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| 00:10 | < [R]> | abudhabi: you ask the entity responsible for the DNS of the IP block. This is often your ISP. |
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| 08:31 | | * abudhabi goes bother the folks we rent the server from and use the DNS servers of. |
| 08:37 | | * abudhabi facepalms. |
| 08:37 | <@abudhabi> | The admin panel with them required me to change my password. |
| 08:38 | <@abudhabi> | I did, and I apparently input it wrong, because they didn't have a two-input-box password confirmation, just one. |
| 08:38 | <@abudhabi> | And now I don't know WTF I actually typed in there. |
| 08:40 | <@abudhabi> | And the bloody forgot password form isn't clear that they're sending to my email. May be to some internal 'mailbox' separate from the admin panel. |
| 09:01 | | Kindamoody[zZz] is now known as Kindamoody|afk |
| 10:41 | < Kizor> | For panels like that, I decide to type my password into the URL bar or Notepad or somewhere else I can see it and review it and then copypaste it to the panel. Then I forget to actually do that. |
| 10:42 | <@TheWatcher> | abudhabi: ... |
| 10:43 | <@TheWatcher> | what kind of janky POS only has a single password box with no confirm? O.o That's just asking for bloody trouble. |
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| 19:15 | <@abudhabi> | TheWatcher: A Chinese POS, apparently. |
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| 19:17 | | * abudhabi plots a new office-purposes desktop. |
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| 19:18 | <@abudhabi> | I originally thought about a larger laptop, but I think I can get something cheaper and better with a self-assembled desktop. |
| 19:19 | < [R]> | Desktops are nearly always cheaper |
| 19:19 | < [R]> | Also less likely to have crippling heat-disipation issues |
| 19:20 | <~Vornicus> | reminds me I need to start pricing out a new PC |
| 19:20 | <~Vornicus> | I've nearly got the money |
| 19:20 | <@abudhabi> | Something I want is silence. I hope silence is available in desktop. |
| 19:20 | < [R]> | Yes, look for a case that supports big fans |
| 19:20 | <~Vornicus> | Giant Fuckoff Fans |
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| 19:21 | <@abudhabi> | Big fans, slow move, less noise? |
| 19:21 | <~Vornicus> | Yeah |
| 19:21 | < [R]> | I have a few of the rockwell 4U ATX chassi's, they're loaded up with 7 of the big fans and it's pretty much completely silent. |
| 19:22 | < [R]> | You don't need to go crazy with cooling if you're not overclocking either |
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| 19:22 | <@abudhabi> | Yeah, I doubt I'll go beyond integrated graphics. |
| 19:23 | <~Vornicus> | Get a case that's basically a window box fan with motherboard mounts |
| 19:24 | < [R]> | lol |
| 19:24 | < [R]> | Also if you're assembling it yourself, a spacious case will make you less crazy |
| 19:26 | < [R]> | If you have the space for it, the rockwell case I mentioned above is nice for that. They're only 100$ (entry level case is like 40$, a half-decent one is about 100$ and the nicer ones start at $500) |
| 19:26 | < [R]> | It's just basically a big open box |
| 19:27 | < [R]> | Though probably not that great of a deal if you're only going to get one hard-drive for it. |
| 19:28 | < [R]> | (That rockwell case is the first one I could actually do clean cable runs with) |
| 20:09 | < [R]> | QUERY: in C, how would one have control over a child process' three fds? Would I basically have to reimpliment popen()? |
| 20:10 | < [R]> | This project isn't expected to be ported to that one OS, though portability to other UNIXes would be nice |
| 20:12 | < [R]> | fd's* |
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| 20:24 | <@celticminstrel> | So basically you need a way that's standardized by POSIX, right? |
| 20:25 | <@celticminstrel> | (I don't know the answer though, sorry. Not even clear what you mean by having control over them.) |
| 20:31 | < [R]> | I want to make a "wrapper daemon" of sorts for things that work in a UNIX pipeline. The daemon would recieve input and send that (after some minor processing, so no direct piping) into the stdin of the target process, then it would grab all the stuff send on stderr and stdout and send that back to the client (possibly caching it as well) |
| 20:32 | < [R]> | So the child process has to see fd 0 as a stream it can read from, and fd 1 and 2 as streams it can write too. The wrapper process has to have some means of interacting with the child's fd's. |
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| 20:43 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: traditionally, this is done by adjusting the fds as needed after fork() but before exec() |
| 20:43 | < [R]> | Yeah, looks like I need to pipe() a bunch, fork(), then dup() and close() spam then exec*() |
| 20:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | This is, e.g., how the shell handles io redirection and pipelines: it forks, the child opens/closes/rearranges the fds as needed, then once they're all set up it calls exec(). |
| 21:35 | <@abudhabi> | How practical is a CPU with just a heatsink and no fan? |
| 21:37 | < Degi> | Depends on the CPU |
| 21:37 | < Degi> | But could work with a big heatsink and no case |
| 21:37 | <@abudhabi> | And a low power CPU, I expect. |
| 21:38 | < Degi> | I mean some phones got 2.8 GHz 4 core and no heatsink |
| 22:07 | <@abudhabi> | Let's see. I've got some PSUs here with maximum noise around 10-11 dB. |
| 22:08 | <@abudhabi> | This seems good. |
| 22:08 | < Degi> | You could probably use a fanless one |
| 22:08 | <@abudhabi> | I can try another store, because this one doesn't stock any of those. |
| 22:10 | <@abudhabi> | Man, these things are expensive. |
| 22:13 | <@abudhabi> | Hmm. |
| 22:13 | <@abudhabi> | Actually, anything quieter than my present laptop is fine. |
| 22:13 | <@abudhabi> | Which is apparently ~30 dB. |
| 22:15 | <@abudhabi> | Picking a cheap 20 dB thingy should be fine. |
| 22:46 | <@abudhabi> | The GA-F2A68HM-DS2 has an integrated graphics card, right? Even if the processor itself does not? |
| 22:51 | <@abudhabi> | So far I've got this tentative set: https://pastebin.com/raw/ueQD5P6M |
| 22:53 | < Degi> | Not sure whether that got a GPU |
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