mf0 logs -> 2012 -> Wed, 01 Aug 2012< mf0.20120731.log - mf0.20120802.log >
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01:34
<@randolph>
Hey guys
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01:51
< DeathZero>
evenin.
01:59
<@randolph>
hey
02:00
< DeathZero>
sup
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02:01
<@randolph>
hey FF
02:01
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Yo
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02:02
<@randolph>
Hey D
02:02
< Dukayn>
howdy
02:02
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I hope I rolled correctly for the RP
02:02
< Dukayn>
Figured I'd been neglectful enough of you lot already, time to show some love :P
02:02
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Hey, Dukayn.
02:02
< Dukayn>
Sup Ferret
02:03
< DeathZero>
woo, peoples.
02:03
< DeathZero>
sup
02:03
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Nm
02:03
<@randolph>
On the care and feeding of your IRC channel...
02:04
< Dukayn>
hahaha
02:04
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
:)
02:04
< Dukayn>
Almost over this stupid flu bug now too, which helps :)
02:05
<@randolph>
Oh man, the Stupid Flu. Is it catching? <_<
02:05
< DeathZero>
good to hear.
02:05
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Ah, flu season on the other side of the world.
02:06
< Dukayn>
Yeah basically my whole state has come down with it.
02:06
< Dukayn>
Facebook is about 3 dozen people a day whining about how sick they are.
02:07
<@randolph>
hee
02:07
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Hard to figure that anyone is in winter when it's 105 at 8 pm. :/
02:07
< Dukayn>
hahaha
02:07
< Dukayn>
Well, the other day I got up out of bed and it was -2?C at 7am
02:08
< DeathZero>
meh. It's been close to 100 here most of the summer.
02:08
< Dukayn>
which is 28.4?F
02:08
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Well, we aren't as hot as last year.
02:08
< Dukayn>
where in the US are you Ferret?
02:08
< DeathZero>
I was gettin ready to ask that. lol
02:09
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Texas
02:09
< Dukayn>
Ah
02:09
< Dukayn>
Yes
02:09
< Dukayn>
Hot.
02:09
< DeathZero>
heh, glad I left irving.
02:09
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Everything is brown
02:09
< Dukayn>
insert Mexican joke
02:09
< DeathZero>
Texas was better than living in Arizona though.
02:10
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I'm 1/4 Hispanic...
02:11
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
And 1/2 Irish. With a hodgepodge of other back grounds. :)
02:12
< DeathZero>
I'm mutt mixed with german. o_o
02:12
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Germany is in there. :)
02:13
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Last year here in Texas we almost broke the record for consecutive day above the century mark.
02:13
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Two days shy of it.
02:13
< DeathZero>
meh. still glad I got out when I had the chance.
02:14
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I still like it despite the heat. :)
02:15
< DeathZero>
you can keep it.
02:17
< neoaez1>
I'd rather deal with this dry Texas heat than the humidity of the Mississippi coast.
02:17
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Thank you, zero. You're so generous. ;)
02:18
< DeathZero>
meh:P
02:18
< neoaez1>
Don't forget half of it is mine.
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< DeathZero>
I prefer it up here in Indy. Aside from this past summer
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< DeathZero>
I swear, this past summer here has been so hot and dry I could have been in Texas again.
02:18
< neoaez1>
Where in Indiana?
02:18
< DeathZero>
Indianapolis. o_O
02:18
< DeathZero>
like 15 min from where GenCon is gonna be.
02:18
< neoaez1>
Ah. We have family in Evansville.
02:19
< DeathZero>
cool.
02:19
< neoaez1>
Can't get much further south and still be in Indiana.
02:20
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
On another, MFZ related, note...
02:20
< DeathZero>
yea, I've passed through it on my way out of state plenty, never stopped though.
02:20 * neoaez1 waits
02:20
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I'm thinking of trying a minifig chub or conscript.
02:21
< DeathZero>
o_O
02:21
< neoaez1>
Cool. I'm not ready to commit that much lego to a frame.
02:21
< DeathZero>
one that holds a minifig? or is the size of a minifig?
02:22
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Holds a minifig.
02:22
< DeathZero>
nm. I guess making them the size of a minifig wouldn't make much sense. Chub's not a whole lot bigger than a minifig.anyways.
02:22
< DeathZero>
>_>
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02:42
< neoaez1>
Way to go, DZ. You killed the conversation.
02:44
< Dukayn>
hahaha
02:44
<~McMartin>
FLAWLESS VICTORY
02:45
< neoaez1>
I'm ready for a game. Too bad the kiddo is at karate tonight.
02:47
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Sorry, I got busy.
02:49
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Neoaz: I'm going to try and demo some at Area51 in Grapevine on Thursday.
02:50
< neoaez1>
Ooo.
02:50
< neoaez1>
What time?
02:50
<~McMartin>
Boo
02:50
<~McMartin>
My cross-state trek is *Wednesday*
02:51
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I'm thinking about getting there around 5 and staying late.
02:51
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Wednesday is d&d night here in the states.
02:53
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
And Area51 has a lot of d&ders.
02:53
< neoaez1>
I'll have to see if I can break away and get out there. My Friday's start pretty early and Area 51 is over an hour from my house.
02:54
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
But if you are in North Texas tomorrow night, I could squeeze in a game.
02:54
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
:)
02:54
< neoaez1>
Heh
02:56
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Neoaz: I'll be glad to see you if you can make it. :)
02:56
< neoaez1>
I'll see what I can do. I might be on the Dallas side of town Thursday so that might make it easier.
02:58
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I'll message Sage, too. See if he wants to come.
02:58
< neoaez1>
Cool.
02:59
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
The more companies, the better the demo. XD
03:01
< DeathZero>
:P wheres my victory prize?
03:01
< DeathZero>
Also, busy putting kid to bed. back later.
03:20
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Off topic... What did you think about Matt Smith running the Olympic torch?
03:21
< Dukayn>
I don't follow the Olympics, but Doctor Who is such a part of English culture it makes sense to include him.
03:21
< Dukayn>
and despite personal preferences on your favourite Doctor, he's the current one so if it was going to be anyone it was going to be him.
03:22
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I wanted to see Tennant, but I understand why they did it. It would have been nerdy-fanboy greatness
03:22
< Dukayn>
Yeah but Tennant isn't in any way attached to the Doctor Who franchise any more.
03:23
< Dukayn>
Having him run would be as relevant as having Sylvester McCoy run.
03:23
< Dukayn>
Or that blonde guy in the white suit who's name nobody remembers :P
03:24
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Well, it would have been relevant because it was already in an episode.
03:24
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
But I know why the did it
03:24
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
And I'm not upset
03:24
< Dukayn>
They're not going to include him because they showed it in an episode once :P
03:25
< Dukayn>
I mean shit, how much stuff happens in London in that show?
03:26
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Right, that's why it would have been nerdy greatness if they semi-recreated Fear Her
03:26
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
I know right. Lol
03:28
< Dukayn>
right, food time
03:38
<~McMartin>
Didn't they instead recreate a Pink Floyd music video?
03:46
<+FerrelFerret_phone>
Did they? I don't watch the Olympics, just heard about the Matt Smith part.
03:59
<@randolph>
DeathZero: My Chibis *are* minifig-sized Chubs
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06:23
< Dukayn>
O SHIT HE'S ALIVE
06:23
< Dukayn>
sup Ced23Ric
06:24
<@randolph>
Hey Ced
06:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey heay. :)
06:25
<@Ced23Ric>
How are my sexypants doing today?
06:25
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh, oh.
06:25
<@Ced23Ric>
You are all modern and technologically advanced people, right?
06:28
<@randolph>
I am a primitive luddite.
06:28
< Dukayn>
I come from the future
06:28
<@randolph>
With a decade-out-of-date exocortex
06:29
< Dukayn>
I was once a nubile young teenage girl who protected John Conner, but my show got cancelled so now I'm a hairy Tasmanian dude.
06:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Okay then.
06:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Do you have and use WhatsApp?
06:31
< Dukayn>
Nah man, you saw my comments on FB. Looks like just another IM program and I have plenty as it is.
06:32
<@Ced23Ric>
You don't underSTAND.
06:32
<@Ced23Ric>
It's not an IM program like Y!, ICQ, AIM, Skype, etc.
06:32
<@Ced23Ric>
It basically gives you 2nd "text" option, if you will.
06:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Plugs right into your contacts. No account, no signup, no constant data stream.
06:33
<@Ced23Ric>
It's a push mailer, for texts, images, videos, voice files, files in general.
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<@Ced23Ric>
But instead of using your carriers text/MMS systems, which cost you or use up booked quantities, it uses your datastream.
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Wordlwide, free of charge other than your dataplan.
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
With anyone who's number you have?
06:34
< CalaveraJoe>
Hola!
06:34
< CalaveraJoe>
Ced: Whassat?
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Got an American number? No probrem. I chatted with my good friend Kitty last night.
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
German? Yeah, same deal.
06:34
< Dukayn>
I don't have any international contacts.
06:34
< Dukayn>
So, kinda pointless.
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: WhatsApp for smart phones (Android, Blackberry, iPhone).
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
You have ME.
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
And Randy!
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
And Mittens!
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Etc.
06:35
< Dukayn>
You're not in my phone contacts.
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
... which, I see, is a fact as solid as a rock and impossible to change.
06:35
< CalaveraJoe>
How is it an improvement over existing apps? Aim, Jabber, Skype, etc. etc. etc?
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
You got me beat there.
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ:
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
[07:32:30] <@Ced23Ric> It's not an IM program like Y!, ICQ, AIM, Skype, etc.
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
[07:32:47] <@Ced23Ric> It basically gives you 2nd "text" option, if you will.
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
[07:33:03] <@Ced23Ric> Plugs right into your contacts. No account, no signup, no constant data stream.
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
[07:33:29] <@Ced23Ric> It's a push mailer, for texts, images, videos, voice files, files in general.
06:36
<@randolph>
Which is neat
06:36
< CalaveraJoe>
Hrm. And it works with folks who /aren't/ using it?
06:36
<@randolph>
Hey CJ
06:37
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: Well ... no. It requires WhatsApp on both ends. Because, without the client, the data cannot be interpreted.
06:37
<@Ced23Ric>
It's not a "different way to text"; but a "text alternative".
06:37
< CalaveraJoe>
*nod* So the trick is convincing as many of your contacts as possible to grab it
06:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, I have a buttload, because so many people already do use it.
06:37
<@Ced23Ric>
But, essentially, you'd need to ask them to install a free app that causes no hidden costs and has no downsides.
06:38
< CalaveraJoe>
*nodnod* Gotcha. Sorry for ninjaing the convo. As you were.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
I stay in touch with my Canadian friends with it, and I converse with my roomies with it.
06:39
<@Ced23Ric>
It's just light-weight and nifty. It practically ended any need for texting in my day-to-day life. :D
06:39
< Dukayn>
It sounds neat, I just have no reason to grab it. It'd require for me to actually go and add people to my contacts for no other reason than to use WhatsApp, which makes it exactly the same as any other IM program from my perspective.
