code logs -> 2017 -> Sat, 07 Oct 2017< code.20171006.log - code.20171008.log >
--- Log opened Sat Oct 07 00:00:29 2017
00:01
<&McMartin>
(DOSBOX is specifically only focused on getting old *games* to work, which means other software will only operate properly if it restricts itself to network or character-stream file operations, and it will only *excel* if it was trying to command early 1990s-era multimedia technologies)
00:02
<&McMartin>
Win2k was infamous for its lack of real compatibility with previous consumer versions of Windows, so I'm impressed that it's able to provide the necessary DOS-like environment.
00:04
<@himi>
It's more that although the code is available (and GPLed) it's not actually /useful/ since it requires a proprietary and expensive development environment - a different kind of "legacy" situation
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00:06 * Mahal derps.
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< Mahal>
I was thinking of FreeDOS, not DOSBOX.
00:06
< Mahal>
brain
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<&McMartin>
If for some reason you have a program that controls a Yamaha OPL2 chip in the usual way x86 machines did, though, DOSBOX is the best at it >_>
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06:34 * McMartin prototypes an algorithm in C, with a program of 8,408 bytes
06:34 * McMartin then implements it in assembler, in 35 bytes.
07:01
<&jeroud>
Every now and then I long for the sort of problem I can write asm code to solve.
07:01
<&jeroud>
Then I go and refactor pypy's JIT optimisations or something and come to my senses.
07:04
<&McMartin>
"Programming an embedded system that is at least 20 years old", it turns out~
07:08
<&jeroud>
I should probably clarify that refactoring pypy's JIT optimisations didn't directly expose me to any asm. It did expose me to a whole bunch stuff that operates on VM bytecode.
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08:58
< ToxicFrog>
McMartin: 2k came with NTVDM, the NT Virtual DOS Machine, which was specifically designed to run DOS business apps
08:59
< ToxicFrog>
It was quite unsuited for gaming and in the pre-dosbox days there were a number of grevious hacks to get it to, e.g., reliably support sound so that you could play System Shock in it
09:00
< ToxicFrog>
But for what it was written for it worked surprisingly well.
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09:39
<&McMartin>
Aha
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