dukayn> | Well duh. It's Lego, tabletop wargaming and mechs. What's not to love? |
| 02:10 | < Ceddo> | I'll have a little name tag and wear a tie. |
| 02:10 | < Soren> | You know, one thing you might wanna do is get a couple big bags of C6 parts for people to assemble their own robots at the table. |
| 02:11 | < Ceddo> | Nah. Simply reason: German wargamers don't like easy. :D |
| 02:11 | < Dukayn> | haha |
| 02:11 | < Dukayn> | Ah well get a big bag of Takafashii parts then :P |
| 02:11 | < Soren> | Just off the top of my head, that's... what, maybe 40 euros' worth of stuff for an awful lot of fun |
| 02:11 | < Ceddo> | They are used to painstakingly accurate WH40k and Fantasy models, LotR elves, etc. |
| 02:11 | < Soren> | Mm, but it gets them hooked. |
| 02:12 | < Ceddo> | I'll show up with 3 Chub variants, some Scramblers, some of my own designs and they will be like: "HOW I GET THESE?!" |
| 02:12 | < Ceddo> | And I'll send them to my two local Lego stores. |
| 02:12 | < Ceddo> | Show them LDD. |
| 02:12 | < Ceddo> | Tell them about the hangar. |
| 02:12 | < Dukayn> | You should ask your Lego stores for a commission on sales :P |
| 02:12 | < Soren> | If you're running a fancy game, and you offer them the ability to run their own, less fancy game to see how much fun it is... that's a hard mix to resist. |
| 02:12 | < Ceddo> | They don't realize potential gain. |
| 02:12 | < Ceddo> | I see what you mean, Soren. |
| 02:13 | < Dukayn> | They will soon I bet. |
| 02:13 | < Soren> | Oh, I should take a picture of my box of generic stations. |
| 02:13 | < Ceddo> | But these people rather hide at home for 6 months to finish an army, before they'd show up with an army that is subpar. |
| 02:13 | < Soren> | It's a little frightening. |
| 02:13 | < Soren> | hee |
| 02:13 | < Dukayn> | We're really limited in Tassie in that we don't have any dedicated Lego shops. The only places which sell Lego are places like Toyworld and K-Mart. |
| 02:13 | < Soren> | Well, you can just let them mess with the parts, but keep them for demos. |
| 02:14 | < Ceddo> | Sunday, Monday and Wednesday, I am meeting people from local classifieds. |
| 02:14 | < Ceddo> | Totally snatching their kids Legos. |
| 02:14 | < Dukayn> | lol |
| 02:14 | < Ceddo> | I am debating on actually brining parts. |
| 02:14 | < Ceddo> | Y'know, couple of bricks, some colored trim and stuff. |
| 02:15 | < Ceddo> | Not just C6 stuff, though. |
| 02:15 | < Ceddo> | The idea behind C6 is cool. |
| 02:15 | < Ceddo> | But if it would be C9 (+Clip +Travis Brick +T piece), it'be retardedly good. |
| 02:16 | < Soren> | 'tis true. |
| 02:16 | < Ceddo> | *it'd be |
| 02:16 | < Ceddo> | It's too late for spelling properly. |
| 02:16 | < Dukayn> | hahaha |
| 02:16 | < Ceddo> | I need shuteye. |
| 02:17 | < Ceddo> | Got a party tomorrow to organise. |
| 02:17 | < Ceddo> | Still haven't found plastic shotglasses. |
| 02:17 | < Ceddo> | But those Jello shooter WILL come into existence. |
| 02:17 | < Ceddo> | Water/Vodka 1:3, 1:2 and 2:1.5 mixes. And some fruit (blueberries, raspberries, blackberries) in the center. |
| 02:18 | < Ceddo> | Vodka/Water, actually. |
| 02:18 | < Dukayn> | You should go to bed then :P |
| 02:18 | < Ceddo> | But you get it. |
| 02:19 | < Ceddo> | I battered and fried 5 ounds of chicken today. |
| 02:19 | < Ceddo> | And my roomies made 10 pounds each of noodle and potatoe salad. |
| 02:19 | < Ceddo> | We bought 4 cases of beer (20 bottles, 0.5l (a pint) each) |
| 02:20 | < Ceddo> | And I am afraid that we will run out of beer. |
| 02:20 | < Ceddo> | Last time, our guests downed 150 bottles. |
| 02:20 | < Ceddo> | ... and this is a monthly thing. |
| 02:22 | < Soren> | I hear vomit does, eventually, come out of carpet, if you scrub enough. |
| 02:24 | < Ceddo> | Heh. |
| 02:24 | < Ceddo> | Did I mention this was in Germany? |
| 02:24 | < Ceddo> | We can handle our beer. ;) |
| 02:24 | < Soren> | Oh, I have no doubt. |
| 02:29 | < Ceddo> | Anywho. |
| 02:29 | < Ceddo> | Time for listening closely to what my Tempur pillow has to say. |
| 02:29 | < Ceddo> | Real close. |
| 02:29 | < Ceddo> | That bitch is whispering. |
| 02:30 | < Ceddo> | Laters, fellow brothers in the brick.- |
| 02:30 | < Soren> | later! |
| 02:32 | < Dukayn> | Cya Ced |
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| 02:36 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ek2ykdxhy9qfs5/Striderguts.JPG Oh, almost forgot - I should whore this around a bit more in case someone hasn't seen it. |
| 02:45 | < Dukayn> | That's nice |
| 02:47 | < Dukayn> | That reminds me I need to do more Ijad wallpapers |
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| 03:01 | < Soren> | I'm all in favor of that. |
| 03:10 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Mind if I do one of the Strider? |
| 03:14 | < Soren> | Oh, go for it. |
| 03:15 | < Soren> | I've got another new one, too. |
| 03:15 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | ORLY? |
| 03:15 | < Soren> | YARLY |
| 03:15 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | NOWAI |
| 03:16 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | brb I need toast and soup |
| 03:16 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | then I shall pester you about this new Ijad :P |
| 03:16 | < Soren> | Yeah, juggling windows, be just a sec. |
| 03:17 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/9zks2t8b5z9a91r/I-ST-02F%20Stink%20Eye.JPG |
| 03:19 | < Soren> | Torso is flipped upside-down to interface with this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/56f26trkbo800rw/Ball%20Turret.JPG |
| 03:19 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | That's cool |
| 03:19 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Love the name ;) |
| 03:20 | < Soren> | heh, thanks. |
| 03:21 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lcdpc3j8mtksnd/I-ST-04A%20Strider.JPG And here's a Strider in the normal colors. |
| 03:22 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Cool cool cool |
| 03:22 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | I might do the pair in one wallpaper |
| 03:22 | < Soren> | heh, and I made two and everything. |
| 03:22 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | So long as you don't mind revealing the Stink Eye yet |
| 03:23 | < Soren> | Nope, it's not earmarked for anything special. |
| 03:23 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Sweet |
| 03:24 | < Soren> | Just seemed more fun to give it a head-roasting eyeball-shaped maser than to stick yet another stingbeam sphere on it. |
| 03:24 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Oh shoot I just now realised I have done a Chub and a Scrambler but not a Hi-Leg. |
| 03:24 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Yeah the ball turret is nice and beefy |
| 03:25 | < Soren> | I'm super proud of it. |
| 03:25 | < Soren> | It's the first ball turret design I've come up with that I actually like. |
| 03:25 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | I like seeing how many variants to the Scrambler people can come up with as you'd think with the uniformity of the entire bottom half of the frame it'd somehow limit the options for the top half but it doesn't seem to. |
| 03:26 | < Soren> | Well, I did my best to make all of the designs pretty open. |
| 03:26 | < Soren> | lots of attachment points. |
| 03:26 | < Soren> | the Scrambler is probably the least flexible of the three, but that hasn't stopped anybody yet. |
| 03:26 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Yeah exactly |
| 03:27 | < Soren> | So I'm happy there. |
| 03:28 | < Soren> | I've got some more Fuchikomoid variants on the Scrambler frame that I'm doing for one of the custom companies - they're pretty excellent. |
| 03:29 | < Soren> | Once they're done I'll try to get pictures for the curious, but I'm trying to keep those under wraps until they're done. |
| 03:29 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | ah nice |
| 03:29 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | BTW I love the 'Loper' bot |
| 03:30 | < Soren> | thanks! |
| 03:30 | < Soren> | He was a quickie fun build to see if I could get something with those calves to stand up. |
| 03:32 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Haha yeah that leg. It looks like the most fragile connection in the world but obviously it works else there wouldn't be a photo of it standing that well :P |
| 03:34 | < Soren> | Yeah, doesn't hold much weight, though |
| 03:34 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Yeah I can imagine |
| 03:36 | < Soren> | of course, if you get it balanced properly, it's got enough tension to stand on one leg. |