06:39
<@randolph>
I'll stick to telepathy until I get a data plan.
06:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Dukey: So, you don't have contacts..?
06:39
< CalaveraJoe>
randolph: use wifi, no plan necessary
06:39
< Dukayn>
I do, they're all in Australia.
06:39
<@randolph>
Duk: the difference is always-on
06:40
<@Ced23Ric>
The thing is, IF someone HAS WhatsApp ... and you don't know ...
06:40
<@randolph>
This doesn't have to be
06:40
< Dukayn>
And I have free text to all Australian numbers
06:40
<@Ced23Ric>
... it automatically adds them, if they are on your contact list.
06:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, "adds", it plugs in, really.
06:40
< Dukayn>
randy: I can always text someone...
06:40
< Dukayn>
And it always goes to their phone.
06:40
< Dukayn>
Without an app
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Welp.
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
You have your standpoint and don't care for it. That's fine. :)
06:41
< CalaveraJoe>
I think what Dukayn is arguing is that in many respects, this feels redundant
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
But I'd just like to point out that you are partaking in an international community.
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: It is and it is not.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Texting is just the base function.
06:42
< Dukayn>
I'm just saying it's redundant for ME
06:42
<@randolph>
He just doesn't want this relationship to go any further at this time, Ced.
06:42
<@randolph>
You're crowding him, and he's not ready to commit
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
But as soon as Dukey would attempt to send me a video or several images while he's building a 'frame or so, he'd be in a pickle.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Or would need a computer.
06:42
< CalaveraJoe>
Or he could just /email/
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Whereas I could just snap a picture or a video and send it.
06:42
< CalaveraJoe>
form his phone
06:42
<@randolph>
He's too nice to day it, but maybe next date
06:43
<@randolph>
*say
06:43
<@randolph>
damn my fingers
06:43
< CalaveraJoe>
from, not form
06:43
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: eMail is cumbersome, compared to "Dukey, Send Video, go.", is it not?
06:43
< Dukayn>
not really dude
06:43
< CalaveraJoe>
Not really. Since I can, from any piece of media on my phone pop the menu, chose share, email, select a contact and smack send
06:44
< Dukayn>
What CJ said
06:44
<@Ced23Ric>
And how is that tracked?
06:44
< CalaveraJoe>
This, of course, presumes I have an email address for a given body
06:44
< Dukayn>
it's like, 3 clicks?
06:44
<@randolph>
context menu I think?
06:44
< CalaveraJoe>
Tracked how? Like read receipts?
06:44
< Dukayn>
basically. share button, email, contact, send.
06:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, like a communication history.
06:44
< CalaveraJoe>
For me, through Gmail
06:44
< Dukayn>
as opposed to... share button, WhatsApp, contact, send
06:44
< CalaveraJoe>
so /ridiculously/ so
06:44
<@Ced23Ric>
GMail tracks your texts aswell?
06:44
< CalaveraJoe>
threaded convos, etc
06:45
< CalaveraJoe>
No, but I actually text rather infrequently
06:45
<@Ced23Ric>
... I guess the make and break point is the whole planetwide communication thing.
06:45
< CalaveraJoe>
I'd say, for communication via my phone, its 60% email, 20-25% Facebook, and the rest SMS
06:45
< CalaveraJoe>
And thats for domestic and international folks
06:46
< CalaveraJoe>
There's some random Skyping in there (usually video / voice calls, especially internationally)
06:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Allow me to divert the attention on an entirely differen topic: http://oglaf.com/media/comic/sexualcavalry.jpg
06:46
<@Ced23Ric>
NRSFW.
06:46
< CalaveraJoe>
Yay oglaf!
06:46
< Dukayn>
redirect loop
06:46
< CalaveraJoe>
Going along with subject changes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11263807@N04/7681500346/in/set-72157630528833250/
06:46
< Dukayn>
but, I saw it already so :P
06:46
< CalaveraJoe>
WTF is the bit between the 1x1 with clips on the thighs?
06:47
< Dukayn>
I saw that earlier on Flickr
06:47
< Dukayn>
"2 modified 1x1 plates with clip light that have the plate removed from the circle bit so that it's just an element with a stud on each end."
06:47
<@randolph>
tap
06:47
< Dukayn>
from the description
06:47
< CalaveraJoe>
Also, would I be the devil for drilling a bunch of 1x1 rounds to make them into diy 1x1 rounds with holes?
06:48
< CalaveraJoe>
I guess I'm just not groking "1x1 plates with clip light that have the plate removed from the circle bit so that it's just an element with a stud on each end"
06:49
< CalaveraJoe>
OH
06:49
< CalaveraJoe>
Nevermind
06:49
< CalaveraJoe>
*sigh* helps if I pay attention to the part he's talking about
06:49
< CalaveraJoe>
derp
06:49
< CalaveraJoe>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4081
06:49
< CalaveraJoe>
One of those, cut apart
06:51
<@randolph>
Ah, yeah. Mittens did that on his Grand Naga
06:51
<@randolph>
And someone else did the drillbit to a 1x1 round thing
06:51
<@randolph>
If you can figure out who, you can even ask what gauge
06:51
< CalaveraJoe>
Sadly, I don't think I've got nearly enough of those clips to chop 'em to pieces
06:51
< CalaveraJoe>
randolph: Or I can just take check against a headlight or travis
06:52
<@randolph>
You might want it a bit snugger than that, but sure
06:52
<@randolph>
Oh man, CJ, I have a ton of those
06:52
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah, I'd probably find that size, then go a hair or two smaller
06:52
< CalaveraJoe>
What color?
06:52
<@randolph>
white
06:53
< CalaveraJoe>
Costa Mesa?
06:53 * CalaveraJoe thinks he saw them on the inventory there.
06:53
<@randolph>
They were there before
06:53
<@randolph>
But that was a month ago
06:54
<@randolph>
I stopped paying attention to that part since I have so many, but if you want some you can have some
06:54 * CalaveraJoe chuckles. "It figures that the only folks in my contacts list who are on WhatsApp are an Olympic Shooting coach and a Brazilian business woman
06:54
< CalaveraJoe>
I may take you up on that (was actually thinking when we meet up I'd schlep along my full kit so we can swap some parts if there's any that the other person needs)
06:55
< CalaveraJoe>
I need to get on BL and just find a big pile of them in dark bley in both orientations, MAYBE some in red and black
06:55
<@Ced23Ric>
Here#s a question.
06:55
<@Ced23Ric>
Is there gonna be a big meet-up of mofos in the forseeable future?
06:56
< CalaveraJoe>
I wouldn't be surprised if there was one at some point, though it'd probably coincide with a con
06:57
<@randolph>
Ced yeah, there's a con coming up I think
06:57
<@randolph>
and some Texans said they'er meeting up soon
06:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Kk.
06:57
<@randolph>
After CJ and I meet up and make sure we're not axe murderers, we can probably hold a weekender or somethign
06:58
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, it looks like I'll have suprise vacation in October.
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06:58
< CalaveraJoe>
Ced: In WhatsApp, the "last seen" time, is that in local time to the user or to the contact?
06:58
<@Ced23Ric>
As in, I haven't had time off all year and my deployment management is getting iffy about it.
06:58
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: Good question. I think it's local.
06:58
<@Ced23Ric>
Lemme check real quick.
06:59
<@Ced23Ric>
Ah, balls.
07:00
<@Ced23Ric>
I'll get back to you on that, but I am 90% sure it is "your time".
07:00
< Dukayn>
That makes the most sense.
07:01
< Dukayn>
And it doesn't really make sense to show it in their local time as the information is to help you.
07:02
< CalaveraJoe>
One would /hope/ that was the logic
07:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Hope has die-hard and CON 18.
07:02
<@Ced23Ric>
(It dies last.)
07:02
< Dukayn>
nerd
07:02
< Dukayn>
:P
07:02
<@Ced23Ric>
So? :D
07:03
<@randolph>
In case anyone wondered, that's what Nadezhda means ;)
07:03
<@Ced23Ric>
I have a date today - and my roomies requested Twitter-style updates.
07:03
<@randolph>
haha
07:03
<@Ced23Ric>
Danni wrote "Subscribe @KrischanRasch"
07:03
<@randolph>
I'm almost tempted for your number so I can text R U MAKIN OUT YET
07:04
<@Ced23Ric>
I replied: "Bedtime. #fuckmyroomies"
07:04
< Dukayn>
lol
07:04
< Dukayn>
that your real Twitter Ced?
07:04
<@Ced23Ric>
And he came back with: "RT: @KrischanRasch: Bedtime. #fuckmyroomies"
07:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, I don't have Twitter.
07:04
< Dukayn>
Bah
07:04
<@Ced23Ric>
But we sometimes communicate in Twitter-style.
07:04
< Dukayn>
So much for future-living tech nerd.
07:04
< Dukayn>
:P
07:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Via texts, IRC, WhatsApp etc.
07:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Or in conversations.
07:05
<@randolph>
Webcam contacts. It's the only way.
07:05
< CalaveraJoe>
Oh #firstworldproblems
07:05
<@randolph>
(that's contact-lenses)
07:05
< Dukayn>
#nerdwordproblems you mean ;)
07:08
< CalaveraJoe>
Hey, does the clip light piece only come in one orientation, or does it come in both horizontal and vertical like the 6019 / 4085 do?
07:08
< Dukayn>
only one
07:08
< CalaveraJoe>
Thought so
07:08
< Dukayn>
fixable with a Stanley knife and Superglue ;)
07:08
< CalaveraJoe>
Just making sure, since occasionally there's that oddball esoteric weirdo piece
07:09
<@randolph>
You want the "b" version, btw
07:09
< CalaveraJoe>
Actually, you could probably carefully heat the neck and twist
07:09
<@randolph>
The "a" version is thinner, and isn't exactly 1p thick
07:09
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah
07:09
<@randolph>
I use the hell out of those things
07:09
< CalaveraJoe>
*nod* That's my problem
07:09
<@randolph>
They're in damn near everything I build
07:09
< Dukayn>
I only have the thicker ones
07:09
< CalaveraJoe>
I don't think I actually picked up nearly enough in my BL orders
07:10
<@randolph>
Well, I mean, if you want some white ones, I can ... wait, your wedding thing is this weekend isn't it?
07:11
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah, I'll be in riverside thurs-sun doing family stuff
07:12
< CalaveraJoe>
But I'll definitely take you up on a few when we do meet up
07:12
<@randolph>
kk
07:13
< CalaveraJoe>
I also hate that these don't in dark bley http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=92280
07:14
< CalaveraJoe>
don't come in
07:14
< CalaveraJoe>
what the feck is wrong with my hands tonight
07:14
<@randolph>
try the vinyl dye?
07:14
<@Ced23Ric>
... so close to weathering ...
07:14
< CalaveraJoe>
Not /really/ that critical, I can use black or red for most anything I'd use them in
07:15
<@randolph>
What *do* you use them in/
07:15
<@randolph>
?
