mf0 logs -> 2012 -> Mon, 25 Jun 2012< mf0.20120624.log - mf0.20120626.log >
--- Log opened Mon Jun 25 00:00:03 2012
--- Day changed Mon Jun 25 2012
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< carbonbass>
One of my projects this week is an actual lightbox of some kind. Somebody posted a DIY collapsible lightbox on the forums recently that looked nice
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<+Tetrajak>
Heh
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<+Tetrajak>
yea, it does
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<+Tetrajak>
I was going to build it, but then I just shelled out for a collapsible one and some lights
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<+Tetrajak>
>.>
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<@randolph>
hee
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< carbonbass>
I would, but all my real money these days goes to gas, lego, and ammo.
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< afny>
Ced, you still here?
00:01
< afny>
Ceddobear
00:01 * afny pokes
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<@Ceddobear>
I am.
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<@Ceddobear>
Sorry, dungeon crawling with the roomies.
00:02
<@Ceddobear>
Had a smokebreak before the boss fight.
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< afny>
ah, if you're busy I won't bother you
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<+Tetrajak>
randolph: I would put the effort in, but I don't see it as being worth it. Sure, I enjoy the finished product, but it's the lego I enjoy, much more than the pictures
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< afny>
wanted to brainstorm about a good 3 frame company comp
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< afny>
my feeling is DF Y Y B, DF DF Y B, then one split range DF/A 3 systems guy with a B
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<@randolph>
@ TJ: I can understand that. I just see MFZ as much more multifaceted than that, and am attracted to creating in many of those facets
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<@Ceddobear>
Sounds good.
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<@randolph>
afny: What is the intended target profile for the 3-frame company?
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<+Tetrajak>
randolph: yes, it certainly is multi-faceted, but only certain parts of it attract me
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<+Tetrajak>
randolph: or, perhaps, seem worth the effort involved when there is a great deal more that I have to get done in life XD
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< afny>
target profile
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< afny>
?
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< afny>
they're FC somethin somethin
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< afny>
digitigrade bipeds
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< afny>
urban/desert camo
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< afny>
they shoot things
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<@randolph>
What I mean is 'what's the biggest company it needs to be able to take on, of what type?"
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<@randolph>
Or are you only planning it in fluff?
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< afny>
it's specifically for a demo
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< afny>
right now I have it up against two other companies in a 3 way skirmish
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<@randolph>
TJ: Ah, yeah, I do some product releases IRL, so it's kind of low-hanging fruit / cross-training
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<@randolph>
afny: are those already built?
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<@randolph>
er diced
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< afny>
one is...4 frames: 1x DF Y Y B, 1x DF DF Y B, 1x DF DF G B, 1x 3split DF/A, B
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< afny>
one is 5 frames: 2x DF Y Y B, 1x A A G B, 1x 3split DF/A and B, 1x DF Y G B
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< afny>
the 4 frames company MIGHT be changed out to a hand to hand focused team
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<+FerrelFerret>
yo
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<+FerrelFerret>
o/
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<@randolph>
hey FF
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<@randolph>
afny, taking a look sec
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<@randolph>
afny: If I were going to showcase HtH, I would make them the largest company
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<@randolph>
They're gonna need ablative dudes
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<@randolph>
For the 3, you want them to be able to hit hard and outlast
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<@randolph>
So maybe nothing but DF YY B and DFDF Y B
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< carbonbass>
Anybody know what section the Pneumatic T is in on LDD?
00:28
<@randolph>
Technic
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<@randolph>
pneumatic
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< afny>
eh
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< afny>
I don't want to make the biggest company hth
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< afny>
I want the big company to be based on spotting for artillery
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< afny>
so do you think I should do 3/4/5 or 4/4/5?
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< afny>
I feel like 3/4/5 is neater, but I worry no one would want to play with only 3 frames, and it would also be easy to fuck up
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<@randolph>
Someone demos with 3/4/5
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<@randolph>
I forget who
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< afny>
Josh
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< afny>
+ua
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<@randolph>
Well, heck, if he does it, there must be something that works abotu it
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<@randolph>
it's not like some random forumguy who has single-digit games under his belt
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<@randolph>
Definitely don't go HtH with the 3
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<@randolph>
HtH already suffers from action loss without ALSO suffering from action disparity
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<@randolph>
Hm.
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< afny>
yeah, never thought about it for the 3
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< afny>
only the 4
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< afny>
hth doesn't look that great on digitigrade mechs anyway
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< afny>
and I had to make these guys pretty exaggerated to get a really different outline
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< afny>
from the chubs and the nimrods
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<@randolph>
Ok, so let's think about this
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<@randolph>
What does 3 have going for it? High starting initiative, defensive perimeter, high AV.
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< carbonbass>
It just isn't there, even using the search. This is why we can't have nice things.
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<@randolph>
What does it have going against it? High AV loss per asset, outnumbered by 33% and 66%, respectively
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<@randolph>
cb: can't you just use the design ID?
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< afny>
well each frame will DEFINITELY get a B
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< carbonbass>
Ah, they don't list it as pneumatic in LDD
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<@randolph>
At those numbers, against 9 opponent frames (triple!), I'd want to not be too much of a threat, steal stations
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< carbonbass>
Just T-piece
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<+Tetrajak>
carbonbass: they are in technic gears
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< afny>
the enemy is going to attack you anyway
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< afny>
woo base frames done
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< afny>
now I just need to greeble and systemize
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<@randolph>
afny: Yes, they are
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< afny>
I just mean
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<@randolph>
But against those compositions, you can't do anything about it
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< afny>
I don't think "steal stations" is a good mid game plan
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<@randolph>
You're going to have to give up stations to not lose actions
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<@randolph>
Therefore, you're going to have to steal stations just to stay ahead in init
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<@randolph>
"Last in frames, last in init" is a terrible place to be
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< afny>
So why DF Y Y B?
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< afny>
What's the point of YY if you don't have any A
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< afny>
wouldn't just three DF DF Y B be better?
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<+Tetrajak>
the YY is for an obsession with spot chains across a greater distance. e.g. if you were to split the frames up across the map, they could still spot for each other
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< afny>
doesn't seem like that'd be a good strategy with only three frames
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<@Ceddobear>
Nah.
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<@Ceddobear>
Move them in a cluster.
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<@Ceddobear>
DF / Y is your go-to config.
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<@randolph>
afny: I only left that there because that was your original suggestion
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<@randolph>
I assumed that some consideration is for demoing the features to new players
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<@randolph>
"You have this d8 because you have two red systems. You have global spot because you have two yellow systems," etc
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< afny>
both the other companies have YY
01:00
<@randolph>
Hey, don't look at me, *you* picked it :P I thought you were giving each player the chance to mess with stuff
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<@randolph>
(4:03:41 PM) afny: my feeling is DF Y Y B, DF DF Y B, then one split range DF/A 3 systems guy with a B
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< afny>
but that company had A
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< afny>
so it made sense
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< afny>
well.
01:01
< afny>
it made MORE sense.
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<@randolph>
realistically, in a 3-way, you're always going to have DF targets
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< afny>
I think I'm just going to do DF DF Y B x3
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< afny>
but I got caught up building a fourth frame
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<@randolph>
heh
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< afny>
wow
01:04
< afny>
Soren was not lying when he said the ST-05 neck connection was "technical"
01:04
< afny>
fuck this shit
01:05
< afny>
I GOT IT
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<+Tetrajak>
ST-05?
