code logs -> 2018 -> Tue, 01 May 2018< code.20180430.log - code.20180502.log >
--- Log opened Tue May 01 00:00:28 2018
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00:50
<&McMartin>
4GB doesn't go very far these days, even with Win7; what's your intended use case for this laptop?
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00:54
< Mahal>
I wouldn't pay for anything that's been used heavily for 7-8 years
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09:00
<@ErikMesoy>
https://twitter.com/webbedspace/status/990435704399253505
09:08
<&McMartin>
That looks suspiciously close to the list of ports we're hoping to drop in VICE 3.3.
09:31
<&[R]>
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/python_environment.png <-- wow. Also /usr/local/opt what?
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10:04
<@TheWatcher>
[R]: thing is, that's real - it's created by Homebrew
10:05
<&[R]>
Ah
10:05
<&McMartin>
yes >_<
10:05
<&McMartin>
Infests all your binaries like a wasting disease
10:09
<&[R]>
What does?
10:10
<&McMartin>
homebrew's /usr/local/opt libraries
10:10
<&McMartin>
Xcode tends to mislink things when they exist
10:10
<&[R]>
Ah
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11:34
< simon_>
do any of you use ack instead of grep?
11:34
< simon_>
I'm trying to create some nice default behavior when wanting to pipe its output to less.
11:35
<&[R]>
Like what?
11:36
<&[R]>
Also did you mean awk?
11:36
< simon_>
no, ack. https://beyondgrep.com/
11:37
< simon_>
'ack foo' gives some nice, colored output. piping it to less removes that output, but ack has --pager='less -R'. less also supports --quit-if-one-screen (-F), but if I use this in combination with ack, nothing is printed.
11:38
< simon_>
the closest to what I want that I've found is this: ack --color --break --group --flush | less -R -F, but this quickly prints my search results and reverts the terminal back to what it looked like before the results.
11:38
< simon_>
sorry, ack foo --etc.
11:39
< simon_>
I guess I'll just have an alias ackless='ack --pager="less -R"' and switch between ack and ackless depending on whether I want a pager. it would be nicer if less could determine if I wanted one (depending on the number of lines).
11:40
< simon_>
ahhh... less --no-init avoids what the man page calls "termcap initialization and deinitialization strings".
11:41
< simon_>
this almost works perfectly: ack --flush --pager='less -R -F -X' foo
11:41
< simon_>
only drawback is that less won't print results simultaneously until it determines that there are too many to fit one screen or not.
11:42
< simon_>
(-R = preserve ANSI colors, -F = quit less if results fit one screen, -X = don't print termcap init/deinit strings)
11:43
<@Pi>
Even better than ack: Silver Searcher (at)
11:43
< simon_>
I saw it looking for ack documentation.
11:43
<@Pi>
(ag, even)
11:44
< simon_>
ooohhh, ag does parallelization!
12:40 Irssi: #code: Total of 34 nicks [25 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
12:40 * TheWatcher eyes some of the DroneBL examples
12:41
<@TheWatcher>
... this php-cli script is using regex to parse XML
12:41 * TheWatcher headdesks
12:58
< simon_>
TheWatcher, if php-cli were a StackOverflow question, I'd vote to close it.
12:58
< simon_>
TheWatcher, in fact, if I had the remote possibility, I'd vote to close it anyways.
12:58
<@TheWatcher>
That makes two of us.
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13:00
< simon_>
I recently started lurking in the 'regex' tag on StackOverflow, and that place is like a PHP support channel. every third question is about parsing HTML/JSON/some nested, non-regular markup language, and every other third is people not understanding the basic operators. -_- now I'm back to lurking in the 'sml' tag where only seasonal homework questions get asked.
13:00
<@TheWatcher>
(Later today I will be writing a DroneBL::XMLRPC module, probably to throw at CPAN. In part because I want such a thing for killbot, and in part because FFS why don't they already have this?)
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20:10
< simon_>
TheWatcher, what's killbot?
20:21
<&McMartin>
An attempt to shut up spammers on this network
20:35
<@abudhabi>
Do they have kill limits?
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23:02
<&McMartin>
https://twitter.com/rombulow/status/990684453734203392
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23:05
<@TheWatcher>
XD
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23:09
<~Vornicus>
I read that first tweet and went "oh no"
23:10
<~Vornicus>
and then everything that followed went exactly how I expected it to go
23:11
<&McMartin>
Hooray (?).
23:12
<~Vornicus>
Fortunately, that did not dampen my schadenfreude
23:12
<@Tamber>
XD
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