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| 04:49 | < SmithKurosaki> | Ahoy! I need help from a mac user |
| 04:50 | < SmithKurosaki> | nevermind |
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| 05:24 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Haw. I'm mentally debating the value of indexed verticies for a triangle fan, yet it's only a placeholder until I break it up even further :P |
| 05:26 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Clearly very important for stub code to be optimized towards other stub code :P |
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| 08:47 | <&McMartin> | OCaml 4.0 released |
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| 11:41 | <@TheWatcher> | ... well, shit. This is what happens when I try to be toodamnedcleverbyhalf |
| 11:51 | < iospace> | oh? |
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| 12:25 | <@Alek> | "I'm a programmer, therefore, any strange behaviour on my part can be written off as professional eccentricity." XD |
| 12:29 | <@TheWatcher> | iospace: performing arcane tricks with pathinfo summoned a few unspeakable horrors for a while there, now thoroughly dealt with |
| 12:29 | < iospace> | <3 unspeakable horrors :3 |
| 12:42 | < froztbyte> | for the rest of your friday: http://blog.froztbyte.net/2012/07/we-need-this-for-internetworking/ |
| 12:50 | < sshine> | froztbyte, your "we" link is broken |
| 12:50 | < froztbyte> | thanks, will check |
| 12:50 | < froztbyte> | ah, doublepaste |
| 12:51 | < froztbyte> | fixed |
| 12:51 | < sshine> | haha... "why all the one-word comments; does your project have a fucking word limit?" |
| 12:51 | < Nemu> | Hah. I laughed at the data poster |
| 12:51 | < sshine> | Nemu, I didn't. I find data to be a useful variable name in circumstances. |
| 12:52 | < Nemu> | Mostly because I have SData, NData, data, tempData, FData, and newData |
| 12:52 | < sshine> | oh. :) are they classes?! |
| 12:52 | < Nemu> | Matlab structures |
| 12:52 | < sshine> | ugh |
| 12:53 | < Nemu> | At structures, or at Matlab? |
| 12:53 | < Nemu> | If it's the latter, I agree |
| 12:53 | < Nemu> | If it's the former, we may have to have a little discussion |
| 12:53 | < sshine> | no, at poorly named structures. |
| 12:54 | < sshine> | I like this one: "How the fuck could this have ever worked; why does it stop when I have to use it?" |
| 12:54 | < sshine> | I experienced that several times at work. something works, I compile it, it stops working, I fix it. it works. I wonder why, so I temporarily revert and it works anyway. glitch! |
| 12:55 | <@Tamber> | Or it starts working again as soon as the person responsible for it turns up for you to demonstrate how it's broken? |
| 12:56 | < sshine> | Tamber, that's classical as well, but it also happens to non-geeks. |
| 12:56 | < Nemu> | As far as the names go, it's fairly self-documenting. FData = filter_data(data,F); NData = normalize_trials(FData), things like that |
| 12:56 | < Nemu> | Yeah. Been there, done that. |
| 12:56 | < Nemu> | Not fun |
| 12:56 | < Nemu> | I had a problem in a gui I developed. Tried everything I could think of. |
| 12:56 | < Nemu> | Finally, I just rewrote it. I used the same techniques, but it worked fine after that |
| 12:57 | < sshine> | Nemu, I suppose "fdata" isn't necessarily bad if it's only used in a small, local context in which it is defined to be filter data as above. |
| 12:58 | <@Tamber> | sshine, oh, I know; I'm normally the person responsible for fixing it, and enjoy the cries of "But it was broken before you turned up!" :D |
| 12:58 | | * TheWatcher eyes this error code |
| 12:58 | <@TheWatcher> | "bad_perm" |
| 12:58 | | iospace is now known as iofficespace |
| 12:58 | <@TheWatcher> | So tempted to make the description "Y U so 80s?" |
| 12:58 | < iofficespace> | OFF TO WORK! |
| 12:58 | < iofficespace> | ^_^ |
| 12:59 | < Nemu> | I take screenshots now, if it's something that can be shown visually. Like, data before and after an operation, in a command window |
| 12:59 | < sshine> | then there's "Thousands of lines of code and zero comments. Merry christmas and a happy bus accident." and I think... at my job, nobody ever writes comments. if they do, they're less explanatory than the code. good comments are a luxury, it seems. like tidying up your flat. |
| 13:00 | < sshine> | some of them are a bit arrogant, though... like "braces go on the next line, you tremendous fuckass" ... |
| 13:01 | < sshine> | as if it were a categorical imperative. |
| 13:01 | <@TheWatcher> | IME a lot of coders believe that they don't have time to write comments. My optinion tends to be that if you feel you don't have time to write good comments, you don't have time to write good code. |
| 13:01 | <@TheWatcher> | *opinion |
| 13:06 | < Nemu> | Heh. I use comments as a troubleshooting tool. Write some code, test it. If it works, write cursory comments for the major lines. Doesn't work? Every line gets a paragraph |
| 13:07 | <@Tamber> | Comments as a duck-talk? |
| 13:10 | < Nemu> | ? |
| 13:11 | <@Tamber> | http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?RubberDucking |
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| 14:44 | <~Vornicus> | this one I can give though |
| 14:45 | < iofficespace> | :P |
| 14:45 | | * iofficespace snickers |
| 14:45 | < iofficespace> | i found a log from i test i did on 8/5 |
| 14:45 | < iofficespace> | xD |
| 14:46 | < iofficespace> | that was a good day :) |
| 14:53 | <@TheWatcher> | I just read that in the voice of GlaDOS |
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| 22:52 | | * ToxicFrog blarghs at email |
| 22:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm currently running postfix + maildrop + dovecot + courier-authd |
| 22:53 | < Tarinaky> | Does anyone here have experience trying to coerce Eclipse CDT? |
| 22:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | I was considering switching to just Courier, since I'm already using it (maildrop is part of courier and only talks to courier-authd, and courier-mta and courier-imap can replace postfix and dovecot respectively. |
| 22:54 | < Tarinaky> | I can get it to include the default cygwin/gcc headers/lib... But I can't find anything for extending it with other header locations. |
| 22:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | However, the configuration for courier seems to be, well |
| 22:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | crazy |
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| 23:37 | | * TheWatcher[afk] readsup, hands TF a small, rather simple trophy for the understatement of the millennium |
| 23:37 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 23:42 | < Tarinaky> | Sup TF. |
| 23:43 | < Tarinaky> | And TW |
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