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| 01:34 | <@celticminstrel> | I feel like using the width attribute to make a table cell take minimum space is not really correct? |
| 01:35 | <&[R]> | Given that such a thing is the default, I agree |
| 01:35 | <@celticminstrel> | IIRC, the old HTML4 width attribute had something like width="*" for this purpose (maybe it was something other than *, the main point was that it wasn't an actual number). I don't remember how to get the same effect with CSS tho. |
| 01:38 | <&[R]> | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26983301/how-to-make-a-table-column-be-a-minimum-width <-- apparently it is a suggested solution though |
| 01:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah, it's definitely not "the default", by default all the cells try to equally share the space no matter how much they actually need and it looks hideous |
| 01:48 | <&[R]> | I didn't notice you had specified a width to the table when I made that comment |
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| 02:09 | <@sshine> | hmm |
| 02:10 | <@sshine> | at Exercism we have this hard problem of showing "community solutions" to a problem, which often amounts to 20.000 variations of very simple problems. |
| 02:11 | <@sshine> | it'd be neat to be able to classify solutions as either alike or unlike the one you're currently looking at so as to be able to provide a more distinct overview of the span of solutions. |
| 02:11 | <@sshine> | it seems that most code similarity algorithms focus on plagiarism or duplication. |
| 02:12 | <&McMartin> | That seems like it would be a fine starting point. |
| 02:12 | <@sshine> | what seems? |
| 02:12 | <@sshine> | oh, right! |
| 02:12 | <&McMartin> | Anti-plagiarism. |
| 02:12 | <&McMartin> | Most solutions are 98% similar to each other or more even when not plagiarized, simply by dint of solving the same problem. |
| 02:13 | <&McMartin> | But if you're looking for *wildly different approaches* I'd expect there to be clusters of very similar answers where leaving the cluster makes similarity noticably drop. |
| 02:13 | <@sshine> | right |
| 02:13 | <@sshine> | I seem to recall one professor doing a simple plagiarism check by way of... I don't even know... hamming distance? |
| 02:14 | <@sshine> | it was something super simple and inefficient (I need something efficient, though). |
| 02:14 | <&McMartin> | You may be thinking of the professor Alex Aiken? |
| 02:14 | <&McMartin> | If not, I think he wrote some tools for this stuff like 20 years ago |
| 02:15 | <@sshine> | ah, no, it was Andrzej Filinski: http://hjemmesider.diku.dk/~andrzej/ |
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| 02:16 | <&[R]> | Man, people who have their phone numbers online are super trusting |
| 02:17 | <@sshine> | I don't even list *anywhere* my employer's name. |
| 02:18 | <@sshine> | so when I look around for plagiarism articles and code, I get super confused. most of it is focused on software that detects plagiarism in human language. |
| 02:18 | <@sshine> | ah, found some. |
| 02:18 | <@sshine> | just a sec. |
| 02:19 | <&McMartin> | https://theory.stanford.edu/~aiken/moss/ is the one I was thinking of |
| 02:19 | <&McMartin> | Had to dig through a lot of dead links to find the one that works. |
| 02:20 | <@sshine> | also, a lot of plagiarism of source code deals with finding needles in haystacks. |
| 02:20 | < catalyst> | I've now been working on the same codebase for 23 days |
| 02:20 | < catalyst> | I think I got it back |
| 02:20 | <@sshine> | catalyst, where did it go? |
| 02:20 | <@sshine> | McMartin, wow, thanks for that link! |
| 02:20 | < catalyst> | I burned out years ago and I've been running low for a long time |
| 02:21 | < catalyst> | took a long break |
| 02:21 | <&McMartin> | sshine: This may not be what they want though because it's apparently an "internet service" isntead of a thing you can run on a fixed corpus? Maybe there are other bits. |
| 02:22 | <~Vornicus> | I once considered writing a bot to give specific criticisms of exercism solutions but determined that I didn't know anywhere near enough about source code analysis to do it |
| 02:25 | < Mahal> | Real phone number, or Google Voice number, though? |
| 02:25 | < Mahal> | the latter seems a bit safer |
| 02:31 | <&[R]> | " However, Moss is for non-commercial use. If you are interested in commercial uses of Moss, contact Similix Corporation." |
| 02:31 | <@Reiv> | catalyst: It's grand to hear you've got the mojo back :) |
| 02:31 | <@Reiv> | Are you working on a personal project, or something paid? |
| 02:31 | <@sshine> | McMartin, what do you mean by "internet service"? is this a possible license problem or a possible use-case problem? |
| 02:32 | <@sshine> | [R], Exercism is a non-commercial project, though. |
| 02:32 | <&[R]> | sshine: Search for "An Internet Service" that section and the one after it |
| 02:34 | <@sshine> | oh >_< |
| 02:34 | <@sshine> | at least they link to a paper on some of the ideas behind Moss. |
| 02:36 | <&McMartin> | Yeah. That said, for fixed corpuses, it might still be usable. |
| 02:37 | <&McMartin> | If it lets you say "here are 20,000 solutions, give me measures of software similarity" that might be a one-shot solution. |
| 02:38 | < catalyst> | Reiv: personal stuff for the moment :) |
| 02:39 | <@Reiv> | nifty |
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| 06:49 | <&Reiver> | (Fwiw, I'm not asking because I presume if you wanted to share you'd say so, so it's either Sekret or Incomprehensible, and both are entirely respectable choices~) |
| 07:14 | | * Vorntastic blings |
| 07:16 | | * Reiver gives Vorntastic a dubloon |
| 07:17 | | * Vorntastic dublings? |
| 07:49 | <&Reiver> | :D |
| 07:49 | <&Reiver> | how you doin' vorny |
| 07:55 | <~Vorntastic> | Pretty good. Trying to convince mobile Excel to do things. Unfortunately it cannot |
| 07:56 | <~Vorntastic> | (array formulas like transpose can't be created) |
| 08:09 | <&Reiver> | oh really? :/ |
| 08:10 | <~Vorntastic> | Also array reshape doesn't exist in Excel at all |
| 08:14 | <&Reiver> | I wonder if this is a memory-preservation technique for mobiles |
| 08:16 | <~Vorntastic> | More likely they couldn't figure out how to reveal it |
| 08:20 | <~Vorntastic> | Not having Ctrl shift alt meta bucky available makes it hard |
| 08:21 | <&Reiver> | truth |
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