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| 00:37 | | DZ|Food is now known as DeathZero |
| 00:37 | < DeathZero> | back. |
| 00:42 | < afny> | I almost was motivated to go sort all my tablescraps |
| 00:42 | < afny> | but the moment passed |
| 00:42 | < afny> | it's all I can do to just keep that sorted |
| 00:42 | < afny> | I still have bins of bricks that don't really work for frames unsorted |
| 00:42 | < DeathZero> | same here |
| 00:42 | < DeathZero> | I've got all the stuff thats usefull sorted. |
| 00:44 | < afny> | mine mostly was but then breaking down a company and building a new one |
| 00:44 | < afny> | somehow got bricks everywhere |
| 00:44 | < afny> | now I'm yet again deliberating breaking stuff down |
| 00:45 | < DeathZero> | :/ |
| 00:46 | < afny> | if I broke down my UMFL company AND my Hammerheads |
| 00:46 | < afny> | that'd be two of my demo kit companies gone, BUT I could easily put my new ijad company in as the 3 frame defenders |
| 00:46 | < afny> | and make a new UMFL company with some new frames |
| 00:47 | < DeathZero> | now why would you wanna do that |
| 00:48 | < afny> | cause I wanna make NEW STUFF |
| 00:48 | < afny> | and I think my UMFL company is a bit of a mary sue company honestly |
| 00:48 | < afny> | gonna sort this shit and then I'll decide |
| 00:49 | < DeathZero> | take the Voice of Paradise frames are the ones you dismantled |
| 00:49 | < DeathZero> | take it^ |
| 00:50 | < afny> | nah, they're my main company |
| 00:50 | < afny> | the one I'd field if I ever get friends who make their own frames |
| 00:50 | < afny> | I took apart the expats |
| 00:50 | < afny> | right now my demo kit is all still intact |
| 00:50 | < DeathZero> | Ah |
| 00:50 | < afny> | as are the rest of the frames in each company |
| 00:50 | < afny> | lets see, I have.. |
| 00:50 | < DeathZero> | I like the Voice of Paradise frames the best out of your demo kit. |
| 00:51 | < afny> | yeah, same |
| 00:51 | < afny> | right now, I have...8 Jellyfish |
| 00:51 | < afny> | er...9 Voice of Paradise frames |
| 00:51 | < afny> | 8 Starlight Sisters |
| 00:51 | < afny> | 3 Hammerheads |
| 00:51 | < afny> | and then two unassigned |
| 00:51 | < DeathZero> | Ah. |
| 00:52 | < DeathZero> | lots of frames |
| 00:52 | < afny> | the unassigned ones don't have any travis though |
| 00:52 | < afny> | which is what I want to mess with |
| 00:52 | < afny> | so breaking them down doesn't help |
| 00:53 | < DeathZero> | Yea. I suppose not |
| 01:06 | < afny> | hm |
| 01:06 | < afny> | I could redo my mafia company with hardsuits |
| 01:11 | < DeathZero> | lol. o-o |
| 01:19 | < DeathZero> | grasshopper's right, those walls do look more reasonable at a 4 brick height. |
| 01:20 | < afny> | 4 total? |
| 01:21 | < afny> | so only one above the cover line? |
| 01:22 | < DeathZero> | it'd be 4 bricks plus a row of plates on top and bottom. |
| 01:22 | < DeathZero> | I suppose only the plates on top matter. |
| 01:23 | < DeathZero> | he claimed that at 4 bricks plus plates that each section should be able to absorb 4 hits. |
| 01:23 | < Noah> | randolph: Yo, yous thar brah? |
| 01:23 | < DeathZero> | I'm not sure where he's getting that from. |
| 01:23 | < DeathZero> | I can see some area's that'd be gone after two hits. |
| 01:24 | < DeathZero> | maybe a 5 brick height. |
| 01:25 | < afny> | You're gonna have other kinds of cover on the table, right? |
| 01:25 | < afny> | nothing wrong with having it huge if there's other, weaker cover in other places |
| 01:26 | < DeathZero> | Yea, other cover, but I'd like to balance it out to like a 4-5 hit threshold on the walls. |
| 01:28 | < DeathZero> | quite a few things that we've got are only 1-2 hit cover areas |
| 01:28 | < afny> | I've got a lot of those too |
| 01:29 | < afny> | probably not enough multi-hit cover but |
| 01:29 | < afny> | oh well |
| 01:29 | < afny> | as long as no side gets a huge advantage in placement |
