code logs -> 2010 -> Wed, 04 Aug 2010< code.20100803.log - code.20100805.log >
--- Log opened Wed Aug 04 00:00:29 2010
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00:16 * Tarinaky is currently playing with MusicBrainz to see if he can unf4 his music collection's tags.
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00:39
<@Vornicus>
Answer checking done.
00:40
< Tarinaky>
How many people did you fail?
00:40
<@Vornicus>
Nobody yet, I haven't inflicted it on anyone but myself.
00:41
< Tarinaky>
Ahhh.
00:41
<@Vornicus>
wanna get at least the result reporter done before I throw any testers at it.
00:42
< Tarinaky>
Ahah. I see.
00:42
<@Vornicus>
(I'm writing a multiplication table drill thingy.)
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01:49
<@Vornicus>
arg. How do I center a table?
02:01
<@ToxicFrog>
Context?
02:13
<@Vornicus>
HTML. Have a table. Want it in the middle, horizontally.
02:14
<@Vornicus>
I got it, though. Maybe.
02:14
<@McMartin>
put it in a div whose css has align = center, IIRC
02:15
<@Vornicus>
Nope.
02:16
<@Vornicus>
I had to do some tricks with automatic margines.
02:20 * Vornicus gets his timer working!
02:23
<@Vornicus>
Okay. Gotta report time taken, and also fill out the grid in the answer key with the right/wrong.
02:32 * Vornicus is proud of this thing now, it's doing cool things.
02:46
<@ToxicFrog>
<div align="center"><table>... works for me, IIRC
02:50
<@Vornicus>
Okay. That is... that is beautiful.
02:54 * Vornicus tests it on Firefox now.
02:57
<@Vornicus>
Ok, worky on Firefox too.
02:58
<@McMartin>
From other channels, but kind of relevant here: http://www.spacedaily.com/news/iss-03zq.html
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03:05
<@Vornicus>
and not worky on IE but damned if I can tell what's going on.
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03:08
<@Vornicus>
Aha, it is complaining because my thing falls through the reset code when it hits the end.
03:09
<@Vornicus>
and that means trying to set stuff on an object that doesn't exist any more.
03:14
<@Vornicus>
Ok, now what.
03:14
<@Vornicus>
Whyyyyy do you not display the answer key, IE?
03:21
<@Vornicus>
There we go!
03:21
<@Vornicus>
Okay, now all I need is to host it somewhere.
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03:52
<@Vornicus>
Does anybody here have a place they can put a web page? (6kb, no images, no backend needed.)
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04:34
<@ToxicFrog>
Vornicus: http://www.funkyhorror.net/toxicfrog/multiplication_drill.html
04:35
<@Vornicus>
TF: woot
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08:01 mode/#code [+o AnnoDomini] by Reiver
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15:49
< Tarinaky>
ToxicFrog: You got 41 out of 50, for a grade of 82%, in 158.3 seconds. I suck :/
15:49
<@ToxicFrog>
Tarinaky: Vornicus wrote it, I'm just hosting it for him
15:50
< Tarinaky>
Oh. My bad.
15:50
< Tarinaky>
Vornicus-Latens: You got 41 out of 50, for a grade of 82%, in 158.3 seconds. I suck :/
15:51
< Orthia>
I seem to pretty consistently get 98%.
15:52
< Orthia>
I am almost always screwing up the x0 or x1 tables.
15:52
< Orthia>
Yes, really~
15:52
< Orthia>
0x7 != 7, for example. >_>
15:53
< Tarinaky>
1x and 0x tables aren't really needed that often :/
15:54
< Orthia>
Yeah, it's simple 'did not pay attention' errors.
15:55
< Tarinaky>
Most the times I can think of where they crop up you're dealing with algebra rather than just arithmetic.
15:55
< Orthia>
Ha! Got through without one: You got 50 out of 50, for a grade of 100%, in 107.2 seconds.
16:00
< EvilDarkLord>
100 %, 81.2. I blame the lack of numpad. :p
16:00
< Orthia>
Hey, I was pretty pleased with that for 3AM
16:01
< Orthia>
Also noteworthy of mention is that Vorn wrote this at my inspiration.
16:01
< Orthia>
I have long struggled with my times tables; I do them the hard way in my head.
16:01
< Orthia>
I mentioned as such, he mentioned the best way to test them was via number drills.
16:02
< Orthia>
... and then went and wrote a program to do it, presumably because he felt like it~
16:02
< Tarinaky>
He's helping you do your math homework as a pretext for hitting on you?
16:03
< Tarinaky>
How cliché.
16:03
< Orthia>
Exactly like that, yes. Just without the homework or the hitting on. I suppose the 'math' part may be construed as accurate enough, however, giving you 1 out of 3.
16:04
< Orthia>
So pretty close to your maths score, I take it? :P
17:22
<@Vornicus-Latens>
Tarinaky: 0s are just as common as other digits in arithmetic.
17:22
< Orthia>
Yeah, but it's not often you're asked to do you 0 times table
17:23
< Tarinaky>
Vornicus-Latens: I meant the number 0.
17:23
< Orthia>
Hence why I generally stuff it up by not paying attention~
17:23
< Tarinaky>
Vornicus-Latens: But you're right. I didn't consider long multiplication/division.