01:07
< afny>
urgh
01:07
< afny>
I don't remember what the head is supposed to look like at all
01:08
<@randolph>
magnet clip
01:08
<@randolph>
flat end is the face
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< afny>
hm
01:09
< afny>
then I don't know how to get that angle
01:09
< afny>
the tile clip that connects to the taps in the center angles back pretty hard
01:09
< afny>
I might've done it wrong
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< afny>
you sure it wasn't just a headlight head?
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< afny>
hm
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< afny>
I think it just uses two 1x2s as spacers in the chest
01:13
<@randolph>
The pic you gave me of his MgNs had one magnet head
01:14
< afny>
that...was just a picture of MgNs
01:14
< afny>
did I say MgN?
01:14
< afny>
I meant
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< afny>
ST-05
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<@randolph>
oh
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<@randolph>
Nvm!
01:16
<@randolph>
Did you ever crack that neck joint?
01:16
< afny>
nope, but I haven't really tried since
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<@randolph>
gotcha
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< afny>
especially because I'm sort of thinking about crunching that company
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<@Ceddobear>
Alright.
01:29
<@Ceddobear>
Soren's here.
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<@Ceddobear>
TJ left.
01:29
<@Ceddobear>
Randy's here.
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<@Ceddobear>
Kev's here.
01:29
<@Ceddobear>
I'm here.
01:29 mode/#mf0 [+vv afny DeathZero] by Ceddobear
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<@Ceddobear>
Dizzee joined us.
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<@Ceddobear>
WHAT NOW.
01:30
<@Ceddobear>
Bed now.
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<@Soren>
Alas.
01:30
<@Ced|Bed>
Heh.
01:30
<@Ced|Bed>
Well, it was a good day.
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<@Ced|Bed>
I kept my output up.
01:31
<@Soren>
I'm looking forward to crazy high-speed game footage later.
01:31
<@Ced|Bed>
Video's DONE.
01:31
<@Soren>
whenever 'later' ends up- ooh.
01:31
<@Ced|Bed>
And 16GB footage have been reduced to 880MB.
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<@Ced|Bed>
In 720p, too.
01:31
<@Ced|Bed>
But now begins the ardous task of subbing it.
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<@Ced|Bed>
It's gonna take forever and ever.
01:32
<@Soren>
yeah
01:32
<@Ced|Bed>
I mean ... it's 145 minutes.
01:32
<@Ced|Bed>
2 minutes takes me about 10.
01:32
<@Ced|Bed>
You do the math.
01:32
<@Soren>
mm.
01:32
<@Ced|Bed>
I think I won't get it done before the weekend, realistically.
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<@Ced|Bed>
Option B: Upload it without subtitles.
01:33
<@Ced|Bed>
We speaks Germanglish anyway. :D
01:33
<+afny>
just speed it up
01:33
<@Ced|Bed>
THat makes it worse to sub. O_o
01:33
<+afny>
don't sub it
01:33
<+afny>
speed it up and put that arctic monkeys song over it
01:34
<@Ced|Bed>
No dude.
01:34
<@Ced|Bed>
We had music running.
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<@Soren>
Subtitles would be funny, but I"m mostly curious about the progression of the game, and I'd need to set up my headphones to listen to anything.
01:34
<@Ced|Bed>
It sounds like we went to a local techno club.
01:34
<@Ced|Bed>
And then, went to the VIP.
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<@Ced|Bed>
To play MFZ.
01:34
<@Ced|Bed>
While there's a party/rave in the background. :D
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<@Ced|Bed>
Okay, I started the upload.
01:35
<@Ced|Bed>
It's gonna take ~3h to get on my server.
01:35
<@Ced|Bed>
If it's done tomorrow morning (there's still a 24h discon that my poop in my plate ...) I'll just link it.
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<@Ced|Bed>
I hope you guys can handle *.f4v files. :D
01:36
<@Ced|Bed>
(It's really H264 footage.)
01:36
<@Ced|Bed>
Anyway, gotta get up at 6, so bed now
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<@Ced|Bed>
(That's in 3.5h)
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<@Ced|Bed>
Later!
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<+DeathZero>
o_O
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<+DeathZero>
sorrh, was reading.
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<+DeathZero>
sorry^
01:37
<@Ced|Bed>
And then, you got confused? D:
01:37
<@Ced|Bed>
Your life must be a raging madness of influxes.
01:37
<+DeathZero>
No I was reading the trasit gate stuff on the forums.
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<@Ced|Bed>
Kchchchch.
01:38
<@Ced|Bed>
"THIS DOESN'T SOLE ANYTHING!" - enraged WangTech customer, point at the shoemaker LazyBot 307.
01:38
<+DeathZero>
XD
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<@Ced|Bed>
+ing
01:38
<@Ced|Bed>
But you know.
01:39
<@Ced|Bed>
It was a perplexing theory anyway.
01:39 * Ced|Bed is off to share more to his bed.
01:39
<+DeathZero>
Yea.
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<+DeathZero>
later
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<+afny>
night Ced
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< Mantisking>
I miss anything?
01:45
<+DeathZero>
me :D
01:45
<@Soren>
no.
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< Mantisking>
'kay.
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< Mantisking>
{* goes back to farting around *}
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<+afny>
well I think I'm gonna do 4/4/5 now
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<+afny>
with the defenders just down a system
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<+afny>
this super cobbled ST-05 is just so nice
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<+afny>
can't leave him out
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< CaGeRit>
Hey all.
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< Mantisking>
Hey.
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< CaGeRit>
Bear witness to my days labor http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/tenebrae_shadow/Miniatures/SSU/
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< CaGeRit>
I know, not lego, but I feel the need to share.
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<+afny>
Soren, I'm totally ripping off your tanky digitigrades, particularly the #4
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<+afny>
for this demo company
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<+afny>
(hope you don't mind)
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<@Soren>
please.
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<+afny>
is there an old brown
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<+afny>
and a new brown?
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<@Soren>
yes.
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<+afny>
god damnit.
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<+DeathZero>
meh, tired of readin stuff on the boards. gonna go play some lego batman 2.
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<+DeathZero>
later folks.
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<+afny>
I'm at that point where I'm tired enough that I've lost dexterity
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<+afny>
but not tired enough to stop building
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<+afny>
so I'm just in a vicious cycle of throwing and breaking things
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<@Soren>
I know that stage well.
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< CarbonBass>
BAM!
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<+Tetrajak>
that too
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<+Tetrajak>
wb carbon
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<+FerrelFerret>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferrelferret/7436881310/
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<+Tetrajak>
FerrelFerret: I'm guessing the middle dish, and the 2x2 dome
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< CarbonBass>
Meep
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<+Tetrajak>
meep
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< CarbonBass>
Colors are hard
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<+Tetrajak>
What do you mean?
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<+Tetrajak>
choosing them, or finding the ones you want in your bricks?
03:38
< CarbonBass>
Part of me Choosing
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< CarbonBass>
Choosing*
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< CarbonBass>
Part of me wants to do a traditional tan desert camo scheme, then part of me wants orange
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< CarbonBass>
Or dark red
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< CarbonBass>
Haven't been able to find dark orange in bulk yet, still digging through BL stores
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< CarbonBass>
dark red*
03:40
< CarbonBass>
Really scatterbrained tonight
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<+Tetrajak>
Would you like some help with choosing colours?
03:43
<+afny>
it's just too much to ask for a working sd card reader
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<+afny>
too much.
03:43
< CarbonBass>
Always too much
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< CarbonBass>
@TJ: I think what I'm going to do is Tan, then have a splash of dark red as a unit marker on the shoulder or something.
