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| 05:16 | <&McMartin> | Woot, on the board! |
| 05:18 | < Vornlicious> | Oh right. I knew I forgot something |
| 05:19 | | * Vornlicious will have to do it when he gets home instead |
| 05:26 | <&McMartin> | Though I caught it exactly as it was turning and I still was the 99th to submit a solution. =P |
| 05:27 | < Vornlicious> | I was 7th for one of the ones last year. |
| 05:28 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I think I actually placed first once either last year or the year before |
| 05:28 | <&McMartin> | I had definitely made it onto the top 100 |
| 05:30 | <&McMartin> | I strongly suspect problem 3a has some kind of closed-form solution, but. |
| 05:31 | <&McMartin> | Brute-forcing it took six milliseconds. |
| 06:06 | <&McMartin> | https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/gtk3-aspect-corrected-image-scaling-with-cairo/ |
| 06:23 | < Vornlicious> | Six milliseconds? That's 6x as long as allowed! |
| 06:23 | < Vornlicious> | >:( |
| 07:01 | <&McMartin> | The simulating computer is way weaker than the one in the story. |
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| 15:03 | <~Vornicus> | hey it's something I know |
| 15:05 | <~Vornicus> | yes there is a closed form. |
| 15:30 | <~Vornicus> | there does not appear to be a closed form for b. |
| 15:31 | <@macdjord|slep> | Vornicus: Is the closed form based on the fact that each layer of the structure has in its bottom-right corner the square of the length of the sides? |
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| 15:31 | <~Vornicus> | macdjord|slep: it is. |
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| 16:02 | <~Vornicus> | fortunately with the closed form of the spiral the rest is relatively simple |
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| 18:33 | <&[R]> | TIL bc can work on different bases |
| 18:33 | <&[R]> | You can also set the output and input bases seperately. |
| 18:34 | <&[R]> | obase=16;ibase=16 to get hexidecimal math |
| 18:37 | <@Tamber> | Just remember to swap the output base as the first one, or you could get very weird things happening, iirc. |
| 18:37 | <&[R]> | Yup |
| 18:37 | <&[R]> | Or set them both at once |
| 18:37 | <&[R]> | ibase=obase=16 |
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| 19:50 | | * Degi installs linux on loop0 |
| 19:53 | < Degi> | O.o live ubuntu can run without the flash drive |
| 19:53 | < Degi> | And without a HDD, just in RAM |
| 19:54 | < Degi> | Ok, shutting down produces a lot of unable to read errors. |
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| 21:09 | <&[R]> | <Degi> O.o live ubuntu can run without the flash drive <-- that's how most liveCDs have worked for a while. |
| 21:09 | <&[R]> | LiveDVDs are slightly different |
| 21:16 | < Degi> | I was curious whether anything would happen when I simply unplug it but nothing happened. |
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| 22:54 | <@Alek> | yeah, those tend to be small enough to run reliably out of memory without poorly impacting running other programs. |
| 22:55 | <@Alek> | shutting down, they tend to want to save changed settings and stuff, on flash drives. so that's probably the reason yours had errors. |
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| 23:05 | < Degi> | I think those were read errors, as it was running live, ie deleting all changes when shutting down. |
| 23:06 | <@Alek> | hm. *shrugs* |
| 23:07 | <&[R]> | There are two methods of creating a "live" system |
| 23:07 | <&[R]> | First method: load everything into RAM. |
| 23:07 | <&[R]> | Simple, easy, and stops requiring the media. |
| 23:08 | <&[R]> | Second method: Use UnionFS or similar technology. This still uses a RAM disk, but reads on files that don't exist on the RAM disk are backed by other media (IE: the disk). |
| 23:09 | <&[R]> | Bit more complicated, but boots faster, doesn't require the entire disk to be loaded into RAM |
| 23:09 | <&[R]> | If you're getting read errors during shutdown of a live system |
| 23:09 | <&[R]> | I suspect it's the latter, as you clearly wouldn't have read the shutdown scripts at that point. |
| 23:10 | <&[R]> | And any file that you did read might have been unloaded from the file buffers |
| 23:13 | <&[R]> | There's also a third, very lazy way to do it: just have the media be the root system directly. |
| 23:13 | <&[R]> | Issues with that should be obvious, and you rely quite a bit on the kernel's file caching capabilities when you have slow root media (IE: CD/DVD) |
| 23:14 | <&[R]> | I am curious when LiveBDs will be coming out, if at all. |
| 23:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm guessing "never", since BD holds 25GB, while a 32GB USD stick costs $10, is smaller, is reusable, and will work on a much wider variety of systems, since everything has USB ports but only a tiny minority of systems have BD drives. |
| 23:17 | <&[R]> | Fair enough |
| 23:17 | <&[R]> | LiveCD/DVDs were a pain to make anyways |
| 23:22 | < Degi> | H |
| 23:22 | < Degi> | Hm |
| 23:22 | < Degi> | It didn't shut down properly, was stuck at the read errors screen |
| 23:22 | < Degi> | Probably failed to read the turn the computer off file. |
| 23:22 | <&[R]> | The halt binary probably |
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| 23:23 | < Degi_> | IRC really has connectivity issues |
| 23:23 | < Degi_> | Or my internet |
| 23:24 | <&[R]> | Just you |
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| 23:27 | <&[R]> | <savolla> oh okay I found a way guys. eval is working. it's syntax is: eval $command |
| 23:27 | <&[R]> | Cringe |
| 23:27 | <&[R]> | (Note: they were told to make a function or script instead) |
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