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| 03:37 | | * KarolineDianne falls out of the sky and leaves a Karla shaped hole in the ground |
| 03:37 | | * Soren peers over the rim |
| 03:37 | < Soren> | you okay in there? |
| 03:37 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm fine... @.@ |
| 03:38 | | * Dukayn[AFK] passes Karla a beer |
| 03:38 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Here, that'll help |
| 03:38 | < KarolineDianne> | Ew alcohol >.< |
| 03:39 | < Soren> | Also I'm pretty sure she's underage on this side of the pond. |
| 03:39 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Oh, really? |
| 03:39 | < KarolineDianne> | Only by about half a year, but still. Alcohol is nastygross |
| 03:39 | < Soren> | Yeah, it's 21 in the states. We're silly like that, but it does ensure that only the *clever* 18 year olds can get pissed up. |
| 03:41 | < KarolineDianne> | I personally find alcohol to be stupid unless it's used in a medicinal sense, like to kill germs. It smells awful, tastes atrocious, and toes horrible things to your liver and brain. I see no appeal in it at all. |
| 03:41 | | * Soren hands Karla a spicy ginger soda and surreptitiously drinks her beer. |
| 03:41 | < KarolineDianne> | Spicy ginger soda...? |
| 03:42 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lcdpc3j8mtksnd/I-ST-04A%20Strider.JPG This stuff, by preference, but any variety will do. |
| 03:42 | < Soren> | whoops. |
| 03:42 | < Soren> | http://www.reedsinc.com/ |
| 03:42 | < Soren> | Also, good for the insides. |
| 03:42 | < KarolineDianne> | i don't drink ijad frames. :P |
| 03:44 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Yeah I realise 21 is legal drinking age in the US. Pretty sure the entire world knows that piece of idiocy :P |
| 03:44 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | I didn't realise she was so young ;) |
| 03:45 | < KarolineDianne> | :I |
| 03:45 | < KarolineDianne> | I think alcohol in and of itself is a piece of idiocy. :P |
| 03:45 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Heh, fair enough. I can see why. |
| 03:45 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Personally I don't mind it. I like beer well enough and the occasional glass of wine but I'm not a huge drinker. |
| 03:45 | < Soren> | I think it's best kept away from idiots, but as a general rule, yeah. |
| 03:46 | < KarolineDianne> | I drink tea, water, milk, and... Very seldomly soda. |
| 03:46 | < Soren> | I'm very glad to have escaped the phase of my life where anesthesia rather than a pleasant fuzziness is the goal. |
| 03:46 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | And at this point I think I can safely say I'm no longer AFK :P |
| 03:46 | | Dukayn[AFK] is now known as Dukayn |
| 03:46 | < Soren> | pretty much. |
| 03:47 | < Dukayn> | Yeah, I'm glad I never had that phase where I felt the need to get so drunk that I passed out, or blacked out, or even vomited. |
| 03:47 | < Soren> | I've gotten vomiting drunk once, I think. But that might also have been simple dehydration. |
| 03:48 | < Dukayn> | I swear most of it is. That and of course actual alcohol poisoning. |
| 03:48 | < Soren> | Yeah - well, this was a bike ride where I didn't pack enough water. |
| 03:48 | < Dukayn> | I've thrown up once. And that was vodka/orange juice which I now declare the worst combination of anything ever. |
| 03:48 | < Soren> | Why I was biking around drunk, is lost to the mists of time. |
| 03:48 | < Soren> | Mm, I actually like screwdrivers. |
| 03:49 | < KarolineDianne> | I've never been close to being drunk, as I've never had more than a sip. I'm always left sputtering and gagging worse than the nastiest cough medicine has ever made me. |
| 03:49 | < Dukayn> | Not when you go through an entire 2.4L bottle of orange juice and the appropriate amount of Vodka. |
| 03:49 | < Soren> | Of course, the best is a carrot juice screwdriver, so you can make with the Bugs Bunny voice while you drink it. |
| 03:49 | < Soren> | This is true. |
| 03:50 | | * KarolineDianne noms her butterfinger blast/flurry/blizzard/thing from Dairy Queen |
| 03:50 | < Dukayn> | Yeah it can be nasty stuff that's fore sure, especially the strong liquors and spirits. |
| 03:51 | < KarolineDianne> | Last one was some kind of white wine. |
| 03:52 | < KarolineDianne> | My father was like 'take a sip, it tastes like butter' and when I did I was gagging and spitting for five minutes. |
| 03:52 | < Soren> | I'm not a huge fan of white wine - usually too tart and often just terrible. |
| 03:52 | < Soren> | That's a cruel trick. |
| 03:53 | < Soren> | Now, white wine + mushrooms and butter.... great combination. |
| 03:53 | < Soren> | numnumnumnum |
| 03:53 | < Dukayn> | Heh |
| 03:53 | < Dukayn> | White wine is nothing like butter WTF. |
| 03:53 | < Dukayn> | And unless it's a good one, it's often just... bleh. |
| 03:53 | < Soren> | Yeah. |
| 03:53 | < Dukayn> | Prefer reds, they seem to be more forgiving. |
| 03:54 | < Soren> | and richer. |
| 03:54 | < Dukayn> | Yeah |
| 03:54 | < Soren> | also, they make nicer hard sauces for icecream. |
| 03:54 | < KarolineDianne> | Hard sauce...? |
| 03:55 | < Soren> | Put red wine in a saucepan, throw in a couple sugar cubes and a dollop of raspberry jam, and cook it until it thickens. |
| 03:55 | < Soren> | maybe a little butter if you feel decadent. |
| 03:56 | < KarolineDianne> | Huh |
| 03:56 | < KarolineDianne> | Soren's an artist, AND a chef |
| 03:56 | < Soren> | I'm a pervert in many media. |
| 03:56 | < Soren> | Also, apparently that's not, technically, a hard sauce. |
| 03:57 | < Soren> | But, as a bonus, you do get most of the alcohol. |
| 03:57 | < Soren> | So it's just the flavor. |
| 03:58 | < Dukayn> | My wife would love that. |
| 03:58 | < Soren> | It's pretty great. |
| 03:58 | < Dukayn> | Also, "Soren: I'm a pervert in many media." may just have to be my forum signature :P |
| 03:58 | < Soren> | You can dip biscuits in it and freeze them, too. |
| 03:59 | < Soren> | hee |
| 03:59 | < KarolineDianne> | lololol |
| 03:59 | < KarolineDianne> | Hey, I found somethign that amuses me greatly. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20435019/cocainespider.gif lololol |
| 04:00 | < Dukayn> | LOL! |
| 04:00 | < Soren> | I AM FINE NOW. |
| 04:01 | < Soren> | BBBBBBBBRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEAAAAWWWWWWW |
| 04:01 | < Soren> | *pop* |
| 04:01 | < Soren> | his tiny spider heart exploded. |
| 04:01 | < KarolineDianne> | Wait wat |
| 04:02 | < KarolineDianne> | You know who else does cocaine? |
| 04:03 | < Dukayn> | Oooh ooh ooh I know~ |
| 04:03 | < Dukayn> | Lindsay Lohan! |
| 04:03 | < KarolineDianne> | Nope |
| 04:03 | < KarolineDianne> | DOOM RIDER! Nah nah! Nah nah! |
| 04:03 | < Dukayn> | >.> You lost me |
| 04:04 | < KarolineDianne> | Warhammer 40k joke |
| 04:04 | < KarolineDianne> | Doom Rider is a slaanesh daemon prince who rides on a motorcycle that teleports into the battlefield. |
| 04:04 | < Dukayn> | Ah |
| 04:04 | < Dukayn> | Of course he is lol |
| 04:04 | < KarolineDianne> | And he does cocaine. |
| 04:05 | < Dukayn> | He's a chaos daemon prince, would cocaine really have that much effect on him? |
| 04:05 | < Soren> | I'm pretty sure that whole universe is coked to the gills, personally. |
| 04:05 | < Dukayn> | Pretty much, yeah |
| 04:05 | < Dukayn> | Everyone's a violent sociopath at best. |
| 04:05 | < KarolineDianne> | http://www.fybertech.com/4thread/tg_16470798/1317376697487.jpg |
| 04:05 | < Soren> | Sociopathy seems like it would be a step up, actually. |
| 04:05 | < KarolineDianne> | He also apparently dips live kittens in LSD and swallows them whole |
| 04:06 | < Soren> | mere indifference to the suffering of others implies that you're not busy murdering them at least some of the time. |
| 04:06 | < Soren> | Pff, I was doin' that yesterday. That's nothing. |
| 04:06 | < KarolineDianne> | I TOLD YOU SOREN WAS SLAANESH |
| 04:06 | < Dukayn> | My personal fave WH40k image: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TM9t0WKYHOM/Tp2dYO9O4JI/AAAAAAAAQAk/WB4WZtZ5eUw/s1600/ drive%2Bme%2Bcloser%2521%2Bi%2Bwant%2Bto%2Bhit%2Bthem%2Bwith%2Bmy%2Bsword.png |
| 04:06 | < Soren> | Kittens are so tender. |
| 04:06 | < Soren> | heh, that about sums it up. |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | Could also apply to MFZ HtH frames when you think about it :P |
| 04:07 | < Soren> | I find the completely overblown style alternately repellent and hilarious as fuck. |
| 04:07 | < Dukayn> | I'm a fan, I have to admit. I've never played it tabletop but I do have the Dawn of War games. All of them. |
| 04:08 | < KarolineDianne> | This is one of the best Doom Rider pics I've ever found. http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/af/22/af222b_1441533.jpg |
