| --- Log opened Sun May 07 00:00:57 2017 |
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| 00:27 | <&McMartin> | I can't stop pushing the doom at 11 button |
| 00:29 | <&McMartin> | ToxicFrog: This sounds either like a weird policy configuration or a minor bug in the home version |
| 00:29 | <&McMartin> | The last time I used a business configuration of Windows you needed your password to sudo. |
| 00:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | This is the default configuration of Windows 10 Professional. |
| 00:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | But I have never needed a password to sudo for as long as UAC has been implemented; it's just a popup window saying "allow <program> to change system configuration? [y/n]" |
| 00:36 | <&McMartin> | Interesting. I wonder if you have to turn that on through group policies or someting |
| 00:37 | <&McMartin> | OK. That can *definitely* be made to happen. |
| 00:37 | <&McMartin> | Because it totally was for all Windows machines I've used as part of a job, from XP through 8. |
| 00:37 | <&McMartin> | (I have not used Windows profesionally since 10's release) |
| 00:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | I haven't used windows for a job since |
| 00:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | 2005? |
| 00:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Somewhere around there |
| 00:38 | <&McMartin> | Through 2014 for me |
| 00:38 | <&McMartin> | I mean, that tracks what XP Pro and 7 Pro did for me on Astatine |
| 00:38 | <&McMartin> | So it's clearly the default for home-provisioned systems |
| 00:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | Did XP even have UAC? |
| 00:42 | <&McMartin> | No, but you did still have to reauthenticate to do certain operations if you were subject to a domain controller. |
| 00:42 | <&McMartin> | Using a dialog box that looked very like the UAC-with-login dialog box on Vista and 7. |
| 00:43 | <&McMartin> | XP's access control also was fundamentally broken, which was about a third of why Vista Broke Everything |
| 00:44 | | * McMartin increases the efficiency of his C64 render-and-update loop by 60% |
| 00:44 | <&McMartin> | That'll do |
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| 11:33 | < Jessikat> | I was writing a post about move semantics, and it seems I've devolved into writing a post about lvalues and rvalues |
| 11:35 | < Vornotron> | I imagine that shit is considerably more fraught than I keep expecting |
| 11:37 | < Jessikat> | I'm going to attempt to demystify it |
| 12:27 | <@ErikMesoy> | aaaagh |
| 12:28 | <@ErikMesoy> | when did "fraught" become uncoupled from "with ___", it grates |
| 12:29 | | * Jessikat is fraught over this |
| 12:31 | < Vornotron> | long as I've known it |
| 12:36 | <@ErikMesoy> | The original cliche is "fraught with danger" and generalized into "fraught with X" meaning there is a high degree of X present. "fraught" by itself would just be something like "filled". |
| 12:36 | <@ErikMesoy> | But presumably Vorn does not mean to say that lvalues and rvalues are very full. |
| 12:36 | < Vornotron> | full of many things. |
| 12:37 | <@ErikMesoy> | (it shares an etymology with "freight") |
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| 15:19 | <@mac> | ErikMesoy: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraught Definition 3: "causing or characterized by emotional distress or tension, uneasy; 'a fraught relationship' " |
| 15:38 | <@ErikMesoy> | mac: doesn't say when it happened, which is what I really wanted to know. did this spread recently or am I just out of the loop? |
| 15:45 | <@ErikMesoy> | Also, that seems to not match Vorn's usage either. |
| 20:08 | < Jessikat> | https://lambdashirehotpot.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/introduction-to-cpp-move-sema ntics/ |
| 20:09 | < Jessikat> | (please let me know if that's either wrong or impossible to follow :D) |
| 20:12 | < Jessikat> | (or if you read it and liked it, I suppose) |
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