07:16
<@randolph>
I've used them twice, once as kneepads, once as elbowpads
07:16
< CalaveraJoe>
Unless I'm remembering wrong, Ive got one as the joining piece between the lower body / leg part and upper body of an Ijad thingy I built
07:16
< CalaveraJoe>
No pics anyplace
07:16
<@randolph>
Ced: What happened to your evil plan to vinyl dye T-bars black? :D
07:17
< CalaveraJoe>
Also, their the feet for that thing I linked the pic of
07:22
< Dukayn>
CJ - 1x2 plate with a 1x1 clip will do basically the same job
07:23
< CalaveraJoe>
True
07:23
< CalaveraJoe>
its one of those "if they have any" toss in parts
07:23
< Dukayn>
be slightly taller but not by enough to worry about
07:23
< CalaveraJoe>
Especially not with digitigrade legs
07:24 * CalaveraJoe should probably pick up some droid torsos at some point too
07:24
< CalaveraJoe>
All I've got are a few in tan
07:24
<@randolph>
oh man, I need droid torsos like woah
07:24
< CalaveraJoe>
*whistles* .30+ a pop
07:25
<@randolph>
in either black or white
07:25
< CalaveraJoe>
thats for dark bley
07:25
< CalaveraJoe>
Fuuuu .45 for black ones
07:25
<@randolph>
it's kind of a bitch that PAB online doesn't sell 'em
07:25
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah, means there's no way to gauge what's insane to pay for the
07:25
<@randolph>
Well, I mean, they're minifig parts. And you can't get those cheap, esp since droids aren't in the make-a-fig
07:25
<@randolph>
well
07:25
<@randolph>
The gauge is "BL min" ;p
07:26
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah
07:26
<@randolph>
Because if they *could* be cheaper, they would be
07:26
< CalaveraJoe>
Whoooeeee red ones? 2.90 a pop
07:26
<@randolph>
I just want the black ones for legs :|
07:26
< CalaveraJoe>
Dark bley it is, by 15 cents a pop
07:26
< Dukayn>
I've never really thought "Gee I need some droid torsos". Except when making the landmates of Malcolm's, but that was a novelty build.
07:26
<@randolph>
I was going to make a company
07:27
<@randolph>
Duk: They're my Chocobo's feet
07:27
<@randolph>
CJ: are you cleaning them out on those?
07:27
<@randolph>
If not, mind if I go in with you for a few?
07:27
< CalaveraJoe>
Just building a new wanted list for odds and ends
07:27
<@randolph>
ah ok
07:27
< CalaveraJoe>
Don't know that Ill be actually ordering
07:27
<@randolph>
heh
07:28
< CalaveraJoe>
At least before September
07:28
< Dukayn>
man I wish I had the money to make a decent sized BL order
07:28
<@randolph>
I've got a want list right now for a company of Brick Buddies
07:28
< Dukayn>
just go out there and get what I need to build my pirates.
07:28
<@randolph>
I'm finalizing the railgun launch system before I place it
07:29
< CalaveraJoe>
August is a little tight money wise
07:29
< CalaveraJoe>
Though there /is/ my student loan money at the end of the month
07:29
<@randolph>
snerk
07:29
< Dukayn>
Yeah for us especially. We're going to Melbourne for a week in 10 days. Assuming my kids don't have this flu any more.
07:29
<@randolph>
Hey, white droid torsos, a quarter a piece
07:29
<@randolph>
Though black would be better
07:30
< CalaveraJoe>
Could always dye them
07:30
< Dukayn>
*coughvinyldiecough*
07:30
<@randolph>
hehe
07:30
<@randolph>
then hell, tan it is
07:30
< Dukayn>
DYE
07:30
< Dukayn>
DAMMIT
07:30
< Dukayn>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/vmw03_gadian_b6.png
07:30
< CalaveraJoe>
Then again, I'd wager the cost of the dye eats the part savings
07:30
<@randolph>
I dunno
07:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Bahahahaha.
07:30
<@randolph>
It's a 0.10 savings per piece
07:31
< CalaveraJoe>
Well, what's a can of dye go for?
07:31
<@randolph>
er, 30 cent
07:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Facepalm 'Frame says no.,
07:31
<@randolph>
Uh... checking
07:31
<@randolph>
$20
07:31
< CalaveraJoe>
Soooo
07:31
<@randolph>
size of a can of spraypaint
07:32
<@randolph>
Need to do 67 to break even.
07:32
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah
07:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy. Calculate for losses.
07:32
< CalaveraJoe>
and hope you don't melt any
07:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
07:32
<@randolph>
melt?
07:32
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah
07:32
<@randolph>
They melt???
07:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Rather go for 80 to break even.
07:32
< CalaveraJoe>
That's how the dye works
07:32
<@randolph>
eep
07:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Bahahaha.
07:32
<@randolph>
I didn't see Mittens say anything about meltage
07:32
< CalaveraJoe>
go go chemistry
07:33
<@randolph>
Well, screw that then, I'd only do it for T-bars
07:33
<@randolph>
or other "only comes in X" stuff
07:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy: Surface material is softened up, particles settle in, and material hardens again.
07:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Too much softener and you have a pile of poop.
07:33
< CalaveraJoe>
In theory, they /shouldn't/ melt
07:33
<@randolph>
Weathering~
07:33
< CalaveraJoe>
But it can happen
07:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Totally weathering.
07:33
< CalaveraJoe>
Its why the surface looks different
07:33
<@randolph>
Dremeled microfractures
07:34
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: Ctrl + B = bold; Ctrl + U = underline
07:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm, microfractures ...
07:34
<@Ced23Ric>
boldunderlinebold and underline.
07:34
<@randolph>
My client doesn't support those inputs by default
07:34
< CalaveraJoe>
Oooh, looks like black and red 4081b's can be had for <0.02
07:34
<@randolph>
Never bothered grabbing the plugins
07:35
<@Ced23Ric>
I strip all formatting code. :D
07:35
< CalaveraJoe>
Ced23Ric: Not all IRC clients interpret them also
07:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Sounds like a client-side problem, then!
07:35
< CalaveraJoe>
Hence my / /
07:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Win 3.11 cannot run LDD, either
07:35
< Dukayn>
yeah I have to use *bold* and /italics/
07:35
< Dukayn>
for my Chrome plugin
07:35
< Dukayn>
but Ced's formatting came up OK.
07:37
<@Ced23Ric>
It's pretty damn basic.
07:37
<@randolph>
Wow CJ
07:37
<@randolph>
Metallic Silver is only 0.30
07:37
< CalaveraJoe>
droid torsos?
07:37
<@randolph>
Nvm, used
07:37
<@randolph>
new is 0.75
07:37
<@Ced23Ric>
What the balls are you talking aboot? D_
07:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh.
07:38
< Dukayn>
brb, need to pee
07:38 * CalaveraJoe has to wonder if his desire to order parts in 100 qty lots is a problem or not
07:38
<@randolph>
CJ: I think the 0.15 ones are gone
07:38
<@randolph>
I only see $0.25+ n ow
07:39
<@randolph>
Nah, I try to order more than I need, too, so I can tool around without parts limitation
07:39
<@randolph>
I *still* run out
07:39
< CalaveraJoe>
*nod* yeah
07:39
< CalaveraJoe>
Shockingly, I currently have an abundance of travis bricks
07:39
< CalaveraJoe>
but I got like 170+ with my BL orders
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Ha!
07:40
< CalaveraJoe>
>.> What? Stop looking at me like that *hoards his travis bricks* Precioussssss
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
I love this.
07:40
<@randolph>
I used 72 just in my Terracotta company
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
My roomie just texted: "Got up. #NeedsMoreCoffee"
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
That guy is hilarious.
07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
He wakes up, and for 45 minutes, he is a ZOMBIE.
07:40
< CalaveraJoe>
. . . You mean everyone isn't?
07:40
< Dukayn>
My wife's like that
07:41
< Dukayn>
Without coffee, don't even TALK to her.
07:41
<@randolph>
I know morning people
07:41
< CalaveraJoe>
I mean, shit, unless the tot is screaming when he wakes me up, I'm mush for at least 30 minutes
07:41
<@randolph>
They have strange ways
07:41
<@Ced23Ric>
He makes himself coffee while leaning his forehead against the cupboard over the counter top.
07:41
< CalaveraJoe>
My boot time is slow as shit
07:41
<@Ced23Ric>
And then, he stays frozen for 5 minutes until the coffee is ready.
07:41
< CalaveraJoe>
Crying baby, otoh, and I wake up with fucking /ninja/ skills
07:41
<@Ced23Ric>
One can (!) later, he starts to talk.
07:41
< CalaveraJoe>
5 minutes until coffeee is ready? eff that
07:41
< Dukayn>
CJ - I know what you mean
07:41
< CalaveraJoe>
90 seconds for crap keurig coffee
07:42
< CalaveraJoe>
THEN you make the good stuff
07:42
< Dukayn>
OH SHIT BABY IS CRYING, YIPPIE KI YAY MOTHERFUCKER
07:42
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: We have 4 Bodum French Presses.
07:42
< CalaveraJoe>
I have, off the top of my head, at least 8 different ways to make coffee without deviating from the standard use for the devices in question
07:42
<@randolph>
Heh.
07:43
<@randolph>
When my eldest was born, I was in the recovery room, nominally unconscious
07:43
< CalaveraJoe>
Keurig, Mr Coffee, two french presses, two espresso mokas, vietnamese coffee maker, and a single cup drip brewer
07:43 * CalaveraJoe loves him some coffee.
07:43
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmmmm, coffee.
07:44
<@randolph>
Without apparently reaching my conscious mind, I was up, around the bed, and at the crib before becoming awake due to baby crying
07:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy. YOU were recovering, eh?
07:44
<@randolph>
Nah, my wife.
07:44
<@randolph>
The hospital lets the dad stay there too
07:44
< CalaveraJoe>
Dukayn: The only time in my life I've had greater ninja skills than when responding to middle of the night baby crying is when someone turns on the lights while I'm sleeping. I've literally leapt 6 feet across the room from a dead sleep, tackled the person AND hit the light switch in one swift move
07:44
<@Ced23Ric>
To recover.
07:44
<@randolph>
To help out while she recovers
07:44
<@Ced23Ric>
To recover TWICE AS FAST.
07:45
<@randolph>
heh
07:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Because two people recover at ONCE.
07:45
<@Ced23Ric>
LOAD BALANCING.
07:45
<@randolph>
Parallel processing!
07:45
<@Ced23Ric>
The recovery is soon going to switch to quad core.
07:45
<@Ced23Ric>
You're gonna need a parent each, too.
07:46
<@randolph>
That's an awkward conversation.
07:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Is it?
07:46
<@randolph>
Well. Humans aren't wired for four parents.
07:46
<@randolph>
Maybe if you were a Pierson's Puppeteer
07:46
<@randolph>
They've only got 3, but if you count the baby...
07:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, you have a mom and a dad. So does she.
07:46
<@Ced23Ric>
+/- losses
07:46
<@randolph>
Then that'd be 6!
