code logs -> 2019 -> Wed, 01 May 2019< code.20190430.log - code.20190502.log >
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03:36
<&McMartin>
https://github.com/robb0wen/synthwave-vscode
03:49
<@Alek>
[R] no, I mean resizing the contents to remain proportional to the window, if the resolution or zoom is above a certain level.
03:50
<@Alek>
so you don't end up with tiny contents if you have a fullscreen page in 8k resolution zoomed to 50% size, for example. >_>
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09:01
<&jerith>
Alek: In my experience, messing with expected behaviour is almost always a bad idea.
09:02
<&jerith>
Especially on the web.
09:13
<&jerith>
Do you have some specific purpose for this?
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11:07
<@gnolam>
https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11
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18:15
<@Alek>
jerith: like I said, to prevent the page becoming tiny in the window, with too much empty space.
18:18
<&jeroud>
McMartin: They're also looking at generic types, apparently. But I'm not holding my breath.
18:20
<&jeroud>
Alek: I'm probably a bit of an outlier in terms of web usability stuff.
18:26
<&jeroud>
Are you expecting anyone to zoom way out on a high resolution display?
18:31
<@Alek>
basically I'd like anything beyond HD (1920x1080) and 100% zoom to scale to approximately that. stuff like ultrawide or 4k monitors, or zooming out.
18:31
<~Vornicus>
I still can't understand what you're saying
18:32
<~Vornicus>
Like there's a whole field of design called Responsive Design where the web page will try to take advantage of the screen real estate you have
18:32
<@Alek>
the website has css settings to adjust how it looks at smaller resolutions (although zooming in is still a problem), but at larger resolutions or zoomed out it's got too much empty space around the components.
18:33
<@Alek>
it's not urgent yet, I was just trying to plan ahead, but hm. I'll look that up.
18:34
<~Vornicus>
nowadays, flex and/or grid are the tools of choice; both are pure CSS
18:35
<~Vornicus>
you use media queries to decide when to change the layout
18:43
<&jeroud>
I prefer to stick to default behaviour and let people zoom or resize to whatever's comfortable for them.
18:48
<&jeroud>
It annoys me when the text on a page is locked to a fixed width and gives me horizontal scrollbars or big empty borders instead of fitting the text to the window.
18:48
<&jeroud>
Sometimes I have the browser window narrow next to the something else.
18:51
<@Alek>
well, the big empty borders is what I'd like to avoid, too.
18:52
<@Alek>
but horizontal scrollbars will be avoided too because the page does adjust for getting smaller.
18:57
<~Vornicus>
remember that long lines of text are annoying to read
18:57
<~Vornicus>
(there are css columns systems too)
18:57
<~Vornicus>
and that images that are super large can be annoying
19:00
<@Alek>
the website is mostly images. a photography studio webpage.
19:01
<@Alek>
I'm more worried about the images being super small compared to the monitor, but I'll look into stuff.
19:02
<@Alek>
pictures that are just right on a 25" HD screen would be a little small on a 4k or bigger 30" monitor, for example. >_>
19:03
<~Vornicus>
Use a percentile width on image elements and you probably get all you need
19:03
<@Alek>
not to mention the text and forms. not that there's much of it.
19:12
<@Alek>
hm. oh yeah, using percentile on just image elements kinda breaks how they look in comparison to the whole layout, tbh. which is why I wanted to scale the whole layout instead.
19:13
<~Vornicus>
for the love of mike figure out what exactly you want it to look like before committing any css
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19:33
<&jeroud>
Ah, images. That's much more reasonable.
19:33
<&jeroud>
You likely want to use cm rather than px or something.
19:36
<&jeroud>
The browser should know the size and dot pitch of the display, etc.
19:37
<~Vornicus>
percentages will scale naturally to fit whatever size the container is
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