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<+Tetrajak>
That sounds like a good plan
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<+Tetrajak>
afny: always too much when you need it
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<+afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Dogfish.JPG
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<+afny>
BLATANT ripoffs
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<+afny>
I ain't ashamed.
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< CarbonBass>
Those are sweet looking
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<+afny>
they're gonna be the defenders for my demo campaign
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<+Tetrajak>
they look awesomely raw and industrial
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<+afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/2465756227/in/photostream
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<+afny>
based on these if you haven't seen them
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<+Tetrajak>
I like how they look like mass-produced minimum-expense weapons for the army
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<+afny>
wish I could say it was my look :|
03:50
<+afny>
my legs are a little more "minimum-expense" than Soren's, though
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<+afny>
SO THERE'S THAT.
03:50
<+Tetrajak>
Oh, I meant your ones
03:50
<+afny>
yea
03:50
<+Tetrajak>
Soren's look like they are more expensive
03:50
<+Tetrajak>
yours look like resistance fighters who happened to work at the factories
03:50
<+afny>
mine don't have power windows
03:50
<+Tetrajak>
this is still a cool thing
03:51
<+afny>
maybe that IS what they are
03:51
<+afny>
I have no idea yet
03:51
<+afny>
I'm not sure who they are or what they're defending
03:52
<+afny>
hm, I'm going to replace the grey bumper on top of the black one with a black tile
03:52
<+afny>
it looks like a yamaka
03:54
<+Tetrajak>
lol
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<+afny>
I also want to replace those T joints in the feet with taps
03:55
<+afny>
and take the talon/plate clip off the back
03:55
<+afny>
when I get some more taps, they'll look a little nicer
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<@Soren>
I'm liking those guys.
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<@randolph>
yamaha or yarmulka?
04:02
<@randolph>
ah, based on the picture, yarmulka
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<@randolph>
Should I work on a TTT project or the transforming frame?
04:04
<@Soren>
Flip a coin.
04:04
<@randolph>
brb building a coin out of LEGA
04:04
<@randolph>
LEGO
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<@Soren>
Also, no inherent reason for them to be mutually exclusive.
04:04
<@randolph>
("A," fingers? Really?)
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<+afny>
TTT?
04:05
<+Tetrajak>
Sure, it's the LEGA, the lego gaming console
04:05
<+Tetrajak>
Buy the all new LEGA Megadrive!
04:06
<+FerrelFerret>
Lega CD
04:07
<+Tetrajak>
Every console comes with built in LDD!
04:11
<+Tetrajak>
holy shiiiiiiiiit; http://www.flickr.com/photos/wintermute2600/7437325086/
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< CarbonBass>
One would hope the windscreen is fireproof...
04:13
< CarbonBass>
That's a great build though
04:13
<+Tetrajak>
yes :D
04:15
<+FerrelFerret>
Awesome
04:23
<+Tetrajak>
it's the best Prometheus I've seen so far
04:23
<@randolph>
wow
04:24
<@randolph>
@ afny: a build with no Travis, Taps, or T-junction
04:24
<@randolph>
Think of it like a Nethack conduct~
04:26
<@randolph>
Voluntary challenges: You have been illi-T-rate. You have never committed a travisty. You have never tapped dat.
04:26
<+afny>
oh, I just didn't get the acronym
04:26
<+afny>
I already posted in that thread
04:26
<+afny>
I was like...Terran..Transit Tax?
04:26
<+afny>
Nope. Chuck Testa.
04:27
<+Tetrajak>
randolph, you have a gift for puns
04:28
<@randolph>
Thanks
04:29
<@randolph>
Some people have a voices in their heads shouting obsceneties or whispering temptation
04:29
<@randolph>
I have a trollface guy with imagemacros
04:32
<+FerrelFerret>
Working on a no T build right now
04:33
<@randolph>
I propose we rename the challenge the Total Recall challenge
04:34
<+FerrelFerret>
Sounds good...
04:34
<+FerrelFerret>
but it's Mittens baby, so it has to go by him':)
04:34
<@randolph>
Yeah, but he'd probably hit me when he figured out *why*
04:39
<+Tetrajak>
and the why of it is?
04:39
<@randolph>
3 Ts~ (bar scene)
04:40
<+Tetrajak>
... argh.
04:40
<+Tetrajak>
that was terrible
04:41
<@Soren>
It's like you're not even trying to avoid getting keelhauled for punning.
04:42
<+Tetrajak>
that is a very tempting course of action
04:43
<@Soren>
it just seems like the thing to do, you know?
04:43
<@randolph>
The only one close enough is CalaveraJoe, and he doesn't even know
04:44
<+Tetrajak>
Quick, we must inform CJ. He shall be our instrument.
04:44
<+afny>
Someone send him a keel.
04:50
<+afny>
Okay, I'm going to bed before I drop this frame for the fourth time
04:50
<+afny>
night all o7
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05:37
<+FerrelFerret>
night, afny.
05:37
<+FerrelFerret>
o/
05:37
<@randolph>
heh
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06:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Gentledudes.
06:27
< Dukayn>
DUDE
06:27
< Dukayn>
GUESS WHAT THE KANGAROO JUST DROPPED OFF
06:28
<@Ced23Ric>
:D
06:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Fucking finally.
06:28
< Dukayn>
I know right?
06:28
< Dukayn>
BTW
06:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Yes?
06:28
< Dukayn>
Is... is there a frying pan in there?
06:28
< Dukayn>
Cos I'm pretty sure I see a frying pan.
06:28
<@Ced23Ric>
There may or may not bet a frying pan in there.
06:28
< Dukayn>
Bahahaha
06:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Intelligence mutters something about a potential pot, too.
06:29
< Dukayn>
Yeah, that's in there too :P
06:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Maybe a camera..?
06:29
< Dukayn>
Yeah definitely a camera
06:29
< Dukayn>
and a ninja sword
06:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
06:29
<@Ced23Ric>
COMBINE!
06:29
< Dukayn>
SUSHI CHEF FRAME
06:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Camera + Pan + Pot + odd bits = SMG.
06:29
< Dukayn>
IRON CHEF ZERO: RAPID FLAMBE
06:33
<@randolph>
hehehe
06:33
<@randolph>
grats Duk
06:34
< Dukayn>
we figured out the problem with why it took so long
06:34
< Dukayn>
I was checking the mail each day
06:34
<@Soren>
We need rules for that.
06:34
< Dukayn>
First time in 2 months that the wife checks, it arrives.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Can I burn pTss
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
*?
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Your wife apparently has a knack for the mail man.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
OH SNAP.
06:38
< Dukayn>
What's he done now?
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Attention whoring, AGAIN.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
And this time, I will set fire to the brain.
06:39
<@Ced23Ric>
I added a smiley, so he cannot be mad.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1688&p=12145#p12145
06:45
< Dukayn>
"Ced23RicYour wife apparently has a knack for the mail man." << It's a woman.
06:47
< Dukayn>
BTW I don't think you're off on your post to pT there dude, but... do you really need to toot your own background thread so much? It sounds like a huge brag.
06:47
< Dukayn>
You probably don't mean it to but it does kinda come off that way :P
06:48
< Dukayn>
And I added a smiley so you can't be upset ;)
06:48
<@Soren>
Yes. If there's one thing the internet has taught us, it's that clashing penis posts are always funny.
06:49
< Dukayn>
Oh of course they are.
06:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, it's to put things into perspective.
06:51
<@Ced23Ric>
I changed it a bit.
