code logs -> 2016 -> Tue, 06 Sep 2016< code.20160905.log - code.20160907.log >
--- Log opened Tue Sep 06 00:00:12 2016
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05:24
< catadroid>
Hm
05:26 * Vornicus hatadroid
05:26 * catadroid skritch
05:44
< catadroid>
Sussman is my new coding hero
05:46
<~Vornicus>
hoorah
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06:43
< catadroid>
Elements of Programming might not actually be useless for being based on C++
06:52
<@Pi>
Yay for Sussman!
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10:07
<@abudhabi>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banner_blindness
10:12 * TheWatcher takes a guess before looking at the link
10:12
<@TheWatcher>
That's an effect that makes people unable to see the Hulk, right?
10:14
<@TheWatcher>
Bah, no.
10:20
<@abudhabi>
It's how you miss content that has relevant information because it looks like an advertisement (read: noise).
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11:59 * TheWatcher uuuughs
11:59
<@TheWatcher>
Reeeally don't want to press this launch button >.<
12:13
< catadroid>
PUSH THE BUTTON
12:16
<@TheWatcher>
Nuuu :(
12:20 * TheWatcher closes eyes, presses button
12:23
<@TheWatcher>
Well, no Earth-shattering kaboom so far....
12:41 * abudhabi does the sign of the cross sometimes when putting new stuff in production.
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13:00
<@gnolam>
TheWatcher: well, did both you and your partner insert your keys and turn them at the same time?
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13:07
<@TheWatcher>
Two-man rule is entirely too fancy for this place.
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14:35 * gnolam typoes, accidentally creates a button for Goat Statistics in the German translation.
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14:36
< catadroid>
XD
14:42
<@Emmy>
Joy of joys, holiday is over, back to work again! :)
14:47
< catadroid>
Huzzah?
14:51
<@Emmy>
yup. After 6w of mandatory vacation, i was actually looking forward to working. :D
15:06
< catadroid>
Yay
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15:54
<@Emmy>
time to go!
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20:43
<@TheWatcher>
https://twitter.com/ThePracticalDev/status/773181119361642497 >.>
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21:32 * gnolam gets the urge to violently murder vBulletin's authors.
21:33
<@gnolam>
Someone there is using fucking dashes with a US fucking date format.
21:34
<@gnolam>
Godfuckingdamnit. Why does the one true format (YYYY-MM-DD) use dashes instead of slashes? Because unlike slashes or dots, dashes are unambiguous.
21:34
<@gnolam>
RARAHRHGH
21:35
<&Derakon>
Do you mean that dashes are always associated with the YMD format?
21:36
<&Derakon>
Because I've never noticed that before. *shrug*
21:36
<&McMartin>
He would appear to have concrete evidence to the contrary, actually
21:36
<&Derakon>
Well, his complaint is Someone Is Doing It Wrong, so~
21:54
<@abudhabi>
gnolam: The way Stripes does it, it just parses the digits. Turns all other characters in spaces.
21:55
<@abudhabi>
So your YYYY MM DD format will work regardless of dashes or slashes.
21:55
<@abudhabi>
That's the sanest I've seen it done.
21:56
<@abudhabi>
Hm.
21:57
<@abudhabi>
Is there any way to funnel some sort of Windows remote desktop thingy through a Linux proxy?
21:58
<@abudhabi>
'Cause I've got a public-facing, SSH-enabled server. And a Windows machine on the same LAN, but without direct internet access, because that would be insane.
21:58
<@abudhabi>
How, if at all, would I go about getting remote desktop to the Windows machine from the internets?
22:01
<&McMartin>
Is your server also functioning as your router?
22:01
<&McMartin>
What you describe is, AIUI, the router's job, whichever machine the router may be
22:02
<&Derakon>
Yeah, set up port forwarding for remote desktop.
