| --- Log opened Sun Oct 03 00:00:18 2021 |
| --- Day changed Sun Oct 03 2021 |
| 00:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | Generally I prefer od, but xxd seems to be as widely installed and has a few features od lacks. |
| 00:00 | <&McMartin> | I find myself actually using objcopy more than one would think reasonable, but that is extremely GNU-toolchain. |
| 00:02 | <&McMartin> | And yeah, I usually use od or hexdump |
| 00:02 | <&McMartin> | hexdump -C does summaries of repeating patterns, which is often actually what I want. |
| 00:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | IIRC od is part of GNU coreutils, while xxd is one of those venerable UNIX tools included in most linux distros by default |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | All the more reason to go with it, imo |
| 00:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | I don't think I've ever used hexdump. |
| 00:04 | <&McMartin> | It's *almost* strictly inferior to od, and like od its default is "wrong", but some of its quirks end up hugely useful when you're tearing apart binaries intended for 8-bit processors. |
| 00:05 | <&McMartin> | But instead of passing a full formatting script like you would with od, the behavior that you basically *always* want out of hexdump is the single argument -C |
| 00:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | 2222222222222 |
| 00:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | With od I'm pretty much always using either -c or -tx1 or both |
| 00:09 | <&[R]> | Use xxd |
| 00:09 | <&[R]> | xxd is from vim IIRC |
| 00:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah, so it is |
| 00:11 | <&[R]> | Probably for similar reasons that nmap provides ncat |
| 00:11 | <&[R]> | Namely the alternatives were complete trash |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | so now we have nc, nc, netcat, ncat, and socat |
| 00:12 | <&[R]> | Not entirely correct |
| 00:13 | <&[R]> | Both netcat's provide nc as a symlink to their netcat binaries |
| 00:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah |
| 00:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | so we have netcat, netcat, ncat, and socat |
| 00:13 | <&[R]> | It's actually: GNU netcat, BSD netcat, socat, ncat |
| 00:14 | | * [R] forgets specfically the issues with netcat, but IIRC it's some super long standing bugs related to semi-advanced usage when listening |
| 00:15 | <&[R]> | Just use ncat to start with and you'll not have to worry about spending many, many hours bashing your head against a bug |
| 00:16 | <&[R]> | Or if you're a java programmer, and thus completely used to excessively verbose things, use socat |
| 00:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | As a rule I'm using it not to receive but to send, typically to send test data when I'm developing a server |
| 00:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | c.f. recent work on hangbrain |
| 00:20 | <&[R]> | Fair enough, personally, I'd rather get in the habit of not using tools I distrust |
| 00:21 | <&[R]> | So no scp, nc, or hexdump |
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| 01:55 | <@celticminstrel> | I can't seem to find a font that encodes the fairy chess symbols. |
| 01:58 | <&McMartin> | (c) 1990-1997 by Juergen Weigert |
| 02:02 | <@celticminstrel> | ? |
| 02:07 | <&McMartin> | xxd's copyright as given in the manpage |
| 02:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah, not as venerable as I thought |
| 03:02 | | * ToxicFrog turns on strict runtime type checking and her program immediately stops working |
| 03:08 | <&McMartin> | Last Patch In 1997 is Pretty Venerable. |
| 03:16 | <&Reiver> | How many security holes since then I wonder |
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| 04:37 | <&McMartin> | For a hex-dumping program? |
| 04:38 | <&McMartin> | That's the kind of program that can be legitimately Finished, imo. |
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| 17:23 | | * Emmy fails |
| 17:24 | < Emmy> | derp |
| 17:24 | < Kizor> | story of my life |
| 17:25 | < Kizor> | You ok-ish? |
| 17:25 | < Emmy> | Run RDP connection to work > RDP into server > RDP into main server > RDP into VM > SSH into 192.168.xx.xx |
| 17:25 | < Emmy> | >>> No reply from 192.168.xx.xx |
| 17:25 | < Emmy> | >>> WTF!? did i muck up the IP? |
| 17:26 | < Emmy> | >>> tries different IPs, nothing. |
| 17:26 | <&[R]> | Trying to ssh into a local machine while remoted? |
| 17:27 | < Emmy> | Almost! |
| 17:27 | < Emmy> | I had started SSH by windows-key+R > cmd |
| 17:28 | < Emmy> | ...Which opens the cmd on my home PC. Which obviously does not know shit about 192.168.xx.xx |
| 17:28 | <&[R]> | Why is work running a 192.168.x.x network? |
| 17:31 | < Emmy> | Not the usual 192.168.1 network though. There's several virtual networks. |
| 17:31 | < Emmy> | But long story short, this is a fairly young company with 10-15 employees. |
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| 17:45 | < Emmy> | Whoops. Had to create a new virtual switch |
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| 19:41 | < Mahal> | well done |