07:47
<@Ced23Ric>
... I guess "+" would be weird.
07:47
<@randolph>
I've heard of quad and octa, but not hexcore
07:47
<@randolph>
That sounds like magitek
07:47
<@Ced23Ric>
There's Hexcores.
07:47
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah
07:47
<@randolph>
weird
07:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Lots of em, actually.
07:47
<@randolph>
They should advertise them
07:47
<@Ced23Ric>
They are.
07:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Just not for gamers. Or consumers.
07:47
<@randolph>
No, I mean, like, with like, Dresden on the cover
07:47
<@Ced23Ric>
What.
07:47
<@randolph>
I'm joking.
07:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Dresden, as in the city in Saxonia..?
07:48
<@randolph>
As in the pulp fantasy novels
07:48
<@randolph>
Dresden Files
07:48
<@Ced23Ric>
So, uhm ... Dresden Dolls?
07:48
<@randolph>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Files
07:49
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAnyYTjjhJ0
07:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Great song.
07:49
<@randolph>
hehe
07:51 * CalaveraJoe needs moar brick modified 1 x 1 with studs on 2 sides
07:51
< CalaveraJoe>
and I blame Ced23Ric
07:52
<@Ced23Ric>
I can take the blame. I can take it all. I am not the hero you want. I am the hero you need.
07:52
< CalaveraJoe>
Lozenge?
07:52
<@Ced23Ric>
Sure.
07:52
<@Ced23Ric>
I have no idea.
07:53
< CalaveraJoe>
Batman, he needs a lozenge. Bad.
07:53
<@randolph>
have you seen how it should have ended?
07:53
<@randolph>
here, I'll save you the truoble
07:54
< CalaveraJoe>
How which one should have ended?
07:54
<@Ced23Ric>
I wonder whether it is odd that me and the roomies talk in English with each other.
07:54
<@randolph>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seBpXt8_6xs
07:54
<@randolph>
It's "How It Should Have Ended: The Dark Knight"
07:54
<@randolph>
They have a series
07:55
<@randolph>
(re: lozenge)
07:55
<@randolph>
It's worth it just for the opening in the cafe
07:57
< Dukayn>
The Avengers one is good too
07:58
<@Ced23Ric>
I just realized how sad our semi-Twitter messages are.
07:58
<@Ced23Ric>
It implies that I have one follower.
07:58
< Dukayn>
bahahahahaha
07:58
<@Ced23Ric>
:(
07:58
<@Ced23Ric>
But then again, who am I to complainß
07:59
<@Ced23Ric>
I am outta here in 4 hours, then I get a massage, go home and shower, only to meet a cutie on a bridge.
07:59
<@Ced23Ric>
First date an all. Since 2007. BIT EXCITED.
07:59
<@randolph>
do it out of order
07:59
<@Ced23Ric>
How? D:
07:59
<@randolph>
meet a cutie on a bridge, bring her home for a shower and massage
08:00
< Dukayn>
LIKE A BOSS
08:00
< CalaveraJoe>
The man's got a point
08:00
<@randolph>
For four hours
08:00
<@Ced23Ric>
We're gonna make a foto-love-story, with two beer bottles as the protagonists.
08:00
< CalaveraJoe>
... yeah, I like randolph's idea better
08:00
<@Ced23Ric>
If anyone here thinks that goes over without the occasional tongue slip, raise your hand.
08:00
<@randolph>
aww, but his is cute
08:00
<@randolph>
But you know, plan B
08:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Plan B is to do it in reverse.
08:01
<@randolph>
nod
08:01
< Dukayn>
reverse cowgirl
08:01
< Dukayn>
AW YEAH
08:01
<@Ced23Ric>
Take the cutie from the bridge home for a shower, followed by a massage and then, 4 hours in there.
08:01
<@randolph>
Good man.
08:01
< Dukayn>
Plan B. B for BOW-CHIKA-BOW-WOW
08:02
<@Ced23Ric>
I have my priorities straight.
08:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Longterm investments. :D
08:02
< Dukayn>
Just make sure she's not crazy.
08:02
< Dukayn>
You don't wanna stick your dick in crazy.
08:02
<@Ced23Ric>
I'll bounce like Flubber if she is.
08:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Already did, numerous times.
08:02
< CalaveraJoe>
Well, you might, you just don't wanna hang around long
08:02
<@Ced23Ric>
I am in the know.
08:03
<@randolph>
I am amused you are being given dating advice by three dads.
08:03
< CalaveraJoe>
What? We clearly did it right at least one time
08:03
< Dukayn>
I think it's a grea plan.
08:03
< Dukayn>
+t
08:03
<@randolph>
Depends on his priorities, but sure~
08:04
< CalaveraJoe>
Ooh, 131dark bley travis bricks at .29 a piece
08:04
<@randolph>
nooo
08:04
<@randolph>
I picked up some d. bley t-bricks for 0.15 recently, don't go over $0.20-25
08:04
< CalaveraJoe>
*nod*
08:04
< CalaveraJoe>
I try not to
08:04
<@randolph>
Well, I mean,unless there's a sudden shortage. Again.
08:04
< CalaveraJoe>
I think the ones I have now, topped out at .23
08:04
<@randolph>
Which there might be when the P-A crowd actually startsbuilding
08:05
< CalaveraJoe>
yeah
08:05
<@randolph>
But didn't you say you've got a hoard?
08:05
< CalaveraJoe>
... and?
08:05
<@Ced23Ric>
The last time I stuck Major Payne here into non-crazy, I eventually ended the fuckbuddy thing to make her pursue a relationship with a different guy.
08:05
<@Ced23Ric>
She is still with him, going strong for almost a year after I pulled out.
08:06
< Dukayn>
Your penis looks like Damon Wayans?
08:06
< Dukayn>
I wouldn't exactly advertise that...
08:06
<@randolph>
nggggh
08:06
<@randolph>
brain
08:06
<@randolph>
ow
08:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Long, hard, bald and mean?
08:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Yes.
08:06
<@Ced23Ric>
He sleeps with his eye open., too.
08:06
< CalaveraJoe>
Um, you know if he's hard and mean for more than 4 hours you should /really/ see a doctor about that
08:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Always ready, always prepared. *salute*
08:07
< CalaveraJoe>
... ow
08:07
<@Ced23Ric>
... I just realized what a whorish song this is.
08:09
<@Ced23Ric>
"I like Paris fashion show, New York, Rio, Tokyo / I like the D, I like the G / I like Louis and my V."
08:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Somehow I think, the subcontext is not Dolce & Gabana and Louis Vuitton.
08:09
<@Ced23Ric>
And she sure looks like she likes the D.
08:09
< Dukayn>
I have absolutely no idea what the frak you're talking about
08:10
<@Ced23Ric>
"I like peaches, I like cream ..." <--- Yeah.
08:10
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueVFmYXrzKI
08:10
<@Ced23Ric>
That.
08:12
< CalaveraJoe>
randolph: Hell, if travis bricks ever showed up in a PAB wall, I'd be shocked if I made it out of the store with less than 6 cups full
08:12
< Dukayn>
I wish we had PAB here in Aus.
08:13
< CalaveraJoe>
There's like.. 5 within 30-40 miles of me
08:15
<@randolph>
well, yeah.
08:15
<@randolph>
I'd go and try to crash the BL travis economy if I could :p
08:15
<@randolph>
I mean, uh, make a giant pool of t-bricks to swim in, Scrooge McDuck style <_<
08:15
< CalaveraJoe>
Sadly, it'd probably be some other shop that bought you out and resold at profit
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08:15
<@randolph>
Hey afny
08:16
< Dukayn>
sup afny
08:16
< CalaveraJoe>
Honestly, if they ever showed up in a PAB wall, I'd hop in here and offer to pick up cup fulls for people at marginally above cost + shipping
08:17
<@randolph>
Yeah. I might not be able to budget cleaning them out, but I bet I could make a dent
08:17
< afny>
o/
08:17
<@randolph>
That said... dream the impossible dream
08:17
< CalaveraJoe>
Here's the thing, I have no doubt I'd be able to sell 'em all
08:17
< CalaveraJoe>
Especially if they were in black, white, or one of the bleys
08:19
<@randolph>
Of course
08:19
<@Ced23Ric>
o/
08:19
<@randolph>
But that's a lot of buckets and trips to the car
08:19
<@randolph>
I guess we could bring a dolly
08:19
< CalaveraJoe>
I guesstimated that you could probably get 750 travis bricks per large cup
08:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Rent a truck.
08:19
<@randolph>
hee, Ced, they probably only have a couple crates of the stuff
08:20
< CalaveraJoe>
Works out to like.. .02 a brick
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh.
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
They are in crates.
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Right.
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
But the crates.
08:20
<@randolph>
Right, what I meant by impossible dream: They're never going to be on a wall, and we all know it
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
*Buy
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
They can't be.
08:20
<@Ced23Ric>
it would DESTROY the BL and PAB economy.
08:21
< CalaveraJoe>
Nah
08:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, or at least cause a huge dent.
08:21
<@Ced23Ric>
The thing is "perceived value". Right now we perceive Travis brick at a Quarter.
08:22
< CalaveraJoe>
Cause you'd get assholes like us buying them out, and very shortly there after they'd be sold and resold and the price would go right back up
08:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Realistically, it is more like 1.5 cents.
08:22
<@randolph>
Well
08:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Or, randy? Whaddaya think?
08:22
<@Ced23Ric>
You know more about such prices. :>
08:22
<@randolph>
It might be around 5-10 depending on QC requirements
08:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Counterargument.
08:22
< CalaveraJoe>
Aroo?
08:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Headlights are 4 cents.
08:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Go on.
08:23
<@randolph>
yeah, that's probably about right.
08:23
<@randolph>
so say 4 cents
08:23
<@Ced23Ric>
That is 4 cents sale price (incl. margin).
08:23
< afny>
I hit the Rockefeller PAB today and it wasn't even that good
08:24
< CalaveraJoe>
afny: the PAB walls are compete crap shoots
08:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Did you burn the place down to express your heartfelt disappointment?
08:24
<@randolph>
Ced: It boils down to economy of scale
08:24
<@randolph>
If they automate QC because they can afford to, because they're building that many t-bricks, sure
08:24
< afny>
Yes, injuring countless asian tourists and little kids
08:24
<@randolph>
there are a *lot* of headlight bricks made
08:25
<@randolph>
t-bricks are less common per set, so not only is there supply driving up perceived value on the secondary market, that implies the production scale is lower
08:25
<@randolph>
And LEGO QC is pretty damned legendary
08:25
<@Ced23Ric>
Why you so racist, Kevin? :(
08:25
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh.
08:25
<@Ced23Ric>
I wanna change the topic again.
08:25
<@randolph>
heh
08:25
<@Ced23Ric>
To something that annoyed me this morning.
08:26
< CalaveraJoe>
"<randolph> And LEGO QC is pretty damned legendary" Really?
08:26
<@Ced23Ric>
I was listening to the radio this morning, for the first time in like 5 years.