| 04:08 | < Dukayn> | Redirects to funnyjunk homepage, boooo. |
| 04:08 | < KarolineDianne> | Wait wat? |
| 04:09 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xu1k1mt2prwpqr/Blade%20Breakers.JPG here, let me distract you with robots. |
| 04:09 | < KarolineDianne> | Goddamnit Soren stop being so much better than me |
| 04:09 | < Dukayn> | Woo |
| 04:09 | | * Soren preens. |
| 04:09 | < Dukayn> | So much going on in that photo I can't make sense of anything behind the front guys :P |
| 04:10 | < Dukayn> | Naw, he's a pro. Says so on his Flickr account ;) Don't feel bad. |
| 04:10 | < Soren> | The rear guys are all the same design, if that helps any. |
| 04:11 | < Soren> | hah |
| 04:11 | < Dukayn> | Yeah, I can see that. Just so much Lego crammed tightly together my eyes go "Pfft, whatevs. It's a swagload of Lego, move on." |
| 04:12 | < Soren> | yeah, I wanted to get a picture of the whole thing, but it probably wasn't a good idea. |
| 04:12 | < Dukayn> | I think they just need some separation so you can make out the individuals a bit better. Group shots are great you just have to be careful with composition so you don't overcrowd the shot. |
| 04:13 | < Soren> | yeah, I've just got relatively few options while we're packing. |
| 04:13 | < Dukayn> | Yeah that does tend to crimp things a bit. |
| 04:13 | < Dukayn> | How long now? |
| 04:13 | < Soren> | mm, maybe twenty days and change? |
| 04:13 | < Soren> | we leave the 17th. |
| 04:14 | < Dukayn> | Big move. |
| 04:15 | < Soren> | just a bit. |
| 04:16 | < KarolineDianne> | Someone needs to make a lego motorcycle that a Chub can sit in. |
| 04:17 | < Dukayn> | Damn you, I've already thought about how to do that. I'm trying to do an Ijad Strider wallpaper here! :P |
| 04:18 | < Dukayn> | (Already being since you mentioned it, not previous to your comment. Stop distracting me! LOL) |
| 04:21 | < KarolineDianne> | Yo dawg, I heard you like giant vehicles. So we put your giant robot on a giant motorcycle so you can drive while you pilot! |
| 04:21 | < Dukayn> | Haha |
| 04:21 | < Dukayn> | It's kinda redundant isn't it. |
| 04:22 | < KarolineDianne> | But still awesome |
| 04:25 | < Dukayn> | Well of course |
| 04:25 | < Dukayn> | Hey Soren, in the Striderguts pic, what's the part behind the Travis brick at the back of the gun? |
| 04:25 | < Soren> | either a headlight brick or a 1x1 technic brick. Your preference |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | Ah ok |
| 04:27 | < Dukayn> | And just a tile behind that? |
| 04:27 | < Soren> | or a 1x1 plate, again, depending. |
| 04:28 | < Dukayn> | And is that a clip + antenna on the bottom? |
| 04:28 | < Soren> | Yeah. |
| 04:30 | < Dukayn> | Sweet |
| 04:36 | < Dukayn> | Hmm, what do you put on the outside over the studs? A 1x4 tile doesn't fit over the travis stud, so maybe 2x 1x2s? Or do you have something more specific you like to have there? |
| 04:37 | < Soren> | hrm. |
| 04:37 | < Soren> | what are we - oh, I think i get it. |
| 04:37 | < Soren> | there's a 2x2 dish and a 1x2 grille on the outer edge. |
| 04:37 | < Dukayn> | Ah |
| 04:37 | < Dukayn> | Coolio |
| 04:37 | < Dukayn> | It's the only side I can't see a dang thing of :P |
| 04:38 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9qlxwh9rd4e7t2/Heavy Strider.JPGhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/e9qlxwh9rd4e7t2/Heavy Strider.JPG I got you covered |
| 04:38 | < Soren> | buh. |
| 04:38 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9qlxwh9rd4e7t2/Heavy Strider.JPG Here, this link will actually work if you click it. |
| 04:38 | < Dukayn> | Heh ta |
| 04:38 | < Soren> | ... |
| 04:39 | < Soren> | Well. |
| 04:39 | < Soren> | If you can see it, I guess it's working. |
| 04:39 | < Dukayn> | Haha |
| 04:39 | < Dukayn> | I just copy/pasted it |
| 04:41 | < Soren> | fair enough |
| 04:41 | < KarolineDianne> | Links no work... :O |
| 04:42 | < Dukayn> | Cos of spaces is all |
| 04:47 | < KarolineDianne> | Huh |
| 04:47 | < Dukayn> | http://bit.ly/KU4xtW << Bitly fixes all :) |
| 04:48 | < Noah> | Soren: Spaces bad, lern2linux |
| 04:48 | < Soren> | indeed it does |
| 04:48 | < Soren> | Noah: then you're gonna have to learn to live with fewer links, because this is what Dropbox hands me real quick. |
| 04:48 | < Noah> | Yea, via the context menu in Windows? |
| 04:48 | < Soren> | in OSX, actually, but yes. |
| 04:49 | < Noah> | Ew, Mac |
| 04:49 | < Soren> | right click>grab link |
| 04:49 | < Noah> | Right right |
| 04:49 | < Soren> | the alternative is that I post fewer links. |
| 04:49 | < Dukayn> | Anything I save to the web I try to avoid naming with spaces, just because it avoids issues with URLs not parsing the %20 like they should. |
| 04:50 | < Dukayn> | Is there a bit.ly extension or add-on or plugin or whatnot for Safari Soren? |
| 04:50 | < Soren> | Yeah, for web purposes I kill spaces, but it's easier to actually find shit on my machine this way, so. |
| 04:50 | < Dukayn> | Well, I assume you use Safari on Mac |
| 04:50 | < Dukayn> | Yeah that's true. |
| 04:50 | < Soren> | Fuck no. |
| 04:51 | < Soren> | Safari is a terrible browser. |
| 04:51 | < Noah> | The Goo.gl extension is handy, because I can hit ctrl-alt-g on any page, and it gives me a short link |
| 04:51 | < Noah> | http://goo.gl/CS9KU |
| 04:51 | < Soren> | I have a tricked-out copy of Firefox, like anyone who browses the web for more than just porn and Wikipedia. |
| 04:51 | < Noah> | I'm a Chrome guy myself |
| 04:52 | < Noah> | Google knows how many freckles I have on my ass, not much I can do about it now, so might as well use their products |
| 04:52 | < Soren> | I'll probably switch. FF is getting crappier of late, I just love the No Youtuibe Comments and HTTPS Everywhere plugins. |
| 04:52 | < Soren> | And Adblock. |
| 04:53 | | * KarolineDianne is heading off to bed. |
| 04:53 | < KarolineDianne> | Be well, guys! |
| 04:53 | < KarolineDianne> | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 04:54 | < Noah> | See ya Karo |
| 04:54 | < Dukayn> | Yeah and the webapps in Chrome are nice too. |
| 04:54 | < Dukayn> | Heck I'm using one now to chat in IRC so I don't have to have another application open. |
| 04:54 | < Soren> | handy |
| 04:54 | < Dukayn> | very |
| 04:57 | < Noah> | Soren: Chrome has all of those: http://goo.gl/YmTHX http://goo.gl/NXq6Z http://goo.gl/JlGey |
| 04:57 | < Soren> | I am not shcoked. |
| 04:57 | < Soren> | shocked* |
| 04:58 | < Noah> | Have a gmail account? |
| 04:58 | < Soren> | since Beta. |
| 04:58 | < Noah> | You're half-way there, go install Chrome |
| 04:58 | < Soren> | I've already got it installed. |
| 04:58 | < Noah> | Be one of us...oneofus...oneofus... |
| 04:58 | < Soren> | Just haven't switched over to it as a primary browser. |
| 04:59 | < Soren> | Probably going to wait until the move |
| 04:59 | < Noah> | Okay, so I added 40 t-bars, what else do I need |
| 04:59 | < Soren> | Get headlight bricks, especially in black. |
| 04:59 | < Noah> | Yea, I should get more of those |
| 04:59 | < Soren> | You're gonna run through those motherfuckers like crazy |
| 05:00 | < Noah> | I used the garage posted on the kickstarter for my initial order, what else should I get on top of that? |
| 05:02 | < Noah> | I got a bunch of transclear round plates, in red and orange, and some other things which I now forget |
| 05:02 | < Soren> | hang on. |
| 05:03 | < Noah> | And bricklink is down for maintenance, boo |
| 05:03 | < Soren> | ah, well,in that case, I'll wait. |
| 05:03 | < Noah> | haha, kay |
| 05:05 | < Soren> | One store you might want to poke around in is The Missing Brick. That guy's handling the Garage kits, so he's reliable as fuck. |
| 05:06 | < Noah> | Yea, I've looked around his store a bit |
| 05:06 | < Noah> | I've already bought the initial garage, I'm just looking for some neat bits that aren't on it that I could use |
| 05:07 | < Noah> | Ced suggested t-bars, I need to get some Ijad stuff, the smaller 1x3 curved slopes for some smaller ones, and enough parts to do 4 more of the one I've already come up with (maybe some stuff to make them more white and green at that |
| 05:08 | < Soren> | load up on 1x1 plates, round and standard both |
| 05:09 | < Soren> | and jumper plates. |
| 05:09 | < Soren> | at this small a scale, you should probably just rule out any piece with demnsions over 4x4 |
| 05:09 | < Soren> | ... |
| 05:09 | < Soren> | *dimensions |
| 05:10 | < Soren> | Dear Cat: my typing does not improve when you try to munch on my toes. |
| 05:10 | < Soren> | Stop that. |
| 05:14 | < Dukayn> | I know your pain |
| 05:15 | < Soren> | She's a hyper little attention whore. |
| 05:15 | < Dukayn> | You can shorten that to: "cat" |
