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| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | Mostly 3, with an hint of 1. |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | It depends on whether the standard is in fact bad :D |
| 02:16 | <&McMartin> | But AFAIK cryptographic salt has stood up to the parameters that were demanded of it, in this case. |
| 02:16 | <&McMartin> | Just don't, you know, trust it further than what it purports to give you |
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| 20:03 | <&McMartin> | http://silverspaceship.com/hovalaag/ |
| 20:04 | <&McMartin> | For people who need more TIS-100 but thought it needed to be more like the Itanic |
| 21:36 | <~Vornicus> | I like how it's called a Zachlike |
| 21:37 | <&McMartin> | That's the name of the genre~ |
| 23:00 | <&[R]> | I like how they named something that would fail and sink just one letter less than the Titanic |
| 23:00 | <&[R]> | Or wait they didn't |
| 23:00 | <&[R]> | I derped, nm |
| 23:01 | <&McMartin> | Yes, the real name is Itanium, and Itanic was the name everyone gave it when it was a nonstarter |
| 23:01 | <&[R]> | Oh BTW, what compiler would you suggest if one wanted to compile some small C program for use inside of DOSBox? |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | How small are we talking, and is it being written specifically for DOS in the first place? |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | For a serious modern C program that makes use of protected mode etc etc I think your best shot is OpenWatcom |
| 23:03 | <&[R]> | Like 100 LoC at absolute maximum and it's just going to help me move around inside DOSBox, no intention to release it or anything |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | For that I would recommend Turbo C, which I think is still officially distributed for free by Borland's successors in interest. One moment while I check. |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | Just remember that Far Pointers Actually Matter :) |
| 23:03 | <&[R]> | Noted |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | https://cc.embarcadero.com/item/25636 |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | Tubro C 2.01 |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | Does not have inline asm support, but it sounds like you don't need it |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | If you need it later, NASM can produce object files that are link-compatible. |
| 23:06 | <&[R]> | Is that newer than Turbo C++ 4.0? |
| 23:06 | <&[R]> | Because I have a box of that |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | No, it's older. |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | I suspect Turbo C++ 4.0 will run great in Dosbox, though. |
| 23:06 | <~Vornicus> | open wat com |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | But if it doesn't, I've personally run that version up there and know it works. |
| 23:06 | <&[R]> | Fair enough |
| 23:07 | <&McMartin> | Turbo C++ also will have <conio.h> and a number of things that aren't standard but will make you program nicer to use. |
| 23:07 | <&[R]> | Is there an option to compile from Linux to produce a DOS executable? I'm likely to code from vim and all that anyways |
| 23:08 | <&McMartin> | oof. |
| 23:08 | <&McMartin> | I bet openwatcom can do it, but I've never used it. |
| 23:08 | <&McMartin> | What I did when I was messing with this was to work in a directory that Dosbox had mounted. |
| 23:09 | <&McMartin> | And then use Dosbox's RESCAN command to sync directory contents so it would see when Vim or Emacs changed anything. |
| 23:10 | <&[R]> | Ahhh |
| 23:10 | <&[R]> | I was wondering how to resync without rebooting DOSBox |
| 23:10 | <&McMartin> | I may have the exact spelling wrong, but it's definitely in the HELP page. |
| 23:11 | <&McMartin> | It's RESCAN, and it's not on the HELP page, it's a pretend file in Z:\ |
| 23:12 | <&McMartin> | Watcom had their own DOS extender (the famous DOS/4GW) and OpenWatcom uses that, IIRC. |
| 23:12 | <&McMartin> | If you want to mess with custom memory management I *think* Borland remains your best bet |
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