22:02
<@TheWatcher>
Or use a ssh tunnel
22:02
<&McMartin>
You basically just say "connections on port _____ go to port ______ on machine _____"
22:04
<@gnolam>
abudhabi: And then you're back to ordering, which is the root of the issue. The problem is their choice of separator /together/ with their choice of ordering, not their choice of separator itself. They could have used slashes, dots, dashes, asterisks, Man Levitating emojis, whatever. Just not dashes with any other ordering than year-month-day.
22:05
<@TheWatcher>
abudhabi: ssh -N abudhabi@server.name.com -L 3390:10.0.0.3:3389 then connect to localhost:3390 and the rdp connection gets tunnelled through the server to 10.0.0.3 port 3389
22:06
<&McMartin>
Oh, that's a nice trick
22:07
<&McMartin>
I haven't had cause to do that myself, but it's good to have handy
22:08
<&Derakon>
Huh, neat.
22:08
<@abudhabi>
McMartin: No, I've got a DMZ redirect to my server.
22:08
<&Derakon>
So ssh -N just opens a connection and leaves it open for local access?
22:09
<&McMartin>
-N is "do not execute a remote command", it seems
22:09
<&Derakon>
Oh, you need the -L as well.
22:09
<&Derakon>
To create the local port redirect.
22:09
<&McMartin>
Yeah
22:09
<@TheWatcher>
Yep
22:09
<@abudhabi>
TheWatcher: Cool, thanks!
22:10
<@abudhabi>
Now I just have to direct my roomie to install/enable Remote Desktop on the Windows machine. :V
22:10
<&McMartin>
And then disable it once he's done~
22:11
<@abudhabi>
I guess this method will not in any way make use of the fancy graphics card that every damn game requires to run?
22:11
<&Derakon>
You're trying to play videogames over remote desktop?
22:11
<@abudhabi>
Perennially.
22:11
<&Derakon>
I suspect that won't work terribly well.
22:11
<&McMartin>
Don't use RDP for that.
22:11
<&McMartin>
Literally, Use Steam For That
22:12
<&McMartin>
It is the best and most compatible current implementation.
22:12
<@abudhabi>
An acquaintance plays shipgirls via some sort of RDP, but that's not even 3D.
22:12
<@abudhabi>
McMartin: How?
22:12
<@abudhabi>
I mean, this game is via Steam and all.
22:12
<&Derakon>
Steam has a built-in streaming thing.
22:12
<@abudhabi>
That I want to play.
22:12
<&McMartin>
Be logged into the same account on the same LAN
22:13
<&McMartin>
Where the button previously said "play" it will now have a pulldown button where one option will be "STREAM FROM (machine name)"
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22:13
<&McMartin>
Choose that instead
22:13
<@abudhabi>
Sweet. But I'll need to tunnel it somehow, right?
22:13
<&McMartin>
I have been able to stream Cloudbuilt from an nVidia GTX750Ti Windows machine to an Intel HD4000 Linux machine
22:13
<@abudhabi>
I'm not on the same LAN.
22:13
<&McMartin>
Steam Just Makes It Work
22:13
<&McMartin>
Ah
22:13
<&McMartin>
Yeah, you'll need to look into the details of the "in-home streaming" feature
22:14
<&McMartin>
I'm sure there's a way to masquerade it
22:14
<&McMartin>
Failing that, if you both have nVidia cards, their tech for this is apparently the second best
22:14
<&McMartin>
But I don't know how to use that~
22:14
<@ErikMesoy>
Steam is pretty damn good at its stuff.
22:16
<&McMartin>
Meanwhile, from their FAQ: "Streaming uses UDP ports 27031 and 27036 and TCP ports 27036 and 27037."
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<@abudhabi>
Hm. Apparently there are some guides for out-of-home streaming.
22:18
<@abudhabi>
I'll see about that later, then.
22:28 * Vornicus thinks at collisions
22:36
<~Vornicus>
it's a huge mess right now, the way it works - it has to care about what it's colliding with, and whether it's touching something, and what precisely it's touching, and it does so with a very explicit, hard-coded path
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