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| 04:34 | | * Vornotron does some reading, determines that the strategy he was planning is in fact exactly a good idea |
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| 04:48 | <@Reiv> | Vornotron: That is a good sign! What is the strategy that is a good idea? |
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| 05:06 | <~Vornotron> | Reiv: so I've been looking into, essentially, infinite generation of voronoi diagrams. My plan was approximately to: 1. generate delaunay triangulations in regions; 2. for each region, take those points from neighboring regions that might connect to this region's triangulation; 3. rejigger the triangulation accordingly; 4. generate the dual |
| 05:09 | <@Reiv> | That sounds awesome. |
| 05:09 | <@Reiv> | It would be even more awesome if I understood several of those words, but that is not your fault~ |
| 05:09 | <~Vornotron> | It turns out that this is basically a known technique, so I'm not insane |
| 05:12 | <&McMartin> | yay |
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| 05:58 | <~Vornotron> | hate casework. |
| 06:06 | <~Vornotron> | also hate handedness. |
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| 08:29 | <@gnolam> | GNsghngnrh |
| 08:29 | <@gnolam> | WHY GOD WHY |
| 08:30 | <@gnolam> | Why do people insist on pasting screenshots into Word documents and mailing them instead of just /attaching the fucking screenshots/!? |
| 08:57 | < simon_> | gnolam, I used to correct compiler assignments where people had taken smartphone photos of their illustrations and included them in reports. whenever they did that, I'd write my response in a document, print that document, take a picture of it, include that picture in a document and send them that as feedback. :-D |
| 09:00 | <@gnolam> | :D |
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| 12:06 | <@TheWatcher> | gnolam: I've had that multiple times, and the only answer I've ever managed to extract from people is that they don't know any way to just send the screenshot |
| 12:07 | <@TheWatcher> | They use the prtscn button to grab the screen, and then paste it into word because "It just works" |
| 12:07 | <@Tamber> | Reduce it to a problem they've already solved: sending word documents~ |
| 12:08 | <&[R]> | gnolam: I dealt with a woman who would write her emails in word, save that, and send /those/ |
| 12:08 | <@Tamber> | *wince* |
| 12:08 | <&[R]> | No email body. |
| 12:08 | <&[R]> | Just a fucking attachment |
| 12:09 | <@TheWatcher> | I assume you managed to find a good place to hide the body, though? |
| 12:09 | <&[R]> | She lived/worked in a different country |
| 12:10 | <&[R]> | So there were some logistical issues there |
| 12:11 | <@TheWatcher> | Blegh |
| 13:02 | <&Reiver> | Let's be fair |
| 13:03 | <&Reiver> | When you have a screenshot in your buffer, where /do/ you paste it? It was only relatively recently you could paste a simple image into an email, especially a web-based client. |
| 13:03 | <&Reiver> | Before then you need ed to attach it /somehow/, and Windows was singularily bad at letting you do that - probably the best tool for most folks would have been futzing about with Paint, which is definitely not the most intuitive method. |
| 13:03 | <&Reiver> | But you could always paste a picture into a Word document in modern memory, and mailing a Word document is trivial. |
| 13:04 | <&Reiver> | Just because it is the wrong solution does not mean it was not sensible given the UI obscufication of the time! |
| 13:04 | <&Reiver> | Even my favored screenshot app, Greenshot, doesn't actually let me /paste shit/ into its editor, much as this makes me sa d. |
| 13:23 | <@TheWatcher> | Reiver: look at irfanview, then. |
| 13:24 | <@TheWatcher> | does screenshots, supports paste, does basic image editing in-place, ridiculously small footprint, has an excellent thumbnail browser mode, and on.. |
| 13:29 | <&Reiver> | oh man, I remember irfanview from /so long ago/ |
| 13:29 | <&Reiver> | Is that still around? lol. |
| 13:29 | <&Reiver> | holy shit, it still is |
| 13:29 | <&Reiver> | And it is still available from CNET |
| 13:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | Pretty sure it's still the best windows native image viewer |
| 13:29 | <&Reiver> | How the hell is CNET still a thing |
| 13:30 | <&Reiver> | Greenshot + Paint.NET pretty much replaced most of my day to day needs for it, alas |
| 13:30 | <@TheWatcher> | Reiver: not only still around, still being updated - last update was end of feb |
| 13:30 | <&Reiver> | So I forgot it existed somewhere around Windows 7 |
| 13:30 | <&Reiver> | No harm or foul, just, y'know |
| 13:30 | < Vorntastic> | I actually disliked irfanview but I don't remember why |
| 13:30 | <&Reiver> | iirc it has a non-commercial liscence or something |
| 13:32 | <&Reiver> | I'll be damned, it's even on the Windows Store |
| 13:32 | <&Reiver> | Sure, why not I'll do it there |
| 13:33 | <&Reiver> | Anyway, while this is fun to rock the oldskool |
| 13:33 | <&Reiver> | I'll note that to come up with an /actually decent solution to my problem/ I just downloaded and installed an app |
| 13:33 | <&Reiver> | Plenty of folks literally can't do that |
| 13:33 | <&Reiver> | This is why you get screenshots in Word documents~ |
| 13:34 | | * Reiver is pleased that standards finally started letting us hit 'paste' into web pages, but it's certainly not an item of trivial ancient history. |
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| 15:41 | <~Vornotron> | THe Blade Chose Me is terrible coding music: I am too busy headbanging |
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| 16:46 | < Vornucopia> | arg, ADD, stop it |
| 16:47 | < Vornucopia> | One thing at a time. Write tests for is_in_triangle. |
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| 18:11 | < Vornucopia> | arg, ADD, stop it. One thing at a time. Don't stare at centroid calculations, you need to make sure your handedness is right |
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| 20:52 | <&[R]> | <stara> I want use command: print /d:\\comp_remote\name_printer C:\folder\text.txt , but on displayer printer display is INK LOW, and I can't print my text document. How to fix? |
| 23:10 | <@Tamber> | :) |
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| 23:32 | < Vornucopia> | whyyy the hell am I making this a single function I should know better than this |
| 23:39 | < Vornucopia> | also, oh god |
| 23:39 | < Vornucopia> | okay. |
| 23:45 | < Vornucopia> | So, delaunay triangulation. the methods I've found so far are, um. "completionish" |
| 23:48 | < Vornucopia> | or, how do I put it. YOu are required to have the entire dataset before you start, even if it's one of the ones where you add points one at a time, because you must guarantee you start with an extreme point of some sort. |
| 23:50 | < Vornucopia> | But in the case I'm working on, I have a situation where I'm adding more points later, and I am guaranteed to have some of those points *beyond* my extreme point. |
| 23:52 | < Vornucopia> | Fuck, vorn, you're a mathematician, you've worked in projective spaces. this should be easy. Make the triangle the entire plane by picking three convenient points at infinity. |
| 23:53 | < Vornucopia> | Okay! Problem over. |
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