06:54
<@randolph>
If you want perspective without horn-tooting, maybe you should point to someone else's stuff, like Mittens
06:54
<@randolph>
Or someone that got Josh to comment on positively
06:54
<@randolph>
etc
06:56
<@randolph>
augh
06:56
< Dukayn>
Does it need perspective? The point of the post is to point out that the backgrounds aren't for fishing for praise. I don't think examples of better-written and more detailed backgrounds threads is relevant. But that's just my opinion, I don't expect Ced to do anything about it. I'm just voicing what I think.
06:56
<@randolph>
I can't believe I missed it :p
06:57
<@randolph>
I had three separate hinge mechanisms to do a transform
06:57
<@randolph>
when... all I needed was the last one
06:57
<@randolph>
Hm.
06:57
< Dukayn>
lol
06:57
< Dukayn>
overkill much
06:57
<@randolph>
Isn't "ignoring attentionwhoring" good enough for putting attentwhores in their place?
06:57
<@randolph>
I mean calling them out just looks douchey
06:58
<@Soren>
That assumes you can get everyone to obey a prohibition.
06:58
<@Soren>
You can't.
06:59
<@Soren>
What you can do is come down on them without being too much of a douche.
06:59
<@randolph>
what's the thing being prohibited? attentionwhoring?
06:59
<@randolph>
(I haven't kept up with forumdrama)
06:59
<@Soren>
responding to attention whores.
07:00
<@randolph>
ah, well, theoretically, looking like a douche is its own reward/punishment
07:00
<@Soren>
responding to any form of trolling, though. If people troll, other people are going to respond. You can't stop people from responding, but you can try to be the voice of reason.
07:00
<@randolph>
Does it stick in your craw when you have to be the voice of reason to stop a penisfight~
07:02
<@Soren>
depends on whether or not it's a good, hilarious penisfight.
07:02
<@Soren>
if it's just stupid, it doesn't stick at all.
07:04
<@randolph>
Oh god this transform is so sexy, but I don't have ANY of the right colors
07:04
<@randolph>
It feels great and the silhouette is great, but the example is so hideous
07:04
<@Soren>
Idiots fighting on the internet about trivial things need to be reminded that we only tolerate stupid fights when they're funny.
07:04
<@randolph>
*example's colors are so hideous
07:05
<@Soren>
So, it looks like the transformation prototypes for a lot of Macross stuff.
07:05
<@Soren>
(which are Lego, in case that hadn't spread.)
07:05
<@randolph>
wat
07:05
<@randolph>
really?
07:06
<@Soren>
yep. Let me find you a picture.
07:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Cleaned it up more.
07:10
<@Soren>
http://www.mechadamashii.com/category/videos/page/17/
07:10
<@Soren>
http://www.mechadamashii.com/videos/videos-inside-satelight-inc/ whups.
07:11
<@randolph>
Sexy
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07:29
<@Ceddobear>
Ah, instable network. Lovely.
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07:32
<+Tetrajak>
eh?
07:41
<@Ceddobear>
My internet is poopy at times at work.
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07:55
<+Tetrajak>
so I se
07:55
<+Tetrajak>
see
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09:33
<@randolph>
Ok, I have a cool jet that turns into a robot with dorky legs
09:33
<@randolph>
I'll deal with this tomorrow
09:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Hrm.
09:34
<@randolph>
nn folks
09:34
<@Ced23Ric>
You should have a cool jet that turns in to a decent robot.
09:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Night Randy.
09:34
<@randolph>
yeah
09:34
<@randolph>
I know
09:34
<@randolph>
I'm super unhappy with the legs, but my brain just isn't keeping up anymore
09:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Didya see the finalized japchubs?
09:34
<@randolph>
I did!
09:34
<@randolph>
I like the ninja tabi
09:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Let's talk tomorrow about jetlegs. (Heh)
09:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Thanks. :D
09:35
<@randolph>
The dragonmuskets are also hot
09:35
<@randolph>
I wanted to use the dragonhead as captain shoulders on the TW, but they were too big
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10:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya TJ.
10:11
<+Tetrajak>
Heya Ced
10:11
<@Ced23Ric>
So, what's shakin'?
10:12
<+Tetrajak>
not much
10:12
<+Tetrajak>
kinda tired from work
10:12
<+Tetrajak>
got a lot done though
10:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, I know that feel.
10:15
<@Ced23Ric>
My senior and my coworker are both gone for a few weeks.
10:15
<@Ced23Ric>
I get a substitute and a temp worker to fill in.
10:15
<@Ced23Ric>
So I am basically running this place.
10:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Suddenly, my boring job got interesting. :D
10:30
<+Tetrajak>
Heh, awesome
10:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah. :D
10:30
<+Tetrajak>
my boss is away on Fridays, so I can do what I like then
10:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Our local Tourette's guy is here right now.
10:31
<@Ced23Ric>
He's talking to me about some random ass forest in South West Germany.
10:31
<+Tetrajak>
admittedly, though, I'm coding a program that I designed, and getting paid for it, so I actually work on Fridays as well (it's enjoyable to create :D )
10:31
<+Tetrajak>
so he's giving you a really cool story, bro?
10:32
<+Tetrajak>
anywho, I'm off for the night
10:32
<+Tetrajak>
take care, and have fun
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10:36
< Dukayn>
You have an ass forest in Germany?
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
A forest full of ass.
10:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah dude.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
It's like ... a picturesque forest, the "Black Forest".
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Maybe you heard of it.
10:46
< Dukayn>
yeah they made a cake or something
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
But in all reality, pollution has destroyed most of it, except for some touristy spot.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, Black Forest Cake.
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
It's cherries in cherry sauce, layered in chocolate fluffy dough with cream and chocolate coating.
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Very sweet, moist and rich.
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Also, pure hip gold.
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13:13
< Dukayn>
I built a harrier :D
13:14
< Dukayn>
pics incoming
13:14
< Dukayn>
well, pending
13:42
< Dukayn>
Ceddobear: http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1652&p=12152#p12152
13:44
<@Ceddobear>
*looksies*
13:44
<@Ceddobear>
HOLY SHYTE.
13:45
<@Ceddobear>
Nice work.
13:45
< Dukayn>
Cheers
13:45
< Dukayn>
I hate my lamp at the moment
13:45
<@Ceddobear>
Well, I know what I sent parts out for now. :D
13:46
<@Ceddobear>
Wait for daylight.
13:46
< Dukayn>
Hehe
13:46
< Dukayn>
Yeah I'll do some tomorrow when the kids aren't around.
13:48
<@Ceddobear>
Let me cite Mr. Myagi.
13:48
<@Ceddobear>
"You've done well. You passed ... every test."
13:50
< Dukayn>
Thanks.
13:50
< Dukayn>
And I didn't pull apart the Condor to do it, so I have 2 whole frames built AT THE SAME TIME.
13:51
< Dukayn>
I'M LIVING THE FUCKEN DREAM.
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15:35
< afny>
hallo
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey sexy.
16:05
<@Ced23Ric>
It's Hipstertime for me.
16:06
< afny>
Ah. Hipstertime.
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17:40
<+MittenNinja>
POOP JOKES
17:41
<+MittenNinja>
When did we add poop jokes?
17:43
<~Noah>
When we added Cedric
17:52
<+MittenNinja>
Ha
17:59
< afny>
Hey Mitten
18:08
<@Ced23Ric>
You're face is poop.
18:12
< afny>
How did Hipstertime go
18:16
<+MittenNinja>
What's up afny?