08:26
< afny>
I'm not racist, but white tourists don't wear color coded t-shirts
08:26
< afny>
so it's hard to pick them out of the crows
08:26
< afny>
-s +d
08:26
<@Ced23Ric>
And there was a call-in show, called: "Single, taken or gay?"
08:26
< CalaveraJoe>
afny: Also, no flags to coordinate
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
A guy is asked three questions and a girl has to guess what he is, based on those questions.
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Dafuw issat?!
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
*Dafuq
08:27
< afny>
really though, compared to any other toy I can think of, Lego QC Is incredible
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
"How many pairs of shoes do you have?" - "A dozen to 15." - "That is a lot! Uh-oh!"
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Fucking stereotype-marathon. O_o
08:28
< afny>
welcome to semi-scripted television.
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
(Radio)
08:28
< CalaveraJoe>
Ced23Ric: That's a show that initiates a channel change
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: Sure did.
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Still annoyed me.
08:28
< Dukayn>
Well you wouldn't be whinging about it now if it hadn't :P
08:29
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, our mayor is openly homosexual. There*s some light-hearted jokes, but people don't really give a shit.
08:29
<@Ced23Ric>
And the annual CSD parades happen in Berlin, too.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
But, fuck, srsly. That show was awfull.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Who greenlights such shit?
08:30
< afny>
Radio producers?
08:30
< afny>
Do people listen to the radio a lot over there?
08:30
< CalaveraJoe>
Here's the thing about sexuality: I don't care what anyone wants to stick where and with whom, provided it is informed and mutually consensual (the whole time, no at any time is still no)
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev: Yeah yeah. Especially in Berlin.
08:31
< afny>
I guess it might be big in big cities here, too
08:31
<@Ced23Ric>
CJ: Agreed.
08:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, I don't give a damn where person A puts his or her appendages.
08:31
<@Ced23Ric>
As long as it's not me or I consented first.
08:32
<@randolph>
re: Who greenlighted that - well, the market gets what the market wants. We have this thing over here called Jersey Shore
08:32
< CalaveraJoe>
Yeah. Ultimately the problem isn't something being made, it's something staying the hell on the air
08:35
< CalaveraJoe>
So the real problem is the mountain of mouth breathing douchenozzles who keep tuning in
08:36
< afny>
I have less of a problem with people who watch Jersey Shore than I do with people listening to Limbaugh
08:36
< afny>
I mean, reality tv is whatever, it's just like...gristle
08:38
< CalaveraJoe>
Okay. Ate dinner too damn early, now I'm starving, and I should ponder sleeping cause I've got a crapton of stuff to do tomorrow before we head out for the wedding
08:38
< CalaveraJoe>
later folks
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08:44
< Dukayn>
I'mma go have some dinner and try to stop the wife continuing to be pissy.
08:57
<@Ced23Ric>
I have a such a girly moment right now.
08:57
<@Ced23Ric>
The guy who taught me how to cook and lived with me for two years might be moving back to Berlin.
09:05
< afny>
sleep now
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09:17
<@Soren>
Sounds like a good time.
09:17
<@Soren>
I'm looking at weird parts for Ijad religious architecture.
09:17
< Dukayn>
hey Soren
09:17
<@Soren>
hey.
09:31
< Dukayn>
OK, dinner and TV time.
09:31
< Dukayn>
l8rz
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17:42
< FreefallGeek>
Hola.
17:45
< huhwhozat>
bonjour
17:46
< FreefallGeek>
Anyone in here an administrator on Mobile Frame Hanger?
17:46
< FreefallGeek>
I tried registering for the forums but unfortunately the registration email isn't reaching my inbox.
17:56
< huhwhozat>
You'll need to get in touch with schoon, I think (I'm also a newbie here), but Soren might be able to help you reach him. Try a direct chat to him.
18:52
< FreefallGeek>
In the mean-time, perhaps someone here can help me out.
18:53
< FreefallGeek>
I don't own any Legos. But I'm big on wargaming (40k, Heroclix) and seeing this game made me miss the massive amount I had when I was a kid, and I think it's something I'd like to get into with my son. But the posts all seem to indicate that building mecha requires the use of certain "special, hard to obtain blocks" like Travis blocks, T blocks, etc. I have no idea what any of those are. Where
18:53
< FreefallGeek>
would be a good place to start obtaining a crapton of Legos and also these special blocks so I can start building frames?
18:55
< huhwhozat>
I'm not really the right one to answer this, but the consensus seems to be settled around bricklink
18:55
< huhwhozat>
the site is NOT friendly to use, but you can generally find good deals
18:58
< huhwhozat>
Other alternatives are LEGO stores and their Pick-A-Brick wall (though it seems you can't easily find the special bricks there), Pick-A-Brick from the LEGO store online which generally is just a little more expensive than Bricklink, and buying sets with the parts you need/want.
19:00
< huhwhozat>
MY advice would be to go to bricklink if you want a lot of something as that'll maximize your savings. If you're just looking for a few special bricks, online PAB might be a good bet (buying in bulk from them gets expensive fast), and if you're going for sets, prefer buying multiple of one small set over one large set as you'll get a higher concentration of useful parts
19:08
< FreefallGeek>
What are good sets for building mechs?
19:08
< FreefallGeek>
And what are the "three t" blocks? Travis, T, and something else? What are those exactly?
19:09
< huhwhozat>
hold on...
19:11
< huhwhozat>
Travis: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4733, Tap: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4599, T-bar or T-piece: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4697b
19:11
< huhwhozat>
I've got to go grab some lunch, bbl...
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19:26
< Malcolm>
This little discussion: http://www.flickr.com/groups/438009@N25/discuss/72157629651731641/
19:26
< Malcolm>
Might give an indication of useful sets
19:27
< Malcolm>
If you can polke around and find the parts lists for the mobile frame garage, that might be a good place to start
19:27
< Malcolm>
http://mobileframezero.wikia.com/wiki/MF0_Garage_Kit
19:31
< Malcolm>
"Polke around"? What on earth would that even mean? Poke around, maybe
19:41
< FreefallGeek>
:)
19:42
< FreefallGeek>
Thanks you two. I've been drifting in and out as work allows. Nice to come back to so much thoughful help.
19:59
< huhwhozat>
Malcolm: polka around?
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20:09
< FreefallGeek>
So should I just go to walmart and buy a shit-ton of legos? :)
20:29
< huhwhozat>
if you're not too attached to your money, sure :D
20:30
< huhwhozat>
but buy the small sets
20:31
< huhwhozat>
3-5x a small set with good parts will get you a fair amount more useful pieces than a larger set for the same total price
20:31
< huhwhozat>
first, browse the frame designs on flickr and the forums, and try putting some together in LDD or MLCAD
20:31
< FreefallGeek>
Are there specific set "product lines" that are better? ie I assume starwars is a better choice than the medieval sets
20:31
< huhwhozat>
this will give you a good idea what to look for in terms of pieces
20:32
< huhwhozat>
yeah, starwars is good imo
20:32
< huhwhozat>
you can also go on bricklink and look at what sets are available and what parts they have
20:32
< FreefallGeek>
I downloaded LDD earlier but I noticed something strange. I downloaded a .ldd file someone had posted and the legs weren't attached and I couldn't figure out how to attach them.
20:33
< huhwhozat>
LDD doesn't recognize some connections that are physically possible
20:33
< huhwhozat>
so yeah, they sometimes have to be seperate in the digital medium
20:33
< huhwhozat>
afaik, MLCAD is better at that, but I haven't used it
20:35
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31146427@N02/7161589159/in/set-72157629901492370
20:35
< FreefallGeek>
That wallpaper there has the joints attached, but I don't know how he created that wallpaper
20:35
< FreefallGeek>
the LDD he posts is the one where the legs wont connect
20:35
< FreefallGeek>
:-P
20:35
< huhwhozat>
I got this set the other day, and it has 95 - 97% useful pieces, as long as your colors are orange and black :P
20:36
< huhwhozat>
can you link to the LDD file?
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20:36
< huhwhozat>
afny! :)
20:36
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.dukayn.net/MFZ/Seraph%20Paladin.lxf
20:36
< afny>
o/
20:36
< huhwhozat>
ty
20:37
< FreefallGeek>
Actually orange/black are probably going to be my colors. ;) Black/green was my other choice.
20:37
< huhwhozat>
nice :D
20:37
< FreefallGeek>
what set was that?
20:37
< afny>
Wait...are you Dukayn?
20:38
< afny>
Your name CONFUSES me
20:38
< huhwhozat>
oh yeah, LDD doesn't like to do tap-clip connections at certain angles
20:38
< huhwhozat>
no, that's not Dukayn
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20:38
< FreefallGeek>
Me? No! I was just talking to huhwhozat about that specific frame.
20:38
< huhwhozat>
^ that
20:38
< FreefallGeek>
And why LDD hates it's leg connections so.
20:38
<+MittenNinja>
sup fellas?
20:38
< afny>
I figured at first, but then with the orange and black
20:38
< FreefallGeek>
Mitten, hola!
20:38
< afny>
those are also his colors
20:39
< afny>
hey Mitten
20:39
< FreefallGeek>
Mitten I saw your convention flickr photos. Looks like you had fun.
20:39
<+MittenNinja>
sup freefall, I don't believe ive seen you here before
20:39
< FreefallGeek>
I'm new.
20:39
<+MittenNinja>
oh yeah, it was a blast
20:39
< huhwhozat>
Mitten! :)
20:39
<+MittenNinja>
well welcome!
20:40
< FreefallGeek>
Thanks! I'm in here picking people's brains about how to go from zero legos to three companies in the most efficient manner. :)
20:40
<+MittenNinja>
bricklink
20:40
<+MittenNinja>
by a longshot
20:40
<+MittenNinja>
or you can comission me to build them for you :p
20:40
< FreefallGeek>
Har-har. ;)
20:41
< huhwhozat>
actually... how much do you charge, mitten?
20:41
< FreefallGeek>
I'm trying to use this as an excuse to play with legos again.
20:41
< huhwhozat>
yay! :)
20:41
< afny>
if you want an excuse to play with legos
20:41
< afny>
you don't want to be efficient
20:41
< afny>
you want to cover surfaces with bricks and tinker endlessly.
20:41
< afny>
WAY more fun that way.
20:41
< huhwhozat>
^ true
20:41
<+MittenNinja>
depends on the size of the company and how much custom work you want done
20:41
< huhwhozat>
but also way more $
20:42
< afny>
depends if you have a lot of lego already
20:42
<+MittenNinja>
and color scheme, piece usage, etc
20:42
< FreefallGeek>
Haha. That's very true. But I also don't want to end up with a bunch of pieces that I'll never use (aka ninjago sets)
20:42
< FreefallGeek>
Mitten: What do you mean by custom work?
20:42
< afny>
What I did was sort out as much useful stuff from my childhood collection as I could bear to sift through
20:42
< afny>
anything 1x1
20:42
< afny>
little fiddly bits
20:43
<+MittenNinja>
if you want me to design completely custom frame designs, as in something completely unique.
