| --- Log opened Sun Apr 09 00:00:46 2017 |
| 00:08 | <&[R]> | Yeah that's what I meant |
| 00:29 | <@himi> | Yeah, that's a pretty powerful attack |
| 00:29 | | * himi has just not seen anyone sane using a single-file mail spool in a long long time |
| 00:29 | | * himi notes that using Exchange is not sane, so that isn't a valid counter-example |
| 00:30 | <@himi> | This is one reason why a lot of the AV stuff makes me cringe |
| 01:22 | < RchrdB> | You've seen sophail, right? |
| 01:24 | < RchrdB> | tl;dr AV products are written in unsafe programming languages, poorly https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/sophail.pdf |
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| 05:51 | <&[R]> | Is that the "AV product runs service-level node.js server that will run anything told to at service-level privs" one? |
| 06:06 | | * McMartin determines that RISC OS and C *really* do not get along, does a build of UQM for Raspbian instead, which works much better but still requires some shenaigans for reasons he's not clear on. |
| 06:07 | <&McMartin> | As long as I stick to framebuffer mode I can even use the expensive 2x scalers and I still peak at like 19% CPU usage. |
| 06:08 | <&[R]> | What's RISC OS' primary low level language then? |
| 06:08 | <&McMartin> | I guess I should rephrase that "C" to "GCC" |
| 06:08 | <&McMartin> | It's a different C suite that it expects |
| 06:09 | <&McMartin> | GCC insists on files still being named foo.c and foo.h |
| 06:09 | <&McMartin> | which is great, except for the part where, on RISC OS, . is the path separator |
| 06:09 | <&McMartin> | So the gcc port insists on all C files living in a directory named "c" and all header files living in one named "h" |
| 06:09 | <&McMartin> | Instead of swapping . and / wherever they appear, which is what literally everything else that has to interoperate with POSIX or Windows does. |
| 06:10 | <&McMartin> | Including emulators that use native host filesystems, which also then add the metadata after a comma in the filename, which works approximately perfectly for something that is usually considered impossible to get right =P |
| 06:11 | <&McMartin> | There's a crossdev kit as well |
| 06:11 | <&McMartin> | However, it has not escaped my notice that most of the stuff *built* with that crossdev kit doesn't fuckin' work |
| 06:12 | <&McMartin> | I'm not sure how much of that is because ARMv8 is more hardcore about things like alignment and not dereferencing pointers in the zero page |
| 06:12 | <&McMartin> | RISC OS's level of abstraction is somewhere between Win3.1 and Win98, and as such memory protection is handled more by convention than by actually using the ARM's TLBs, I think. |
| 06:13 | <&McMartin> | Now, if only I could work out why Raspbian's version of ld objects to our build script's placement of -lm *and only* -lm. |
| 06:14 | <&McMartin> | And also either only on Debian or only on ARM, because it sure doesn't happen on x86 Ubuntu. |
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| 13:42 | <@ErikMesoy> | My new widescreen is wider than I'd like for most purposes, and searching for advice turns up tips on how to change the resolution, which isn't what I want. How do I, and/or what is the *term* for, changing the display area to emulate a narrower screen if that's possible? So that the screen is like [320 unused column][1600x] instead of the current [1920x]. |
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| 13:48 | <~Vornicus> | Typically the way that's done is -- you change the resolution to a thing that's got the aspect ratio you want, and then set your monitor to not try to stretch the thing |
| 13:58 | | * ErikMesoy eventually finds button to alter the thing, and is confronted with the result of someone skipping UI/UX day. |
| 13:59 | <@ErikMesoy> | Dialog box with "Keep changes?" but the buttons are [Revert] and [Windows adjusted these settings to match your hardware capabilities] |
| 13:59 | <@ErikMesoy> | I *infer* the second one is supposed to be "OK" and the explanation belongs in the dialog box, not the button. WTF. |
| 13:59 | <@ErikMesoy> | ...it isn't |
| 13:59 | <@ErikMesoy> | both buttons revert |
| 14:00 | <~Vornicus> | your monitor may insist on a particular aspect without the "don't try to stretch" setting |
| 14:01 | <@ErikMesoy> | Wait, no, I spoke too soon. The [blah blah] button reverts, the [Revert] button *keeps changes*. |
| 14:01 | <@ErikMesoy> | Bad labeling on one, outright lie on the other |
| 14:02 | <@ErikMesoy> | Now I have changed the resolution from 1920x1080 to a nicer 1680x1050, because I can't pick custom resolution, which I am sympathetic to. |
| 14:03 | <@ErikMesoy> | There are now black bars on each side of the screen, so the horizontal is resized. But the vertical is stretched, no black bars at the top and bottom. |
| 14:04 | <@ErikMesoy> | I haven't even found a stretch setting yet, this was just its default behavior after altering resolution. THIS IS HOW YOU GET WARHAMMER. THIS IS HOW YOU GET FUCKING TECH-PRIESTS WORSHIPING MACHINE SPIRITS BECAUSE THE INTERNAL FUNCTION IS A MYSTERY. |
| 14:04 | <~Vornicus> | that means it's actually stretched both directions but it did so consistently. might look ugly 'cause you have a scaling of 36:35 |
| 14:06 | <@ErikMesoy> | If by "ugly" you mean "microblurred", yes, former crisp lines now smear slightly. |
| 14:06 | <@ErikMesoy> | They smear *both* horizontally and vertically though...? |
| 14:07 | <~Vornicus> | Yes. |
| 14:07 | <~Vornicus> | That is the correct thing for it to do, because it wants to keep the same aspect ratio. |
| 14:08 | <@ErikMesoy> | Well, as long as I don't play pixel art games, it should be fine. >_> |
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| --- Log opened Sun Apr 09 17:31:57 2017 |
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| 19:03 | <~Vornicus> | hooray unit tests they are my friends |
| 19:05 | < Jessikat> | :3 |
| 19:29 | <~Vornicus> | naps are even better friends though. |
| 19:49 | < Jessikat> | :D |
| 19:49 | <@abudhabi> | Testimonial: I took a nap today and have not regretted it. |
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