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| 18:12 | < abudhabi__> | Is there a more user-hostile connector than DVI? |
| 18:14 | < abudhabi__> | I made extra sure to know which of the five subtypes to get. I even drew it. |
| 18:14 | < abudhabi__> | I still got the wrong kind. |
| 18:15 | < abudhabi__> | What I need is male DVI-D Dual Link, but what I got was male DVI-I Dual Link. |
| 18:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | DVI-I should still work, since it's a superset of DVI-D -- DVI-D is just DVI-I with the analog pins missing |
| 18:19 | < abudhabi__> | The female connector on the monitor lacks the extra holes the male one I have has. |
| 18:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh wait, damn, except a female DVI-D won't have receptacles for those pins, so -- yeah |
| 18:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | I have no idea why they did it that way |
| 18:38 | < abudhabi__> | Why did they design all these variants to begin with? |
| 18:42 | < Emmy> | DVI is very much a stop-gap solution, i think |
| 18:43 | < Emmy> | Or a transition type product. |
| 18:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | DVI-D is "real" DVI, DVI-I exists for circumstances where you want to be able to support both DVI and VGA monitors on a single port. |
| 18:57 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm not sure why DVI-A exists, or why it's designed so you can't plug a DVI-I cable into DVI-D ports -- maybe to remove the failure mode where you plug a DVI-I cable into a DVI-D port, attach a DVI->VGA passive adapter to the other end, and then nothing works? |
| 18:59 | < abudhabi__> | My monitor has VGA and DVI-D on separate ports. And regrettably no HDMI or DP. |
| 19:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | By "on the same port" I mean on the video card, where space is a lot more constrained |
| 19:16 | < abudhabi__> | I see. |
| 19:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | A DVI-I output port lets you drive a DVI-D (over a D or I cable) or VGA (via a DVI-I to VGA passive adapter which costs like $2) monitor while using up only a single DVI port's worth of space on the card. |
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| 19:29 | < abudhabi__> | How constrained could it have been? My GPU has all of VGA, DVI and HDMI on it. |
| 19:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | And merging the VGA and DVI ports would have given them room for DP or a second HDMI output! |
| 19:34 | < abudhabi__> | I suppose. |
| 19:34 | < abudhabi__> | It's fairly amazing that VGA is still alive. |
| 19:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | I don't think I have any monitors left that speak VGA, but IIRC it's still a required part of the motherboard backpanel. |
| 19:39 | < abudhabi__> | All of mine have it, but I shop in the "one generation ago, used" bin for 1/10th hardware price. 😉 |
| 19:43 | <&ToxicFrog> | I think the last monitor I purchased that had a VGA port was like 10+ years ago |
| 19:48 | < abudhabi__> | I have https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/9f5ea72 which according to this was announced in 2015. |
| 20:23 | < Emmy> | afaik VGA is still around in (older) beamers and corporate hardware and such, and that's why it still needs supporting in that sector |
| 20:23 | < Emmy> | though that info might be outdated as well |
| 21:43 | <@gnolam> | > beamers |
| 21:43 | <@gnolam> | Ah, Dutch too? |
| 21:43 | < Emmy> | ...ah right |
| 21:44 | < Emmy> | i keep forgetting that's not an actual english word |
| 21:44 | < Emmy> | yeah, i'm dutch |
| 21:44 | < Emmy> | why so 'too'? |
| 21:49 | <@gnolam> | It threw me for a loop when I first started having regular business meetings with Germans. :) |
| 21:51 | < Emmy> | oh, the germans do it too? |
| 21:52 | < Emmy> | So strange, the word is taken from english - yet it's not used in english. XD |
| 21:55 | <@TheWatcher> | What's the translation in this case? |
| 22:00 | < abudhabi__> | Projectors? |
| 22:01 | <@TheWatcher> | That'd make sense. |
| 22:06 | < Alek> | not all new motherboards have VGA anymore. |
| 22:06 | < Alek> | the new PC dad just bought only has HDMI. |
| 22:06 | <@ErikMesoy> | Teachers at the Norwegian school I went to had for some reason borrowed "overhead" as the name (overhead projector, presumably), and then conjugated this word with Norwegian grammar rules like "overheaden". |
| 22:07 | < Alek> | and the video card that came with it has 1 HDMI 3 DP. |
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