20:43
< afny>
then I ordered just the basic connection bits I was missing from bricklink
20:43
< huhwhozat>
Mitten: sidechannel
20:43
<+MittenNinja>
if you want modded chubs, for example, itd be cheaper
20:43
< FreefallGeek>
afny: Sadly my massive childhood lego collection is long gone.
20:44
< afny>
:_:
20:44
< afny>
I have little advice, then, other than to read Soren's bricklinking guide in the new draft
20:44
< huhwhozat>
yes, definitely do
20:44
< huhwhozat>
and use wishlists!
20:44
< FreefallGeek>
Yeah. I think I'm going to build a company in LDD to know what connections I need.
20:44
< afny>
oh, and always order more 1x1 plates (round and square) than you think you'll need.
20:44
< huhwhozat>
Freefall: good plan
20:44
< afny>
I could never do that, but if it works for you
20:44
< FreefallGeek>
And then buy 5x more of those connections than I plan to use.
20:44
< FreefallGeek>
afny: why is that?
20:45
< afny>
just make sure the parts you use in LDD are actually available in the colors you want
20:45
< afny>
I hate LDD
20:45
< huhwhozat>
afny: for what reasons?
20:45
< afny>
but even when I had no taps or whatever, I preferred just building with what I had
20:45
< afny>
if you have no bricks, it's a good solution
20:45
< afny>
it's just not for me
20:45
< afny>
I think it's badly made, for one
20:46
< afny>
but even if it wasn't, even if it was a well thought out CAD program, I wouldn't use it, just because I don't think it's as fun as playing with plastic
20:46
< afny>
it's really just personal opinion
20:46
< FreefallGeek>
So when you all bought the "three t" pieces, how many did you buy?
20:47
< afny>
I think I bought around 30 travis bricks
20:47
< afny>
I had about 10 in my collection prior?
20:47
< afny>
and Cedric gifted me...12? or maybe more
20:47
< huhwhozat>
hmm, I agree that it's not as fun, but I think it is well designed
20:47
< afny>
It doesn't let you make your own lists/categories of parts
20:47
< afny>
that's my major gripe
20:48
< afny>
I also just don't plan my projects out in advance as much as some people
20:48
< afny>
like I said, mostly preference.
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20:48
< afny>
Curry and waffles weren't the best combination
20:49
< huhwhozat>
hahaha
20:49
< huhwhozat>
well, since I don't have many brick available at the moment, LDD is my goto
20:50
<+MittenNinja>
always order more parts than you think you'll need.
20:50
<+MittenNinja>
otherwise you wont have as many as you need
20:51
<+MittenNinja>
I've run out of lampholders, taps, clip plates, and t-pieces enough where I just went onto bricklink and was like "I'll take 200"
20:52
< afny>
I bought probably 300 clip tiles yesterday
20:52
< afny>
because I do that all the time
20:52
< afny>
with clip tiles
20:52
< huhwhozat>
out of curiousity, how many companies do you have sitting around assembled? (anyone)
20:52
< afny>
four
20:52
<+MittenNinja>
luckily my local lego store had dark bley tile clips
20:52
< afny>
yeah, that's where I got mine
20:52
<+MittenNinja>
I bought a whole big cup of them
20:52
< afny>
wow
20:52
< afny>
mine is like 1/8th of a layer near the top of a big cup
20:52
< afny>
so not that much
20:52
<+MittenNinja>
I wont run out any time soon
20:53
< afny>
but I also got some from randolph when his wall had them
20:53
<+MittenNinja>
ah
20:53
<+MittenNinja>
yeah i barely had any bley ones before that
20:53
<+MittenNinja>
I have two full companies built that aren't going to get pulled apart
20:53
< afny>
I was really hoping they'd have a grey or black 1x1 round plate
20:53
<+MittenNinja>
and then i off and on have about three more
20:53
< huhwhozat>
hmmm, we should set up a parts-share system to make the most of PAB
20:53
< afny>
so I could FINALLY replace all the orange ones in the center of my VoP company
20:53
< afny>
but nope
20:53
< afny>
only lime and orange.
20:54
<+MittenNinja>
then again, if you include the frames for my chess set comission, you can add about 4 more to that total
20:58
< FreefallGeek>
What are clip tiles?
20:58
< afny>
they're the clips that have prongs facing up
20:58
< afny>
they're 1x1, they don't have a stud
20:58
< FreefallGeek>
having a hard time visualizing that
20:59
< FreefallGeek>
googling
20:59
< afny>
I could've linked you to bricklink but my brain
20:59
< afny>
it doesn't do things.
20:59
< FreefallGeek>
gotcha
20:59
< huhwhozat>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2555
20:59
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2555
21:00
< FreefallGeek>
how many of those do you go through in a company?
21:00
< afny>
depends on the company
21:00
< huhwhozat>
question: how does the piece linked above compare to this one: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=93794 in terms of connection friction
21:00
< afny>
dunno, not sure if I have any of that second one
21:00
< huhwhozat>
yeah, I'd not seen it irl
21:00
< afny>
Freefall, one of my companies uses very few travis bricks
21:00
< afny>
it uses a lot more clip tiles
21:01
< afny>
they're pretty important even in Soren's main SC builds though
21:02
< afny>
the Chub uses six
21:02
< afny>
a scrambler uses five
21:02
< FreefallGeek>
I figure if I buy all of my connectors in black, I can just by the flat (what I consider smooth tile) pieces in my decorative colors and I should be good right?
21:02
< FreefallGeek>
*buy
21:02
<+MittenNinja>
thats how i started out
21:03
< afny>
I was cheap, so a lot of my guts are light bley
21:03
<+MittenNinja>
the iguanas are all black except for the cheese slopes and tiles
21:03
< afny>
I always found taps to be much cheaper in bley, for instance
21:03
<+MittenNinja>
really?
21:03
<+MittenNinja>
i guess i never looked
21:03
< afny>
might've just been the four stores I was buying from
21:04
< afny>
I only have ten black taps
21:04
< afny>
really sucks for making guns
21:04
< afny>
I'll get more eventually.
21:04
< FreefallGeek>
I dont mind dropping a bit of money on a hobby, I just don't want to buy a bunch of stuff I won't use.
21:04
< FreefallGeek>
and I love me some wargames.
21:04
< FreefallGeek>
I've got a few grand in heroclix and another few grand in 40k.
21:04
< afny>
if you actually get into it, you'll probably break down your companies and rebuild them enough times to make all the parts you get worthwhile
21:04
< FreefallGeek>
But when I found a wargame that lets me play with Legos? Sold.
21:05
< FreefallGeek>
Hey huhwhozat, that picture I linked you: what are the pieces clipped onto the shoulders? They're angled in almost a diamond patern but are flat and clip on
21:06
< huhwhozat>
hold on
21:07
<+MittenNinja>
afny: absolutely
21:07
< huhwhozat>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=44676
21:07
<+MittenNinja>
even my "finished" companies still change slightly
21:07
< huhwhozat>
I think that's the part
21:09
< FreefallGeek>
You're looking at the black one, I'm talking about the red "armor" on his shoulders. :)
21:10
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31146427@N02/7161589159/in/set-72157629901492370
21:11
<+MittenNinja>
those are minifig shields
21:12
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=48494
21:12
<+MittenNinja>
to be exact
21:12
< huhwhozat>
that
21:12
< afny>
wow
21:12
< afny>
those are sweet
21:13
<+MittenNinja>
i used some on one of my old builds
21:13
< huhwhozat>
I spent about 2 hours going through almost every category in bricklink, wishlisting things I might want :)
21:13
< FreefallGeek>
those are cool
21:13
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/6889954808/in/photostream
21:13
<+MittenNinja>
the guy in fron
21:13
<+MittenNinja>
t
21:13
< FreefallGeek>
And sadly there are none in black
21:14
< FreefallGeek>
actually
21:14
< FreefallGeek>
according to bricklink they're not made in red
21:14
< FreefallGeek>
are we certain that's what that is?
21:14
<+MittenNinja>
it is
21:14
< afny>
it's an LDD render
21:14
<+MittenNinja>
yeah
21:14
< afny>
colors aren't guaranteed to be accurate
21:14
<+MittenNinja>
you cna make anything any color in ldd
21:14
< afny>
that's what I meant about make sure your pieces actually come in the right colors
21:15
< afny>
when using LDD to plan a build
21:16
< FreefallGeek>
So besides the three t connectors, any super-secret blocks I need to make sure I have lots of
21:16
< FreefallGeek>
or ones that i wont get in random lego sets
21:17
<+MittenNinja>
travis bricks come in super handy
21:17
<+MittenNinja>
ummm...
21:17
<+MittenNinja>
pretty much any modified 1x1 or 1x2 plate
21:17
<+MittenNinja>
droid torsos
21:17
<+MittenNinja>
headlights
21:18
<+MittenNinja>
1x1 round plates are super useful
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<+MittenNinja>
SOREN
21:18
<+MittenNinja>
whats up ma
21:18
<+MittenNinja>
+n
21:19
< FreefallGeek>
I saw lots of photos of items that looked like chainguns.
21:19
<+MittenNinja>
usally just a technic rod with
21:19
< FreefallGeek>
Are those actual pieces or are they just made with four bars.
21:19
<+MittenNinja>
one of the end caps on it
21:20
<+MittenNinja>
or were you thinking of these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7424291330/in/photostream
21:21
< afny>
I think you're still the only one to do that
21:21
< afny>
they are cool, but large
21:22
<+MittenNinja>
yeah they are big
21:24
<+MittenNinja>
another technique is to attach lightsaber blades to binoculars
21:25
<+MittenNinja>
but again, those end up being pretty big
21:25
< afny>
you mean four binocs?
21:25
< afny>
or just one
21:25
< afny>
I've seen randolph do that without lightsaber blades for a gatling hand look
21:25
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11263807@N04/7681501824/in/pool-438009@N25/lightbox /
21:26
< FreefallGeek>
in the back, on the left
21:26
< FreefallGeek>
also, where do they get those like back center
21:26
< FreefallGeek>
*those axes
21:27
< afny>
urgh, he really needs to cover up those exposed t joints on the wallop on the left
21:27
< afny>
um, it looks like that gatling in the back is just an axle with stud connection shoved into the end of a round 1x1 brick
21:28
< afny>
with a technic fiddly bit (don't know any technic terms) around it
21:28
< afny>
that technic axle is the go to gatling piece
21:28
< FreefallGeek>
is technic different then lego?
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21:28
< afny>
they're both made by TLG
21:28
<+MittenNinja>
yeah its the technic axle
21:28
< afny>
technic is compatible for the most part
21:28
< afny>
it's just different stuff
21:28
<+MittenNinja>
its just a different type of lego
21:29
< afny>
same quality plastic and all
21:29
<+MittenNinja>
you can still use it all with normal lego
21:29
<+MittenNinja>
its usually used for more mechanical/technical (hence the name) models
21:29
< FreefallGeek>
Where do those axes come from?