| 05:15 | < Soren> | I mean, I love her. She's a very affectionate and clever little monster. |
| 05:16 | < Soren> | But god DAMN she knows how to punch my buttons. |
| 05:16 | < Soren> | ...so, yes. |
| 05:22 | < Dukayn> | Yep that pretty much sums up every cat, ever. |
| 05:24 | < Soren> | Tiny affectionate ball of fluff... then TINY HATE TINY HATE AAAAAAARGH |
| 05:58 | < Noah> | Have two of my own, the fluffy orange one seems to think the best path from the bed to the cat food is across my laptop |
| 06:00 | < Dukayn> | Haha |
| 06:00 | < Dukayn> | Cats love laptop keyboards |
| 06:02 | < Noah> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2434 That's a hell of a piece |
| 06:02 | < Dukayn> | Studly |
| 06:04 | | * Soren has a drawer full of them |
| 06:04 | < Soren> | Blue's the cheapest. |
| 06:04 | < Soren> | IIRC. |
| 06:06 | < Dukayn> | Strider LDraw is done. |
| 06:06 | < Dukayn> | Starting on the Stink Eye. How the feck does it connect the torso to the base? |
| 06:07 | < Soren> | torso is turned upside down, and there's a 3x3 black dish on there. |
| 06:07 | < Soren> | ...with a 2x2 dish inside that. |
| 06:07 | < Dukayn> | Ahhhhhh |
| 06:08 | < Dukayn> | Very sneaky, sir |
| 06:08 | < Soren> | yeah, but it was the only way to get the legs to lock properly. |
| 06:25 | < Dukayn> | And done |
| 06:25 | < Dukayn> | Man he looks cool :) |
| 06:26 | | * Noah adds some greebles to his sole Ijad unit |
| 06:27 | | * Soren bows |
| 06:28 | < Noah> | Soren and Dukayn: Either of you done a lego draft before? |
| 06:28 | < Soren> | Yeah, I've got it listed in the 'getting parts' chapter of the book, actually. |
| 06:29 | < Soren> | Why do you ask? |
| 06:29 | < Dukayn> | I'm not entirely sure what you mean. |
| 06:30 | < Noah> | I just ran across this: http://sealug.org/book/reference_book/FAQ/what_is_the_draft |
| 06:30 | < Soren> | A parts draft is where you and a bunch of other people all buy a copy of a set, then divide it out in lots ala bricklink. |
| 06:30 | < Dukayn> | Ah ok |
| 06:30 | < Soren> | You take turns claiming a single pile of parts. |
| 06:30 | < Soren> | It's a great way to divide a set up |
| 06:30 | < Dukayn> | I've only just gotten back into Lego because of MFZ. |
| 06:31 | < Soren> | for our purposes, you'd probably want something like, three copies each of a $10 set, instead of single $30 sets |
| 06:31 | < Dukayn> | I had a whole bin of old stuff from when I was a kid but my mum gave it to a cousin who promptly lost it. |
| 06:31 | < Soren> | balls |
| 06:31 | < Noah> | Or like 6 of the poly bags |
| 06:32 | < Noah> | Local Lego selection is spare except at Hobby Town |
| 06:32 | < Noah> | I haven't checked the other TRUs here though to be sure |
| 06:32 | < Noah> | I wish we had a loose lego store though |
| 06:33 | < Dukayn> | Ugh, same. I have to troll through sets at K-Mart or Toyworld, etc. |
| 06:34 | < Dukayn> | Hmm, I'm guessing that you can't import a multipart LDR into another multipart LDR |
| 06:34 | < Noah> | Yea, I need to check K-Mart and Biglots too |
| 06:39 | < Noah> | I went to TRU today and noticed they had this like ghost train set |
| 06:39 | < Noah> | I was kind of confused by its presence, because it seemed almost halloweeny, and I hadn't noticed it before |
| 06:39 | < Noah> | It has several GITD pieces though |
| 06:47 | < Dukayn> | Soren: first quick render of the Stink Eye / Strider wallpaper. Doing the big render now (area lights, take FOREVER but look so much better). http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/StinkEye_Strider.png |
| 06:47 | < Soren> | 'tis 404ing on me. |
| 06:47 | < Dukayn> | Oh pish. Let's try that with the correct URL. http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/wp/StinkEye_Strider.png |
| 06:48 | < Soren> | spiffy! |
| 06:48 | < Soren> | Although I would note, there's a reason I took the teeth off the Stink Eye. |
| 06:50 | < Dukayn> | Ah shoot I didn't even notice that |
| 06:50 | < Soren> | 's fine. |
| 06:51 | < Soren> | The way you have it posed, it won't interfere with the turret's rotation. |
| 06:54 | < Dukayn> | Nah but it's not RIGHT :P |
| 06:57 | < Dukayn> | It's fixed, re-doing the render. Luckily it had only been running for about 10 minutes :P |
| 07:03 | < Soren> | ah, 'kay. |
| 07:03 | < Soren> | While you're at it, then, you might also want to dump that jumper plate on the turret face, under the dishes. |
| 07:03 | < Soren> | Just noticed it. |
| 07:04 | < Soren> | and man, I'm sleepy all of a sudden. I think I'm out. |
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| 07:05 | < Dukayn> | Heh, night mate. |
| 07:05 | < Dukayn> | I think I'll keep the jumper there as it doesn't look terrible and it's almost half-done rendering ;) |
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| 07:41 | < Dukayn[AFK]> | Hey Ced |
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| 11:33 | < Ceddo> | Anyone awake? |
| 12:19 | < Noah> | Just awake |
| 12:20 | < Noah> | Getting read for school. Bot will be down until around 1830ET |
| 12:20 | < Ceddo> | I built that Fiddler Tetrajack posted. |
| 12:20 | < Ceddo> | http://flyingdebris.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d345p45 |
| 12:20 | < Ceddo> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7272520156/in/pool-438009@N25 |
| 12:22 | < Noah> | Deviantart page taking forever, lol |
| 12:22 | < Noah> | I like the 2x2 feet, bet it's real stable |
| 12:23 | < Ceddo> | Ironically, the feet and legs are stable as all fuck. |
| 12:23 | < Ceddo> | But the torso is heavy as shit. |
| 12:23 | < Noah> | The reference image is kind of scary, looks like a mech is trying to crawl out of its chest |
| 12:23 | < Ceddo> | I know. |
| 12:23 | < Ceddo> | I dreamt of the arms. |
| 12:23 | < Ceddo> | And found slvation in the form of 3mm rigid hose. |
| 12:24 | < Noah> | Nifty |
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| 12:25 | < Noah> | Well, see everyone later this evening |
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| 15:11 | | * KarolineDianne does the robot |
| 15:18 | | * KarolineDianne does the robot... Dressed as a Gundam pilot...? |
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| 15:19 | < afny|mac> | o/ |
| 15:25 | | * KarolineDianne is robot-dancing dressed in a cosplay of a Gundam pilot |
| 15:28 | < afny|mac> | ...G Gundam? |
| 15:29 | < KarolineDianne> | That silly mecha anime |
| 15:30 | < afny|mac> | "I don't always cosplay as a Gundam pilot, but when I do, I prefer to dress in a spandex 1 piece and dress my horse in a similar manner." |
| 15:31 | < KarolineDianne> | Your horse...? |
| 15:31 | < afny|mac> | Well in G Gundam, they pilot their Gundams with what basically amount to spandex mo-cap suits, right |
| 15:32 | < afny|mac> | mo-cap suits with force feedback |
| 15:32 | < afny|mac> | and one of them has the brilliant idea to put a horse in a horse shaped gundam with a force-feedback spandex suit on |
| 15:32 | < afny|mac> | so his gundam can ride around on a giant horse. |
| 15:32 | < KarolineDianne> | wtf |
| 15:32 | < afny|mac> | So basically, Gundam cosplay hardmode. |
| 15:32 | < afny|mac> | G Gundam is awesome. |
| 15:33 | < KarolineDianne> | :shrugs. |
| 15:33 | | * KarolineDianne shrugs, rather |
| 15:34 | < afny|mac> | If I was going to osplay as a gundam pilot though |
| 15:34 | < afny|mac> | it'd definitely be Char |
| 15:34 | < afny|mac> | for one thing his costume would be the most fun to make |
| 15:35 | < KarolineDianne> | Personally, I'm not super fond of the ridiculous anime-ness that Gundam has. I prefer my robots to be more like walking tanks, not giant metal super-saiyans |
| 15:36 | < afny|mac> | If we're talking UC, most things not flown by newtypes are more or less just walking tanks |
| 15:36 | < afny|mac> | but they always focus on the newtypes :\ |
| 15:37 | < KarolineDianne> | meh |
| 15:37 | < afny|mac> | have you seen VOTOMS? |
| 15:37 | < KarolineDianne> | I prefer Wanzers and VT's and Chrome Hounds and... Whatever they were called in Ring of Red. |
| 15:38 | < KarolineDianne> | I dunno what VOTOMS even is. |
| 15:38 | < afny|mac> | I just smacked my elbow on my desk trying to get to the keyboard |
| 15:38 | < afny|mac> | YOU |
| 15:38 | < afny|mac> | PLAYED |
| 15:38 | < afny|mac> | CHROMEHOUNDS?! |
| 15:39 | < KarolineDianne> | Yes. It was amazing. |
| 15:39 | < afny|mac> | Oh my god, but no one knows. |
| 15:39 | < afny|mac> | NO ONE. |
| 15:39 | < afny|mac> | Literally my favorite multiplayer game EVER, and only the solemn few mourned its death. |
| 15:39 | < KarolineDianne> | Made by the people behind Armored Core, but without the silly gundam-ness... |
| 15:39 | < KarolineDianne> | I never got to play multiplayer. |
| 15:40 | < afny|mac> | Oh my GOD |
