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| 01:52 | <@celticminstrel> | [Jan 20@5:31:55pm] [R]: This is why offline documentation wins. |
| 01:52 | <@celticminstrel> | And yet, somehow, when I look at documentation in XCode, I still sometimes get errors about moved pages and such, even though theoretically the documentation was downloaded and installed on my computer. :| |
| 01:52 | <@celticminstrel> | [Jan 20@5:33:04pm] [R]: Remember when offline documentation/help was called online documentation/help? |
| 01:52 | <@celticminstrel> | I still call it that sometimes. >_> |
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| 09:44 | <@gnolam> | ... and this ~80 mm x 25 mm label is taking up an entire A4. I have a slight suspicion that I messed up a size argument somewhere. >_> |
| 09:51 | <@TheWatcher> | https://twitter.com/FioraAeterna/status/689908645476184068 - this is urrently my world, also -_- |
| 09:52 | <@gnolam> | ;_; |
| 09:53 | <@TheWatcher> | (haet java so much) |
| 09:59 | <@TheWatcher> | (Although this is even more fun, because I'm trying to get gitlab, jenkins, gerrit, sonarqube, and cobertura to all work together, and because apparently nobody can do LDAP properly in java just getting auth to work properly is proving most hilarious and full of oauth) |
| 10:06 | <@TheWatcher> | (also, haet oauth so much) |
| 10:44 | <@TheWatcher> | ... well fuck me, it finally works. |
| 10:44 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, gerrit, jenkins, and gitlab are playing nice, anyway |
| 12:02 | | Irssi: #code: Total of 31 nicks [20 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] |
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| 13:50 | < abudhabi> | Hum. What's a cheap webcam that you can rotate remotely? |
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| 14:00 | <@TheWatcher> | https://twitter.com/julienXX/status/689224889602052096 - aahahahah -_-; |
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| 15:33 | < Nathanian> | hello |
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| 15:41 | <@celticminstrel> | I wish general-access websites would stop ceasing to function (or show error messages) when cookies are disabled. |
| 15:47 | < abudhabi> | Yes. |
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| 16:04 | <@gnolam> | Nghgngh |
| 16:04 | <@gnolam> | They've gone and made a better idiot. >_< |
| 16:11 | <@celticminstrel> | Uh-oh. |
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| 17:57 | <&ToxicFrog> | This is probably pointless bikeshedding, but I can't decide whether a map generator should be something that takes an existing map entity and fills it in, or something that creates a map ex nihilo and returns it. |
| 17:58 | <@Syloq> | Yes. |
| 17:58 | <&jerith> | I'm inclined toward the latter unless there's a good reason to do otherwise. |
| 18:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | jerith: the main argument in favour of the former is that then it decouples properties of the map (which the generator may be interested in) from properties of the generator (which *only* the generator is interested in) |
| 18:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | E.g. properties like map name the generator doesn't care about, but that property needs to make it into the map entity |
| 18:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | While at the same time things like starting room and minimum density are irrelevant once generation is complete |
| 18:04 | <&jerith> | Does an empty map object make sense? |
| 18:05 | <&jerith> | I'd probably pass the irrelevant parameters to the generator as an opaque structure. |
| 18:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | It can, if you need a blueroom -- a map that contains objects but no terrain. |
| 18:21 | <&jerith> | Hrm. |
| 18:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm not sure if bluerooms will still be necessary once the object ownership refactor is done, though. |
| 18:22 | <&jerith> | I'm wary of uninitilised or partially initialised objects. |
| 18:22 | | * ToxicFrog ponders |
| 18:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | So, game code in general will never directly access the map generator; it calls game.createMap(...) which then picks an appropriate generator, dimensions, etc based on the game settings. |
| 18:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | So functionally there's not much difference between "createMap() constructs an empty map, passes it to the generator, and then returns it" and "createMap() constructs an initializer for a map and then passes it to the generator, which uses it to create a new map which it then fills in" |
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