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| 02:10 | <&McMartin> | Hmmm |
| 02:10 | <&McMartin> | The 68020 chip's branch predictor always predicts that branches are never taken |
| 02:11 | <&McMartin> | That seems like an odd choice compared to predicts "always taken". I'd assume most branch instructions are loopback operations. |
| 02:11 | <&McMartin> | But I guess that's for do-while loops, not while loops. |
| 04:13 | <&Derakon> | Fix a bug in the map generator, try to create a map, immediately fail, codify the failure into a test, fix the code so the test passes, repeat. |
| 04:14 | <&Derakon> | I've been in this loop for a long time now. -_- |
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| 04:24 | <&Derakon> | https://i.imgur.com/rGSFuaq.jpg |
| 04:25 | <&Derakon> | ^ My latest failure scenario. |
| 04:30 | <&McMartin> | Is that some kind of whiteboard software or an actual photographed whiteboard? |
| 04:30 | <&Derakon> | The latter. |
| 04:33 | <&Derakon> | ...I think I figured out what the logic failure is in this case, and it's gonna be painful to fix. |
| 04:33 | <&Derakon> | So, the two marked tiles in the bottom-right corner form a small "blob" of mutually-connected tiles -- you can get from any tile in the blob to any other tile. |
| 04:33 | <&Derakon> | So they share connectivity rules. |
| 04:34 | <&Derakon> | One of the things that the map generator does is ensure that every blob is able to reach and be reached by either all exits or no exits. |
| 04:34 | <&Derakon> | The reason we're failing to place a sector at the ? is because the one that would normally fit believes that it is not preserving connectivity for that blob -- it's not able to reach the bottom exit (E). |
| 04:35 | <&Derakon> | The blob has a route to the exit, but it involves routing through an un-allocated tile on the other side of the ?. |
| 04:35 | <&Derakon> | (Starting from the bottom-right corner, go up, up, left, down, left, down; un-allocated tiles are assumed to connect to everything, so that can connect to the ? as long as the ? has correct edges). |
| 04:36 | <&Derakon> | And I don't believe the map generator is correctly handling that kind of indirect connectivity. |
| 04:52 | <&Derakon> | Wrote up in more detail here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3832387&pagenumber=2#lastpost |
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| 05:55 | < Vornlicious> | HOYBAA |
| 05:57 | <&McMartin> | That subforum is under permanent HOYBAA. |
| 05:59 | < Vornlicious> | Aw |
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| 07:54 | <&McMartin> | https://i1.wp.com/bumbershootsoft.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hello_gb.png |
| 08:10 | < Vornlicious> | Woot |
| 08:24 | <&McMartin> | And, full article is live. https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2018/01/12/hello-world-on-the-original-game-boy/ |
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| 09:12 | < simon_> | :o |
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| 10:00 | | * TheWatcher eyes that |
| 10:06 | <@TheWatcher> | McMartin: what's the nop at the start of the header for? |
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| 12:02 | <@ErikMesoy> | I have been assigned to website testing today. The website I'm testing feels very much like a case of seeing but not understanding why websites have various common features. For example, there's a page for changing your password. It does not actually enforce the new password needing to be different from the old password. |
| 12:04 | <@ErikMesoy> | "Recommended for me" page is initially empty, says that there are no current entries here but I should check back as new widgets are added constantly. "My favorites" page is initially says exact same thing, but I really don't think it's supposed to work the same way. |
| 12:07 | <@ErikMesoy> | Various informational fields are mandatory on entry, but there's no sanity checking that they actually contain useful information; I can enter a backtick as my postal code when it should be four digits (which is Norwegian style, website elsewhere does require Norwegian-only data). |
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| 13:30 | | * TheWatcher EYES jenkins |
| 13:32 | <@TheWatcher> | Horay for storing timestamps as milliseconds since the epoch |
| 14:17 | <@ErikMesoy> | Someone really didn't think this through. Frontend users have a province multiselector for what Norwegian provinces they're interested in, with a convenience option of "All Norway" to save you having to tick all of them. Backend users are supposed to be limited to 1 province to search in unless they pay for premium service, but backend user selection uses the same list. |
