| --- Log opened Mon Apr 06 00:00:02 2020 |
| 00:23 | < ErikMesoy> | I have a sentence reading "foo bar: the bazzening of baz". This sentence turns up in a local search for 'foo bar baz'. This sentence does NOT turn up in a local search for 'foo baz'. In fact, a search for 'foo baz' claims there are 0 results. Goddamned magic bullshit opaque computer functionality. |
| 00:23 | < ErikMesoy> | search finding sentences which contain my search terms? nah, can't have that |
| 00:24 | < ErikMesoy> | I do not recall whether I have ranted on this before, but I definitely feel in a rant mood now. |
| 00:25 | < ErikMesoy> | I've tried with multiple three-word combinations of foo, baz, and some other rare-to-unique word in the same paragraph. I see no obvious pattern to which combinations turn up the paragraph, and which combinations give '0 results' when I can see the word right there in the paragraph. |
| 00:26 | < ErikMesoy> | This is not a proper search functionality. This is MAGIC in a very derogatory sense of the word, i.e. "Memorize the right magic phrase to chant if you want things to happen" rather than understanding patterns or expecting consistency. |
| 00:26 | < ErikMesoy> | I'm pretty sure computers are not really magic, but sometimes, this kind of randomly dysfunctional shit makes me wonder. |
| 00:36 | | * ErikMesoy prods the search engine more, gets more enraged. |
| 00:37 | < ErikMesoy> | I am tempted to blame hostile action here, but hostile against whom? |
| 00:39 | < ErikMesoy> | It does not appear to be a function of word order entered in the search, nor is it simply discarding common words. |
| 00:40 | < ErikMesoy> | It is not the search engine breaking down entirely, because sometimes it will find only 1 result out of 2 that I know are there. |
| 00:41 | < ErikMesoy> | Search works across text-formatting boundaries like bold and italic. |
| 00:42 | < ErikMesoy> | But sometimes it will mysteriously fail to find a sentence when I search for sentences containing two words and I know exactly one sentence contains these two words. |
| 00:43 | < ErikMesoy> | This is consistently inconsistent: it keeps making the same mistakes with no clear pattern or reason. |
| 00:44 | < ErikMesoy> | Rebooting the app has not helped. |
| 00:45 | < ErikMesoy> | I know the sentence is indexed, because it turns up in a search for two OTHER words in that sentence, so it's not even a question of number of search terms... |
| 00:49 | < ErikMesoy> | Why is finding words in a sentence seemingly beyond the capability of billion-dollar software in Current Year? |
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| 18:58 | <&jerith> | I would just like to note https://github.com/kubernetes/kubectl/issues/852 for anyone using kubernetes. |
| 18:59 | <&jerith> | That is a bug report for kubectl 1.18.0 (the latest release, IIRC) which causes `kubectl diff` to silently also act like `kubectl apply`. |
| 19:00 | | * TheWatcher golfclaps |
| 19:03 | <&jerith> | I am extremely angry that this made it all the way to release, but I'm not at all surprised. |
| 19:04 | <&jerith> | kubernetes is, after all, written in a language that is highly resistant to effective design principles and automated testing. |
| 20:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | I've figured out how to remote control ultrasonic on durandal and it's disgusting |
| 20:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | On durandal, I run a bash loop that polls the contents of a file in my homedir and, based on that, emits keystrokes to the player running in chrome |
| 20:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | Then I can ssh into it from other machines and write to that file to control the player |
| 20:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | (the reason for this is that Durandal has the good speakers, but when I'm WFH does not have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor) |
| 20:38 | <~Vornicus> | what the fuck is ultrasonic that this is considered a sensible idea |
| 20:38 | <~Vornicus> | because that's monstrous |
| 21:47 | <&VirusJTG> | no less onsterous than controling a linux Kubernettes cluster running in VMware ESXi, hooked into NSX-T for network virtualization fromn a windows install |
| 21:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: it's a music server. |
| 21:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | Self-hosted Google Play Music/Spotify/etc sort of thing. |
| 21:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | Has an integrated web-based player, although I believe you can also use it as a source for DLNA and whatnot. |
| 21:49 | <&VirusJTG> | I should tinker with that |
| 21:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | However, it has no API for "I am on computer A, and I want to control the web player running on computer B, which is headless" |
| 21:50 | <&ToxicFrog> | (it has a "jukebox mode" which does allow for remote control, but that's for "the airsonic server is running on the computer with the speakers attached to it") |
| 21:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | VirusJTG: point of clarification: "ultrasonic" is the client I use on my phone. "airsonic" is the actual server software. "subsonic" is the API and the original server (and I believe there are other forks of it like libresonic) |
| 21:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | I tend to use all three terms interchangeably when not paying attention. |
| 21:53 | | * VirusJTG nods |
| 21:53 | <&VirusJTG> | that makes me assume my situation is more monsterous |
| 21:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh? |
| 21:55 | <&VirusJTG> | I'm having to cobble together multiple, not exactly liking each other compnents |
| 21:55 | <&VirusJTG> | current issue is helm charts won't exicute against the clusters due to a missing cert on the windows side. Fortunetly its still in POC phase |
| 21:56 | <&VirusJTG> | So, I have time |
| 21:56 | <&VirusJTG> | we are trying to modernize a monelithic application into a container based system |
| 21:56 | <&VirusJTG> | so, the battle is on multiple fronts |
| 21:56 | <&VirusJTG> | its about 80% working currently |
| 21:57 | <&VirusJTG> | the other 20% is still manual |
| 21:57 | <&VirusJTG> | it will invovle, powershell, bash, and perl all calling each other I think |
| 21:58 | <&VirusJTG> | dev ops wants to deploy a new environment by "clicking a button" |
| 21:58 | <&VirusJTG> | our directive is "make it happen" |
| 21:58 | <&VirusJTG> | then there is the issue of the CI/CD being azure dev ops, but the express oute install was botched by the telco |
| 21:59 | <&VirusJTG> | they litterally installed routers with out the internet connection |
| 21:59 | <&VirusJTG> | so the order has to be redune |
| 21:59 | <&VirusJTG> | in the mean time there is a legacy VPN, that doesn't route to the kubernetes subnet |
| 21:59 | <&VirusJTG> | so a machine in the middle will be required |
| 21:59 | <&VirusJTG> | we can't modify the VPN becuase microsft is pushing every one to express routes and is no longer supporting their modifications |
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| 22:22 | <&[R]> | ToxicFrog: why not mpd? |
| 22:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: historically my attempts to get web clients working usefully with mpd have best been described as "tragic" |
| 22:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | With airsonic the web client is the entire point and is thus built in |
| 22:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | It also has some other features that are useful to me, like automatic podcast polling and the ability to add multiple, separate libraries and then give each user account access to a different set of libraries. |
| 22:26 | <&[R]> | Ah |
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