18:16
< afny>
Oh, was just saying hey
18:16
< afny>
but now I DO have a question
18:17
< afny>
what kind of stations did you use for your demo/how big were they?
18:17
< afny>
I'm thinking I'm only going to give the defenders "stationary" objects, and both attacking teams will have some sort of thing they could've conceivably brought with them
18:29
<+MittenNinja>
Just little structure made our of those jet engine pieces
18:30
<+MittenNinja>
4x4 base roughly
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18:58
< afny>
I had some of those made but I think I'm gonna mix it up
19:11
<@Ced23Ric>
And back.
19:11
<@Ced23Ric>
Hipster time was a 3h reality check for him.
19:11
<@Ced23Ric>
I pretty much busted half of his business plan.
19:12 * Ced23Ric marks down 3h for consulting services.
19:14
<+MittenNinja>
http://www.motifake.com/81010
19:14
< afny>
did he agree to your hourly/
19:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
19:14
< afny>
nice
19:15
< afny>
I'm pretty close to done with my demo campaign
19:15
<@Ced23Ric>
And I finally called his clients hipsters. Heh.
19:15
< afny>
I'm sure he's aware
19:15
< afny>
hipsters usually are self-aware
19:15
<@Ced23Ric>
He is now for sure.
19:15
<@Ced23Ric>
He was like: "I come to you with 5 questions, get 3 answers and leave with 10 problems."
19:15
<@Ced23Ric>
I said: "I know. You're welcome."
19:16
< afny>
heh
19:16
<@Ced23Ric>
He wants to compete with etsy.
19:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Good luck.
19:16
< afny>
yeah
19:16
< afny>
that's sort of impossible unless etsy somehow fucks up bigtime
19:16
< afny>
you can't really compete directly with that kind of thing
19:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, but he WANTS TO.
19:17
< afny>
Well I've had a productive morning
19:17
<@Ced23Ric>
I also made him call his highest account level for sellers "Unobtainum". :D
19:17
< afny>
heh
19:17
<@Ced23Ric>
The mid level is prolly gonna be Tiberium. ^^
19:18 * Ced23Ric loves to troll.
19:18
<+MittenNinja>
I've been trying to come up with a name for the ore that's being mined on Orion 6
19:18
< afny>
make a low level one "Vespene"
19:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Unobtainium, dude.
19:18
<+MittenNinja>
I toyed using Unobtanium for the time being
19:18
< afny>
ugh, please don't use it seriously
19:18
<+MittenNinja>
im not
19:18
<@Ced23Ric>
I DO.
19:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Call it "Unabtanium". ;)
19:18
<@Ced23Ric>
ANYWHO.
19:18
<+MittenNinja>
If I did use it, it would only be as a placeholder until i figured out what i would actually call it
19:19
<@Ced23Ric>
I AM FREE.
19:19
<+MittenNinja>
I"LL TAKE IT
19:19
<@Ced23Ric>
MY WORKDAY HAD 14 HOURS.
19:19
<@Ced23Ric>
FUCK.
19:19
<+MittenNinja>
oh wait
19:19
< afny>
Now that you're free, help me with my demo campaign
19:19
<+MittenNinja>
i thought you meant you were free as in "i dont cost anything"
19:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh, come July, I will train three new employees.
19:19
<@Ced23Ric>
Did I mention I am still in probation period?
19:19
<@Ced23Ric>
The hilarity is mind boggling.
19:19
< afny>
you better be getting raise
19:19
< afny>
a*
19:20
< afny>
sounds like they're making you do a bunch more work
19:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, guess what I will do after I am out of probation.
19:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, it's crunch time now.
19:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Senior is on vacation, and my coworker is gone on curative leave with his son.
19:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Because his son is mentally scared after he saw his dad attack someone with an axe.
19:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Let's not get into that.
19:21
<@Ced23Ric>
So, I am currently running the IT of the Federal Ministry of Health of Germany in Berlin.
19:21
<@Ced23Ric>
My subordinates are a temp worker and a substitute from a city 500km to the West.
19:21
<@Ced23Ric>
And yeah. Pretty cool.
19:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Did I mention I'm in probation period?
19:22
<~Noah>
<Ced23Ric> I don't get anything done.
19:23
<+MittenNinja>
So, i have avocado, oatmeal, and honey all over my face
19:23
< afny>
that sounds delicious
19:23
< afny>
don't take offense, but I want to lick it off.
19:23
<+MittenNinja>
wait like 10 minutes
19:24
<+MittenNinja>
then you can
19:24
< afny>
but it'll be all...crusty...
19:24
< afny>
I don't want it anymore!
19:24
<~Noah>
I think someone's getting a facial
19:24
<~Noah>
The PC kind
19:24
<+MittenNinja>
yeah
19:24
<+MittenNinja>
pretty much
19:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
19:27
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm getting 2.3k / month. That's like ... 3k US?
19:27 * Ced23Ric 's gonna go for 2.5k after probation.
19:27
<@Ced23Ric>
2.9k US.
19:32
< afny>
well I've got three companies diced for a 4/4/5 skirmish
19:32
< afny>
a table full of bricks sorted for terrain
19:33
< afny>
ideas for six stations
19:33
< afny>
did you see this, Ced?
19:33
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7440466792/
19:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Not feeling the legs.
19:33
< afny>
the LEGS or the FEET
19:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Guns on tan/brown are good.
19:33
< afny>
the feet are supposed to have taps instead of Ts
19:34
<@Ced23Ric>
SSRs are good.
19:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Not feeling the modded Chub.
19:34
< afny>
it's an ST-05
19:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Feet/ankles poopy.
19:34
< afny>
more or less stock if I remember correctly
19:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Legs okay above hips.
19:35
< afny>
which legs
19:35
< afny>
oh
19:35
< afny>
for the 3?
19:35
< afny>
yeah, it's just the t pieces
19:35
< afny>
it looks much better with taps
19:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Guns on the two right ones poopy.
19:35
< afny>
too big?
19:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Too bland.
19:35
< afny>
oh
19:35
< afny>
well :\
19:35
< afny>
I think they're too long if anything
19:35
< afny>
the gatlings anyway
19:35
< afny>
these guys aren't flashy
19:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Honestly, this is way below your abilities.
19:36
<@Ced23Ric>
I give you harsh criticism.
19:36
<@Ced23Ric>
YOU WILL NOT LIKE ME BECAUSE I AM HARD. I AM HARD BUT I AM FAIR.
19:37
< afny>
well I agree with you about the ankles
19:37
< afny>
but not the guns
19:37
< afny>
I dunno it's hard to filter criticism from you because a lot of the times its spot on
19:37
< afny>
but a lot of the time it's just because we have different influences/appreciate different aesthetics
19:37
< afny>
IE I like understatement and you like overstatement
19:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Alright, the problem is that you have a semi-decent torso. It could use more "class", but it's alright.
19:38
<@Ced23Ric>
The PPC-like cannons on tan/brown make it work.
19:38
<@Ced23Ric>
I'd get rid of the driod bodies, but ...
19:38
<@Ced23Ric>
So he works pelvis up.
19:38
<@Ced23Ric>
He has a shape and a clear class. Shadow Cat-y.
19:38
< afny>
I dunno, I stole those droid bodies from Soren
19:38
< afny>
his guns had more tan so it made a little more sense
19:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Now the legs go down and get "thin".
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19:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Not too thin, but thinner.
19:39
<@Ced23Ric>
But then his feet come and I cannot believe the 'frame anymore.