| 15:40 | < afny|mac> | skajdfhfdg |
| 15:40 | < afny|mac> | that's like...I can't even think of an analogy to convey what you've lost |
| 15:40 | < afny|mac> | It was PERFECT. |
| 15:40 | < KarolineDianne> | Eh... I don't have an xbox live gold account... And I tend to not like multiplayer stuff. |
| 15:40 | < KarolineDianne> | I solo in MMOs |
| 15:41 | < KarolineDianne> | I plan on never using a single online feature in Diablo3 |
| 15:41 | < afny|mac> | Ah, okay. It was a pretty team-reliant experience. |
| 15:41 | < afny|mac> | Voice chat was part of the game mechanics...you had to capture comm towers if you wanted to be able to use your headset |
| 15:41 | < KarolineDianne> | I don't doubt that it was amazing, I just didn't have access to it, and I'm not a fan of multiplayer stuff anyway. |
| 15:42 | < KarolineDianne> | Unless I'm playing something like Halo or SUper Smash Bros. with my friends. |
| 15:42 | < afny|mac> | I didn't play it that way but I'm sure it would've been AWESOME with a squad of RL friends |
| 15:43 | < afny|mac> | Gah, I gotta stop thinking about it |
| 15:43 | < afny|mac> | it just makes me sad |
| 15:43 | < afny|mac> | Even before they took the servers down Xbox party chat ruined it |
| 15:43 | < KarolineDianne> | I still own a copy |
| 15:43 | < afny|mac> | Same, but I stopped paying for live when party chat came out because it ruined the game |
| 15:43 | < KarolineDianne> | It's behind my Armored Core 4 disc |
| 15:43 | < afny|mac> | and it was literally the only game I used my 360 for |
| 15:43 | < KarolineDianne> | Live party chat? |
| 15:44 | < afny|mac> | like, okay |
| 15:44 | < afny|mac> | the games were 6v6, teams of two |
| 15:44 | < afny|mac> | or less, you could queue as 4v4 |
| 15:44 | < afny|mac> | and it was this big map grid |
| 15:44 | < afny|mac> | and to be able to use your headset to talk to your team, you had to be in a "Networked Area", which meant either being near a Hound with a comms array |
| 15:44 | < afny|mac> | or being in the network of your captured COMBAS towers |
| 15:45 | < afny|mac> | but the enemy could neutralize and capture the towers for themselves, so communication and movement were tactically tied |
| 15:45 | < afny|mac> | but then xbox live released a party chat feature that just let you, outside of any game, join up in a voice chat room with friends |
| 15:45 | < afny|mac> | which effectively destroyed the entire COMBAS mechanic |
| 15:46 | < KarolineDianne> | You'd think they'd just make that feature disabled when in-game, like they did for Dark Souls. |
| 15:46 | < afny|mac> | I guess they weren't very invested because they shut off the servers a few months later :\ |
| 15:46 | < afny|mac> | I really wish they had done that |
| 15:47 | | * KarolineDianne d'aws and snuggles |
| 15:48 | < afny|mac> | Thanks, but these wounds cut deep ;_; |
| 15:49 | | * KarolineDianne uses Lay on Hands, as she is a paladin... Or something. |
| 15:50 | < afny|mac> | There's some vague genre crossover here but OKAY> |
| 15:50 | < afny|mac> | on another note, just got done sorting my first Bricklink order. It's all here! |
| 15:51 | < KarolineDianne> | :D |
| 15:51 | < afny|mac> | Now that I see them in person, though, 12 light gray 1 x 1 slopes is not going to be enough |
| 15:51 | < KarolineDianne> | Burning Hands Gundam ohcrap |
| 15:52 | < afny|mac> | If you don't like anime-ness in your Gundam, you probably won't like G Gundam |
| 15:52 | < afny|mac> | it's definitely "Gundam Does Super Robots" |
| 15:52 | < afny|mac> | but I like it because it's just so ludicrous. There is a Gundam from Mexico with a giant Somrero. |
| 15:53 | < KarolineDianne> | wtf |
| 15:53 | < afny|mac> | And one from...Holland, I think |
| 15:53 | < afny|mac> | that is just a Gundam inside a giant Windmill |
| 15:53 | | * KarolineDianne tends to be all srs bznz and dislike things that are silly. |
| 15:53 | < afny|mac> | It's pretty damn silly. |
| 15:53 | < afny|mac> | The premise is, each country in the world sends one Gundam to fight on a ruined earth until one remains standing |
| 15:54 | < afny|mac> | and every Gundam and their pilot is just a vaguely (or not so vaguely) racist panache of how Japan views that country. |
| 15:54 | | * KarolineDianne facepalm |
| 15:55 | < afny|mac> | I haven't seen it in a really long time, and I'm not sure I could actually watch it |
| 15:55 | < afny|mac> | but I remember it extremely fondly. |
| 15:56 | < KarolineDianne> | You know what I remember fondly? Front Mission 4 |
| 15:56 | < afny|mac> | I never played it, but it looked cool |
| 15:56 | < afny|mac> | Turned based though, right? |
| 15:56 | < afny|mac> | I'm always afraid TBS games will end up too grindy for my liking |
| 15:57 | < KarolineDianne> | Yeah. Basically if Final Fantasy Tactics and Armored Core had a baby, it's Front Mission. |
| 15:57 | < afny|mac> | I love FFT, but I find it's the exception to the rule that turn based stategy games are really grindy |
| 15:57 | < afny|mac> | like, in a campaign, I want to be able to beat every mission in a row using GUTS and BRAINS, not my XP bar |
| 15:57 | < KarolineDianne> | FM4 plays a LOT like FFT |
| 15:58 | < afny|mac> | I'll definitely check it out then |
| 15:58 | < afny|mac> | unlike my xbox, I make sure I always have a ps2 in working order |
| 15:58 | < KarolineDianne> | Just... minus the Job system. |
| 15:58 | < KarolineDianne> | I think |
| 15:58 | < KarolineDianne> | It's been a while. |
| 15:59 | < afny|mac> | my favorite mech games are, by far and away, ZOE 1 and 2 |
| 15:59 | < KarolineDianne> | Zoe? |
| 15:59 | < afny|mac> | Zone of the Enders |
| 16:00 | < afny|mac> | they're both PS2 titles by Kojima (MGS guy) |
| 16:00 | < KarolineDianne> | Not sure if I've heard of that one |
| 16:00 | < afny|mac> | in both, you pilot a flying mech though, not a walking tank |
| 16:00 | < afny|mac> | they're INCREDIBLE. They're both pretty short, but they're so engaging. |
| 16:01 | < afny|mac> | The have the kind of singular vision that comes with a game when a developer has near-complete creative control |
| 16:01 | < afny|mac> | they* |
| 16:01 | < KarolineDianne> | Hmm? |
| 16:01 | < afny|mac> | I don't know how else to describe it unless you've played, like |
| 16:01 | < afny|mac> | A Kojima game, or a Tim Schaffer game |
| 16:02 | < afny|mac> | Just, you can feel the artist's influence in every aspect. The story, the designs, the gameplay, even the controls and menus. |
| 16:02 | < KarolineDianne> | Wait... |
| 16:02 | < afny|mac> | It's really rewarding as a viewer. Feels less like a game and more like a work of art. Okay, that sounds really pretentious. |
| 16:02 | < afny|mac> | Definitely feels like a game, too. |
| 16:02 | < KarolineDianne> | Is'nt 'Kojima' the name of that radioactive particle stuff in Armored Core 4? |
| 16:03 | < afny|mac> | Maybe? I don't know jack about AC lore. |
| 16:04 | < KarolineDianne> | I think it is... Your Primal Armor was a field of energized Kojima particles... Which was why you had to turn it off in the mission where you're defending an inhabited town. Also, Kojima weapons were super-powerful and very dangerous... One pilot was dying from cancer from using them too much. |
| 16:05 | < afny|mac> | Could be a reference to Hideo Kojima...could be a common Japanese name. |
| 16:05 | | * KarolineDianne shrug |
| 16:07 | < afny|mac> | One game that I'm really sad |
| 16:07 | < afny|mac> | never got localized |
| 16:07 | < afny|mac> | is "Metal Wolf Chaos |
| 16:07 | < afny|mac> | " |
| 16:08 | < afny|mac> | I only know about it from youtube videos, but you basically play as the President of the United States |
| 16:08 | < afny|mac> | in a mech |
| 16:08 | < afny|mac> | and you are just an incorrigible hardass |
| 16:08 | < KarolineDianne> | And the reason is... I am the presidend of the united states of america! |
| 16:08 | < afny|mac> | YES |
| 16:08 | < afny|mac> | haha |
| 16:08 | < afny|mac> | I would play the shit out of that but I could never find a copy |
| 16:09 | < afny|mac> | IIII...RICHARD HAWK... |
| 16:09 | < KarolineDianne> | Matt from Two Best Friends Play got it on ebay for like, 200 bucks |
| 16:09 | < afny|mac> | ...RICHARD HAWK... |
| 16:09 | < afny|mac> | Oh wow is there a Two Best Friends LP for it? |
| 16:09 | < KarolineDianne> | Yes |
| 16:09 | < afny|mac> | I never actively seek out LPs because I would just watch them constantly |
| 16:09 | < afny|mac> | I must watch iiiit |
| 16:09 | < KarolineDianne> | But I knew about it before then. |
| 16:10 | < KarolineDianne> | lololol |
| 16:10 | < afny|mac> | AHHHHYOUGOTMEEEEEEEE |
| 16:10 | < KarolineDianne> | wat? xD |
| 16:10 | < afny|mac> | I was just watching the Richard vs. Michael battle |