21:30
<+MittenNinja>
they're for minifigs
21:30
<+MittenNinja>
not sure what sets
21:30
<+MittenNinja>
the axe blade is a seperate piece
21:30
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=53705
21:30
<+MittenNinja>
then just snap that onto a rod
21:31
< afny>
the smaller axe that wallop has is one piece
21:31
< afny>
but I don't know anything about it
21:31
<+MittenNinja>
yeah
21:31
<+MittenNinja>
its from the LotR sets
21:31
<+MittenNinja>
i think
21:32
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=94158f
21:33
< FreefallGeek>
What are the pieces call that are smooth on top? looks like I'll need a lot of those
21:33
<+MittenNinja>
tiles?
21:33
< afny>
I like this Mercutio guy
21:33
< afny>
and yeah, tiles
21:33
< afny>
I just got a handful of them in LIME
21:33
<+MittenNinja>
yeah, he's been watching for awhile
21:33
<+MittenNinja>
just started building after i pulled him over from deviantart
21:33
< FreefallGeek>
Where are you seeing his stuff?
21:34
<+MittenNinja>
wait no
21:34
<+MittenNinja>
nvm
21:34
<+MittenNinja>
thought you were talking about marcus
21:34
< afny>
I like his builds
21:34
< afny>
I was talking about Mercutio's posts, though
21:34
< afny>
dunno if I've seen many of his builds
21:35
< afny>
it really wasn't relevant at all to what we were talking about :P
21:35
< FreefallGeek>
Are there any "big" sets that have a bunch of tiles, slopes, etc in useful colors? Something for someone who has no legos to get a hefty amount of them to start experimenting
21:36
<+MittenNinja>
eh
21:36
< afny>
I dunno if this is always true, but I think you very rarely get your money's worth with sets, and even less with big sets
21:36
<+MittenNinja>
not particularly
21:36
<+MittenNinja>
yea
21:36
< afny>
especially if you only want to build robots
21:36
< afny>
better to just get good at shopping bricklink and hit your local lego stores
21:36
<+MittenNinja>
honestly your best bet is to bricklink what you need
21:36
< FreefallGeek>
I dont have any local lego stores, sadly.
21:37
< afny>
garage sales are good, too, if you live in a high pop. area
21:37
<+MittenNinja>
more reason to use bricklink
21:39
< FreefallGeek>
Fess up, what's the average amount you spend on bricklink for one purchase? ;)
21:39
< FreefallGeek>
My shopping cart price is already skyrocketing.
21:39
< afny>
I've only done it once, and spent about 55
21:39
< afny>
but I had to painstakingly cut it down from near 100
21:39
< afny>
it took forever.
21:42
<+MittenNinja>
recently? between 30 and 70 bucks
21:42
< huhwhozat>
Mitten, you were the one who spray-painted those sand green round 2x2's right?
21:42
< huhwhozat>
what paint did you use for that?
21:42
<+MittenNinja>
i used vinyl dye not paint
21:42
<+MittenNinja>
paint doesnt work to well
21:42
< huhwhozat>
ah
21:43
< huhwhozat>
how'd you go about getting it in Lego colors?
21:43
<+MittenNinja>
i didnt :)
21:43
<+MittenNinja>
its "moss green" used for the interior of a 69 camero
21:44
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7190094893/in/photostream
21:44
<+MittenNinja>
the one on the right is the lego sand green
21:44
<+MittenNinja>
the others are dyed
21:44
<+MittenNinja>
they're close, but not the same
21:45
< huhwhozat>
ahhh I see
21:47
< huhwhozat>
where'd you shop for that. Online? Auto stores?
21:48
<+MittenNinja>
online is probably your best bet
21:48
< huhwhozat>
I just want to get an idea of what's available
21:48
<+MittenNinja>
although you have to be careful to make sure you're getting vinyl dye and not vinyl paint
21:48
<+MittenNinja>
i havent been able to find a place locally that sells it
21:48
<+MittenNinja>
you might have better luck tough
21:48
<+MittenNinja>
*though
21:49
< FreefallGeek>
Mitten: What design program do you prefer?
21:49
< FreefallGeek>
LDD or something else?
21:49
< huhwhozat>
I'm getting some results on amazon. looks like VHT mostly?
21:49
<+MittenNinja>
if you have an auto shop that specializes in classic muscle cars you might be able to find some
21:49
<+MittenNinja>
Freefall: physical bricks :p
21:49
< afny>
high five
21:49
< FreefallGeek>
:-P I don't have any of those.
21:50
< FreefallGeek>
There really just needs to be a "10 of everything" button on bricklink.
21:50
< afny>
ten isn't enough
21:50
< afny>
IT ISN'T ENOUGH.
21:50
<+MittenNinja>
i'll use ldd on occasion to check if something works or to show someone a concept of a build when i havent ordered pieces yet
21:50
<+MittenNinja>
but otherwise i build with bricks
21:50
<+MittenNinja>
10 is enought for maybe 2 frames
21:50
<+MittenNinja>
MAYBE
21:51
< FreefallGeek>
There's no way I'm getting out of this for less than a few hundred then.
21:51
< FreefallGeek>
Damn you all.
21:51
< FreefallGeek>
Your shiny flikr photos have given me the "must by legos" bug.
21:51
<+MittenNinja>
huhwhozat: this is what i got http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/16971/Camaro-Vinyl-dye-12oz-can -moss-green-69/
21:51
< FreefallGeek>
I blame you.
21:52
<+MittenNinja>
blame josh, vincent, and soren
21:52
<+MittenNinja>
it's all their fault
21:53
< FreefallGeek>
And penny arcade.
21:53
< huhwhozat>
cool, thanks
21:53
< FreefallGeek>
If it hadn't been for them, I wouldn't have stumbled upon this game.
21:54
< afny>
same
21:54
< FreefallGeek>
Mitten: How many conventions have you run this at?
21:55
<+MittenNinja>
Just one so far
21:55
<+MittenNinja>
at this point I'm meeting up with people in the area and playing at local game shops to get some exposure for the game
21:55
< FreefallGeek>
Have you run other games at conventions?
21:56
<+MittenNinja>
nope, first time :)
21:56
< FreefallGeek>
How was it? Nerve-wracking?
21:56
<+MittenNinja>
not really. If anything it was busy.
21:56
<+MittenNinja>
on one day I almost didnt have time to go get something to eat
21:56
< FreefallGeek>
awesome.
21:57
< FreefallGeek>
People reacted well to a wargame played with legos? :)
21:57
<+MittenNinja>
the table cleared for a minute and i was like "if i dont pack up and get food now, i never will"
21:57
<+MittenNinja>
well, youre here because someone told you about a lego tabletop wargame didnt you?
21:58
< FreefallGeek>
Absolutely. Then again I'm a nutcase.
21:58
<+MittenNinja>
pretty much everyone appreciates lego
21:58
< FreefallGeek>
Indeed.
21:58
<+MittenNinja>
even if someone had no interest in the game they stopped by to ask what is was and check out the lego mechs doing battle on the table
21:58
< FreefallGeek>
Very cool.
21:59
<+MittenNinja>
i had to put up a sign the second day because almost everyone who walked by kept asking me "what is this?" while i was trying to teach people how to play
21:59
< FreefallGeek>
So have many other people been running this game at cons or are you leading the game promotion charge
21:59
<+MittenNinja>
josh has run some stuff out on the east coast
21:59
<+MittenNinja>
im sure they'll be at pax prime
21:59
<+MittenNinja>
and there are some people doing some MFZ related stuff out at gencon
22:00
<+MittenNinja>
but as far as I know, im the only one doing anything near the rockies
22:00
< afny>
I know Malcom did a con, too
22:00
< afny>
but I don't know where
22:00
<+MittenNinja>
yeah, hes in the UK
22:00
< afny>
Con-nnection or something
22:00
<+MittenNinja>
north of Lancaster i believe?
22:00
< FreefallGeek>
Where are you based at Mitten?
22:00
<+MittenNinja>
denver
22:01
< FreefallGeek>
I lived in colorado springs for a while
22:01
<+MittenNinja>
nice!
22:01
< FreefallGeek>
well, at the academy, but near the springs
22:01
<+MittenNinja>
where are you now?
22:01
< FreefallGeek>
Oklahoma.
22:01
<+MittenNinja>
ah
22:01
<+MittenNinja>
you should make sure to come up to the denver comiccon next year
22:01
<+MittenNinja>
its gonna be HUGE
22:01
< FreefallGeek>
I can probably swing that, actually.
22:01
< FreefallGeek>
Is that June?
22:02
<+MittenNinja>
it was fathers day weekend this year
22:02
<+MittenNinja>
not sure if they'll keep that the same next year though
22:03
<+MittenNinja>
this year was the first year they've done it
22:03
<+MittenNinja>
pulled in over 20,000 attendees
22:03
<+MittenNinja>
second biggest opening con in history
22:03
<+MittenNinja>
theyve already booked Stan Lee for next year
22:03
< FreefallGeek>
very cool
22:03
< huhwhozat>
do you know who to ask about the GenCon events? That's in my area
22:04
<+MittenNinja>
theres a thread on the forums about it somewhere
22:04 * huhwhozat goes off to serach
22:04
<+MittenNinja>
DeathZero is the guy you want to talk to though
22:04
< FreefallGeek>
mitten in those flickr photos are all of those your companies?
22:04
<+MittenNinja>
he's based in Indy
22:04
<+MittenNinja>
Freefall: yep
22:05
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7382274226/in/set-72157630140524298/lig htbox/
22:05
< FreefallGeek>
I love that beige guy in the background
22:05
< huhwhozat>
yeah I've talked to Death some
22:05
< FreefallGeek>
with that sick rifle
22:05
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7363059946/in/photostream these guys?
22:05
<+MittenNinja>
yeah they're one of my avoriter
22:05
< FreefallGeek>
yep
22:06
<+MittenNinja>
wow... *favorites
22:06
< FreefallGeek>
Can I ask a critical question?
22:06
<+MittenNinja>
sure
22:06
< FreefallGeek>
Why do you leave that one plate on the arm where you can see the interior
22:06
< FreefallGeek>
wouldnt a flat tile look better there?
22:07
<+MittenNinja>
you mean on the shoulder?
22:07
< FreefallGeek>
yeah
22:07
<+MittenNinja>
thats there to hold the net on
22:08
< FreefallGeek>
ah. Gotcha
22:08
<+MittenNinja>
if i put that flush against the shoulder it wouldnt stay
22:08
< FreefallGeek>
the net is awesome
22:08
< FreefallGeek>
looks like a mecha guilli suit
22:08
< huhwhozat>
agreed :)
22:08
<+MittenNinja>
thats the idea :)
22:08
< FreefallGeek>
really nice.
22:09
< FreefallGeek>
Ah, i just saw that in the description
22:09
< FreefallGeek>
so thats actually your defense dice?
22:09
< FreefallGeek>
lol
22:09
< FreefallGeek>
really cool
22:09
< FreefallGeek>
and damn you again *tries to find net on bricklink*
22:09
<+MittenNinja>
the nets are lego as well
22:09
<+MittenNinja>
just type net in the search bar
22:10
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=71155
22:10
< FreefallGeek>
so Soren built those Fat Snakes?
