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| 02:55 | <&Derakon> | Our program at work has a few UIs that were made with Netbeans' form designer. |
| 02:55 | <&Derakon> | They work, but heaven help you if you want to modify them later without using said form designer~ |
| 03:01 | < Turaiel> | Lawdy help you if you want to create or modify any Java UI ever. |
| 03:01 | <&Derakon> | Ehh, I've made plenty. |
| 03:01 | <&Derakon> | It's verbose as hell, but it's not difficult. |
| 03:01 | <&Derakon> | JButton runButton = new JButton("Run"); runButton.addActionListener(new ActionListener() {@Override public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent e) {run();}}); |
| 03:02 | <&Derakon> | This is why I miss Python's lambdas. ;_; |
| 03:18 | <&McMartin> | ! |
| 03:18 | <&McMartin> | RIP Marvin Minsky |
| 03:18 | <&Derakon> | Who? |
| 03:19 | <&McMartin> | AI pioneer |
| 03:20 | <&Derakon> | Ahh. |
| 03:20 | <&Derakon> | I thought the name was familiar, but couldn't figure out why. |
| 03:26 | <@Reiv> | Not the basilisk one? |
| 03:27 | <&McMartin> | ... no |
| 03:27 | <&Derakon> | That was Roku, wasn't it? |
| 03:27 | <&McMartin> | Minsky was like 85. |
| 03:27 | <&Derakon> | Or Roko or something. |
| 03:28 | <@Reiv> | For some reason it reminded me |
| 03:29 | <&McMartin> | Minsky was an *actual* AI pioneer, not a poster on a forum wanking about recreating the old testament god in silicon |
| 03:30 | <&McMartin> | Still kind of a weirdo, as MIT's luminaries so often were, but~ |
| 03:32 | <@Reiv> | Fair |
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| 03:41 | <~Vornicus> | Minsky: pioneerof neural networks and The Useless Box. |
| 03:43 | <@Reiv> | the useless box |
| 03:44 | <~Vornicus> | you know the one. there's a switch on the outside, you flip it, a little arm pops out and flips the switch back. |
| 03:46 | <@Reiv> | oh, huh |
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| 11:37 | < catadroid> | Shit, I found a really good use for C++ exceptions |
| 11:49 | | * gnolam headdesks. |
| 11:50 | <@gnolam> | CW: "Hey, [program] is telling me I need to reactivate." |
| 11:50 | <@gnolam> | Me: "Did you change anything on your computer?" |
| 11:50 | <@gnolam> | CW: "No." |
| 11:50 | <@gnolam> | Me: "That's weird. It shouldn't do that. Guess I have to take a look." |
| 11:50 | <@gnolam> | [after troubleshooting] |
| 11:50 | <@gnolam> | CW: "Oh right, now that you mention it, [tech support guy] did replace my hard drive the other week..." |
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| 11:59 | < abudhabi> | Well, technically, the luser did not change anything. It was someone else. |
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| 13:07 | < Azash> | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/25/linux_foundation_scraps_individual_membe rship/ |
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| 15:06 | <@gnolam> | Ahahahahaha! It... actually works! |
| 15:10 | <@gnolam> | Things that are not fun to deal with: printing. |
| 15:10 | <@gnolam> | Things that that make it even worse: needing the output to match exactly what another program printed 20 years ago. |
| 15:15 | | * TheWatcher hums the theme song from M.A.S.H~ |
| 15:18 | <&jeroud> | gnolam: There's a computerphile video about pretty much exactly that. |
| 15:19 | <@gnolam> | TheWatcher: Oh, the thing that really starts you sorting your guns by barrel flavor is that the API is only partially implemented - naturally, with all the actually useful stuff missing - so if you want features like "different fonts/font sizes/weights/styles within a text string" (e.g. "<b>foo:</b> bar") you have to implement them yourself. |
| 15:22 | <@TheWatcher> | Of course >.< |
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| 16:31 | < Azash> | gnolam: My own personal favourite API is this third party hour reporting software |
| 16:31 | < Azash> | Which has the company's contracts, jobs, etc |
| 16:32 | < Azash> | Which are linked to employees with a many-to-many |
| 16:32 | < Azash> | The API offers "get employees by work id" |
| 16:32 | < Azash> | But it doesn't actually offer the opposite |
| 16:32 | < [R]> | So you can't find everyone who works on a project? |
| 16:34 | < Azash> | Oh you can |
| 16:34 | < Azash> | But if you want to find one employee's jobs |
| 16:34 | < Azash> | That's not available |
| 16:34 | < [R]> | Oh right |
| 16:34 | < [R]> | Derp de derp |
| 16:34 | < Azash> | (we ended up using a fairly rapidly expiring cache server in the middle to implement it for our own uses) |
| 16:35 | < Azash> | You know, if expired, fetch all jobs/users, not exactly a good solution but yeah |
| 16:35 | < [R]> | Is there a call that lists all the valid work IDs? |
| 16:35 | < Azash> | Yeah |
| 16:35 | < Azash> | You can get all jobs and get all employees |
| 16:35 | < [R]> | If so I'd just have something grab that, then iteratively list all employees from that and cache the results. |
| 16:35 | < Azash> | Well the thing is |
| 16:36 | < Azash> | You have to get all the jobs, and all the employees, to the cache box |
| 16:36 | < Azash> | Then you have to iterate through the jobs and for each one run "get people on this job" |
| 16:36 | < Azash> | And cache that |
| 16:36 | < [R]> | Yeah |
| 16:36 | < Azash> | Then you can use your own bespoke "get jobs for person x" |
| 16:36 | < Azash> | And it's just awful but we're stuck with it |
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| 20:44 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/chipotlecoyote/status/691018511557111808 |
| 20:47 | <&jerith> | gnolam: That's great. |
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