| 01:30 | < DeathZero> | I figure I'll eventually make some like 8-9 cover peices |
| 01:30 | < DeathZero> | but yea, usually pretty even. |
| 01:33 | < afny> | that garage I made is like |
| 01:34 | < afny> | a fuuuuckton of cover |
| 01:34 | < afny> | but I figure it will be placed as close to the middle as three players can get it |
| 01:34 | < afny> | and it's also elevation |
| 01:34 | < afny> | my cover is generally asymmetric...a few pieces are 5-6 hits |
| 01:34 | < afny> | the garage is a billion |
| 01:34 | < DeathZero> | I think I might have seen it but...pic? o_O |
| 01:34 | < afny> | and everything else is generally 1-3 |
| 01:35 | < afny> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7471059046/in/set-72157630352043914 |
| 01:35 | < afny> | it doesn't really look like a garage in that picture because you can't see the doors on the back I guess |
| 01:35 | < DeathZero> | ah that one |
| 01:35 | < afny> | I also added one shot of cover on the elevation |
| 01:35 | < DeathZero> | is it solid? |
| 01:35 | < DeathZero> | or hollow |
| 01:35 | < afny> | nah but it's got a lot of bricks |
| 01:35 | < afny> | and those tiles are pretty numerous |
| 01:36 | < DeathZero> | I see that. |
| 01:36 | < afny> | at rough estimate it's anywhere between 20 and 30 hits |
| 01:38 | < DeathZero> | wow. |
| 01:42 | < DeathZero> | Yea, I like 5+plates/tile on the height for those walls. |
| 01:42 | < DeathZero> | Puts it just under the standard chub height. |
| 01:42 | <@randolph> | hey guys |
| 01:42 | < DeathZero> | hey randolph. |
| 01:42 | <@randolph> | @ noah, what'd you need? |
| 01:43 | < Noah> | @NotTwitter |
| 01:43 | < Noah> | PMing you |
| 01:45 | < DeathZero> | lol. |
| 01:47 | < Noah> | #IRCisBetter |
| 01:52 | < DeathZero> | totally. |
| 02:05 | < DeathZero> | hahaha, big gun ftw. |
| 02:10 | < DeathZero> | Back after a bit. |
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| 04:19 | < DeathZero> | o_O |
| 04:30 | < DeathZero> | I'm headin off to bed. later folks. |
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| 06:36 | <+MittenNinja> | Sup fellas |
| 06:51 | <@randolph> | Hey MN |
| 06:55 | < TopHunter> | howdy |
| 07:01 | < TopHunter> | so i just restarted my lego collection tonight, got about 2000 pieces :D |
| 07:18 | <+MittenNinja> | Wait, you restarted it? |
| 07:18 | <+MittenNinja> | You mean re sorted? |
| 07:25 | <@randolph> | Maybe he bought some of those ebay grab bags |
| 07:28 | < TopHunter> | As in, my old collection is in another state |
| 07:28 | < TopHunter> | so from scratch I go :P |
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| 16:45 | <+MittenNinja> | heya guys |
| 16:45 | <+MittenNinja> | Malcom! I don't think ive seen you on here before |
| 16:49 | < Malcolm> | An occasional visitor |
| 16:50 | <+MittenNinja> | Nice |
| 16:50 | <+MittenNinja> | I think I'm finally going to get around to messing with the MgN today |
| 16:51 | < Malcolm> | Aha, there's life in the old dog yet! |
| 16:51 | <+MittenNinja> | :) |
| 16:51 | <+MittenNinja> | Its been something Ive been wanting to do. But all these other things keep popping up |
| 16:52 | < Malcolm> | I shall put my psychic hat on a predict a verion in sand green or moss green.... |
| 16:52 | <+MittenNinja> | I was finally getting to it and then you posted the landmate |
| 16:52 | <+MittenNinja> | hahaha |
| 16:52 | <+MittenNinja> | more likely sand |
| 16:52 | <+MittenNinja> | i would use the dye unless it was something I was planning on using for a company |
| 16:53 | <+MittenNinja> | *wouldnmt |
| 16:53 | <+MittenNinja> | -m |
| 16:53 | <+MittenNinja> | goddamn keyboard |
| 16:53 | < Malcolm> | Well, I look forward to seeing what you come up with |
| 16:53 | <+MittenNinja> | me too! Thanks |
| 16:54 | <+MittenNinja> | btw, I really liked how you did the SSRs on your landmate company |
| 16:55 | < Malcolm> | Actually, that was a bit of a bodge job. I really wanted to make them cylindrical, but I only have one 1x1 round tile at the moment |
