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| 04:36 | < AK|OUTNABOUT> | cool, not crazy after all, just was tired when i started typing up the system info. =/ |
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| 07:00 | < addking> | long day. |
| 07:00 | < addking> | i did play mf0 with 5 ppl tho, for a couple rounds anyway. took a while to explain the rules to 3 people. I got destroyed. |
| 07:03 | < afny> | yeah, that happens |
| 07:04 | < addking> | my friend who is part of my regular 3 person group won, because everyone tonight was in a back-stabby mood. |
| 07:04 | < afny> | what was his AV? |
| 07:04 | < afny> | (and what was yours?) |
| 07:04 | < addking> | mine was 3 |
| 07:04 | < addking> | his was 5 |
| 07:05 | < afny> | oh wow, and you got destroyed? |
| 07:05 | < addking> | but it was more the issue that one of our other newer players positioned himself so far away from the player starting on defense... |
| 07:05 | < afny> | Ah, and just started attacking indiscriminately? |
| 07:06 | < addking> | that he ended up just shooting his way across field... |
| 07:06 | < afny> | yep |
| 07:06 | < afny> | that'll do it |
| 07:06 | < addking> | he lost very badly as well. |
| 07:06 | < afny> | yeah, it's pretty much impossible to win with that strategy |
| 07:06 | < addking> | once it was basically a 3 man run, John took it home pretty easily since he's played 3-way games a couple times now |
| 07:07 | < addking> | my friend Corey who took the hardest to play defense team did a really good job but was just shy of pulling a win out |
| 07:07 | < afny> | that's one of the reasons I'm so in favor of campaign rules, even if they're just loose |
| 07:07 | < addking> | needed 5 hits for a kill, and got 3. |
| 07:07 | < afny> | it discourages people from making extremely 'out of character' plays |
| 07:08 | < afny> | like running around picking fights with the attackers as an attacker yourself |
| 07:08 | < addking> | first game for these guys, and i wasn't sure they'd even enjoy it. |
| 07:08 | < addking> | so I was happy they all stuck it out and played. |
| 07:08 | < addking> | i rolled TERRIBLE as well |
| 07:08 | < afny> | yeah, that's a good sign |
| 07:08 | < afny> | no table flipping |
| 07:08 | < addking> | we're not violent like that, but table flipping would have gotten someone a beating. |
| 07:09 | < addking> | everyone there tonight plays in either our D&D or Spycraft groups |
| 07:09 | < addking> | along with tons of board gaming |
| 07:10 | < addking> | so it was just something new to try. |
| 07:10 | < addking> | I'm sure I'll find it if anyone's interested to keep playing after a bit here. |
| 07:11 | < addking> | John, another friend of mine Jeremy and I have a pretty steady mf0 game going, that's slowly working into a campaign. |
| 07:11 | < afny> | cool |
| 07:11 | < addking> | I tend to field 3 different 'teams', they are both playing the same group each time. |
| 07:11 | < afny> | their own bricks? |
| 07:12 | < addking> | simply a 'I have more frames/lego's' |
| 07:12 | < afny> | yea |
| 07:12 | < addking> | yeah. John's picked up a lot more recently tho, I think once he tears down his mini-town thing he'll have some new frames |
| 07:12 | < addking> | mini-modulars. that's the set. |
| 07:12 | < afny> | oh, that thing is sweet |
| 07:13 | < addking> | yeah i was jealous |
| 07:13 | < afny> | is your stuff generally Solar Calender? |
| 07:13 | < addking> | it is. |
| 07:13 | < afny> | yeah, all four of my standing companies are SC |
| 07:13 | < addking> | I have a group for each faction. |
| 07:13 | < afny> | same |
| 07:14 | < afny> | I guess two of them are Free Colonial |
| 07:14 | < addking> | plus 3 frames that either are extra FC guys (for bigger games) or I've been using them as TEM too. |
| 07:14 | < addking> | I'm on a parts/buy freeze til x-mas. |
| 07:14 | < afny> | yeah, I still haven't got new lego since Ced sent me some |
| 07:14 | < addking> | I blew a good chunk of change on bricks this summer. |
| 07:14 | < afny> | I had a 25 dollar cart last week but then I restarted, lost it, and didn't refill it |
| 07:15 | < afny> | probably should've, it was mostly terrain stuff |
| 07:15 | < afny> | and MAERSK BLUE TILES :_: |
| 07:15 | < afny> | three companies is a good ammount, though |
