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| 11:27 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/FozzTexx/status/554434915983314944 |
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| 19:01 | <@froztbyte> | https://twitter.com/fxn/status/591857792203370496 |
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| 21:04 | | * ToxicFrog installs the Arduino devkit |
| 21:08 | <&McMartin> | This should end well |
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| 21:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | McMartin: I'm making a box-o-LEDs for Alex |
| 21:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | (or "the toddlebot" as symbol has started calling him) |
| 21:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | And the box I wanted came with, in addition to LEDs, a breadboard, and various inputs, an arduino! |
| 21:20 | <&McMartin> | Sounds good to me |
| 21:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | So I can use it as the core of the box and drive the LEDs with it, or go entirely analog and use the Arduino for something else. |
| 21:20 | <&jeroud> | Arduinos are great. |
| 21:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | (my dad made me a similar box, but it was entirely analog) |
| 21:21 | <&McMartin> | This is the second "toddlebot" I'm aware of |
| 21:21 | <&jeroud> | What functionality will this box have? |
| 21:21 | <&Derakon> | It will be distracting~ |
| 21:21 | <&McMartin> | The other grew up to a slightly older little robot who was very nonplussed by the first Star Wars because during the battle of Yavin Luke was insufficiently nonplussed by R2 taking a hit >_> |
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| 21:52 | < kourbou> | Sorry bout that >.> |
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| 22:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | jeroud: it will have LEDs and various buttons and switches and suchlike sticking out that control them in a non-obvious way |
| 22:17 | <@macdjord> | ToxicFrog: I /loved/ toys like that when I was small. |
| 22:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | So did I. |
| 22:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | And when I was older I loved taking them apart! |
| 22:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hopefully Alex will take after his father~ |
| 22:22 | <@macdjord> | ... y'know, there are plenty of stories about the tensions between the big, manly, ex-football-captain jock father and his geeky, weedy, 'sissy' son. There aren't nearly enough about geek dads trying to deal with a child who would rather go outside and hit a sphere around than solve this neat new puzzle he got. |
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| 22:40 | <&McMartin> | macdjord: This is of course totally a thing that happens |
| 22:40 | <&McMartin> | The usual solution is to find an organized sport organization and let them handle that part of it for you >_> |
| 22:43 | <@macdjord> | McMartin: ... I was thinking more along the lines of "NO SON OF MINE WILL GO OUT INTO THE WORLD WITHOUT KNOWING DIFFERENTIAL CALCULUS!"~ |
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| 22:45 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, there's less of that because if you're good enough at it to have that attitude you know how hard it is to solve kinematics in the presence of air resistance, and what is playing catch but doing that repeatedly for fun~ |
| 22:45 | <&McMartin> | (Answer: a real-time reactive system) |
| 22:46 | <&McMartin> | ToxicFrog: So, is the arduino for controlling the LEDs or are you going to build it out of discrete logic for ease of deduction/apart-taking? |
| 22:46 | <@macdjord> | McMartin: True, but there a lot of story potential in a grown up geek father who'll be /damned/ if sees his son turn into one of those brain-dead sprots obsessed jocks that used to beat him up in highschool. |
| 22:46 | <&ToxicFrog> | McMartin: I'm not sure yet, actually |
| 22:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | Doing it with the arduino makes the power situation harder but lets me do more clever things with the potentiometers and have an auto power off and stuff |
| 22:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | Doing it without I'd want to head down to Seyal Electronics and get a fistful of relays or, if I can dust off enough relevant knowledge, transistors |
| 22:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's all breadboard-based, anyways, so I can experiment. |
| 22:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | I will probably be quickly throwing together a basic analog version for him to play with while I experiment with the arduino. |
| 22:49 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I was thinking less relays and transistors and more "chip with three AND gates" or everyone's favorite technomagic charm against hostile spells, the Hex Inverter |
| 22:49 | <&McMartin> | ... four AND gates. 12 pins. Right. |
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| 22:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hex Inverter? |
| 22:51 | <&McMartin> | It's a 12-pin IC with six NOT gates on it. |
| 22:52 | <@macdjord> | ToxicFrog: Chip with 6 NOT gates. |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | aka "inverters" |
| 22:52 | <@gnolam> | McMartin: *14-pin, technically. |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | Er, right |
| 22:52 | <@gnolam> | Wot with VCC and GND. |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | Also ... yeah |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | I last used a breadboard in, um. |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | 1997, I think. |
| 22:52 | | * gnolam reposts https://twitter.com/FozzTexx/status/554434915983314944 |
| 22:52 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah |
| 22:53 | <&McMartin> | gnolam: very excellent |
| 22:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah I guess LEDs are low-power enough that you can dispense with the transistors and just drive them straight off the gates, can't you? |
| 22:53 | <&McMartin> | I'd expect so, and if not I still think you wouldn't want to try to build the gates or any op-amps out of raw transistors |
| 22:54 | <&jerith> | ToxicFrog: Depends on the gates. |
| 22:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | McMartin: yeah, but in that case I'd still need something to control the actual current flow to the LEDs themselves. |
| 22:54 | <&jerith> | They're generally designed for minimal current flow. |
| 22:54 | <@gnolam> | IIRC, the Arduino version I've used could source 100 mA total. |
| 22:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | gnolam: the one I have is rated for 200mA total or 20mA per pin, IIRC, but we're discussing design without the arduino here |
| 22:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | With it I just implement the logic in software and drive the LEDs straight off the GPIO pins |
| 22:55 | <&jerith> | Check the datasheet of the gates. |
| 22:56 | <&McMartin> | Well, we don't have any gates yet either, hence the discussion of going to the electronics store >_> |
| 22:56 | <@macdjord> | ToxicFrog: Back in highschool EE, driving LEDs or 7-Segments directly off the chips was the standard way of displaying circuit output. |
| 22:58 | <@gnolam> | Your everyday 7400 has about the same specs. |
| 23:00 | <@gnolam> | (Never really done anything with the 4000s) |
| 23:02 | | * gnolam suddenly realizes he can use his remaining Arduino for a work-related project. |
| 23:02 | <@gnolam> | And in the process, break in my new soldering station and oscilloscope! |
| 23:03 | | * jerith stops looking at transistors, returns to Scala code. |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7400_series#/media/File:YUNTEN.gif |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | Before you go |
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