| 16:55 | <+MittenNinja> | Yeah, I still dont have any |
| 16:55 | <+MittenNinja> | they still look good man! |
| 16:56 | < Malcolm> | Cheers! |
| 16:56 | <+MittenNinja> | so what part of the UK are you from? |
| 16:56 | < Malcolm> | The ECM pod on the white landmates is actually how I envisaged the rocket pod. |
| 16:57 | < Malcolm> | But the 1x1 round tiles and a bit silly expensive at the moment |
| 16:57 | <+MittenNinja> | Thats what I thought it was at first :) |
| 16:57 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 16:57 | <+MittenNinja> | I should see if I can get some on the wall at my lego store |
| 16:58 | <+MittenNinja> | They're .10 on the online pick a brick |
| 17:04 | < Malcolm> | Hmmm, I might use that option |
| 17:07 | < Malcolm> | If shipping wasn't so heinous. Ah well, you win and you lose |
| 17:08 | < Malcolm> | BTW, I like this idea that circulating and being used of having pre-defined teams for demo games. Why we didn't think of it, I don't know. Because getting people to design their companies at a demo takes bloody ages. |
| 17:09 | <+MittenNinja> | haha |
| 17:09 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 17:09 | <+MittenNinja> | definitely wanted to avoid that |
| 17:10 | <+MittenNinja> | then you just ask "do you want to play really aggressively, tactically, or defensively?" |
| 17:12 | <+MittenNinja> | Speaking of companies. What do you think of the composition of my Pit Vipers? |
| 17:12 | <+MittenNinja> | build wise |
| 17:13 | < Malcolm> | In terms of the attachment selection? |
| 17:14 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 17:16 | < Malcolm> | Very attack minded, I'll say that. |
| 17:16 | < Malcolm> | I might be tempted to drop the gun from the Asp and make them all 2xHtH |
| 17:16 | < Malcolm> | Stick your SSRs on them and hope for the best. |
| 17:17 | <+MittenNinja> | I thought about it. |
| 17:17 | < Malcolm> | With those universal spots work ing from them, they could do some serious damage |
| 17:17 | <+MittenNinja> | Maybe I'll give that a shot and see how it plays out |
| 17:19 | < Malcolm> | The only thing about the Longbows - and I've thought about this with my own companies - is once you lose one of those spots, they suddenly become a whole lot less useful. |
| 17:19 | <+MittenNinja> | I realized, after building them, that the Asp Ambushers are bascially Aussalt Space Marines. |
| 17:19 | <+MittenNinja> | True, I hadnt thought of that |
| 17:21 | < Malcolm> | I've been thinking about that kind of thing lately (amongst other things): Double spot is great, but we have a tendency to ally it with artillery and leave it hanging out the back of the field. I'm certain their must be better tactical compositions. |
| 17:21 | <+MittenNinja> | The only downside is that the rest of the company is so Attack focused that thet really dont have room for the spots |
| 17:21 | <+MittenNinja> | The more I've thought about double spot, the more I find it not worth it |
| 17:21 | < Malcolm> | Why not drop the artillery and go for a double spot/single direct/armour combo? |
| 17:22 | < Malcolm> | I think double spot is actually really good, but more than one is maybe a bit much |
| 17:22 | <+MittenNinja> | I do want SOME artillery |
| 17:22 | <+MittenNinja> | After a good amount of play, I've found white dice can actually be extremely effective for spotting, especially if you have a G |
| 17:23 | < Malcolm> | Yeah, that's something I actualy disagree with in the rules: I don't think you should be allowed to spot unless you have a spotting attachment. |
| 17:23 | < Malcolm> | But that's a gripe I've had for years now, and Vincent/Josh have very good reasons for not giving up on it. |
| 17:24 | <+MittenNinja> | for sure |
| 17:25 | < Malcolm> | Bloody hell, I've about had enough of these declassified documents for the day |
| 17:25 | <+MittenNinja> | ? |
| 17:25 | < Malcolm> | Nearly time for dinner, I think. |
| 17:25 | < Malcolm> | Oh, the documents are part of my doctoral research |
