| --- Log opened Tue Nov 14 00:00:24 2006 |
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| 00:21 | | * Vornotron blings |
| 00:24 | | * Janus daaaa --mn |
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| 00:32 | < Vornotron> | Janus: what's so daaaa --mn about it? |
| 00:34 | < Janus> | Other than the tight, not much. |
| 00:35 | < Vornotron> | the what? |
| 00:39 | < Janus> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight Take your pick. |
| 00:40 | | * Janus thinks the 'tightlacing' article matchs the context closest. |
| 00:41 | | * Janus ducks. |
| 00:54 | < Vornotron> | I... see. |
| 00:55 | <@McMartin> | What's the "it"? |
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| 01:00 | | * McMartin decides his next task is System Integration |
| 01:00 | <@McMartin> | Time to learn Creepy Ant Tricks. |
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| 01:26 | < Janus> | May I ask for your oppinion on something, please? |
| 01:28 | < Janus> | Let's say you have a class that has a few virtual functions in it, and a group of classes for it to inherit that define those functions... |
| 01:29 | <@McMartin> | Er |
| 01:29 | <@McMartin> | That inherit from it, you mean? |
| 01:30 | < Janus> | Hmm... I suppose that's the correct grammar, yes. |
| 01:30 | <@McMartin> | OK, understood. |
| 01:31 | <@McMartin> | Continue your question... |
| 01:31 | < Janus> | (More specifically, the first one, in this case, acts as a place holder, where the other ones basically define what different weapons do.) |
| 01:31 | <@McMartin> | Right. |
| 01:31 | <@McMartin> | And each weapon implements the same API. |
| 01:33 | < Janus> | I was wondering... should I make the functions in the place holder class pure virtual, or should I define what the character does if they're unarmed in that class. |
| 01:34 | <@McMartin> | Mmm |
| 01:34 | <@McMartin> | You should do one of two things, depending. |
| 01:35 | <@McMartin> | One of which is make them all pure-virtual |
| 01:35 | <@McMartin> | The other thing to do would be to have the superclass implement those methods that are typically the same amongst weapons, if they have things in common. |
| 01:35 | <@McMartin> | If they don't particularly, than go with all pure virtual. |
| 01:35 | <@McMartin> | Unarmed should be a "weapon" in its own right. |
| 01:36 | < Janus> | Understood. |
| 01:37 | <@McMartin> | (The buzzwords for (1) and (2) are (1) Interface/Implementation split, and (2) the "Strategy" pattern) |
| 01:37 | <@McMartin> | It's generally considered a Good Thing to have some pure-virtual top-level class anyway just to declare the API. |
| 01:42 | < Janus> | I'm leaning towards door number one myself; The idea is to have them behave differently beyond having differing statistics and such. |
| 01:42 | <@McMartin> | It's good practice, |
| 01:42 | <@McMartin> | In fact, you can kind of do both at once, even with (2); you have pure-virtual with one child, the child is GenericWeapon, and everything else inherits from that |
| 01:43 | <@McMartin> | (That way if some new weapon comes along that isn't as generic as you thought...) |
| 01:45 | < Janus> | (... just create a BrandnameWeapon child for it.) |
| 01:46 | <@McMartin> | (indeed) |
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| 02:21 | < Takyoji> | I swear that I'm the biggest idiot.. I.. didn't know how and what the 'for' and 'foreach' command is for until now.. |
| 02:22 | < Takyoji> | the http://php.net documentation didn't help the best, which is why I didn't understand.. |
| 02:23 | < Takyoji> | So somebody, smack me! And stamp 'n00b' on me with a rubber stamp with red ink! |
| 02:24 | < Takyoji> | Because, since I didn't know how to use the commands, I programmed the hard way |
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| 02:24 | < Takyoji> | Now my life should be easier |
| 02:30 | <@McMartin> | It's good to do things the hard way once, anyway |
| 02:30 | <@McMartin> | That way you know what's going on under the hood |
| 02:30 | <@McMartin> | And should you find yourself in a language like C that doesn't have foreach, you don't end up crippled |
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| 02:48 | | * Janus hates random encounters; flees. |
| 02:55 | < Takyoji> | yea |
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| 04:53 | <@Vornicus> | Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. |
| 05:04 | <@Reiver> | ...?! |
| 05:05 | <@Vornicus> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zawinski%27s_law_of_software_envelopment |
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| 12:12 | | * MyCatOwnz ponders. |
| 12:13 | < MyCatOwnz> | How long can graphics shader programs be? |
| 12:13 | < MyCatOwnz> | (Heck, where are they stored while being run?) |
| 12:33 | <@TheWatcher[wr0k]> | graphics card local memory, and AFAIK it depend son the chipset |
| 12:36 | | * MyCatOwnz was kinda wonderin' if'n it'd be possible to cram a JPEG and/or a PNG renderer into a pixel shader. |
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| 16:31 | < GeoTube> | wb |
| 17:08 | < Vornicus-Latens> | The description I've seen says about 10kloc for a shader program |
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| 18:48 | <@Chalcedon> | arg! |
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| 19:53 | | * Vornicus ponders brand-name weapons |
| 20:05 | < Chalcedon> | ...? |
| 20:06 | < Chalcedon> | and why on earth is nickserv suddenly converting everyone to NSGuests? |
| 20:06 | <@Vornicus> | Last night Janus and McM were talking about specialization by inheritance, in the context of weapons in an RPG |
| 20:07 | | * Chalcedon nods |
| 20:08 | <@Vornicus> | so there's GenericWeapon... and the specialized version: BrandNameWeapon |
| 20:10 | < Chalcedon> | ah |
| 20:10 | | * Vornicus ponders Craftsman brand broadswords. |
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| 20:11 | < Chalcedon> | hi Thaqui |
| 20:12 | <@Vornicus> | Also, because services went "blam", and so. |
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| 23:53 | < timelady> | finally saw invite Reiver, thx |
| 23:55 | | * EvilDarkLord waves to New Person. |
| 23:56 | < BlueTiger> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIWuau6D4Vc This is the definition of "Too much spare time." :< |
| 23:56 | | * timelady waves in new way to EvilDarkLord |
| 23:57 | <@Vornicus> | hi, timelady |
| 23:59 | | * Chalcedon waves to timelady |
| 23:59 | < timelady> | hey vornicus:) |
| 23:59 | < Janus> | Bon'jour madamoiselle~ |
| 23:59 | | * GeoTube just learned of the natural nuclear reactor that existed under dedung, africa 1.7 billion years ago.. |
| 23:59 | < BlueTiger> | :o |
| 23:59 | < timelady> | hey chalcy, janus, bonjour aussi :) |
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