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| 19:37 | < afny> | Do some people just put everything they make on cuusoo |
| 19:37 | < afny> | I hope they understand that isn't a good strategy |
| 19:37 | < McMartin_> | What is cuusoo? |
| 19:40 | < afny> | uh it's like a thing where you post a MOC |
| 19:40 | < afny> | and try to get votes to get it turned into an official kit |
| 19:40 | < afny> | I don't really know the details, but none of my browsers work right now |
| 19:40 | < afny> | for some reason |
| 19:41 | < afny> | so I can't dig deeper |
| 19:41 | < afny> | I'm gonna go take a shower and reset some hardware A: |
| 19:44 | < McMartin_> | D: |
| 19:44 | < McMartin_> | Well, thanks for the explanation, anyway |
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| 21:28 | < afny> | can anyone see how this frame's hips are done" |
| 21:28 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/61006341@N04/7715795408/in/faves-kyanosmoros/ |
| 21:29 | < afny> | I almost think they're done with minifig revolvers or something |
| 21:29 | < afny> | but I can't really tell |
| 21:30 | < Malcolm> | You could be right there |
| 21:30 | < Malcolm> | Very hard to tell, though |
| 21:30 | < Malcolm> | Need to build a hip and see if the angle matches |
| 21:31 | < afny> | the bit I'm actually stealing from that frame is the head/chest |
| 21:31 | < Malcolm> | Actually, hang on, I think its a t-piece stuck in the back |
| 21:31 | < Malcolm> | You can see the top of it if you embiggen the photo |
| 21:31 | < afny> | hm, yeah, I see that piece but I wasn't sure if it was |
| 21:32 | < afny> | attached to something on the back |
| 21:32 | < afny> | if there is a t piece in each leg I'm not sure how it has that splay |
| 21:32 | < Malcolm> | Pretty sure it is |
| 21:32 | < Malcolm> | I think the downstroke of the t is place in a hole, which allows the splay |
| 21:33 | < Malcolm> | I suspect its the downward facing arm of the t that is attached to something in the groin area |
| 21:33 | < Malcolm> | Maybe |
| 21:35 | < afny> | I think I'm just not getting it |
| 21:35 | < afny> | like part of the t piece has to be attached to the top of the thigh since that can be seen on the frame's right leg |
| 21:35 | < afny> | and any part of the t piece attached that way |
| 21:36 | < afny> | hm |
| 21:36 | < Malcolm> | Hmmmm |
| 21:36 | < afny> | well, I guess if there were tile clips in there somewhere |
| 21:36 | < Malcolm> | A conundrum |
| 21:36 | < afny> | ROTATED |
| 21:36 | < afny> | like, not at a 90 degee angle |
| 21:36 | < afny> | you could get that splay |
| 21:36 | < afny> | anyway |
| 21:36 | | * afny steals dat head |
| 21:36 | < afny> | I also really like the gun on that frame |
| 21:37 | < Malcolm> | Yeah, that is pretty nice |
| 21:37 | < Malcolm> | Heads are always a bugger to get right |
| 21:39 | < afny> | I've just been so into head/chest combos lately |
| 21:40 | < afny> | been going around flikr and sponging up any design ideas in that vein |
| 21:40 | < afny> | eventually I'll make something with a real head |
| 21:40 | < Malcolm> | Yep, that ALEF with the HCC (head chest combo. Everything must now have an acronym) was nice |
| 21:42 | < Malcolm> | I'm going to acronymise everything I say. I doubt there are many faster ways to alienate people, short of outright racism. |
| 21:45 | < afny> | technically you'd just be initializing |
| 21:45 | < afny> | I know this because being pedantic is also a very quick way to alienize people. |
| 21:45 | < afny> | alienize? |
| 21:45 | < afny> | alienate. |
| 21:46 | < Malcolm> | It's actually pronounced pay-dawnt |
| 21:46 | < Malcolm> | Ho ho! |
| 21:46 | < afny> | heh |
| 21:46 | < Malcolm> | As a fellow pedant, I am totally onboard with that |
| 21:46 | < Malcolm> | Actually, as an historian, I think that makes me a professional pedant |
| 21:46 | < Malcolm> | Win! |
| 21:47 | < afny> | You're doing it right. |
| 21:50 | < Malcolm> | Although, there's nothing like saying "...as an historian..." to make you feel like a total dick |
| 21:51 | < Malcolm> | There is guaranteed pomposity associated with such outpourings |
| 21:52 | < afny> | At a certain point, you've earned it |
| 21:52 | < afny> | It's not as bad as "...an a history major" |
| 21:52 | < afny> | as an* |
| 21:52 | < afny> | AN A |
| 21:53 | < afny> | "As an english major, I do the typing." |
| 21:53 | < Malcolm> | Ah, the pompous undergrad! A wonderful species |
| 21:53 | < Malcolm> | "As a sociology major, would you like fries with that?' |
| 21:53 | < afny> | heh |
