code logs -> 2021 -> Sun, 07 Feb 2021< code.20210206.log - code.20210208.log >
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12:37 * TheWatcher stabs visual studio c# documentation comments
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12:39
<@TheWatcher>
With doxygen comments, I can do `int foo; ///< The amount of foo in the bar` - fuck if I can find a way to do this with xml comments
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< catalyst>
I've not figured out how to make VS spit out built documentation from a C# project
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< catalyst>
Rust is just the best
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< catalyst>
everything should be like cargo
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<@ErikMesoy>
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of each of the people who worked to implement "you cannot copy text from this document" in googledocs.
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< abudhabi>
Yes.
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<&[R]>
I've been tempted to tempted to try Knuth's documentation code thing
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<&[R]>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literate_programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_(programming_system)
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< john_cephalopoda>
The RETRO Forth language is designed with something like that. The file is text by default and code is embedded between lines of "~~~", like this: https://cuttle.space/tmp/rasc-x86.txt
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< john_cephalopoda>
There is also an html exporter that makes it look very pretty. For the file above, that would look like this: https://cuttle.space/tmp/rasc-x86.html
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< john_cephalopoda>
Hm, the uses of VR and HMDs are currently very limited, and the support on Linux is not very good.
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< john_cephalopoda>
I got an HMD and tried it on Windows before. The only things that really works is the virtual house with giant netflix cinema in Microsoft's Mixed Reality Portal.
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< john_cephalopoda>
There aren't many games. There are like 10 demos for some rail shooters available though.
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< john_cephalopoda>
From my point of view, the best use for an HMD these days is having a bunch of virtual screens floating around.
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<&McMartin>
R: There is a modern iteration of WEB that was designed to scale much more drastically
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<&McMartin>
Except I can't find my links to it
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<&McMartin>
(The Inform 7 text adventure language was originally built in WEB, then grew beyond it and ultimately its creator had to make a new WEB-like system that could scale sufficiently.)
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<&McMartin>
(Happily its own source code describes this evolution and the need for it in detail!)
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<&McMartin>
Mmm. It's been taken down as part of the rewrite of the webpage, it looks like.
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<&McMartin>
I hvae it on web archive, but let's see if it moved...
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<&McMartin>
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322184538/http://inform7.com/sources/inweb/
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<&[R]>
john_cephalopoda: HMD?
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<&[R]>
McMartin: nice
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<&[R]>
I was also looking at noweb
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<&McMartin>
I think that comes up in inweb's prologue as well
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<&McMartin>
CBlorb is also a very nice bit of source.
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<&McMartin>
Ah yeah
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<&McMartin>
"When he wound up his short-lived Literate Programming column in CACM (vol. 33, no. 3, 1990), Christopher Wyk made the perceptive criticism of LP that "no one has yet volunteered to write a program using another's system for literate programming". Well, we haven't, either: we use our own inweb, rather than Knuth's CWEB or more modern alternatives like Norman Ramsey's noweb. As a program inweb is not
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<&McMartin>
especially interesting; it's both a simplification of CWEB, removing unwanted gadgets and distracting typography, and also an extension, providing for much larger projects with more internal structure, and for languages other than C"
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<&McMartin>
I have joked in the past that there are perhaps five people I trust to write Perl code.
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<&McMartin>
To the extent that it is not a joke, the author of inweb is one of them, and our own TheWatcher is another.
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<&McMartin>
I have also said, and I'm not sure the degree to which it is a joke, that a lot of the code-walkthrough articles I've written for my tech blog are basically artifacts of literate programming, but in assembly language.
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< john_cephalopoda>
[R]: HMD = Head-Mounted Display
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< john_cephalopoda>
In my case a Windows Mixed Reality headset by Fujitsu.
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<&McMartin>
https://imgur.com/gallery/MPSo00X
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< john_cephalopoda>
Hmm, considering to switch distros.
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<&[R]>
What are you on now, and what problems are you having?
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< john_cephalopoda>
Currently on CRUX. No serious problems, just a bit annoyed by the limited number of available packages sometimes. Writing ones myself is simple but it's always a bit of a hurdle to take.
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< john_cephalopoda>
Hm, getting late. Night.
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<&[R]>
Immediate thoughts are either Void Linux or https://fleshless.org/pages/spark.html (if someone wants to share this when he gets back)
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<&[R]>
Otherwise Gentoo if he wants to continue compiling everything
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