| 07:15 | < afny> | plenty to demo with |
| 07:16 | < addking> | yeah considering i took 14 frames tonight and still have 7 frames sitting here, I have enough. I could field at least 2-3 more if pressed a bit |
| 07:17 | < afny> | I've got...six UMFL hardasses, 5 Free Colonial populists (technically six, but two of the frames count as one), 4 Free Colonial republicans, and 6 Ijad |
| 07:17 | < afny> | though there are Ijad pairs in all of my companies, and some humans in the Ijad one |
| 07:18 | < addking> | John has a couple ijad's in his SU merc company. I have humans/human pairs in my ijad team. |
| 07:18 | < addking> | my FC group has none. |
| 07:18 | < afny> | the Ijad in my republic military rides a Ghanat, but all the other ones in my FC and UMFL companies are bonded with humans |
| 07:19 | < addking> | I have 2 scramblers + a slammer. |
| 07:19 | < addking> | the slammer's human bond |
| 07:19 | < afny> | my scrambler/strider things are still so bad, I need 3x3 dishes for them |
| 07:19 | < afny> | they look so goofy with a 4x4 dish |
| 07:20 | < addking> | I was happy to fix mine tonight. I was able to trade john a black 3x3 for a white one. |
| 07:20 | < afny> | nice |
| 07:20 | < addking> | he bought a little astronaut set |
| 07:20 | < addking> | with the droid body/chainsaw thing on it |
| 07:20 | < afny> | oh yeah, that set is great |
| 07:20 | < addking> | and it had one white dish |
| 07:21 | < addking> | his squad is blue/black and my ijad's are white/orange |
| 07:21 | < addking> | so it was good deal for both of us |
| 07:21 | < addking> | i still need some white or orange 1x1 plate w/ tooth tho. |
| 07:22 | < afny> | yeah, I don't have many of those either |
| 07:22 | < addking> | i'm making due without them, but I miss the little spikey bit. |
| 07:22 | < afny> | I always want to use them in feet but they're usually tied up |
| 07:22 | < afny> | I have like three in black, two in red, two in dark bley |
| 07:22 | < afny> | and...two in tan, maybe? |
| 07:22 | < addking> | i own 0 |
| 07:22 | < afny> | they're really nice for adding some organic looking detail |
| 07:23 | < afny> | or also for feet if you build a lot of diminutive frames |
| 07:23 | < afny> | I own 0 3x3 dishes : |
| 07:23 | < addking> | yeah, the landmates that malcolm made use 'em |
| 07:23 | < afny> | I STILL haven't ever made a landmate to fiddle around with |
| 07:23 | < afny> | I dunno why, it's a great frame |
| 07:23 | < addking> | i use the 1x2 with 2 teeth looking hinge pieces instead (like the mgn feet on most of his old ones) |
| 07:24 | < afny> | yeah, I use those all the time |
| 07:24 | < afny> | great for medium size frames with 1p high feet |
| 07:24 | < addking> | i got a frigging ton of both sides of the hinge from pick-a-brick wall |
| 07:24 | < afny> | I got quite a few in bley from PAB, but I regret not getting a whole bucket |
| 07:25 | < afny> | after realizing many more applications for them later |
| 07:25 | < afny> | I have some old style pressure hinges too, though |
| 07:25 | < addking> | i have a small bucket of 1x1 plates with clip in bley, gonna have to gift some if any of these guys start playing. |
| 07:25 | < afny> | nice, those are so nice to have |
| 07:26 | < afny> | I have a more or less unlimited supply of dark bley 1x1 clip tiles thanks to PAB |
| 07:26 | | Soren|Away is now known as Soren |
| 07:26 | < addking> | yeah i dunno how many are in a small pab cup, but it's a lot |
| 07:26 | < addking> | it's filled right up into the top lid bubble |
| 07:26 | < afny> | if they're all on one or two companies even a hand full can go a long way |
| 07:27 | < afny> | I got I think 100 from randolph and it lasted me a long time |
| 07:27 | < afny> | until I started putting like 20 of them on a frame, really |
| 07:28 | < addking> | i bought like 20 1x1 bricks w/ 4 studs just as I started goofing with lego again. was gonna build some big minifig style robots, but MF0 came along |
| 07:28 | < addking> | ate those babies up pretty fast |
| 07:30 | < afny> | for me at least, 7p is a much, much more satisfying scale |
| 07:31 | < addking> | it's certainly more portable, and looks tight enough on a nice design. altho I feel bad for my used minifigs. |
| 07:31 | < addking> | i picked up 4 of the galaxy patrol guy, and i've got a few ADU/Space Police dudes that'd all make nice little pilots |