19:39
< afny>
http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/it55312,1248278213,metal-gear-solid-4-gekko.jpg
19:39
< afny>
more or less what I was going for with the feet
19:39
< afny>
a little tess tentaclely
19:39
<@Ced23Ric>
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/349/8/c/battletech__shadow_cat_ii_by_mech a_master-d34x8km.jpg <-- Look here instead.
19:39
< afny>
but I hate battletech designs
19:39
< afny>
:|
19:40
<@Ced23Ric>
LOOK.
19:40
<@Ced23Ric>
THERE.
19:40
< afny>
don't like it
19:40
<@Ced23Ric>
What. D:
19:40
< afny>
if I was going to go for bigger feet I would've taken the ones from Soren
19:40
<@Ced23Ric>
That thing is sleek as fuck.
19:40
< afny>
with the axleholders
19:40
< afny>
yeah, but sleek isn't what I'm going for
19:40
< afny>
look at that Kokima mech
19:40
<@Ced23Ric>
That thing looks like balls.
19:40
<~Noah>
I like them, it's nostalgic
19:40
< afny>
yeah, but I don't have any nostalgia for battletech
19:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Alright.
19:41
<~Noah>
Neither do I, but I just like the look
19:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Lemme scrounge my image repository.
19:41
< afny>
I like one battletech mech
19:42
< afny>
the uhhh
19:42
< afny>
I don't even know what it's called
19:42
< afny>
well, I like some of the mechs that battletech stole from anime
19:42
< afny>
but as far as "iconic" battletech mechs
19:43
< afny>
I can't find it
19:43
< afny>
it's got like a triangle head
19:43
< afny>
it's smaller
19:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Describe it.
19:45
< afny>
that was literally the extent of my mental image for
19:45
< afny>
+it
19:45
< afny>
that's my problem with battletech mechs :\
19:46
< afny>
with the exception of the madcat which I think is ugly as fuck
19:46
< afny>
I can't really picture any of them clearly
19:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Small Mech, triangle head.
19:47
<@Ced23Ric>
Arms?
19:48
< afny>
no
19:48
< afny>
but it's not a zentradi battlepod either
19:49
< afny>
yeah, I switched the feet back to taps
19:49
< afny>
had to kill a few guns
19:49
< afny>
they look much better now
19:53
<@Ced23Ric>
http://mecha-master.deviantart.com/art/Battletech-Firefly-171408776?q=gallery%3A mecha-master%2F9755875&qo=77
19:53
<@Ced23Ric>
This guy's cool.
19:55
< afny>
it's the Raven/Corvus
19:55
< afny>
that's what I was thinking of
19:56
<@Ced23Ric>
Ah, gotcha.
19:56
<@Ced23Ric>
Light scout mech.
19:58
< afny>
I just love the ridiculous cockpit
19:58
< afny>
anyway, legs
19:58
< afny>
I wanted something that looked like those real world robots that have mesh or rubber casings around the bits
19:58
< afny>
instead of armor
19:58
<@Ced23Ric>
I probably don't like it when you go thin.
19:59
<@Ced23Ric>
I am always thinking: "How's that gonna hold 2/3 tons?"
19:59
<@Ced23Ric>
I mean, your legs are less than a foot wide.
20:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Moving along, those three have a much larger footprint than a Superchub.
20:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Yet, their legs are a third the width.
20:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Does not compute.
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20:02
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya FF.
20:03
< afny>
yeah, I mean
20:03
< afny>
the legs definitely ARE skinny
20:03
< afny>
about the same width as a thin person at 7p scale, I'd say
20:04
< afny>
I mean, you sort of have to squint to make that assessment
20:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah.
20:05
<@Ced23Ric>
I don't.
20:05
<@Ced23Ric>
I see it right away.
20:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Your legs, for a 4 meter tall 'frame, are ~25cm wide.
20:05
<+FerrelFerret>
Hey
20:07
< afny>
they're no thinner than a conscript's legs at the ankle
20:07
< afny>
and the thinner part in the shin and calf is really only exposed as thin in movement. I mean, if it was resting or firing, the legs would be pretty compressed
20:13
<@Ced23Ric>
The Conscript is dinky.
20:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Not lithe.
20:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Not lean.
20:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Dinky.
20:15
< afny>
yeah, but it still tapers in the feet
20:15
< afny>
and these are only a brick taler than a commissar
20:15
< afny>
a brick and a plate, maybe
20:19
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm sorry, but I cannot believe the 'frame to work.
20:22
< afny>
do you feel that way about ALL the frames that use those legs?
20:22
< afny>
I mean, the aphrodite uses practically the exact same legs
20:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Pretty close.
20:22
<@Ced23Ric>
1p legs are ... well.
20:23
< afny>
with an exposed stud I view them more like 2p
20:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Wha t.
20:23
<@Ced23Ric>
What.
20:23
< afny>
like, a plate and a stud
20:23
< afny>
is almost the same width as a plate+tile
20:23
<@Ced23Ric>
That's 1p.
20:24
< afny>
as a unit of measure, sure
20:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Period.
20:24
< afny>
but at this scale one plate with one exposed stud in an armature
20:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Is 1p.
20:24
< afny>
can pretty easily represent, VISUALLY, a '2p' width.
20:24
<@Ced23Ric>
If you stretch it.
20:24
< afny>
because the 1p section only fills a small visual portion
20:24
< afny>
and the section it fills has the added "weight" of an exposed stud
20:24
< afny>
it "looks", and can represent
20:24
<@Ced23Ric>
I get it.
20:25
< afny>
a 2p width
20:25
< afny>
ish.
20:25
<@Ced23Ric>
I just don't believe it.
20:25
<@Ced23Ric>
Your guns are 3 times as wide.
20:25
< afny>
2.4
20:25
<@Ced23Ric>
Details.
20:26
<@Ced23Ric>
I cannot stop you.
20:26
<@Ced23Ric>
It's just doesn't seem physically sound.
20:27
< afny>
okay, here's a question
20:27
< afny>
do you think that at ANY scale
20:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Your justifications are just that - they are "Well, you could say...", not "But it would be like this IRL."
20:27
< afny>
or PARTICULARLY 7p scale
20:28
< afny>
if I had 16 tile clips
20:28
< afny>
I could easily bulk up the legs near the hip and the back of the knee
20:28
< afny>
that, combined with the tap (instead of the T piece)
20:28
< afny>
make it looks pretty solid
20:28
< afny>
I just don't have the clips
20:30
<@Ced23Ric>
What's the qestion?
20:30
< afny>
but yeah, is your problem a SCALE issue, or just visually?
20:30
< afny>
is it like, "well those legs couldn't be more than three feet wide"
20:30
<@Ced23Ric>
"one foot"
20:30
< afny>
or is it "they look too thin in proportion at any scale"
20:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Both columns.
20:30
< afny>
they could easily be the width of a thin person
20:30
< afny>
at 7p scale
20:30
<@Ced23Ric>
.... 0.9 feet?
20:31
< afny>
a person isn't the exact dimensions of two bricks and a stud.
20:31
< afny>
they're thinner than that
20:31
< afny>
that width makes up their HITBOX, if you will
20:31
< afny>
but not their volume
20:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Are you really telling me that 0.9 feet are holding up 2 - 4 tons?
20:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Even worse, that that's ARMORED legs?
20:32
< afny>
again, it's more than .9 feet
20:32
< afny>
and the legs aren't armored
20:32
< afny>
that's the point.
20:32
<@Ced23Ric>
No, it's not. I am not going by width.
20:33
<@Ced23Ric>
I am going by height.
