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| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2xdhazw6kigjyn/uqm-0.8b-mac.dmg?dl=1 |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | Experimental-ish macOS build of the UQM 0.8 beta, built using a newly created set of minimal build instructions |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | It would be particularly nice to see if this ran on systems older than 10.12. |
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| 09:19 | < Mahal> | I am not a programmer, but I would also note to Kizor that a certain direction of thinking is common to all 'good' sysadmins |
| 09:19 | < Mahal> | it's some combination of logic + common sense + willingness to think a smidgen outside the square and it combines into some arcane skillset where all the 'good' sysadmins I know just know Piles of Random Shit that mostly seems irrelevant day-to-day |
| 09:20 | < Mahal> | and yet when Excreta Meets Rotating Ventilators it is very important to have those specific types of people |
| 09:21 | < Mahal> | we do not know everything by a long shot but we are generally good at knowing what's important and what's not and when pressed can probably explain *why* |
| 09:21 | < Mahal> | although sometimes it boils down to "the last fifteen years of experience just have my radar going BING at that fact" not something easily definable |
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| 11:50 | <@Tamber> | Yeah, having that "Something's *fucky*" sense is quite important, especially when you have the eclectic grab-bag of "This broke horribly this way back at ${place}, and we had to wave a rubber chicken at it thusly..." sorts of knowledge~ |
| 11:52 | <@Tamber> | ...but also, ime, programming feels like I have to build a whole house of cards in my head that holds all the state of the world as far as a particular project goes and what interlinks with what. And that takes me about a week -- minimum -- of staring at it, poking things, and figuring out what stuff means. (And that's only for my small projects. x.x ) |
| 11:58 | <~Vorntastic> | Yeah the bearer you can make things the less you have to keep around |
| 11:58 | <~Vorntastic> | Neater, gosh |
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| 12:04 | <@Tamber> | Yeah, it's a lot better if it's not a giant spiderweb of stuff |
| 12:05 | <@Tamber> | But even so, there's still a good amount of mental card-house-building that needs to go on, if you're coming into it cold. |
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