| --- Log opened Mon Sep 05 00:00:43 2022 |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | Oh man, my new retrocoding books have arrived |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | From the far distant past of 2016 |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | so maybe not actually retrocoding |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | But it has stuff on DVD in the back, so I need to go dig out my external optical drive |
| 00:59 | <&McMartin> | That counts as retro right |
| 01:03 | < jessifae_> | kinda |
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| 01:35 | <&McMartin> | On consideration: yeah, it does. It's a book on DX11 and DX12, so that's "modern", but the actual code samples on the disk don't compile anymore. |
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| 07:18 | < jessifae> | huh |
| 07:18 | < jessifae> | that's interesting |
| 07:40 | <&McMartin> | It appears to be because the sample code is linking against XNA Math and D3DX dlls, and those are no longer part of the Windows SDK -- those are both now managed as header-only template libraries if you're using them at all. |
| 07:40 | <&McMartin> | (Presumably because the number of D3DX dlls that had to be simultaneously installed in your system directory was getting unwieldy, because MS has re-destroyed and re-created DLL Hell at least five times since I've started paying attention.) |
| 09:46 | <@TheWatcher> | ... only 5?~ |
| 09:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, you said 'at least' so |
| 09:47 | <@TheWatcher> | Feels like 50~ |
| 10:02 | <&McMartin> | I'm treating XNA and D3DX as the same "re-destroyed", after the standalone DX SDKs were the "re-created", with both ignoring the whole WinSxS thing that is still used for most system libs |
| 10:02 | <&McMartin> | Setting up the SDKs so you ship stuff statically is a huge improvement though! |
| 10:02 | <&McMartin> | ... even if C++ kind of mandates it if you want it to make remotely decent code |
| 10:42 | < jessifae> | yeah I thought XNA was dead |
| 10:42 | < jessifae> | which is a shame, Hargreaves is a good API designer |
| 10:48 | <&McMartin> | It is indeed dead, but these books are old enough that it wasn't dead at the time, so... yeah, I guess that makes them retro or at least legacy. It'll still be useful to me; stuff like DXGI is new to me despite being as old as Win7... and maybe Vista. |
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| 22:50 | <@gnolam> | https://github.com/Sanakan8472/copy-dialog-lunar-lander |
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| 23:01 | < Emmy> | gnolam, that's bloody fucking brilliant. |
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| 23:39 | <&McMartin> | I love it |
| --- Log closed Tue Sep 06 00:00:44 2022 |