| --- Log opened Wed Apr 19 00:00:59 2017 |
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| 02:06 | <@celticminstrel> | What's the best way to store passwords for a "remember my password" feature? |
| 02:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: more context? |
| 02:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | Like, are you talking password vault or password recovery? |
| 02:07 | <@celticminstrel> | Remembering the password so you don't have to re-enter it each time you log in. |
| 02:07 | <@celticminstrel> | So more like the former. |
| 02:30 | <~Vornicus> | celmin: wait, is this on the side of the, uh |
| 02:31 | <~Vornicus> | is this the "remember me" checkbox on an individual website, the "fill in my password" thing web browsers can do in general, or something else |
| 02:56 | <@celticminstrel> | Vornicus: "fill in my password" |
| 02:56 | <@celticminstrel> | At least, I think that's the intent. |
| 02:56 | <@celticminstrel> | Certainly the password is inserted into a text box... |
| 02:57 | <@celticminstrel> | So I think its exact value would need to be known? |
| 02:58 | <~Vornicus> | Certainly. |
| 02:59 | <@celticminstrel> | But it shouldn't be stored plaintext in a configuration file, either. |
| 02:59 | <~Vornicus> | typically a thing like keepass will encrypt its database though I'm not exactly sure how it does it. |
| 03:01 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, that makes sense, but... it raises the question of how to decide on a key. |
| 03:06 | <~Vornicus> | most vaults have hteir own password |
| 03:57 | <@celticminstrel> | I think OSX keychain uses your login password by default. |
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| 05:27 | | * McMartin actually does some C64 coding for the first time in a while. |
| 05:40 | <~Vornicus> | szio has made me ind of want to learn some assembly but that's like #15 on the "languages I should learn" list at this point honestly |
| 05:45 | <&McMartin> | I found a very nice whirlwind tour of the C64, actually |
| 05:46 | <&McMartin> | Including most of how its assembly language works |
| 05:46 | <&McMartin> | I don't think it's enough to actually do anything, but it's enough to get an idea of what *to* do |
| 05:46 | <&McMartin> | It also covers a bunch of weird graphical glitches that I handled in far greater detail over at Bumbershoot, but my stuff doesn't all fit into one hour. |
| 05:46 | <&McMartin> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsRRCnque2E |
| 05:46 | | * Vornicus notes that down |
| 05:47 | <&McMartin> | He also has an Ultimate Game Boy talk that I haven't watched yet but really should. |
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| 06:33 | <&McMartin> | Hmm. Looking pretty good. |
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| 09:35 | <@abudhabi> | How do I use combining characters? |
| 09:35 | <@abudhabi> | Like, I want to add a ring over o. |
| 09:35 | <@abudhabi> | *over a |
| 09:42 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, that has its own character, U00E5: å |
| 09:44 | <@TheWatcher> | For combining chars, you just have the base character followed by the combining char, so a follwoed by U030A |
| 09:46 | <@abudhabi> | I'm on a US keyboard, no silly characters. How do I add the modifier? I mean, I sometimes add them by accident, but I've never figured out how or why. |
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| 09:51 | <@TheWatcher> | try this: http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm |
| 09:54 | <@TheWatcher> | (In html, it's easier: http://fleet.starforge.co.uk/he.html ) |
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| 11:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | And if you have a compose key it's <compose><o><a> |
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| 11:56 | <@abudhabi> | ToxicFrog: Cool! What's the combo for ø? |
| 11:57 | <@Pi> | o and / |
| 11:58 | <@Pi> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key#Common_compose_combinations :D |
| 11:58 | <@abudhabi> | Cool. |
| 11:59 | | * Jessikat appears to be becoming the official keeper of our core types |
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| 13:16 | <@TheWatcher> | "Chief Custodian of the Core Types" sounds somehow even better~ |
| 14:01 | < Jessikat`> | :D |
| 14:01 | < Jessikat`> | Chief Custodian of the Core Classes |
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| 14:02 | <@TheWatcher> | It sounds like it should come with a Staff of Office. |
| 14:29 | < Jessikat> | And a hat. I want a hat. |
| 14:57 | <@Tamber> | :) |
| 14:58 | < RchrdB> | Jessikat, did you get suckered into that^W^W^W awarded that title for being the person being the post fastidiously correct about relevant C++ minutiae or something? :) |
| 14:59 | < RchrdB> | (which I'm not disparaging, it is IMHO an important skill to have on any team writing non-trivial C++!) |
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| 16:00 | < Jessikat> | RchrdB: I have it because I'm the one stupid enough to know the standard like the back of her hands and having unofficially maintained them for ~seven years :p |
| 16:00 | < RchrdB> | :) |
| 16:57 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. |
| 16:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Despite my adding presubmit checks to prevent this, some people are still using the feature that I went to great effort to deprecate last year. |
| 16:58 | | * ToxicFrog revs up the chainsaw of natural selection |
| 16:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Time for code using that feature to stop compiling at all, I think. |
| 17:30 | < RchrdB> | If it's deprecated, you put #warning's in? Someone lacks a code review step that includes "it has to compile with -Werror"? :/ |
| 17:41 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's a rat's nest of macros and I was too afraid to modify it to put the #warnings in, honestly |
| 17:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | I figured the whole thing where the version control system won't let you commit code using them would be sufficient until I had a chance to untangle them from test code and delete them completely. |
| 17:55 | <~Vornicus> | how are they still getting compileables with the uncommittable stuff in there |
| 18:07 | <@ErikMesoy> | local compiles? |
| 18:34 | < RchrdB> | ToxicFrog, ouch! fair enough. :) |
| 18:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: they appear to have found a way to commit it |
| 18:36 | <&McMartin> | I've only managed to get anything to compile with -Werror honestly if I go full NIH and also restrict myself to a single platform and toolchain. :-/ |
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| 20:22 | | * McMartin writes out some optimistic plans for things he accomplished today |
| 20:22 | <&McMartin> | > TEMPT FATE |
| 20:23 | < RchrdB> | I wrote a thing! http://carefully.understood.systems/blog-2017-04-19-bounded-log-queue.html |
| 20:25 | <&McMartin> | PERIL |
| 20:26 | < RchrdB> | Yes, that's the aesthetic. <3 |
| 20:27 | < RchrdB> | I'm going for "polite, understated and ostentatious" when describing problems. :) |
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