| 17:25 | <+MittenNinja> | ah |
| 17:25 | <+MittenNinja> | doctorate of what? |
| 17:26 | < Malcolm> | PhD in History, specialising in Anglo-American nuclear non-proliferation policy towards the developing world in the 1970s |
| 17:26 | <+MittenNinja> | way cool |
| 17:26 | < Malcolm> | Lot less cool than you'd think! |
| 17:26 | <+MittenNinja> | one question |
| 17:26 | <+MittenNinja> | what do you do with that? :p |
| 17:27 | < Malcolm> | Become a university lecturrer in history, I hope! |
| 17:27 | <+MittenNinja> | nice |
| 17:27 | <+MittenNinja> | Thats the only thing that stops me from working towards something like that |
| 17:27 | <+MittenNinja> | I'd love to delve super deep into theology or mythology or something |
| 17:28 | <+MittenNinja> | but then I have to spend years and years and lots of money |
| 17:28 | <+MittenNinja> | and then maybe get a job speaking somewhere. |
| 17:28 | <+MittenNinja> | I just wish there were other applications for stuff like that |
| 17:28 | < Malcolm> | Wwell, I worked in the private sector for ten years after doing my undergrad until I realised I had no soul left. So quit the rat race, traveled round the world, went back to uni to do postgrad, now to the PHD and teach here in Edinburgh. A lot less money, but a whole lot less sould destroying |
| 17:29 | <+MittenNinja> | for sure. |
| 17:29 | <+MittenNinja> | As long as I'm making enough, I dont care about the rest as long as it is actually enjoyable |
| 17:29 | < Malcolm> | I'd recommend it to anyone, but in the current economic environment, it's tough to do without a bit of luck. |
| 17:30 | < Malcolm> | I was lucky in selling my house and leaving the UK before things went tits up financially |
| 17:30 | <+MittenNinja> | wait, so youre not in the UK anymore? |
| 17:30 | < Malcolm> | Now that I'm back, I've got enough to keep me going until I finish. |
| 17:30 | <+MittenNinja> | ah |
| 17:30 | < Malcolm> | Well, I traveled for a years or so, then live in New Zealand for a couple of years |
| 17:30 | <+MittenNinja> | gotcha |
| 17:30 | < Malcolm> | Now back in Edinburgh |
| 17:31 | < Malcolm> | So, you're in Denver, yes? |
| 17:31 | < Malcolm> | Or thereabouts? |
| 17:31 | <+MittenNinja> | yeah, one of the surrounding suburbs |
| 17:31 | <+MittenNinja> | I've never been that far north in the UK. How is it up there? |
| 17:31 | < Malcolm> | Wet, generally. |
| 17:32 | <+MittenNinja> | ha, well yes :) |
| 17:32 | < Malcolm> | But that aside, Edinburgh is a great city, and the Highlands are only a couple of hours drive away, so it's a pretty nice place to be |
| 17:32 | <+MittenNinja> | Inice |
| 17:33 | <+MittenNinja> | I spent some time in North Wales (colwyn bay more specifically) and loved it. |
| 17:33 | < Malcolm> | There are some lovely parts of Wales. Although, I will shamefacedly admit to having seen far too little of the place. |
| 17:33 | <+MittenNinja> | I'm a big fan of everything I've seen in England |
| 17:34 | <+MittenNinja> | Definitly want to go back somday |
| 17:34 | <+MittenNinja> | *someday |
| 17:34 | < Malcolm> | My wife is from Yorkshire, and that is a really lovely part of England. |
| 17:36 | < Malcolm> | Right, I must leave the office and go get some dinner. Need to line the stomach, a four day craft beer festival has just started here and I will be doing some sampling this evening |
| 17:36 | <+MittenNinja> | Thats just north of Leeds, correct? |
| 17:36 | <+MittenNinja> | oooh nice |
| 17:36 | <+MittenNinja> | enjoy yourself man |
| 17:36 | < Malcolm> | Leeds is the main town for her part of Yorkshire |
| 17:36 | < Malcolm> | Good city |
| 17:36 | < Malcolm> | Lots of stuff to do. Many very good pubs. |
| 17:36 | <+MittenNinja> | I love me a good pub :) |
| 17:37 | < Malcolm> | When I was in the US recently I had an excellent time exploring the craft beer scene. That might explain why I got rather less research done than I should have. |