| 16:11 | < afny|mac> | at the end, when Michael goes down, he yells AAHHHHYOUGOTMEEEEE |
| 16:11 | < KarolineDianne> | I find it hilarious that the most AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! game ever was made by Japan, and wasn't even released in America |
| 16:12 | < afny|mac> | they really missed a goldmine |
| 16:12 | < KarolineDianne> | Ameeeeericaaaaaah... |
| 16:12 | < KarolineDianne> | Ameeeeeeeeeriiiicaaaaaaaaaah.... |
| 16:14 | < KarolineDianne> | Best use of that song ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu_XV6kvOI4 |
| 16:20 | < afny|mac> | afkish making breakfast |
| 16:21 | | * KarolineDianne nods |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | oh |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | so earlier you said |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | you didn't know what VOTOMS was |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | I didn't either! |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | It's an old mech anime that inspired a LOT of the aesthetic for MFZ |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | It's very real-robots hard sci-fi, none of that super saiyan funny business |
| 16:27 | < afny|mac> | but it's also very 80's. |
| 16:28 | < afny|mac> | I've eight episodes in |
| 16:28 | < afny|mac> | I'm* |
| 16:28 | < KarolineDianne> | Oh? |
| 16:29 | < afny|mac> | Basically, yeah. So far it's sort of like Fist of the North Star but with Mobile Frames. |
| 16:31 | < KarolineDianne> | Isn't FotNS full of super saiyan funny business? |
| 16:31 | < KarolineDianne> | Like punching people in the face and their heads exploding? |
| 16:32 | < afny|mac> | Yeah, I suppose so. The setting and animation are similar, and although there is no head exploding, the main character is just a really good AT pilot |
| 16:32 | < afny|mac> | so it's SORT of like Kenshiro just blowing up everyone's head? |
| 16:32 | < afny|mac> | But slightly more believable because he's just using a giant robot. |
| 16:33 | < afny|mac> | He's definitely not invincible, though. All the characters are pretty believable so far. |
| 16:33 | | * KarolineDianne nods |
| 16:34 | < afny|mac> | It's hard to say since I'm not very far in, but I've really enjoyed it so far. Its pacing is better than most modern anime/cartoons |
| 16:37 | | * KarolineDianne nods |
| 16:37 | | * KarolineDianne giggles at this http://www.twogag.com/archives/134 |
| 16:42 | < afny|mac> | In my experience badminton actually increases stress |
| 16:42 | < afny|mac> | fucking shuttlecocks. |
| 16:44 | < afny|mac> | I guess some people call them "birdies" |
| 16:45 | < KarolineDianne> | lol |
| 16:46 | < afny|mac> | gonna go make some bread dough |
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| 18:31 | < Soren> | FWIW, VOTOMS doesn't really pick up until the Kummen Jungle storyline. Then it gets awesome fast. |
| 18:32 | < afny|mac> | Roundabouts what time does that start? |
| 18:32 | < Soren> | episode 14 or so. |
| 18:32 | < afny|mac> | Ah, not too far then. I dig it already just because of the character designs and the shitty cel animation |
| 18:33 | < afny|mac> | Vanilla is basically the best. |
| 18:33 | < Soren> | the city story is a good introduction, but it's probably the weakest of the four arcs. |
| 18:33 | < Soren> | He really is. |
| 18:33 | < Soren> | I had to argue with Joshua a fair bit before he'd watch it with me, but holy fuck did he love it. |
| 18:34 | < Soren> | I was pretty adamant about wringing the important elements out of the genre and not just OH Hey, Giant Robots. |
| 18:34 | < afny|mac> | Definitely a good idea to push for depth |
| 18:34 | < Soren> | I was pretty set on not making Another Clueless White Guy Mecha Game. |
| 18:35 | < Soren> | One Jovian Chronicles i enough, I think. |
| 18:35 | < Soren> | is* |
| 18:59 | < Ceddo> | Yay, Soren & Afny. |
| 18:59 | < Ceddo> | Two of my favourite people in this IRC channel |
| 19:00 | < Soren> | hey! |
| 19:01 | < afny|mac> | :A |
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| 19:11 | < afny|mac> | hurgh |
| 19:12 | < afny|mac> | I got my 360 controller working on my mac, and all the buttons work in the profile, but nothing but the analog stick works in Bastion... |
| 19:12 | < afny|mac> | Also Ced, got my first Bricklinks order in. Sweet, sweet Travis. |
| 19:12 | < afny|mac> | BUT STILL NO TAPS. |
| 19:14 | < afny|mac> | hmm...this is a common issue, apparently, and it maps the face buttons to the dpad...this sucks |
| 19:14 | < Soren> | irritating. |
| 19:14 | < afny|mac> | I guess its fixed in the steam version |
| 19:14 | < afny|mac> | but not the app store version |
| 19:14 | < afny|mac> | :\ |
| 19:17 | < afny|mac> | Oh well, who plays videogames anymore anyway. Time to watch anime. |
| 19:22 | < afny|mac> | is there a way to easily attach those wheels with axle holes smaller than a technic peg to things? |
| 19:22 | < afny|mac> | I can't figure one out |
| 19:25 | < Soren> | there are a couple. |
| 19:26 | < Soren> | but first, which parts are we talking about? |
| 19:27 | < Soren> | attaching stuff with technic axle holes is pretty easy. Anything else... can get tricky. |
| 19:30 | < afny|mac> | none of these have them...here, I'll just snap a pic of the kind of wheels I have so I dont have to hunt them down on bricklink. |
| 19:30 | < Soren> | sure |
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| 19:32 | < afny> | http://i.imgur.com/X0f8k.jpg?1 |
| 19:32 | < afny|mac> | I found them mostly on plates with build in axles |
| 19:32 | < afny|mac> | pretty old style |
| 19:33 | < Soren> | Ah, these fuckers. |
| 19:33 | < Soren> | Well, for starters, the one in the top left, you can push a 1x1 round plate into. |
| 19:34 | < afny|mac> | oh! |
| 19:34 | < afny|mac> | I never would've thought of that |
| 19:34 | < Soren> | the other ones will take anything 3mm in diameter, although it's a crapshoot whether or not they'll have enough tension. |
| 19:34 | < Soren> | Give it a shot. It makes a great little sensor. |
| 19:35 | < Ceddo> | I got about 25 Travis bricks today. |
| 19:35 | < Ceddo> | I HAVE ONE LEFT. |
| 19:35 | < Ceddo> | DAMN. |
| 19:36 | < afny|mac> | this is exactly the reason for my 5 travis rule |
| 19:36 | < Ceddo> | But then again, I added two more of them to my Elder Naga. |
| 19:36 | < Ceddo> | And made the feet beefier. |
| 19:39 | < Ceddo> | Afny. |
| 19:39 | < Ceddo> | The 1x1 tan tile is a scanner. |
| 19:39 | < Ceddo> | The stuff the fiddler holds is just random shit. |
| 19:39 | < Ceddo> | Because he actually CAN hold stuff while he mows things down. |
| 19:39 | < Ceddo> | Like, a Chub can shoot and stuff, but he doesn't have a second pair of arms to carry shit as he engages in a fire fight. |
| 19:39 | < Ceddo> | That's the whole reason behind the TRex arms. |
| 19:40 | < afny|mac> | I mean |
| 19:40 | < afny|mac> | the CAPACITY to hold things is awesome |
| 19:40 | < afny|mac> | and the things its holding do look cool |
| 19:40 | < afny|mac> | but it makes it look like he's got a geiger counter and he's afraid of radiation or something |
| 19:41 | < afny|mac> | as opposed to charging in and not giving a fuck |
| 19:41 | < afny|mac> | they're both good looks. |
| 19:45 | < afny> | So I could've used that wheel technology for good |
| 19:45 | < afny> | but instead I used it to make one of my Chubs look like a racecar. |
| 19:45 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7274670110/in/photostream |
| 19:48 | < Soren> | hah |
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| 20:42 | | * Soren waves |
| 20:42 | | * KarolineDianne wave wave |
| 20:45 | < afny|mac> | hallo |
| 20:45 | < KarolineDianne> | Salute |
| 21:00 | < KarolineDianne> | Anything going on? |
| 21:01 | < afny|mac> | i'm drawing one of trilobite's characters |
| 21:02 | < Soren> | I'm building melee weapons. |
| 21:02 | < KarolineDianne> | brb moving mah car |
| 21:08 | | * KarolineDianne returns |
| 21:09 | < Soren> | You know, I think I've probably got enough parts to take a shot at a Dendrobium-type unit. |
| 21:10 | < Soren> | I love me some ridiculous missile storms. |
| 21:11 | < Soren> | (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/0083/rx-78gp03.htm for the sadly uninformed) |
| 21:11 | < KarolineDianne> | I don't understand |
| 21:12 | < afny|mac> | its a gundam that shoots a bazillion missiles |
| 21:12 | < afny|mac> | but its from the gundam universe without the horses in spandex |
| 21:12 | < Soren> | It's a gigantic booster/weapons container/general support system locked to a comparatively tiny robot. |
| 21:12 | < afny|mac> | so it isnt racist. |
| 21:12 | < Soren> | hee. |
| 21:13 | < Soren> | It's designed for shooting down entire fleets. |
| 21:13 | < afny|mac> | if you complete it |