| 19:47 | < Emmy> | Well |
| 19:47 | < Emmy> | I just did a major fail again |
| 19:47 | < Emmy> | I had accidentally made a ~/Valheim/~ directory. |
| 19:47 | < Emmy> | administrator@ubuntu:~/Valheim$ rm -r ~ |
| 19:47 | < Emmy> | rm: cannot remove '/home/administrator': Permission denied |
| 19:47 | < Emmy> | administrator@ubuntu:~/Valheim$ sudo rm -r ~ |
| 19:48 | < Emmy> | Guess what i just removed, instead of that ~/Valheim/~ directory? |
| 19:48 | < Mahal> | well done |
| 19:48 | | * Emmy facedesks |
| 19:49 | < Emmy> | That's what you get for administering systems after dinner, i guess. |
| 20:03 | <@Tamber> | That horrible sinking feeling when it *tried* to warn you, but... |
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| 20:03 | < Emmy> | Yup |
| 20:04 | < Emmy> | I really should get that sudo reflex out of my system |
| 20:04 | < Emmy> | Admit it, though, that was a horrible attempt at a warning XD |
| 20:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | I mean, it told you not just that you weren't allowed but also exactly what you had asked it to remove |
| 20:07 | < Emmy> | Yep, and i read it like shit |
| 20:07 | < Emmy> | as i said. Should not be administrating systems after dinner XD |
| 20:07 | < Emmy> | Or perhaps not be a lazy ass and refer to home as ~ |
| 20:08 | <@Tamber> | The one that's bitten me a couple of times is "rm * ~" when I *meant* "rm *~" |
| 20:09 | < Emmy> | In this case it should've been "rm ./~" |
| 20:10 | < Emmy> | Oh well. Any time you do not go "DROP DATABASE ImportantDb" in production is a time you learn, i guess. |
| 20:11 | < Emmy> | Damage has already been undone anyway. |
| 20:12 | < Emmy> | It's a test machine anyway XD |
| 20:30 | <&[R]> | Emmy: hopefully you have regular backups? |
| 20:30 | <&[R]> | Oh |
| 20:30 | < Emmy> | There were only two files of importance in ~ |
| 20:30 | <&[R]> | \~ would have been sufficient |
| 20:30 | <&[R]> | And Valheim shouldn't be making a directory named ~ |
| 20:31 | < Emmy> | Yeah, a bit derpy. If you specify SaveDir=~/Valheim/Worlds it goes and make ./~/Valheim/Worlds in your current working directory @.@ |
| 20:32 | <&[R]> | Genius |
| 20:33 | < Emmy> | Both of those two important files also existed on my physical PC, and contained in them the instruction to generate the other data i accidentally deleted. |
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| 23:24 | <&Reiver> | bah, it's not working |
| 23:24 | <~Vornicus> | ? |
| 23:24 | <&Reiver> | Vornicus: So, for a specific kind of record in the list (Upgrade 20XXz), I would like to find the latest one before the start date of the calendar to state the 'current patch number' as it were |
| 23:24 | <&Reiver> | I can then trim the text for 'Upgrade' off of it and have a neat little version number |
| 23:24 | <&Reiver> | I am pretty sure I can do... something... to make it work with a max or something but |
| 23:24 | <&Reiver> | (Note: Upgrade status is eg 2021b) |
| 23:25 | <&Reiver> | I can do the text parsing but I'm a bit stuck on the 'take this array of text and find the most recent one based on the dates for each environment' |
| 23:26 | <&Reiver> | "Return to me the text from the cell with the highest value in another column" is just beyond my skillset, it seems |
| 23:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | welp, I need to name a project now -- an IRC<->Discord proxy based on the Zeiat IRC bridge library |
| 23:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | Current frontrunners: Dlique (Zeiat's (?sister)), Eris (the roman counterpart to Discordia), Logoi ("Stories", one of Eris's children), Aneris (Discordia's sister and opposite in modern Discordianism), Harmony (opposite of Discord) |
| 23:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | I was hoping to choose another Marathon reference to go with the hangouts bridge Hangbrain, but couldn't find a good one. |
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| 23:35 | < ErikMesoy> | I want to suggest something around De-scord but I can't get the pun to work |
| 23:37 | < Kizor> | Some sorta "Dis cord" pun since it's a connector... |
| 23:37 | < Kizor> | No, no. |
| 23:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | hellwire~ |
| 23:38 | <~Vornicus> | Reiver: you want the last one from before the first date, right |
| 23:38 | <~Vornicus> | And you have the first date, right |
| 23:38 | <~Vornicus> | xlookup can get you the lineup for the highest thing below a lookup value |
| 23:40 | <&Reiver> | Aha, this is "I need to go learn xlookup" |
| 23:40 | <&Reiver> | Okay, thank you |
| 23:41 | <&Reiver> | I am also trying to rejig your initial formula a bit |
| 23:41 | <&Reiver> | So I can go with dates in weekly views rather than daily |
| 23:41 | <&Reiver> | And not miss stuff that does not start on the same day |
| 23:42 | <&Reiver> | (ie, if it's listing all dates on display as the monday of any given week, it would be good if it still caught a refresh on a Wednesday) |
| 23:42 | <&Reiver> | (because I showed it to people and they preferred a weekly view, sigh) |
| --- Log closed Mon Oct 04 00:00:56 2021 |