| 17:37 | < Malcolm> | Right, time to go. Have a good one! |
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| 20:25 | < DeathZero> | Afternoon folks |
| 20:25 | < DeathZero> | O_o newest member on the board, CrayolaSmoker.....what the hel |
| 20:57 | <@randolph> | It's for health reasons: wax is less toxic than tar. |
| 21:00 | < DeathZero> | o_O |
| 21:01 | < DeathZero> | Does the same thing, coats your lungs. lol. |
| 21:01 | <@randolph> | But it says right on the packaging! "Non-toxic." |
| 21:01 | <@randolph> | Also, you never see a surgeon general's warning on crayons, do you? |
| 21:02 | < DeathZero> | I don't think the surgeon general thought about people smoking them. |
| 21:02 | <@randolph> | I think you're suffering from anti-pigment propoganda. |
| 21:02 | < DeathZero> | totally |
| 21:02 | < DeathZero> | XD |
| 21:05 | < DeathZero> | >_> Down with pigment! Unscented, uncolored wax for everyone! |
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| 21:08 | <+MittenNinja> | Any of you folk interested in playing a MFZ campaign over Maptools? |
| 21:11 | < DeathZero> | maybe |
| 21:11 | < DeathZero> | It'd help me get a better handle on some of the rules. |
| 21:11 | < DeathZero> | You wantin to do like a set day/time every week or what? |
| 21:15 | < afny> | I might be interested but I haven't been keeping up |
| 21:15 | < afny> | I'll throw together some tokens |
| 21:16 | < afny> | What's the format for tokens? |
| 21:17 | < afny> | oh, png |
| 21:17 | < afny> | I just downloaded your rar |
| 21:17 | < afny> | Well let me know about the server and times and stuff |
| 21:22 | < afny> | Also, do we need to make our own station tokens? |
| 21:23 | <+MittenNinja> | Its for Sage's Slirranthi campaign |
| 21:24 | <+MittenNinja> | Axehead had to drop out so we are one man short |
| 21:24 | <+MittenNinja> | http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1665 |
| 21:25 | <+MittenNinja> | and afny, just download Tokentool from the Maptool site |
| 21:25 | <+MittenNinja> | You just drag pictures into it and create tokens that way. |
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| 21:31 | < afny> | the tokentook options are |
| 21:31 | < afny> | OFFENSIVELY ugly |
| 21:33 | <+MittenNinja> | you mean the borders? |
| 21:33 | < afny> | yea |
| 21:33 | <+MittenNinja> | there are some much less ugly ones towards the bottom of the drop down menu |
| 21:34 | <+MittenNinja> | just simple circles |
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| 21:38 | < afny> | they're still kind of ugly and aliased |
| 21:38 | < afny> | Imma just use photoshop |
| 21:43 | < afny> | oh god, switching my option and command and control keys around for starcraft |
| 21:43 | < afny> | has totally fucked me in photoshop |
| 21:43 | < afny> | I guess all those fucking hotkeys were just muscle memory because now that I've switched the inputs I know NONE of them |
| 21:45 | < afny> | I literally can't find the hotkey combo that lets you resize the pen with a drag |
| 21:45 | < afny> | I've tried every combo |
| 21:50 | < afny> | and wow |
| 21:50 | < afny> | this key remapper doesn't seem to have profile support? |
| 21:50 | < afny> | WHAT KIND OF SHITTY SOFTWARE IS THIS |
| 21:51 | < DeathZero> | lol. |
| 21:52 | < DeathZero> | I didn't see anything in there about times to play and whatnot. |
| 21:52 | < afny> | fucksake |
| 21:52 | < afny> | I disabled the remapper and I still can't change my pen size with a drag |
| 21:52 | < afny> | literally the most useful function ever |
| 21:52 | < afny> | and I don't know how to use it anymore |
| 21:59 | < DeathZero> | I gotta head out for a while |
| 21:59 | < DeathZero> | Catch ya guys later! |
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| 22:26 | < afny> | well it took much longer than it should've |
| 22:26 | < afny> | but TOKENS. |
| 22:31 | < afny> | http://imgur.com/a/XK24F#HUfWm |
| 23:15 | <+MittenNinja> | lookin good afny |
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