| 21:13 | < afny|mac> | you should do a custom campaign with vincent's vector rules where you play the dendrobium and have like 8+ SSR |
| 21:13 | < Soren> | and/or have enough ammo. |
| 21:13 | < afny|mac> | and a bunch of people team up to fight you |
| 21:13 | < Soren> | I've played around with some concepts there, yeah. |
| 21:16 | < Soren> | I'm just a fan of ridiculous, excessive firepower on that scale. |
| 21:16 | < afny|mac> | me too, especially if its missiles |
| 21:16 | < afny|mac> | that split into MORE missiles |
| 21:16 | < afny|mac> | after they fire. |
| 21:16 | < Soren> | Mostly because the immediate question is 'Okay, how do I stop him?' |
| 21:16 | < Soren> | hell yes. |
| 21:17 | | * KarolineDianne is rather against most ridiculous things. |
| 21:17 | < Soren> | That's a shame. |
| 21:17 | < KarolineDianne> | :I |
| 21:17 | < afny|mac> | to be honest it isn't ALL that ridiculous |
| 21:17 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm the boring srs bznz type. |
| 21:17 | < afny|mac> | I mean it's ridiculous but it's basically just a spaceship LOADED with missiles |
| 21:17 | < afny|mac> | piloted by a gundam |
| 21:17 | < Soren> | in the grand scale of giant robot ridiculousness, no. |
| 21:18 | < afny|mac> | It's OVERKILL, yeah, and maybe a case of putting all your munitions in one basket |
| 21:18 | < Soren> | And, I mean, it does run out of ammp. |
| 21:18 | < Soren> | ammo* |
| 21:18 | < afny|mac> | it isn't the stupidest weapon in UC, though |
| 21:18 | < KarolineDianne> | Seems silly that it's piloted by the gundam and not just... A normal battleship. |
| 21:18 | < KarolineDianne> | I mean... |
| 21:19 | < afny|mac> | yeah but when it runs out of ammo, it can leave the booster and fight as a mobile suit |
| 21:19 | < Soren> | hardly. It's one of the better ones, actually, and it's super weird that nobody ever developed the concept again or further. |
| 21:19 | < KarolineDianne> | Yo dawg. I herd you liek giant vehicles, so we put a giant robot in your spaceship so you can pilot while you pilot. |
| 21:19 | < afny|mac> | I want to make a Psycho Gundam style frame...just take something like the Rumble Monkey and attempt to scale it up by 2.5x...and cover its torso with weapons |
| 21:20 | < Soren> | I approve. |
| 21:20 | < afny|mac> | I'm going to work on it soon...it may use a bionicle mask. Maybe. |
| 21:21 | < Soren> | You may want to hold off until we can get our eventual Gundam pastiche together. |
| 21:21 | < afny|mac> | I'm not sure I actually have the bricks for anything that articulate at anything but microscale at the moment anyway |
| 21:22 | | * KarolineDianne will stick to her more logical Walking Tank style stuff, and stay away from silly anime over-the-top-ness. :P |
| 21:23 | < Soren> | Mmm, good luck with that. |
| 21:23 | < afny|mac> | I don't think the Dendrobium ever "walked" |
| 21:23 | < afny|mac> | space operation only |
| 21:23 | < Soren> | Best argument for giant robots: they're cool. Best argument against giant robots: target silhouette. |
| 21:24 | < Soren> | You can argue for a particular flavor of cool, but logic dictates that the tanks we already have are probably too tall to survive, let alone something that stands upright. |
| 21:25 | < afny|mac> | that's why giant robots are actually MORE believable in space |
| 21:25 | < afny|mac> | they're the logical conclusion of the shuttle manipulator arm |
| 21:25 | < KarolineDianne> | I tend to prefer my stuff grounded in reality. Sure, mechs don't make sense at all when compared to modern tanks, but a one of those VT's from Steel Battallion makes a lot more sense compared to Wing Gundam. |
| 21:26 | < Soren> | Only in the sense that, if you can get a weapons close enough for target silhouettes to matter, you've won half the battle. |
| 21:26 | < Soren> | Not really. |
| 21:26 | < Soren> | Given a choice, I'm going to go with the one that can pick itself up when it falls over. |
| 21:28 | < Soren> | Once you start getting up over the 3m height range, you're not going to be a target for potshots from other armor. You've going to get obliterated by guided missiles from a continent away. |
| 21:28 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm pretty sure a heavy, lumbering war machine with a low center of gravity makes a lot more sense than a 100ft tall brightly colored humanoid robot that flies around and swings a laser-sword. |
| 21:28 | < Soren> | It's got a greater verisimilitude, but reality has left the building hours ago in both cases. |
| 21:29 | < KarolineDianne> | Verisimilitude...? |
| 21:29 | < Soren> | the feeling or quality of reality |
| 21:29 | < Soren> | making something believable in its own terms. |
| 21:30 | < KarolineDianne> | Well yes. And that's what I want. I know it's fantasy, but I can buy it more because it -feels- realistic. At least moreso than gundams do. It's, as Stephen Colbert has said, 'Truthy'. Not really true, but it 'feels' true. |
| 21:30 | < afny|mac> | I don't know, I think at a certain point you're just applying a sepia filter and saying "now it's gritty". |
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| 21:31 | < Soren> | afny: yeah, usually. |
| 21:31 | < KarolineDianne> | Like how Mass Effect supports pretty much all of their sci-fi stuff with real-world physica that kinda make sense. |
| 21:31 | < KarolineDianne> | I like that. |
| 21:31 | < Soren> | I never defend my love for UC Gundam on the basis of technical or physical realism, because that's silly. I defend it because they tell great stories with a human core |
| 21:32 | < Soren> | Mass Effect has FTL, which is magic. |
| 21:32 | < Soren> | We forget that FTL travel is magic, because it's so prevalent in science fiction that we just treat it as background. |
| 21:32 | < Soren> | But it's a thousand times more bulshit than just about anything else in science fiction. |
| 21:32 | < afny|mac> | That's why I love Gunbuster |
| 21:32 | < Soren> | +l |
| 21:33 | < afny|mac> | But even SUPER credible hard sci-fi isn't good because it's super credible or true to life |
| 21:33 | < afny|mac> | the believability of any background is only as good as the story you put in front of it |
| 21:33 | < Soren> | Yeah, that's a great case of ten thousand pounds of made-up monkeyshit that does what made-up monkeyshit needs to do: support and enhance the story. |
| 21:34 | < Soren> | I've always felt that it's important to hang some lampshades to avoid confusing people, too. It's why I don;t use real star locations in the MFZ starmap and there are no distances marked. |
| 21:34 | < afny|mac> | Okay, was that term used in regards to storytelling BEFORE the advent of TVtropes |
| 21:35 | < Soren> | I could go do the math, measure things out, and be precise as humanly possible... and still be wrong. This way, I'm not misleading anybody in my wrongness. |
| 21:35 | | * KarolineDianne shrugs... |
| 21:35 | < Soren> | I'm pretty sure. |
| 21:35 | < KarolineDianne> | I just really don't like things that are too ridicilous and unbelievable. |
| 21:35 | < KarolineDianne> | At all. |
| 21:35 | < afny|mac> | Well it's a useful term, but I only learned about it recently thanks to that site. |
| 21:35 | < Soren> | Sure, neither do I. But we have different definitions of ridiculous and unbelievable. |
| 21:36 | < Soren> | Also In my experience people who say that about Gundam are laughably unfamiliar with it. |
| 21:36 | < afny|mac> | I don't like stuff that can't follow its OWN rules. THAT'S when things not being "believable" bugs me. |
| 21:36 | < afny|mac> | But if a setting can clearly and artfully establish its own boundaries and then use them to flesh out a story, I don't care what those boundaries are. |
| 21:37 | < Soren> | I find that what tends to offend me the most is psychological unbelievability |
| 21:37 | < Soren> | Where I know from direct experience that humans don't behave the way the writer needs them to. |
| 21:38 | < afny|mac> | Definitely, and I think that's pretty common for most people. I mean, we have more reference material for human interaction than we do for practically any setting |
| 21:38 | < Soren> | Yeah. |
| 21:38 | < Soren> | it's why a lot of stuff labeled 'hard science fiction' isn't really. |
| 21:38 | < KarolineDianne> | For example, Gurann Lagann... Or TTGL... That show is utter crap in my eyes. I can't stand it. It's so ungodly ridiculous, silly, and retardedly nonsensical that I can't tolerate it in the slightest. |
| 21:38 | < Soren> | Haven't seen, don't have an opinion. |
| 21:38 | < afny|mac> | To be fair, a lot of the appeal of Gurann Lagann is in the animation. |
| 21:38 | < Soren> | But psionics are garbage, for example. |