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| 07:33 | < afny> | Well okay. |
| 07:33 | < addking> | internet ;) |
| 07:33 | <@Soren> | like a kick to the internuts |
| 07:34 | < addking> | is your connection a lot better now Soren or worse? |
| 07:34 | <@Soren> | better, but I've been having trouble connecting with my usual client. |
| 07:34 | <@Soren> | so, it's a wash. |
| 07:35 | < addking> | I know Korea, Japan, and Singapore have 'faster, better' internet than the states. |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | It's about the same in KL. |
| 07:35 | < addking> | ah. |
| 07:35 | <@Soren> | Singapore, I didn't notice any magical quickness. |
| 07:36 | < addking> | well, I can only go by pings/general connectivity I see in gaming. |
| 07:37 | < addking> | I've not gotten to any of the countries around them parts. |
| 07:37 | <@Soren> | I'm pretty sure we're on the same pipe as Singapore. |
| 07:41 | < addking> | heh. sorry to tangent that thread with the vogon joke. |
| 07:43 | <@Soren> | actually I really appreciated it. |
| 07:44 | <@Soren> | That conversation has turned into a nobody-wins rathole, so levity has to come from somewhere and it wasn't at anyone's expense. |
| 07:44 | < afny> | and then we all jumped on milt. |
| 07:46 | < addking> | ah, well really he should read the book. |
| 07:46 | < addking> | books* |
| 07:46 | < afny> | oh, I agree |
| 07:47 | < addking> | although I always wonder if I see the movie then read the book, is my mental landscape 'tainted' or not by the films visuals |
| 07:47 | < addking> | luckily for me, the only thing I read/saw movie first wise was the old Bond stuff. |
| 07:47 | < afny> | hm |
| 07:48 | < afny> | well for Hitchhikers specifically I think that matters less |
| 07:48 | < addking> | I'm a geezer so LoTRs and Narnia and stuff like that was old hat to me already. |
| 07:48 | < afny> | I think that's something that definitely happened with LotR |
| 07:48 | < afny> | I really don't like those movies |
| 07:48 | <@Soren> | The Bond movies are actually much better, but I prefer the Len Deighton/John le Carre style of spy fiction more in any case. |
| 07:48 | < addking> | except for Thunderball... |
| 07:49 | < afny> | Moonraker. |
| 07:49 | < addking> | and Living Daylights |
| 07:49 | <@Soren> | Moonraker is hilarious. |
| 07:49 | < addking> | which were really just hacked out of the books badly. |
| 07:49 | < addking> | nearly all of Moore's films are just funny |
| 07:49 | <@Soren> | Oh, god, he's hilarious. |
| 07:50 | <@Soren> | But really the whole franchise in any form is pretty silly. |
| 07:50 | < addking> | his appearance in Cannonball Run just cracked me up |
| 07:50 | <@Soren> | I kind of associate Roger Moore's face with unintentional comedy now, I have to admit. |
| 07:50 | < addking> | well sure, super spy who everyone knows and doesn't shoot on entering any foreign country after his history? |
| 07:51 | <@Soren> | well, and the whole hack-and-slack vision of espionage is absurd. |
| 07:52 | < addking> | I do think the most recent ones with Craig are slighty better in the old 'stupid blow them up movies' way. Bronson took the role too late to be on for the right time. |
| 07:52 | < addking> | So true, but it's fun to game! |
| 07:52 | <@Soren> | fair enough. |
| 07:52 | < addking> | I run a Spycraft group which is like a d20 terrible mash of all the spy shows/movies as a game |
| 07:53 | < addking> | with action dice for stupid heroics |
| 07:53 | < addking> | after all actual spywork is mostly boring I'd imagine from the stuff I've read about. |
| 07:53 | < afny> | boring is relative |
| 07:54 | | * afny is a spie |
| 07:54 | < afny> | er |
| 07:54 | < afny> | yes, we spell it like that |
| 07:54 | < afny> | IN THE INDUSTRY. |
| 07:54 | <@Soren> | I had someone accuse me of being a spy for not jumping on board with his 9/11 truther insanity. |
| 07:54 | < addking> | keeps it out of the spellchecker right afny? |
| 07:54 | < afny> | yes, exactly |
| 07:54 | < afny> | I never let a computer tell me shit |
| 07:55 | < addking> | that's rich Soren. |
| 07:55 | <@Soren> | I had a giggle about it later. |
