code logs -> 2018 -> Fri, 13 Jul 2018< code.20180712.log - code.20180714.log >
--- Log opened Fri Jul 13 00:00:56 2018
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08:37
< simon_>
are there any negative side-effects of using HTTP 410 Gone instead of 404 when I'm in fact removing stuff so it won't be indexed by search engines? (like old job ads that have expired and customers are annoyed by finding them on Google.)
08:38
<@Pi>
Search engines won't treat them too differently, I think.
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09:23
< Vorntastic>
Whee, crushing brute force with prefix checking
09:26
<&McMartin>
glorious crushings
10:20
< simon_>
this guy. pushes stuff that breaks the production build tests. leaves it for hours. everyone else wastes time stating it wasn't them.
10:21
< simon_>
he's the only guy with git access who isn't a part of the dev team. he just has his boardgame-filled dungeon in the basement. >_<
10:53
< simon_>
I wrote to him and asked him to test before pushing to master with the argument that he'd lower the cognitive load by a factor (N-1)*M where N is the number of people who do this and M is the number of tests that fail.
10:54
< simon_>
I suspect that nobody ever tells him to cooperate like this. his pushes don't affect major production parts, mostly just stuff relevant to the econ dept.
11:23
<@TheWatcher>
branch protection, lock him out of master
12:40
<@mac>
McMartin: Honestly, assignment-in-expression is one of the things I've felt Python was missing. For exactly the uses listed in the PEP.
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14:10
<@mac>
Hey, anyone here running Firefox in a Linux environment? If so, could you please run 'firefox -h' and PM me the output?
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14:37
<&ToxicFrog>
macdjord: I don't actually use it, but I have it installed, hang on
14:37
<&ToxicFrog>
macdjord: http://ix.io/1h2P
14:38
<@macdjord>
ToxicFrog: Thanks.
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15:45
<@gnolam>
Argh. The Hardest Problem in Computer Science, x 2
15:45
<@gnolam>
.
15:46
<@gnolam>
One I can't really ask for advice about, but the remaining one... hmm.
15:50
<@gnolam>
I have a composite data type that represents... Things. These Things have a code, "Number" (actually a string), that is used to uniquely identify them and is used as a key for all sorts of things.
15:51
<@gnolam>
Now I have to add a field to override that value for display purposes only.
15:52
<@gnolam>
And I just can't think of what to call it.
15:52
<@gnolam>
The requester is calling it an alias, but... it's really not - that implies that it should also work as an alternate key.
16:01
<@macdjord>
gnolam: 'Display Name'
16:08
<@gnolam>
Ah, should have mentioned. It's already got a "Name" as well - so it's usually displayed as something like "XYZ01: Foobar Fnordite" where XYZ01 is the code ("Number") and "Foobar Fnordite" is the name.
16:26
<~Vornicus>
display code
16:37
<&ToxicFrog>
"display code", "display id", "human-readable id"
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18:16
<@macdjord>
gnolam: So, wait. 'Number' is your database ID and contains 'XYZ01'. 'Name' is your textual descriptor, and contains 'Foobar Fnordite'. And you are adding a column which contains 'XYZ01: Foobar Fnordite', and you want to know what to call that?
18:19
<@macdjord>
gnolam: I would suggest 'Displayed name', but I question why you are storing this rather than generating it at need.
18:22
<@gnolam>
No, the field will replace the Number field wherever it is displayed to the end user. So if it's, say, "XYZZY", it should then display as "XYZZY: Foobar Fnordite". Even though, under the hood, it is actually still XYZ01.
18:26
<@macdjord>
gnolam: 'Display ID'.
18:27
<@macdjord>
Or 'Display Number'
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22:21 * ToxicFrog | In an artificial life simulation where survival required energy but giving birth had no energy cost, one species evolved a sedentary lifestyle that consisted mostly of mating in order to produce new children which could be eaten (or used as mates to produce more edible children).
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