| 21:39 | < afny|mac> | but that's ACTUALLY an example of stuff that is ALL handwavey magic. |
| 21:39 | < Soren> | I hate fakey grit, myself. |
| 21:39 | < Soren> | WH40K is fakey grit. |
| 21:39 | < Soren> | I can't take that shit seriously, or make myself care about it. |
| 21:39 | < afny|mac> | UC Gundam is NOTHING like Gurann Lagann. GL doesn't even ATTEMPT to be serious. They increase mech size EXPONENTIALLY as the series progresses. |
| 21:40 | < KarolineDianne> | Yeah. I read about the galaxy sized robot and I totally disowned any concept of interest in the series forever. |
| 21:40 | < afny|mac> | It's pretty good, but again I like it because of the animation. |
| 21:40 | < Soren> | Gainax is pretty well-known for fucking around with the tropes of any genre they attempt pretty hard. |
| 21:40 | < Soren> | I'm sure I'll enjoy it when I get around to it. |
| 21:40 | < afny|mac> | Yeah, Gainax is pretty self-aware. |
| 21:40 | < Soren> | ...but my favorite Gainax show is, and probably forever will be, Nadia. |
| 21:41 | < afny|mac> | I haven |
| 21:41 | < afny|mac> | 't seen it! |
| 21:41 | < afny|mac> | It's on my list, I've sort of been saving it. |
| 21:41 | < Soren> | Go. Watch. There are some episodes in the middle that kinda suck, but it's so fucking awsome. |
| 21:41 | < Soren> | awesome* |
| 21:41 | < Soren> | so awesome I can;t spell. |
| 21:42 | < afny|mac> | I love anything Anno does |
| 21:42 | < Soren> | It's also an homage to terrible old Toho FX, so. |
| 21:42 | < Soren> | I forget how involved he was with it. |
| 21:42 | < Soren> | I definitely prefer pre-Eva Gainax to post- |
| 21:43 | < afny|mac> | I haven't seen that much stuff post Eva I guess |
| 21:43 | < afny|mac> | hm, I've seen... |
| 21:43 | < Soren> | I think they never really got up the courage to do something they really loved after Eva. |
| 21:43 | < Soren> | It's really sad. |
| 21:43 | < afny|mac> | EVA, obviously...Gurren Lagaan...Wings of Honneamise, which is SICK |
| 21:44 | < Soren> | Honneamise was their first movie. |
| 21:44 | < Soren> | 1987. |
| 21:44 | < afny|mac> | The Bebop movie, Gunbuster, Diebuster, the EVA rebuilds...FLCL... |
| 21:44 | < afny|mac> | yeah, I'm just listing any gainax thing I can think of |
| 21:44 | < Soren> | I actually have some of their con shorts, which were the only animation they did before the Honneamise pitch film. |
| 21:45 | < afny|mac> | Wow, what's in them? |
| 21:45 | | * KarolineDianne just sticks to her lumbering, walking tanks and dismisses all the silly anime stuff as not worth her attention. |
| 21:45 | < KarolineDianne> | :I |
| 21:45 | < afny|mac> | The Wings of Honnemise isn't even about robots, it's about space flight |
| 21:45 | < Soren> | miscellaneous dorkery. |
| 21:45 | < Soren> | Karoline: I think we moved on from trying to persuade you of things you don't want to think about. |
| 21:46 | < Soren> | Pretty fast. |
| 21:46 | < afny|mac> | Yes, mostly because you don't want to think about a lot of things. |
| 21:46 | | * KarolineDianne rolls around. :I |
| 21:46 | < afny|mac> | Also: Armored Core is pretty anime. |
| 21:46 | < KarolineDianne> | Which is why I vastly preferred Chrome Hounds to Armored Core |
| 21:46 | < Soren> | With Kawamori mecha? yes, yes it is. |
| 21:46 | < afny|mac> | But you didn't even play the mutiplayeerrr it was so good |
| 21:46 | < KarolineDianne> | I didn't have xbox liiiive |
| 21:46 | < afny|mac> | I'm in distress about it. Again! |
| 21:46 | < afny|mac> | AGAIN. |
| 21:47 | < KarolineDianne> | I don't pay for internet that we already pay for |
| 21:47 | < Soren> | I wonder if she'd like Legend Of Galactic Heroes? |
| 21:47 | < Soren> | Let me see what Youtube has. |
| 21:48 | | * KarolineDianne apologizes for being so very vocal about her preferences... ^^; |
| 21:48 | < Soren> | No need. |
| 21:48 | < Soren> | I'm pretty vocal about mine. |
| 21:49 | < Soren> | Now, if you make assertions I think are false, I'll probably make fun of them. |
| 21:49 | < Soren> | But that's the limit of my investment. |
| 21:49 | < KarolineDianne> | :I |
| 21:50 | < Soren> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_au5752IXY here, everybody click. |
| 21:50 | < afny|mac> | Can't be standin' for ignorance. |
| 21:50 | < KarolineDianne> | I recognize this art style... |
| 21:51 | < Soren> | I forget the studio. They did a pretty impressive job, all things considered. |
| 21:52 | < afny|mac> | that bridge officer's mustache... |
| 21:53 | < afny|mac> | ...it's...exquisite. |
| 21:53 | < Soren> | There's some epic facial hair. |
| 21:53 | < Soren> | SIDEBURNS OF RIGHTEOUS AUTHORITY |
| 21:53 | < afny|mac> | +1 CHA |
| 21:56 | < afny|mac> | A TELESCOAP VIEW |
| 21:58 | < Soren> | ...also some truly incredible engrish |
| 21:59 | < KarolineDianne> | So much pewpew |
| 22:01 | < KarolineDianne> | Our losses... 18000 ships and 2 million casualties. But still fewer than our enemy... Wow, great. |
| 22:01 | < afny> | Big ships. Lots of them. |
| 22:01 | < KarolineDianne> | They say that so calmly |
| 22:01 | < afny> | I love bow-mounted beam weapons. |
| 22:01 | < afny> | Definitely see where this ship got some of its style: http://images.wikia.com/eve/images/d/dc/Hyperion3.jpg |
| 22:02 | < Soren> | EVE has always sounded like something I might like, and yet the spaceships are so ugly. |
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| 22:03 | | * KarolineDianne shrugs |
| 22:03 | < KarolineDianne> | Eve is super-complex and overbearing, I could never get into it. |
| 22:03 | < Soren> | I have a hard time caring about games that penalize me for wanting to have a life, period. |
| 22:03 | < Soren> | whether it's by time demands or complexity. |
| 22:03 | < KarolineDianne> | I dislike MMO's in general. I only ever play solo. |
| 22:03 | < afny> | I couldn't get into it either, I just like the ships. |
| 22:04 | < Soren> | http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/macross7/varauta-highspeedspacecruiser.htm I would have angled for it being this guy. |
| 22:04 | < afny> | I like it in THEORY, I guess. |
| 22:04 | < KarolineDianne> | Eve is a great concept and I can truly appreciate the work put into it, but I can't play it. |
| 22:04 | < Soren> | as long as Escape Velocity still runs on a machine I own, I think I've got all the spaceship I need. |
| 22:05 | < KarolineDianne> | I'm gonna head off. Gonna try to get some Dragon's Dogma in today. |
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| 22:05 | < Soren> | I'm going to be a little distracted. I has a bricklinks. |
| 22:05 | < afny|mac> | Nice. I might work on some terrain, actually |
| 22:05 | < afny|mac> | or at least start sorting out large gray bricks |
| 22:05 | < Soren> | excellent. |
| 22:06 | < Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/PL/3626bpb124.jpg?0 This is the best face ever. |
| 22:06 | < Soren> | INTREPID INTERNAUT |
| 22:07 | < afny|mac> | Oh god. |
| 22:07 | < afny|mac> | Is that really what it's called? |
| 22:07 | < Soren> | I SHALL DESCEND FROM THE HIGEST BLOGOSPHERE, FAIR MAIDEN, AND RESCUE YOU FROM YOUR TROUBLE |
| 22:07 | < Soren> | no, that's just why I got ne. |
| 22:07 | < Soren> | one* |
| 22:07 | < Soren> | http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=3626bpb124 my name for him is way better. |
| 22:07 | < afny|mac> | Hah, yes. |
| 22:07 | < afny|mac> | Yes it is. |
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| 22:10 | < afny|mac> | Have you ever used black paper as a lightbox background? |
| 22:10 | < afny|mac> | Thinking about reshooting my ships in black before I break them down |
| 22:11 | < Soren> | I have. |
| 22:11 | < Soren> | It looks pretty good. |
| 22:13 | < afny|mac> | Gonna get some bigger bulbs and try it...mine aren't very bright, and without the reflection from the paper I think it'll be too dark |
| 22:13 | < afny|mac> | my camera is shit, also |
| 22:14 | < afny|mac> | It's like the Brownie of digital cameras |
| 22:44 | < Soren> | So purple Ijad look pretty fucking sweet, for the record. |
| 22:54 | < afny|mac> | what's the other color? |
| 22:54 | < afny|mac> | dark blay? |
| 22:54 | < Soren> | light, actually. |
| 22:54 | < afny|mac> | nice |
| 22:55 | < Soren> | Yeah, I love 'em |
| 22:55 | < Soren> | gonna see if I can get them finished up and then, pictures. |
| 23:01 | < afny|mac> | hey, what's the status of nukes in the solar calender? |
| 23:02 | < Soren> | They're out there, and we have can clean up after them better, but not popular or commonly used. |
| 23:03 | < Soren> | large-space combat might be a different story, but there isn't a lot of that as of where we start on the timeline. |
| 23:03 | < Soren> | It's definitely a big deal to let one rip. |
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