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| 14:13 | < abudhabi__> | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326181 |
| 14:14 | < abudhabi__> | >Open Bug 326181 Opened 17 years ago Updated 3 years ago |
| 14:29 | <@TheWatcher> | ... fun. |
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| 16:00 | < abudhabi__> | I'm having a hell of a time trying to send an email from command line. |
| 16:01 | < abudhabi__> | Anonymous mail from my machine obviously won't get accepted anywhere, because of the general state of email. |
| 16:02 | < abudhabi__> | I kind of expected using one of my legitimate accounts via commandline smtp to be easier, though. |
| 16:02 | < abudhabi__> | Is there some obvious solution "I just want to send an email from command line sometimes"? |
| 16:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | Use something like `msmtp`, configure it to relay through your ISP's authenticated mail server? |
| 16:08 | < abudhabi__> | ISP's? |
| 16:08 | <@TheWatcher> | mailx will let you set the SMTP server, including auth, in ~/.mailrc |
| 16:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | Internet Service Provider. At least here, most ISPs have a mail server that their customers can use to send outbound mail even if it's not from an adress the ISP controls. |
| 16:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | If you want to send from your gmail address or something you may need to config msmtp/mailx/etc to talk to smtp.google.com or something |
| 16:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | But the common thread is "install a command line smtp client and configure your outbound SMTP server in its rc file" |
| 16:14 | < abudhabi__> | I'll take a look. |
| 16:39 | < jeroud> | Heya. Been a while. |
| 16:40 | < jeroud> | I'm doing adventofcode.com in PHP this year, mostly to see if it's still as awful as I remember. |
| 16:40 | < jeroud> | So far it isn't. :-D |
| 16:56 | <~Vornicus> | I worked in php and while it sucked it was not *quite* as bad as I thought... until I discovered what the fuck it was doing with function names |
| 17:04 | < jeroud> | If you use the right tools, it's possible to write reasonably clean, safe code. |
| 17:05 | < jeroud> | Anyway, #aocspoilers for chatting about solutions and such. |
| 17:35 | <@macdjord> | jeroud: Using the right tools, you can cleanly and safely handle many forms of excrement, yes~ |
| 17:51 | <~Vornicus> | (PHP has barewords: if you just write a thing like `cheese` that's equivalent to `"cheese"`. function calls look like `cakeify()`. These two facts together suggest a third, very important, terrifying fact) |
| 18:05 | < jeroud> | The barewords thing is deprecated. May even be illegal from 8.0. |
| 18:05 | <~Vornicus> | man |
| 18:09 | < jeroud> | You still pass strings as callables for builtin functions, though. |
| 18:10 | < jeroud> | And you can put a class name in a string variable and instantiate it. |
| 18:11 | < jeroud> | I do that for my AoC stuff. |
| 18:12 | <~Vornicus> | that's the terrifying part |
| 18:21 | < jeroud> | It's no worse than using a reflection API, really. |
| 18:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm doing it in Factor, and enjoying it quite a lot, although it definitely has some warts (some of which look like they're going be addressed, at least) |
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| 20:37 | <@macdjord> | jeroud, Vornicus: Searching for and calling a function or class by name-as-a-string is absolutely a thing every self-respecting interpreted language should support. Doing so /implicitly/ is terrifying. |
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