| 07:57 | <@Soren> | I think the whole fascination with conspiracy theory springs from the same well as spy fiction, though; we very badly want someone to know, and be in control, of the things going on around us. |
| 07:57 | <@Soren> | When the truth is that even the people who know have only very limited power to change things and mostly don't give a shit. |
| 07:58 | < addking> | well, it's a pretty common hope amongst humans that we hope someone else knows wtf is going on. |
| 07:58 | < afny> | the same delusion extrapolated further gets you religion :a |
| 07:59 | <@Soren> | well, and we prefer that it be 'someone', an individual with clear motives who can be stopped, persuaded, bribed, threatened... |
| 07:59 | < addking> | it's not much of a story if they can't. |
| 08:00 | <@Soren> | I don't know if I agree. It's a smaller-scale story and it might not have as definite an ending... |
| 08:02 | < addking> | well disaster is one thing, and if they can't be stopped, persuaded, bribed or threatened it's almost the same thing as a force of nature/act of god kinda thing. |
| 08:03 | <@Soren> | mm, I think it's more about static vs dynamic views of history. |
| 08:03 | <@Soren> | To have a traditional sort of hero-vs-villain setup and confrontation, you more or less start with the assumption that there's a baseline state that's either going to be changed or upheld. |
| 08:04 | <@Soren> | But in the real world, there's nothing quite like that. |
| 08:06 | <@Soren> | We assume that because nothing bad is happening to us, the world is at peace, but it doesn't mean there's a default 'safe' state to return to, just a 24/7 firebreak around you. |
| 08:06 | <@Soren> | The maintenance of that firebreak is actually pretty inreesting. |
| 08:06 | <@Soren> | interesting* |
| 08:07 | <@Soren> | ...cat tried to eat my foot. |
| 08:07 | <@Soren> | brb. |
| 08:07 | < addking> | lol. |
| 08:08 | < afny> | adorable. |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | back |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | little nutcase. |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | She left half a gecko on my pillow this morning. |
| 08:08 | <@Soren> | thankfully, it wasn't, you know, oozing. |
| 08:08 | < addking> | figured you were hungry. |
| 08:09 | <@Soren> | I'm just glad I saw it before I rolled over on it. |
| 08:12 | < addking> | You into alternative historical fiction? |
| 08:12 | <@Soren> | I've written some of it. |
| 08:13 | < addking> | which 'hinge' point? |
| 08:13 | <@Soren> | A bunch. |
| 08:14 | <@Soren> | usually weird obscure ones. |
| 08:16 | < addking> | I saw a thread compiling a 'group' of stories about alt.historical stuff the other day, and was just thinking about how things like conspiracies seem to spin off into stuff like that. |
| 08:17 | <@Soren> | Well, sort of by definition, you're limited to the author's historical understanding, so, if the author is a nutcase... |
| 08:18 | <@Soren> | or just wrong... |
| 08:20 | < addking> | hmm. what's the polite way of asking if you published or webpublished? (I have nothing against digital only publishing, most musicians that I know/played with etc, did web only releases) |
| 08:21 | <@Soren> | None of it is floating out there that I know of. |
| 08:24 | < addking> | Right on. Well it's rolling into 3:30 am, i think I'll beg off for the evening. Night gents. |
| 08:24 | <@Soren> | 'night |
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| 12:29 | < afny> | what a wonderful time to |
| 12:29 | < afny> | chkdsk |
| 12:29 | < afny> | for four hours |
| 12:34 | <@Soren> | apparently |
| 12:42 | < afny> | I certainly |
| 12:42 | < afny> | enjoyed it. |
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| 14:45 | < afny> | hm |
| 14:45 | < afny> | day9 is making me want to play magic |
| 14:45 | < afny> | time to PIRATE A CARD GAME |
| 14:51 | <~McMartin> | Gets hypnotized by abstract shapes |
| 14:51 | | * McMartin gets hypnotized by abstract shapes, even |
| 14:51 | <~McMartin> | ( http://distractionware.com/games/flash/hexagon/ - my record is 84:13) |
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| 18:04 | < afny> | well, I installed octgn to mess with the new magic set, but it's really bad |
| 18:04 | < afny> | but then I found the android: netrunner ruleset |
| 18:04 | < afny> | and it's pretty awesome |
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