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| 09:22 | < Alek> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419288684014075904/1001403098687864862/unknown.png |
| 09:33 | <@ErikMesoy> | Is photoshopped. |
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| 18:55 | <@gnolam> | Fits in here too, I guess: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396357588880588804/1001520994403483818/P_20220726_115022_1.jpg |
| 18:55 | <@gnolam> | Government agencies: "Avoid clicking unknown links, because they might be security risks!" |
| 18:55 | <@gnolam> | The same government agencies: "Here, scan this QR code that could lead bloody /anywhere/!" |
| 18:58 | <@ErikMesoy> | I am content with my dumbphone that cannot read QR codes, so forgive my ignorance: is there not yet some kind of standard safety measure wherein the smartphone asks "User, do you want to go to this page" after translating but before executing the QR code? |
| 19:00 | <@gnolam> | Depends on the app. |
| 19:02 | <~Vornicus> | I still can't figure out how people ended up on qr codes. like... they're more a pain in the ass than to just type in the domain |
| 19:02 | <~Vornicus> | by like ...30 seconds |
| 19:03 | <&McMartin> | That wasn't what they were originally for, IIRC |
| 19:03 | <&McMartin> | Though I forget whta they *were* for, vaguely recall something about industrial machinery and no time to rabbithole |
| 19:04 | <@ErikMesoy> | Fewer individual motions required. |
| 19:07 | <~Vornicus> | gotta go "oh that's a qr code, hang on, let me get out my phone, close up the thingy, find the dedicated qr reader app that I don't have on my home screens because I use it once a year, at most, wait for it to show me the logo and boot up and spin up the camera and then spend like ten seconds moving the camera around until it decides it can read the damn thing, wait while it thinks about it, give me the URL, answer the question of what I |
| 19:07 | <~Vornicus> | want to do with it. While standing up on a moving bus |
| 19:13 | <~Vornicus> | as opposed to "oh, cheese.com/gouda, cool, I can remember that long enough to look it up when I've sat down" |
| 19:15 | <@gnolam> | ErikMesoy: Also, the domain name in the link is not a domain for any of the organizations responsible, so even if people take the time to check out the URL the campaign is still doing the exact opposite of what it's trying to do: teaching people that as long as the link they receive carries an official logo, the site it leads to must be legitimate. |
| 19:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: on modern Android phones it's "double-tap power button to bring up camera, aim at qr code, URL pops up at the bottom of the screen" |
| 19:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | And a lot of URLs are machine-generated shorteners and stuff which are completely impossible to remember |
| 19:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | Personally I'd rather do that than attempt to manually transcribe a URL into the phone with the leeging touchscreen keyboard |
| 19:34 | <@ErikMesoy> | Remember when URLs could be like cheese.com/gouda rather than "secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.226/c4b.2cd.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads" |
| 20:20 | < Alek> | SOME phones' default photo apps can read QR codes (and go to links). but in my experience, they usually ASK if you want to go to the link. |
| 20:20 | < Alek> | while SOME phones don't have the QR reading functionality in their photo apps. |
| 20:21 | < Alek> | new phones, at that. |
| 20:34 | | Kindamoody|afk is now known as Kindamoody |
| 21:43 | <@macdjord> | Vornicus: IME, a QR code is faster than manual entry for anything longer than about 20 characters, especially if I'm working 1-handed. Its also less error prone. |
| 21:51 | <@macdjord> | Alek: Re: 10 years Carbon experience: "I have been working with Carbon since its release" |
| 21:59 | < Mahal> | Vornicus: why do people use barcodes? you could just *type* the stock numbers, gosh |
| 21:59 | <~Vornicus> | for a barcode, I have a thing that works in under a second |
| 22:00 | <~Vornicus> | for a qr code, on the side of a random truck? Nope! |
| 22:00 | < Mahal> | I can't read barcodes on my phone though |
| 22:00 | <~Vornicus> | my qr code reader does that too |
| 22:00 | <~Vornicus> | barcodes that is |
| 22:00 | < Mahal> | the qr code reader on my phone just works, it's built into the camera, available even when the phone is locked |
| 22:01 | < Mahal> | so I think it's down to "your phone tech" not just "this dumb tech" |
| 22:01 | < Mahal> | NZ went with QR codes for Covid tracing largely for that reason I think |
| 22:02 | <~Vornicus> | wow, things I absolutely would not want |
| 22:03 | < Mahal> | I mean, it doesn't just magically go "qrcode go!", I do have to swipe to tap the camera or QR code reader, but it's availble from the home screen pre-unlocking |
| 22:03 | < Mahal> | very easy |
| 22:03 | <~Vornicus> | (also double tapping the power button on my phone brings up google assistant) |
| 22:03 | <~Vornicus> | oh. yeah no mine is behind a fingerprint unlock |
| 22:04 | < Mahal> | swipe down from the top, without unlocking, and I get access to these things |
| 22:04 | < Mahal> | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pwSoBMdC/IMG_3639.PNG |
| 22:05 | < Mahal> | You can customise this in iPhone settings, so things are / are not available at users choice, but I have left mine in place. |
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