22:10
< FreefallGeek>
Do you know Soren irl or something"?
22:11
<+MittenNinja>
he just moved out of denver to malaysia
22:11
<+MittenNinja>
i met him through MFZ
22:11
< FreefallGeek>
how long has this mfz thing been around?
22:11
<+MittenNinja>
the company was a reward for one of the kickstarter levels
22:11
<+MittenNinja>
as mfz? about 6 months.
22:12
<+MittenNinja>
before that there was mechaton
22:12
<+MittenNinja>
i gave him some direction for the build i wanted and he threw them together.
22:12
< FreefallGeek>
what are those small pieces on either side of the eye
22:12
< FreefallGeek>
those are really cool
22:13
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=49668
22:13
< huhwhozat>
oh no, please don't overuse the teeth :P
22:13
< huhwhozat>
they're great, in SMALL QUANTITIES
22:13
< FreefallGeek>
Lies.
22:13
< huhwhozat>
(like the fat snakes)
22:14
< FreefallGeek>
*orders 600*
22:14
<+MittenNinja>
the MgN versions use like 8
22:14
< afny>
I've started to use them as feet in hardsuits
22:14
<+MittenNinja>
yeha, they work well there
22:14
< afny>
I don't have nearly enough of them
22:15
< FreefallGeek>
It makes me sad when I realize even a basic 1x1 with a clip is 5 cents
22:15
< huhwhozat>
yeah, I must say I don't like them on the back of th MgN :P
22:15
< huhwhozat>
personal pref. tho
22:15
< afny>
that seems a little high, but I might be wrong
22:15
< afny>
look at different stores/colors
22:15
< afny>
I feel like I bought them for three cents
22:16
< FreefallGeek>
how many did you buy
22:16
< FreefallGeek>
see this is the problem im running into
22:16
< FreefallGeek>
I look at just the 1x1 and 1x2
22:16
< FreefallGeek>
and there are a hundred different configurations
22:16
< FreefallGeek>
lol
22:16
< FreefallGeek>
If I bought 20 of all of them
22:16
<+MittenNinja>
dont buy 20 of all of them
22:16
< huhwhozat>
afny, how long have you been involved with MF0?
22:16
<+MittenNinja>
buy these
22:16
< afny>
uhh, since the second time tycho posted about it I think
22:17
< afny>
when he posted the first rules draft
22:17
< afny>
I had looked at the kickstarter and stuff the first time he posted it, but I didn't get into it until the draft.
22:17
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=6019
22:17
< afny>
and I dunno, I bought probably 20-30 light bley vertical clip plates, but that's something that i had a lot of to start with
22:17
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=4081b
22:17
< afny>
in black
22:17
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=4085d
22:17
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=2540
22:18
< afny>
yeah, that's the meat
22:18
<+MittenNinja>
everything else as far as mod plates go is more or less situational
22:21
< huhwhozat>
what's the diff between http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4085b and http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=4085d ?
22:21
< FreefallGeek>
what pieces did you use to make that ruler on the flikr?
22:21
< huhwhozat>
U clip cs. O clip?
22:21
< huhwhozat>
which means?
22:21
<+MittenNinja>
slight variation in the shaoe of the clip
22:21
<+MittenNinja>
Shape*
22:22
<+MittenNinja>
the O clips are the newer ones, and in my experience hold a bit better
22:22
<+MittenNinja>
but they all work
22:22
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7180443105/in/photostream/
22:22
< FreefallGeek>
that chestpiece in the middle is sick
22:23
<+MittenNinja>
the ruler is made of these http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=30387
22:23
< huhwhozat>
thanks Mitten
22:23
<+MittenNinja>
np
22:23
<+MittenNinja>
yeah thats a pretty standard chestpiece for the chub
22:24
< FreefallGeek>
So what do you remove from the bot when, say, your High Mobility Legs are destroyed?
22:25
<+MittenNinja>
the 2x2 plates on the side of the legs
22:26
<+MittenNinja>
chest piece comes off for the armor
22:26
<+MittenNinja>
gun and pile bunker for the weapons
22:26
< afny>
I can never do the chest piece for armor thing, but apparently it's standard
22:27
< afny>
I feel like it's not believable as a cockpit anymore if you remove that piece
22:27
<+MittenNinja>
i always think of the pilot as being in between the taps in the torso
22:28
< afny>
if a pilot fills up almost the whole of a Hi-leg head
22:28
< afny>
then I can't see them filling much less than the whole of a Chub torso
22:28
< afny>
I don't view the taps as representative of anything real
22:28
<+MittenNinja>
im going off of a 2b1p lego dude
22:29
<+MittenNinja>
not the pictures from the rulebook
22:29
<+MittenNinja>
if you go by that, the high leg shouldnt be that cramped
22:29
< afny>
its still pretty cramped if you hold it in your hands compared to a 7p fig
22:30
< afny>
I dunno, I mean
22:30
< afny>
I think the slope is definitely representative of armor
22:30
< afny>
designed to protect the pilot
22:30
< afny>
but removing it just removes too much bulk, especially near the waist
22:31
<+MittenNinja>
eh, like the rules for the game, i try not to overthink realism
22:31
< afny>
I'm not too concerned with realism
22:31
< afny>
I guess I just don't like the way a chub looks with four studs in the chest
22:31
< huhwhozat>
imo, it's a matter of preference. AS long as both you and you're opponent know what it represents, it'll be fine
22:32
<+MittenNinja>
you could always pop a 2x2 tile on there after removing the slope
22:32
< huhwhozat>
though really, once things start getting blown off a frame, it's not going to look all that pretty :P
22:32
< afny>
I only have one Chub in all my companies right now
22:32
< afny>
and it's got a shoulder mounted chaff launher
22:32
< afny>
+c
22:32
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7516677656/in/photostream/
22:32
< afny>
its*
22:32
< FreefallGeek>
What are those awesome shoulders?
22:33
<+MittenNinja>
bionicle pieces
22:33
<+MittenNinja>
it was more of an experiment that something i was actually going to use
22:33
< huhwhozat>
whaoh I hadn't seen this guy yet
22:33
<+MittenNinja>
there is just too much of a hollow gap inbetween the upper arm and lower arm
22:34
< huhwhozat>
I really like the bayonets :)
22:34
< afny>
yeah, I never really bought those arms
22:34
< afny>
it was the color that killed it for me, too
22:34
< huhwhozat>
looks a bit skinny around the thighs
22:34
< afny>
hard to tell them apart from the weapons
22:34
<+MittenNinja>
yeah
22:34
<+MittenNinja>
like i said, more of an experiment than anything else :)
22:34
<+MittenNinja>
plus i wanted to mess with an opening cokpit as well
22:34
<+MittenNinja>
+c
22:35
< afny>
lots of good stuff came out of that period though, if I recall
22:35
<+MittenNinja>
yep
22:35
<+MittenNinja>
i actually discovered a few of the techniques i used on the MgN fat snakes
22:36
<+MittenNinja>
namely the legs
22:39
< FreefallGeek>
Mitten did you already have a large lego collection prior to playing mf0?
22:40
<+MittenNinja>
sort of, but very little of it was useful for this
22:41
<+MittenNinja>
i started out by getting parts to build 5 of squieu's mini-frames from PAB online
22:41
<+MittenNinja>
then bricklinked parts from there to mod them a bit
22:41
<+MittenNinja>
and slowly started building my collection from there
22:42
< FreefallGeek>
How long have you been doing this?
22:42
< FreefallGeek>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mittenninja/7584653934/in/photostream/ and how is that chestplate made? lol
22:42
<+MittenNinja>
since around march?
22:43
< afny>
Freefall, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jed_september/5693490016/in/set-72157626508973904
22:43
< afny>
that's how an mgn looks internally
22:44
< afny>
you can do all sorts of different chests with it
22:44
<+MittenNinja>
you beat me to linking it :p
22:46
< afny>
one day I'm going to revist my MgN company
22:46
<+MittenNinja>
ive become a big fan of MgNs
22:46
<+MittenNinja>
really versatile
22:47
< afny>
they were the first things I built when my bricklink order came in
22:47
< afny>
I love that frame
22:47
<+MittenNinja>
Id still say that the MgN or the Mini-Frame is my favorite
22:47
< afny>
I've never really been a fan of the mini frame
22:47
< afny>
I really don't like the way the tpiece is utilized in the torso
22:48
< afny>
it's just too much of a focal point if you do anything other than lots of light bley
22:48
<+MittenNinja>
yeah, i can see that
22:48
<+MittenNinja>
there are ways to cover it up though
22:48
< afny>
this is still probably my favorite frame to base MFZ frames on: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=907843
22:49
< afny>
the AFI specifically, not just zizy frames in genral
22:49
<+MittenNinja>
yeah the AF series is pretty good
22:49
<+MittenNinja>
I just have trouble finding ways to attach arms in a way I'm happy with to those frames
22:50
< afny>
the way the AFI gets to the head from the leg plate is what I really like about it
22:50
< afny>
most of the AF frames attack from a ring plate in the torso
22:50
< afny>
but the AFI gets a more rounded, utilitarian look by building the head up out of the backpack
22:50
<+MittenNinja>
one day i may mess with them more
22:50
< afny>
attach*
22:51
< afny>
and yeah, if you don't like hinge plate arms
22:51
< afny>
it can be a challenge
22:51
<+MittenNinja>
yeah and i dont really dig them
22:51
<+MittenNinja>
theyre ok for legs
22:51
<+MittenNinja>
but they bother me as arms
22:51
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7589410162/in/photostream
22:51
< afny>
I'm a huge fan of them honestly
22:52
<+MittenNinja>
i like having wrist articulation
22:53
< afny>
you get it if you just put one clip plate on the interior stud
22:53
< afny>
although it's a different plane than the clip tile wrist articulation
22:53
<+MittenNinja>
yeah
22:53
<+MittenNinja>
you cant twist the wrist
22:54
<+MittenNinja>
which is pretty vital for using two handed weapons if you want your frame to actually hold them with two hands
22:54
< afny>
yeah, true
22:54
< afny>
really none of my frames can do that, though
22:55
<+MittenNinja>
alrighty, i gotta get ready for work
22:55
<+MittenNinja>
later fellas!
22:55
< afny>
I guess ape tanks can sort of hold a rifle across their chest, though the foregrip hand is just close
22:55
<+MittenNinja>
yeah
22:55
<+MittenNinja>
the fat snake snipers for example are actually holding their rifles with both hands
22:55
< afny>
yeah
22:55
< afny>
I never really build in elbow articulation
22:56
< afny>
hinge plate arms just happen to have it
22:56
< afny>
it is nice for those huge snipers
22:56
<+MittenNinja>
yeah or sure
22:56
<+MittenNinja>
+f
22:56
<+MittenNinja>
alrighty im out
22:56
< afny>
p/
22:56
< afny>
o/*
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< FreefallGeek>
alright im out for a bit
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< FreefallGeek>
later guys
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