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| 08:40 | <&McMartin> | New Bumbershoot post, emptying my notebook on a system very few people care about, but which completeness demanded I poke at. https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2022/01/28/touring-the-trs-80s-capabilities/ |
| 09:06 | <~Vorntastic> | Hopper and Mini Invaders, eh |
| 09:51 | <@gnolam> | https://ferd.ca/the-little-printf.html |
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| 14:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | McMartin: "These character sets may be toggled by outputting character code 22." -- does that shift only characters output after the 22, or the entire screen? |
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| 15:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ok, using the tape-out line as a soundcard is extremely cursed and I love it |
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| 17:04 | <&McMartin> | TF: Entire screen. It's changing the character ROM. |
| 17:05 | <&McMartin> | The demo pages I link include a raster hack that displays all 320 characters at once. |
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| 18:08 | <@gnolam> | After a typo where the letter 'l' got inserted into the word "backend", I now want "Backend Death Metal" to be a thing. |
| 18:09 | <&McMartin> | I do hear that too much time in the server rooms gives one a bottomless thirst for destruction |
| 18:33 | <&McMartin> | re: extremely cursed: I don't have any old DOS-era hardware around to check on, but... |
| 18:34 | <&McMartin> | ... when did sound cards/motherboards-with-integrated-sound-chips start distinguishing Speaker Out from Line Out? |
| 19:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. |
| 19:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | The SB16PCI from 1999 has "line out" (headphones, powered speakers, and amps) and "speaker out" (headphones and unpowered speakers) |
| 19:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | The SBPro from 1994 just has "Spk Out". |
| 19:13 | <&McMartin> | Fun. Yeah, there's definitely some back and forth |
| 19:13 | <&McMartin> | Looking at the magazines from the early 1980s it is clear that you did need to attach an amplifier as well as a speaker to your tape-out on the TRS-80, so that was a line-out |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | While the other two machines in the 1977 trinity had an amplified speaker inside the case |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | As did the 1979 Atari 400/800 line, though that _also_ had a proper sound chip whose audio output was mixed into the TV out signal like one would naively expect. |
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