| 14:18 | <@ErikMesoy> | Yes, I would like to search in the province of "All Norway"! |
| 14:33 | < Vorntastic> | Derp |
| 14:54 | < Vorntastic> | "all Norway" should be a js checkbox really |
| 14:54 | <@ErikMesoy> | Oh, hey, one field does have input sanitization: email address. And it has very thorough input sanitization that isn't fooled by me throwing in @ and calling it a day. |
| 14:55 | <@gnolam> | So it's a bad email check then. |
| 14:55 | <@ErikMesoy> | Pffft. |
| 14:58 | <@ErikMesoy> | Seriously, WTF at so much of this site design. Every other field is basically free text and accepts { as being my phone number, but the email address alone (AFAICT) tries really hard to make sure input is valid? |
| 14:59 | <@TheWatcher> | "I found a regex on stack overflow to validate email addresses!" |
| 15:01 | <@TheWatcher> | (hint: it doesn't) |
| 15:01 | <@ErikMesoy> | (hint: even if it does, it doesn't) |
| 15:05 | <@ErikMesoy> | Unread Messages: 1 (I click the message) Unread: 0 (I hit the in-page "Back to previous page" button) Unread: 1 |
| 15:05 | < Vorntastic> | Whups |
| 15:05 | <@TheWatcher> | Also, for some reason, today my fingers seem to think that I'm using the Scottish version of git. I keep trying to make a bransh |
| 15:06 | <@ErikMesoy> | I have accepted the *Browser* Back button doing this, it's calling up a cached state or something. I can dubiously accept webpages *calling* the Browser's back button. This button is not making such a call. It is creating a new entry in browsing history, with the previous state's information. WTF. |
| 15:10 | <@ErikMesoy> | Holy shit, a ~300-item dropdown menu showing ten items at a time and correspondingly tiny scrollbar lovingly polished with an in-place search bar, subcategory headers, ability to select up to three items from the list simultaneously, and an absolute resource hog that manages to spike 30-50% of my CPU. |
| 15:11 | <@ErikMesoy> | IT'S A DROPDOWN MENU, NOT CRYSIS |
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| 18:23 | <&McMartin> | TheWatcher: Jump instructions are only three bytes long, and I need to fill four there |
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| 19:51 | <@TheWatcher> | Aaah |
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| 20:16 | <&[R]> | So xdg-open has a bug where it can't handle URLs with # signs in them. |
| 20:17 | <&[R]> | So I just thought about what character I could use instead (as it fails due to sed 's#somethin#something#') |
| 20:17 | <&[R]> | $ echo test | sed 's e a g' |
| 20:17 | <&[R]> | I suspect someone is going to hit me for that |
| 20:27 | <&[R]> | [ x"$browser" != x"" ] |
| 20:27 | <&[R]> | Please let that be because -z is non-standard |
| 20:28 | <&[R]> | Well, only if POSIX is non-standard. |
| 21:25 | <&McMartin> | Belated: Isn't "git" itself a Scottishism? |
| 21:25 | <&McMartin> | Or is it All Norway^WBritain |
| 21:33 | <@ErikMesoy> | Why must you drag Norway into this, that's not even our word :V |
| 21:34 | <&McMartin> | The euphony, mostly |
| 21:51 | <@TheWatcher> | McMartin: a sassenach corruption of the Scottish 'get' |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | Aha |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | Also the [ x"$browser" != x"" ] thing is rampant in autoconf scripts |
| 21:53 | <&McMartin> | Because that's what happens on Unix when you blame the devs instead of the user when an OS upgrade breaks all their software |
| 21:53 | <&McMartin> | (or, I guess, in this case, 'when the software doesn't build for them') |
| 21:53 | <&[R]> | ? |
| 21:54 | <&McMartin> | "I can't build your software because it uses some shitty -z thing that doesn't exist on my system, and this is your fault" |
| 21:55 | <&[R]> | Ah |
| 21:55 | <&[R]> | Except it should work on all systems D: |
| 21:56 | <&McMartin> | Right, the traditional Unix response is "fix your shitty OS, the code is fine" |
| 21:56 | <&McMartin> | The only software ecosystem that actually rolls with "blame the software for third-party fuckups" is Microsoft's, where it's MS's fault if any OS upgrade breaks your half-assed business software written in three days in VB6 in 1997 |
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| 23:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: -z is in both GNU and POSIX, so I suspect `x"$foo" == x` is a holdover from some super ancient version of /bin/sh |
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