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| 06:26 | <@macdjord> | simon_: I'm pretty sure there are at least some situations where that's technically true. E.g., in Python, defining a variable means updating the current scope's list of defined variable, whereas an unstored intermediate value does not, so the one-liner will be at least theoretically faster. |
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| 08:19 | <&McMartin> | Blech |
| 08:19 | <&McMartin> | This NES project is getting frustrating |
| 08:19 | <&McMartin> | I'm actually being tempted into Zachtronics nonsense instead. |
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| 11:36 | < simon_> | McMartin, this was Rust, and the variable assignment was adjacent to its use, so I'd expect liveness analysis to kick in and never actually move the value from the register associated with the variable. i.e., 'let x = 42; f(x);' is equivalent to 'f(42);' |
| 11:37 | < simon_> | gnolam, no, but amusingly, I had a colleague named Seb who made a contribution to an open-source web-framework in Perl where the author rejected his PR because it used variables. :-D |
| 11:38 | <@gnolam> | >_< |
| 11:44 | < simon_> | https://github.com/mojolicious/mojo/pull/1414#issuecomment-643771815 -- this PR took 9 months; ultimately, the blocker was the removal of one 'return undef;' that was never reached anyway, and the naming of some variables that could be avoided by explicitly referring to the content of the variables. |
| 11:47 | < simon_> | the PR was about DOM tree traversal and it wasn't particularly easy, because the convention of what type of DOM node you're in is determined by how many elements some array has. I'm pretty sure the problem was that the project owner didn't understand the code very well and neither wanted to merge something he didn't understand, or admit that he didn't understand it. so he just criticised the PR and didn't |
| 11:47 | < simon_> | provide any useful feedback, until eventually he had time to sit down, read it through, make some minor, unimportant tweaks to it, and call it his own. |
| 11:49 | <~Vorntastic> | Man, Seb |
| 11:50 | < simon_> | oh, wait... actually both the PR author and the project owner are called Seb there. |
| 11:51 | < simon_> | Sebastian Paaske Tørholm and Sebastian Riedel. |
| 11:51 | < simon_> | battle of the Sebs |
| 11:51 | < simon_> | I tried a similar thing, contributing to a C# library where the feedback I got was "this is wrong", saw the PR closed, and then a few hours later, saw my exact changes with some small syntactic variations committed to master. |
| 11:51 | < simon_> | some people just don't want contributions from the outside, but don't know how to disable PRs. |
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| 13:25 | < abudhabi__> | Meanwhile, I have a strong suspicion that some idiotic subroutine is very frequently checking the photo file index on my phone. |
| 13:25 | < abudhabi__> | KaiOS mysteriously and gradually slowed down, but when I dumped all the multimedia I'd accrued over half a year, it started working fine again. |
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| 19:25 | | * FLHerne mutters angrily |
| 19:25 | < FLHerne> | basically, we have these thousand-line files that were generated using some Python script ten years ago |
| 19:26 | < FLHerne> | the thing they were generated from has changed continuously, but all the changes have been made by hand in unstructured ways, and the original script has vanished |
| 19:27 | < FLHerne> | so now that big changes are required, I can't simply re-generate the thing - even if I had a script, the unstructured changes are depended on by like half the codebase and generating it in the original way would break everything |
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| 22:03 | < simon_> | FLHerne, >_< |
| 22:05 | | * simon_ is playing around with optimizing prime-field arithmetic. I never knew the modulo instruction was so expensive! |
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