20:33
< afny>
well you're not considering the stud
20:33
<@Ced23Ric>
You are not considering the hollow.
20:33
< afny>
I don't consider it
20:33
< afny>
it doesn't alter the outline
20:34 * Ced23Ric sighs.
20:34
<@Ced23Ric>
You won't budge because you like your aesthetic. I won't budge because I defy the sense and scale in it.
20:35
<@Ced23Ric>
You apply double standards in your defense and I insist on my scale argument next to my personal visual preference.
20:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Might aswell agree to disagree.
20:37
< afny>
I did take your advice though, they're a LITTLE bulkier now
20:37
< afny>
I'll post pics when I set up the box to take some photos of terrain
20:37
< afny>
also; I dropped an old grey tile clip (one of two) into an exposed bin
20:37
< afny>
I will NEVER FIND IT
20:37
< afny>
and it was vital.
20:37
< afny>
VITAL.
20:39
< afny>
Also, I think the only reason you didn't complain about the 1p manipulator arm on one of them is that it's obscured in the picture
20:39
< afny>
but it's only carrying a flare gun
20:46 * Ced23Ric sighs.
20:48
< afny>
:D
20:48
< afny>
you know what I'm making right now?
20:48
< afny>
...chest high walls.
20:49
<@Ced23Ric>
You would.
20:49
< afny>
they aren't really WALLS
20:49
<@Ced23Ric>
My problem, Kev, is ... I know are good at building.
20:49
<@Ced23Ric>
But sometimes you seem to drop the ball and be blind to it.
20:50
<@Ced23Ric>
And for some reason, you are so set ... that you continously refuse to see it.
20:50
< afny>
well I do value criticism for that reason, I think most people have a hard time judging their own work in any medium until they are EXTREMELY experienced
20:50
< afny>
that said, I do like spindly legs and smaller guns :P
20:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Well.
20:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Within reason, sure.
20:53
<@Ced23Ric>
But within reason, MY legs aren't even thick.
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20:55
< wintermute>
hello?
20:55
< afny>
Hello!
20:55
< wintermute>
i take it this is a mobile frame zero irc?
20:55
< afny>
@Ced, I dunno, dude, I think they're on the thicker side
20:55
< afny>
this IS that.
20:55
< afny>
I mean, most of the time.
20:55
< wintermute>
i see
20:55
< wintermute>
right on
20:55
< wintermute>
i got referred here cuz apparently somebody linked to my prometheus
20:56
< afny>
it's possible!
20:56
< afny>
@Ced: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Photo%20on%202012-06-25%20at%2015.54.jpg
20:56
< afny>
kind of hard to see
20:57
< afny>
the only thing they really need is a tile on the inside of those plate clips at the ankles
20:57
< wintermute>
is that for the challenge?
20:57
< afny>
nah, there's taps in the ankles
20:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Kevin ... I'll be blunt.
20:57
<@Ced23Ric>
That looks like crap.
20:57
< wintermute>
ahahaha
20:57
< afny>
what, the legs?
20:57
<@Ced23Ric>
Yes.
20:57
< afny>
or the photo
20:58
< afny>
I mean, the photo is obviously shit.
20:58
< wintermute>
this is the prometheus i built: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wintermute2600/7437325086/in/photostream
20:58
<@Ced23Ric>
They look like an elephant raped them up the bum.
20:58
< afny>
I'll take a better picture with the lightbox later :\
20:58
< afny>
I mean, you didn't like them in the first place, so
20:58
< afny>
but they ARE thicker.
20:58
<@Ced23Ric>
Doesn't change the o shaped legs.
20:58
<@Ced23Ric>
Sure.
20:58
<@Ced23Ric>
But now with that angle, I see the entire drama.
20:58
<@Ced23Ric>
Honestly, you can do way better.
20:59
< wintermute>
i'm also the guy who built these (which is probably more of interest to yall) http://www.flickr.com/photos/wintermute2600/7213758492/in/set-72157629945918133
20:59
<@Ced23Ric>
You got wrapped up in those zizy 1p legs and now you're forcing them.
20:59
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya WM! :)
20:59
< afny>
those legs aren't 1p anywhere anymore
20:59
<@Ced23Ric>
We do remember. The entire underwater scene was great!
20:59
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev: You're still on that "principle".
20:59
<@Ced23Ric>
You are getting this flak because I know you can do better.
21:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Don't take offense to it.
21:00
< afny>
I'd never take offense
21:00
< afny>
this is CREATIVE SPACE
21:00
< afny>
open criticism is much better than silence
21:00
< afny>
but still I'm not going to rebuild them just yet
21:00
< wintermute>
i would also suggest a more coherent color scheme
21:00
<@Ced23Ric>
wintermute: I like that Prometheus. Good adaption.
21:00
< afny>
well the color is a parts limitation, mostly
21:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, your call, Kev.
21:01
< wintermute>
grays and blacks make for nice mechanical details but other colors make for nice unit customization
21:01
< afny>
I had very few of most of the bricks, so I just went for a desert/urban camo
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
You can do better.
21:01
< afny>
if you saw the other frames in this demo campaign
21:01
<@Ced23Ric>
You're just not trying.
21:01
< afny>
you'd know that I need a little tan and black
21:01
< afny>
the other companies are brightly colored
21:01
< afny>
hm
21:01
< wintermute>
also that center guy is just clammoring for something on the chest area
21:01
< afny>
well this photo is very unflattering to the leg angle
21:01
< afny>
I mean, when I look at it in my hand
21:02
< afny>
the organic angles of the leg LOOK really good to me
21:02
< afny>
chest area?
21:02
< afny>
Here, wintermute
21:02
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7440466792/
21:02
< wintermute>
the inverse of the studs on the back of the chair piece
21:02
< afny>
it's not really a chest, more of a head
21:03
< wintermute>
ah yeah
21:03
< afny>
that's got better lighting, that shitty webcam pic was to show Ced some changes I made in the legs
21:03
< wintermute>
the squareness of the chair just doesn't give with the rest of the organic limbs for me
21:03
< wintermute>
also added you as a contact on the ol flickr
21:03
< afny>
I had this in mind when I was building: http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/it55312,1248278213,metal-gear-solid-4-gekko.jpg
21:03
< afny>
so that's sort of intentional
21:04
< wintermute>
they do look much better in that photo
21:04
< afny>
yeah, those webcam photos are never useful for anything
21:04
< afny>
my table is covered with terrain right now so I can't take a lightbox photo
21:04
< wintermute>
also makes more since that they're FC
21:04
< wintermute>
so the frames don't have to be consistent
21:04
< afny>
they're hodgepodge for sure
21:05
< wintermute>
but i'd at least throw a common badge of non gray/black/white on there for unit cohesiion
21:05
< afny>
well the SSR does that
21:05
< afny>
but maybe that's not enough
21:05
<@Ced23Ric>
I can, AT LEAST, say that I do not like them at all.
21:05
<@Ced23Ric>
They strike no chord with me.
21:05
<@Ced23Ric>
Except for the fat rails on the tan/brown one.
21:05
< afny>
I thought about just doing three hi-legs
21:06
<@Ced23Ric>
The ST05 looks like he's hungry. Damn skinny.
21:06
< afny>
the intent was to make a 3-4 frame company that had a distinctly different outline from the other two demo companies
21:06
<@Ced23Ric>
And the other three just fail my sense of taste back to back.
