| --- Log opened Sun Sep 30 00:00:24 2012 |
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| 13:30 | < Dukayn> | So... is anyone still alive in here or has it died completely? |
| 13:42 | < afny> | it's still alive |
| 13:42 | < afny> | it's just early |
| 13:43 | < afny> | though this is pretty much everyone :\ |
| 13:43 | < afny> | huhwhozat comes in some, and Malcolm shows up occasionally |
| 13:43 | < afny> | Ced was in here the other day |
| 13:43 | < afny> | but he's ILLUSIVE |
| 13:44 | < afny> | I'm going to go get breakfast |
| 13:45 | < Dukayn> | Oh so Ced is alive. I was wondering if he'd just disappeared entirely. |
| 14:03 | < afny> | he pretty much did |
| 14:03 | < afny> | I think he mostly just plays that firefall beta |
| 14:03 | < afny> | KD was in here once but I haven't seen her much either |
| 14:03 | < afny> | who else |
| 14:03 | < afny> | once and a while Mantisking comes in but he doesn't know how to idle |
| 14:03 | < afny> | so he just says HELLO? and leaves three seconds later |
| 14:04 | < afny> | you could sticky the IRC info thread, might boost our lurker count at least |
| 14:06 | < Draxinsuom> | I'm alive |
| 14:07 | < Draxinsuom> | Occasionally |
| 14:09 | < afny> | a good way to approach |
| 14:09 | < afny> | living |
| 15:10 | < Dukayn> | Yeah I should sticky the IRC info. |
| 15:20 | < afny> | hm |
| 15:20 | < afny> | got some engines for this carrier done |
| 15:20 | < afny> | but now I'm just watching starcraft |
| 15:20 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 15:21 | < afny> | got any ideas for cover rules for giant spaceships? |
| 15:21 | < afny> | other than the obvious asteroids |
| 15:21 | < Dukayn> | well I just rebuilt my Harrier frame with some slight variations, just because. Took some photos, about 2 came out OK. |
| 15:21 | < Dukayn> | do giant ships need cover? |
| 15:21 | < afny> | well yeah, that's sort of the issue |
| 15:21 | < Dukayn> | I mean, it's hard to take cover in a giant ship. |
| 15:21 | < afny> | that's why I'm having trouble |
| 15:21 | < afny> | like, if I just use the mfz rules |
| 15:22 | < afny> | using no or light asteroid cover will dull some of the tactical depth |
| 15:22 | < Dukayn> | true, but that's an aspect of an open space battle. |
| 15:22 | < afny> | true enough |
| 15:22 | < Dukayn> | there's not a lot to hide behind in space. |
| 15:22 | < Dukayn> | not if you're big enough to carry around an army of mobile frames, anyway. |
| 15:23 | < afny> | yeah, but by the same token the space a battle takes place in can be EXTREMELY vast |
| 15:25 | < Dukayn> | true |
| 15:25 | < Dukayn> | although, for the sake of gameplay, you have to restrict the available battle space anyway. |
| 15:26 | < Dukayn> | also, there's the limit of weapon ranges. |
| 15:26 | < afny> | I'm not saying I'd try to space it out 1:1 |
| 15:26 | < afny> | even the 7p rules aren't really 1:1 |
| 15:26 | < Dukayn> | well no |
| 15:26 | < afny> | I'm just saying that even though there isn't stuff to hide behind in space, evasion might be possible due to distances and visibility (and range limitations, as yo point out) |
| 15:27 | < afny> | I might try messing with some of the ranges |
| 15:27 | < Dukayn> | true but isn't evasion represented by blue dice? |
| 15:27 | < afny> | well partially, the other part is movement and range |
| 15:27 | < afny> | I'm using evasion in the broad sense, not like dodging |
| 15:27 | < Dukayn> | well yes but outside of the range factor |
| 15:28 | < Dukayn> | right, ok |
| 15:28 | < afny> | I'm just sort of afraid the game will 'break' without cover |
| 15:28 | < Dukayn> | enh |
| 15:28 | < afny> | becaue cover and blue dice combine to provide the damage mitigation system for the game |
| 15:28 | < Dukayn> | try it |
| 15:28 | < afny> | yea |
| 15:29 | < Dukayn> | perhaps change what 2 blue does, given cover isn't really a factor. |
| 15:29 | < Dukayn> | something like a flak field or something which actively stops incoming fire. |
| 15:29 | < Dukayn> | lessens the attacker's roll by 1 dice? |
| 15:29 | < Dukayn> | or is that too powerful... |
| 15:30 | < afny> | minovsky particles |
| 15:30 | < afny> | lol |
| 15:30 | < afny> | I think a flat mod is too powerful, but a tweak to double blue might be just the thing |
| 15:31 | < Dukayn> | well, cover makes hits only count on a 6 right? |
| 15:32 | < Dukayn> | you can still have that mitigation with double blue, be it some kind of shielding, or a flak wall like in BSG. |
| 15:32 | < Dukayn> | if it's not a 6, it hits the countermeasures. |
| 15:32 | < afny> | yeah, sort of like temporary cover generation |
| 15:32 | < Dukayn> | yeah |
| 15:35 | < afny> | well, I've gotta finish my fleet first |
| 15:36 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 15:37 | < Dukayn> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/31146427@N02/8039408136/in/photostream |
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| 15:39 | < afny> | cool antennae |
| 15:39 | < afny> | are they screwdrivers? |
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| 16:06 | < Dukayn> | nah, they are harpoons |
| 16:08 | < afny> | ah, that explains it |
| 16:08 | < afny> | I was really confusing cause I just made an ecm pod with a screwdriver |
| 16:08 | < afny> | and they looked like that, but longer |
| 16:08 | < Dukayn> | heh |
| 16:09 | < Dukayn> | well really they're comms radars :P |
| 16:09 | < Dukayn> | I didn't take a rear photo, going to take some more tomorrow in the sunlight. And I've added an SSR to it, too. |
| 16:09 | < afny> | Yeah they're Y's |
| 16:09 | < afny> | mine was for a ship, not even an mfz system |
| 16:09 | < afny> | but similar in greebleness |
| 16:10 | < Dukayn> | oh right YOU made the ecm pod, my bad. |
| 16:10 | < Dukayn> | I misread. |
| 16:12 | < afny> | agh |
| 16:12 | < afny> | I've covered every surface |
| 16:12 | < afny> | including lots of my floor |
| 16:12 | < afny> | in white pieces |
| 16:13 | < afny> | and I don't actually think I've made anything easier |
| 16:13 | < afny> | need to sort by shape and not by color |
| 16:18 | < Dukayn> | Yeah I sort by piece type. I don't have enough pieces or storage containers to do individual shape categories y et. |
| 16:19 | < afny> | I sort by shape for my frame parts |
| 16:19 | < afny> | I only have one little set of drawers for that |
| 16:20 | < afny> | but for these ships I'm using some of my bigger parts and they're ALL unsorted |
| 16:20 | < Dukayn> | ah, fun fun. |
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| 17:40 | < afny> | it's a good thing I'm not an engineer |
| 17:40 | < afny> | this build is janky as fuck |
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| 20:39 | < huhwhozat> | hiy! |
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| 21:10 | < afny> | well okay then. |
| 21:41 | < afny> | I think the skeleton of my carrier is done |
| 21:41 | < afny> | it's slightly less janky |
| 21:41 | < afny> | than it was this morning |
| 21:42 | < afny> | it is by no means swooshable, though |
| 21:43 | < afny> | but who swooshes capital ships anyway |
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| 23:17 | < Dukayn> | Morning all. |
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