| 21:54 | < Malcolm> | Given that part of my undergrad degree was in sociology, I don't really have a leg to stand on |
| 21:56 | < afny> | I don't have anything against undergrads |
| 21:56 | < afny> | just pomp. |
| 22:07 | < Malcolm> | Indeed, most of the ones I teach are good kids |
| 22:07 | < Malcolm> | The occasional smartarse, but mostly good |
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| 22:15 | < afny> | I have this building problem now |
| 22:15 | < afny> | pretty much up until last week, I've tried to stretch all my parts to make the most frames possible while still holding them to a certain aesthetic standard |
| 22:16 | < afny> | but now that I'm not doing that, I feel like I'm not being frugal in my designs |
| 22:16 | < afny> | like, I'm using more parts just because I have them |
| 22:18 | < Malcolm> | That's a trap I always fall into |
| 22:19 | < Malcolm> | Because I have a lot of stuff, I kind of kept making overly complex/rare piece intensive designs |
| 22:19 | < Malcolm> | I need to get back into the way of simple, but aesthetically pleasing, frames |
| 22:20 | < afny> | trying to stick to garage kit parts is helping me, but I still feel like I'm using too MANY |
| 22:20 | < afny> | even when I avoid the rare pieces |
| 22:20 | < afny> | if I were to do a parts count of this frame I'm building now, I'm sure it would be over any of Soren's stock SC frames |
| 22:21 | < Malcolm> | Yeah, it's that creep |
| 22:21 | < afny> | my big crutch is taps, so I suppose it could be worse |
| 22:21 | < Malcolm> | The later MgNs that I built had 80-100 pieces, if you counted the weapons |
| 22:21 | < afny> | I very rarely can make a frame without six taps |
| 22:21 | < Malcolm> | Taps are a staple, so no worries there |
| 22:22 | < afny> | true, but using six taps AND three travis |
| 22:22 | < afny> | seems like a lot |
| 22:22 | < Malcolm> | Well, I'm never too sure about this entire self-flagellation that occurs over using the 3 Ts |
| 22:23 | < afny> | well I've always tried to stay under 5 travis per frame |
| 22:23 | < Malcolm> | They're hellish useful and, in the grand scheme of things, pretty common |
| 22:23 | < afny> | for me it's because, when I started building |
| 22:23 | < afny> | I had very few of those bits |
| 22:23 | < afny> | and now that I've bought some, I still try to conserve |
| 22:23 | < Malcolm> | I think a lot of people are certainly in the same boat |
| 22:23 | < afny> | travis especially, since they're actually expensive |
| 22:23 | < afny> | and I don't like to use T pieces often because they're ugly |
| 22:24 | < Malcolm> | But its a good strategy and forces you to build creatively |
| 22:24 | < afny> | yea |
| 22:24 | < Malcolm> | Some folks being anti-Travis just for the sake of being different is just weird |
| 22:24 | < Malcolm> | I'm not sure I get that |
| 22:24 | < afny> | nah, I love them |
| 22:24 | < afny> | but I'd prefer to only use three in a frame I'd like other people to copy |
| 22:25 | < Malcolm> | I mean, the 3T challenge was really fun because it forced you in different, useful directions |
| 22:25 | < Malcolm> | But I still use at least one of them in most things I build |
| 22:25 | < afny> | yeah, but it wasn't intended to be a new direction for all frames |
| 22:25 | < afny> | that's why it was a "challenge" :P |
| 22:26 | < Malcolm> | Hah, well, I think thats one of the issues with the Landmate II: four Travises, a droid torso, and four t's. Not exactly beginner friendly |
| 22:27 | < afny> | Eh, it's not entry level |
| 22:27 | < afny> | but it's not S class either |
| 22:27 | < afny> | the real rub is the droid torso I suppose, since it's a "core" piece and not in the garage kit |
| 22:28 | < afny> | but it caught on in spite of that, so obviously it wasn't TOO costly |
| 22:28 | < Malcolm> | Yeah, that was slightly remarkable |
| 22:29 | < afny> | Well, it's cool looking and it is MOSTLY garage kit parts |
| 22:29 | < afny> | regarding the ALEFS, I think the Landmate has shown that we can include one or two weird core bits if we want |
| 22:30 | < Malcolm> | True. I'm keen to see what Greg has been working on with these commissions of his, he's been all secret squirrel lately |
| 22:30 | < afny> | The only thing I know about is the chess set, which I'm excited to see |
| 22:30 | < Malcolm> | Oh, indeed |
| 22:30 | < afny> | I told him he has to give the Bishop a big head |
| 22:30 | < afny> | if he doesn't, I'll be very sad. |
| 22:30 | < Malcolm> | Hah! |
| 22:31 | < Malcolm> | Right, I had better head to bed, early start tomorrow |
| 22:31 | < Malcolm> | Catch you later |
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