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17:39 mode/#code [+o Attilla] by Reiver
17:40 * TheWatcher vaguely considers hunting down Glenn Randers-Pehrson and beating him heavily with a large-font printout of the doxygen manual
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18:14
< gnolam>
TheWatcher: ?
18:16
<@TheWatcher>
libpng maintainer, and author of its documentation
18:18
<@TheWatcher>
The documentation in question is fine as a conversational introduction to using the library, but the lack of actual concrete API documentation means that I've had to refer to the source several times for things that should have been simple and obviously documented
18:18
< gnolam>
Ah.
18:18
<@McMartin>
yes. =/
18:18
<@McMartin>
It needs more than doxygen, imo.
18:21
< SmithKurosaki>
Anyone know how to cmd force a user number cange
18:21
< gnolam>
IMO, doxygen is only appropriate for /internal/ documentation.
18:22
< Orthia>
I think TheWatchers complaint is 'Even doxygen would make an improvement, and that's saying something'
18:22
< gnolam>
You never know. Too many libraries out there think doxygen is a replacement for real documentation. :P
18:23
< gnolam>
(But at least it's not as bad as people who think wikis are decent replacements for real documentation. Those people should be fired first from their developer positions and then /out of a cannon/.)
18:23
<@TheWatcher>
Reiv: well written comments can produce very usable API documentation through doxygen, but it isn't sufficient in and of itself otherwise it suffers from Java Standard Library API Syndrome.
18:24
<@TheWatcher>
(ie: you get a metric crapton of information, and no blind clue what to do with it or where to start~)
18:24
<@jerith>
Doxygen-style docs are useful (if Done Right), but insufficient.
18:25
<@TheWatcher>
But now, I must go cook, for I Hunger.
18:29 * gnolam stabs the GIMP with something rusty and serrated,.
18:31
< gnolam>
RAEG
18:33
<@McMartin>
It is only your weakness that cauess you to fail to comprehend their brilliance!
18:47
< gnolam>
The brilliance of suddenly deciding that I have a vertical resolution of ~2000 pixels, spawning windows on the wrong desktop (or completely off screen, which I have to admit is quite a feat - you have to do something positively non-Euclidean to WinAPI to do that), or having no way of fetching said windows.
18:48
<@jerith>
http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/user/basics.io.html <-- What's wrong with this picture?
18:52
<@AnnoDomini>
I see nothing overtly wrong.
18:53
<@jerith>
AnnoDomini: The second-last ToC entry?
18:53
<@jerith>
The one that looks *surprisingly* like a subversion conflict marker?
18:54
<@AnnoDomini>
I don't know subversion.
18:54
<@Vornicus>
whups.
19:47
< simon__>
hehehe
19:47
< simon__>
the subpage has a similar end-marker
19:48
<@jerith>
The ============ in the ReST source turns the start-of-conflict marker into a heading.
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21:32
< simon__>
does anyone recall a small app that replaces the following shellcode: while [ 1 ]; do foo; sleep 1; clear; done
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22:44 * gnolam tsks at devs who can't be bothered to run a spell checker.
22:44
< gnolam>
(Alien Swarm, in this case)
22:45
< Tarinaky>
In fairness, the game -is- free.
22:45
< Tarinaky>
And spellcheckers are pretty useless :/
22:47
< gnolam>
They would have helped here.
22:50
< gnolam>
If you don't trust spell checkers, at least run your work by a proof reader.
22:50
< Tarinaky>
I run all my work through aspell. It fails to pick up anything but the silliest of spelling errors and frequently produces too many false positives.
22:51
< Namegduf>
Am I right in thinking that you're British?
22:51
< Namegduf>
And thus, using a UK English dictionary?
22:51
< Namegduf>
I blame that for spellcheckers missing many words.
22:52
< gnolam>
Be glad that you don't have to deal with non-English spell checkers. They can often be /worse/ than useless.
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23:19 * Derakon writes a 1941-character checkin comment.
23:20
<@Derakon>
This is the problem with having the repository on a different computer from the development compy.
23:21
<@McMartin>
One more thing that git makes handier
23:22
<@McMartin>
(multiple commits in one push)
23:22
<@Derakon>
Oh, sure, when I can I break the commits up.
23:22
<@Derakon>
But this is many different changes that all touched the same files.
23:22
<@Derakon>
E.g. I modified the startup sequence to fix a dependency breakdown, but also to initialize a new window.
23:23
<@Derakon>
I can't really separate those changes unless I do checkins while doing the development, which, yeah, I probably should be doing.
23:23
< Namegduf>
With git, you would commit after each change.
23:23
< Namegduf>
Yeah.
23:23
<@Derakon>
(My workflow is "develop on the scope computer, transfer to laptop, code review, commit, push to remote repository when things look stable")
23:36
< Tarinaky>
So apparently there -is- a way I can get funding for a free course. Problem is I don't think I get any money for living expenses and can't claim JSA if I'm studying full time. Which sucks:/
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--- Log closed Thu Aug 05 00:00:30 2010
code logs -> 2010 -> Wed, 04 Aug 2010< code.20100803.log - code.20100805.log >