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| 18:56 | <&jerith> | I hate k8s so much. |
| 18:56 | <&jerith> | Not k8s itself, really -- that's actually not too bad. |
| 18:56 | <&jerith> | But everything around it. |
| 18:57 | <&jerith> | I keep hitting things that are *almost* entirely undocumented. |
| 18:58 | <&jerith> | But since they appear in an example on the generated docs for some random API, that apparently means they're "documented". |
| 19:01 | <&[R]> | At least you don't have incorrect documentation |
| 19:05 | < Yossarian> | I aliased 'apropos' to look in every manpage section execpt 3, which are function libraries. I was tired of looking for relevant manpages and getting hit up with Allegro or GTK or X11 function calls |
| 19:06 | < Yossarian> | Hurrah for me. |
| 19:07 | <&[R]> | I've got that `man` function someone here wrote. Makes it list all manpages when there's more than one, but if there's only one it goes straight to that instead |
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| 19:08 | <&[R]> | https://termbin.com/orvs |
| 19:09 | < Yossarian> | I'm getting pretty good at setting up .bashrc or .profile or .bash_profile, Nomikos gave me ssh access to a VPS; I have never thought about man collisions before. Hmm. |
| 19:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: that one's mine :) |
| 19:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | (but I stole the idea from openSUSE) |
| 19:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yossarian: try `man read` sometime; there's read.1p (POSIX standard for shell utilities) and sometimes read.1 (if it's not folded into the manual for your shell), read.2 (the system call), read.3p (POSIX standard for the system call, not sure why it's 3p and not 2p -- maybe because POSIX doesn't mandate it be implemented as a syscall?) and sometimes read.3t or similar (the TCL standard library |
| 19:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | function) |
| 19:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | Some systems will have read.3 |
| 19:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | Some systems will have read.3P or read.3pl for the perl one, too. |
| 19:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | Even when this doesn't happen it's not uncommon to see both 1 and 3 (shell command and libc function) or 3 and 3p (libc function and standards document for same). |
| 19:31 | <&jerith> | [R]: I have over a dozen different versions of most of the documentation. |
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| 19:39 | <&[R]> | jerith: as man pages? |
| 19:41 | <&jerith> | No, as web pages. I don't think I have enough disk space for multiple copies of the k8s documentation. |
| 19:41 | <&[R]> | Oh right, different topic |
| 19:42 | <&jerith> | Most of it seems to be generated from openapi specs, and is thus both huge and utterly useless. |
| 19:45 | <&[R]> | :/ |
| 19:57 | <&[R]> | <griffrog> how do I edit those files? vi doesn't seem to read them |
| 19:57 | <&[R]> | <griffrog> the /usr/bin/poweroff and /usr/bin/reboot (they do exist) |
| 19:57 | <&[R]> | Noobs are terrifying |
| 20:02 | <@Tamber> | That sort of question should really be answered with another one, something along the lines of: "What are you trying to achieve?" |
| 20:02 | <&jerith> | You were one once. |
| 20:02 | <&jerith> | So was I. |
| 20:03 | <&jerith> | And I was certainly terrifying. |
| 20:03 | <@Tamber> | I have done some real stupid stuff. Still do. |
| 20:03 | <&jerith> | (I'm still terrifying, but for very different reasons.) |
| 20:07 | <&[R]> | <griffrog> Greetings! Before an update I could choose to reboot, shutdown, hibernate, etc., from the lxde-logout menu. Now the only options are to switch screen, switch user, logout and cancel, and I have to choose logout before I can then choose to reboot or shutdown. How can I get the old options back? |
| 20:07 | <&[R]> | ^ context |
| 20:12 | < Yossarian> | LaTeX is giving me a pain in the ass. |
| 20:13 | <&jerith> | In what way? |
| 20:14 | <&jerith> | Lack of lubrication? Excessive capsaicin? |
| 20:16 | <@TheWatcher> | XD |
| 20:17 | < Yossarian> | Using a template that is GPL'd, not reading LaTeX documentation, and there is a command for a short list but latex or more accurately xelatex interpreter is giving me very obscure errors... I thought gcc was bad |
| 20:18 | < Yossarian> | I should probably open two vim windows to look at the template and the .tex file I'm editing to get a clue |
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| 20:33 | <&[R]> | The shell that latex drops you into is also terrifying |
| 20:35 | <&[R]> | I ended up putting the batch flag into my report scripts |
| 20:35 | < Yossarian> | H for help doesn't give you much help, I'll tell ya that. It's my fault for using a LaTeX template instead of, I dunno, Learning LaTeX with some extensions over the course of five days? |
| 20:36 | <&[R]> | People do some crazy stuff with LaTeX |
| 20:36 | <@TheWatcher> | The help is really just the sadistic joke of a psychotic developer |
| 20:37 | < Yossarian> | If you're interested the template or similiar template is here: https://github.com/spagnuolocarmine/TwentySecondsCurriculumVitae-LaTex/blob/master/twentysecondcv.cls - I've tried invoking the \newenvironment{twentyshort} on line 260 but I can't seem to close it correctly... but I realize that the twentyitem, twenty, and twentyshort are just commands for formatting. I could go ahead and use |
| 20:37 | < Yossarian> | manual latex formatting I guess... |
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| 20:45 | < Yossarian> | \begin{itemize} works without being embedded in the twentylist |
| 20:45 | < Yossarian> | I'll manually format it now and then add to the template later |
| 20:45 | < Yossarian> | :) |
| 20:53 | < Yossarian> | Oh right, I have Zeal which uses Dash (Mac OSX?) docsets which has... a LaTeX docset. Wewt. |
| 20:59 | <&jerith> | Yossarian: I recently used https://github.com/mszep/pandoc_resume which worked rather well. |
| 21:02 | < Yossarian> | I might do the next B&W resume in Markdown with pandoc. LaTeX has an interest to me because there are very old text books that aren't optically scanned and can be written right out in LaTeX to be searchable, among other thing. But I've heard of some people using markdown for everything and then pandoc/doxygen |
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| 22:17 | < Yossarian> | I'm learning, I'm learning... |
| 22:35 | < Yossarian> | Okay, second revision. I might tighten up the itemize/bullets for Skills |
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