21:06
< afny>
well when I'm done with the terrain I'll try out some beefier feet
21:07
< wintermute>
i'm jealous of your background
21:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh. His blue paper? :D
21:07
< afny>
it's just a 3 dollar sheet of blue paper
21:07
< wintermute>
the photography/presentation thing is always hit on my end
21:07
< wintermute>
yeah - i use whatever's laying around the house without a lightbox
21:07
< afny>
you take pictures of big MOCs and big groups of small builds, though
21:07
< wintermute>
so there you go
21:07
< afny>
that stuff would never fit in my tiny lightbox
21:07
<@Ced23Ric>
WM: I used my GM screen for a post-apolcalyptic game for some of my shots. :D
21:08
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7387196046/in/photostream
21:08
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7387213030/in/photostream
21:09
<@Ced23Ric>
Or just plain daylight with a white bg on a white sheet of paper.
21:09
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7421547644/in/photostream
21:09
< wintermute>
i heart stickers so bad
21:10
<@Ced23Ric>
:D
21:10
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7421545588/in/photostream/
21:10
< wintermute>
it's like the perfect finishing touch to a build for me
21:10
<@Ced23Ric>
I use a few of them: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79277138@N08/7387187030/in/photostream/
21:10
< wintermute>
stuff is badass cedric
21:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Thankies!
21:11
< wintermute>
pink MF0 is awesome
21:12
< afny>
yeah, wish I had more pink bits
21:12
< wintermute>
friends is a nice current source
21:12
< wintermute>
yet i own NONE
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
KEVIN.
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fredoichi/7250006284/in/faves-wintermute2600/
21:13
<@Ced23Ric>
DOSE HANN'S.
21:13
< afny>
umg
21:13
< afny>
that's such a good idea.
21:13
< afny>
that's SUCH a good idea
21:13
< afny>
I need to do that right now
21:13
< wintermute>
yeah fredo is a boss
21:14
< afny>
man, ced
21:14
< afny>
messing with leg parts
21:14
< afny>
the problem making a digitigrade biped is that you either get TOO thick right away
21:14
< afny>
or too thin
21:14
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/2465736237/in/photostream
21:15
< afny>
so like, these are the other end
21:15
< afny>
I could've just copied these
21:15
< afny>
but they're so much more industrial
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
So greebly.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
So nice.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
So sensical.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
The thighs alone.
21:15
<@Ced23Ric>
There's hydraulics, joints, gears!
21:16
< afny>
I don't have either of the parts that make it cool
21:16
< afny>
the 2x2 technic holders or whatever those awesome bumpers are
21:16
<~Noah>
McMartin: You around?
21:16
< afny>
the other thing is, I don't THINK it has articulation in the knees
21:16
< afny>
although it could be a shuttle arm joint
21:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Turntable tops.
21:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Just take the grey part of a turntable and you got the grey 2x2 round.
21:18
<@Ced23Ric>
And the 2x2 /w pin hole is an technic axle part. Once and twice.
21:18
< afny>
I know what those are
21:18
< afny>
just don't have em
21:20
< wintermute>
aite boys
21:20
< wintermute>
catch ya laters
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21:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Kk,.
21:22
<@Ced23Ric>
I just had an idea on the balcony.
21:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Lemme try.
21:22
<@Ced23Ric>
You have the parts, too.
21:23
< afny>
enough for three sets?
21:24
< afny>
man, I'm posing these guys now
21:24
< afny>
they're soo articulate
21:31
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trifoot_1.png
21:31
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trifoot_2.png
21:31
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trifoot_3.png
21:32
<@Ced23Ric>
3 sizes.
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21:33
< DeathZero>
Allo
21:33
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya Dizzee.
21:33
< DeathZero>
Sup Mr Heretic
21:33
< DeathZero>
:D
21:35
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh. :D
21:39
< DeathZero>
Hows it goin today
21:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Beefin' it out with Kevin. :D
21:40
< DeathZero>
sweet
21:40
<@Ced23Ric>
He has super thin legs on some 'frames.
21:40
<@Ced23Ric>
We have a disagreement on aesthetics.
21:41
< afny>
Ced, that's not a bad design
21:41
< afny>
but it's also gigantic
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Hte last isn't.
21:41
< afny>
not at all the lithe runner's foot I'm going for
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
*the
21:41
< afny>
all three of them are huge
21:41
< afny>
the profile of a 2x2 brick
21:41
<@Ced23Ric>
The first one is.
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Probably out of scale, too.
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Dizzee:
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
[22:31:41] <@Ced23Ric> http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trifoot_1.png
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
[22:31:43] <@Ced23Ric> http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trifoot_2.png
21:42
<@Ced23Ric>
[22:31:45] <@Ced23Ric> http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trifoot_3.png
21:42
<@McMartin>
Noah: Only for a bit, eating lunch. What's up?
21:42
< DeathZero>
interesting feet.
21:43
< DeathZero>
I like the first one.
21:43
<~Noah>
McMartin: PM
21:43
< afny>
I like all of 'em
21:43
< afny>
but they're just not a solution to this particular problem
21:43
< DeathZero>
very large though.
21:44
< afny>
see
21:44
< DeathZero>
I'd like to see em attatched to mechs.
21:45
< afny>
what the balls dropbox
21:45
< afny>
upload
21:46
< afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/hammerheads2.jpg
21:46
< DeathZero>
are those what Ced's saying they should go on?
21:47
<@Ced23Ric>
I don't like the legs.
21:48
<@Ced23Ric>
They are uberthin.
21:48
< DeathZero>
they do look like a standard human could knock the legs out with a baseball bat.
21:49
< afny>
I need someone who has non-WH4K influences to give me a second opinion
21:49
< afny>
the way the clip plates look on the tan one make it bad, I need black clip plates there
21:49
< afny>
also, going to the store for a bit
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21:50
< DeathZero>
I like the legs from the clip part up. its the ankle/foot area that looks flimsy.
21:50
< DeathZero>
later afny
21:50
<@Ced23Ric>
... what.
21:50 * Ced23Ric feels discriminated.
21:51
< DeathZero>
lol. apparently 40k makes us biased with its bulkyness.
21:51
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/trilegs.png
21:51
<@Ced23Ric>
I have no idea what I'm doing.
21:52
< DeathZero>
I like.
21:52
<@Ced23Ric>
I have no idea where I am going.
21:52
< DeathZero>
the legs remind me of pistons.
21:52
<@Ced23Ric>
*save & close*
21:52
< DeathZero>
o_O you could use part of that to make like....piston arms.
21:53
<@Ced23Ric>
I could.
21:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Alternatively, I could go to bed. :D
21:53
< DeathZero>
like ol boy from transformers g1
21:53
< DeathZero>
that hopped out of soundwave's chest.
21:53
< DeathZero>
:P
21:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
21:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhm.
21:53
< DeathZero>
sleep is for the weak!
21:53
< DeathZero>
o_o
21:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Truth.
21:54
< DeathZero>
If 60's movies have taught us anything, it's that communists are bad, and communists in space are even worse. Ergo, Communists, in space, with lazers, must make them the anti-christ baby seal clubbing orphan murderers of 40k. - Goq Gar on Tau.
21:54
< DeathZero>
>_>
21:55
<@Ced23Ric>
... less true.
21:55
< DeathZero>
....
21:55
< DeathZero>
There is only one appropriate response for that kind of thing round here...1-800-BURN-THE-WITCH
21:56
< DeathZero>
ok, I'm done I won't do any more 40k quotes.
21:57
< DeathZero>
I've got a whole file of them. o_o
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22:05
< DeathZero>
Hi mitten
22:11
< DeathZero>
later all. o7
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22:16
<+MittenNinja>
All prepped for my game this evening.
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