code logs -> 2016 -> Fri, 14 Oct 2016< code.20161013.log - code.20161015.log >
--- Log opened Fri Oct 14 00:00:49 2016
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 14 07:05:30 2016
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09:31
<@abudhabi>
Docker is just some fancypants package manager thingy, right?
09:43
<&[R]>
... no.
09:43
<&[R]>
It's similar to BSD Jails.
09:43
<@abudhabi>
A sandbox? A VM?
09:43
<&[R]>
Which are basically half-way between a chroot and a VM as I understand it.
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10:29
<@abudhabi>
Hm. I wonder if WinSCP supports going through an SSH tunnel.
10:37
<~Vornicus>
sftp is technically ftp done via ssh, so
10:40
<&[R]>
Not really
10:41
<&[R]>
Err, maybe depends how you interpret that I guess
10:42
<&[R]>
AIUI it's just a normal SSH session that uses FTP-mimic commands.
10:47
<@abudhabi>
I have a DMZ that I SSH into and SSH from there to my laptop.
10:48
<@abudhabi>
I solved the problem by simply putting the required stuff in the Dropbox that syncs on both.
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11:16 * Emmy grrrrs violently at windows.
11:18
<@abudhabi>
Windows cannot understand your cynical display of anger!
11:19
<@Emmy>
Apparently it's almost entirely impossible any more to choose how/when you want to update any more in w10
11:20
<@abudhabi>
Welcome to Windows.
11:22
<@Emmy>
Well, windows, welcome to godmode and GPedit.msc!
11:22
<@Emmy>
>:/
12:30
<&McMartin>
If you're good enough at windows to manage your own system's group policies locally, you know about half as much as you would need on Linux to get a configurable desktop experience~
12:30
<&McMartin>
I do wish they'd go back to the Win9x thing of putting all that stuff under a second-level control panel menu for centralized access though
12:31
<&McMartin>
Instead of having to know a set of commandline tool names that literally don't identify by name as executables
12:36
<&ToxicFrog>
[R], Vornicus: SFTP is file transfer using SSH's built in file transfer features; it has no relation to FTP. FTPS is FTP over SSL and as far as I know has been completely supplanted by SFTP. FTP over SSH tunneling is a different thing entirely and is probably possible, but hard to set up due to FTP's insistence on using separate data and control connections.
12:40
<@simon>
also, none of those are very efficient file transfer protocols.
12:42
<&ToxicFrog>
IME, SFTP gets pretty close to line speed if the CPU on each end can keep up with encryption.
12:42
<@simon>
don't they use one connection per file?
12:43
<@simon>
so when you're transferring 30 million files, that bites you in the ass.
12:43
<@simon>
also, SFTP doesn't allow partial resumes, does it?
12:44
<@simon>
so for massive file transfers (large size or large quantities), I don't see anything good out there except BitTorrent and rsync.
12:45
<@simon>
also, I'd really like various filesystem-specific optimizations in clients.
12:45 * simon has been migrating a lot of data at work and was annoyed by the quality of freely available solutions. (perhaps there are commercial products that excel.)
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15:21
<@Emmy>
McMartin: incidentally - i do know enough in linux to have a good desktop experience as well.
15:21
<@Emmy>
admittedly in debian/ubuntu/mint, but still :P
15:21
<@Emmy>
anyway
15:21
<@Emmy>
time to go
15:24
<@abudhabi>
Anyone here used Terraform?
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15:31
<@simon>
abudhabi, what is it?
15:32
<@abudhabi>
That's part of what I want to find out.
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15:33
<@abudhabi>
I think it's some form of versioning and deployment system.
15:33
<@abudhabi>
In this instanced, used with Amazon Web Services.
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16:01 * catadroid wonders how common it is to apply for programming jobs without any public portfolio
16:06
<@Tarinaky>
Fairly common I think.
16:07
<@Tarinaky>
Particularly if you're already employed elsewhere.
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21:33
<&McMartin>
Man, they really did call 16.10 "Yakkety Yak"
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23:18
<~Vornicus>
...nice
--- Log closed Sat Oct 15 00:00:32 2016
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