| --- Log opened Mon May 02 00:00:17 2016 |
| 00:08 | < simon_> | has any of you looked at exercism.io? |
| 00:09 | < simon_> | it's a programming language learning platform. it has a command-line interface for fetching and submitting solutions, and a web interface for giving feedback to people. |
| 00:09 | <@TheWatcher> | ... and entirely too many bad puns about banishing demons?~ |
| 00:10 | < simon_> | I haven't seen one yet! |
| 00:11 | <@TheWatcher> | I am filled with woe and disappointment. |
| 00:11 | <@TheWatcher> | I will, however, make a note of looking at it |
| 00:14 | <~Vornicus> | I tried it out for a while. it was all right but I got kind of annoyed at the fact that I needed to do command prompt shit |
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| 00:23 | < simon_> | I made my mom a new website: http://shine-translation.dk/ |
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| 07:20 | < pjdelport> | simon_: I've used it |
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| 07:30 | < simon_> | pjdelport, what languages? |
| 07:31 | < pjdelport> | Haskell & Python, for me. |
| 07:31 | < pjdelport> | http://exercism.io/pjdelport |
| 07:31 | < pjdelport> | I've been inactive for a while, though. |
| 07:31 | < simon_> | pjdelport, ah. I looked briefly at F# and OCaml. got kind of stuck in both cases trying to make the test frameworks going, but solved a couple of easy ones. |
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| 13:11 | < abudhabi> | I hate encoding standards and want them to die. |
| 13:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. |
| 13:28 | < abudhabi> | Everything seemed to be working right, but then I had to write a tool that submits test requests, and that thing did not do UTF properly. |
| 13:28 | < abudhabi> | Digging into it, changing things up with the stuff it uses, I have now broken everything. |
| 13:28 | < abudhabi> | Just about nothing does UTF properly now. |
| 13:29 | < abudhabi> | I could just revert, but that would tell me nothing why it worked, why the test stuff didn't work, or why it doesn't work now. |
| 13:29 | < abudhabi> | Somewhere along the way, UTF-8 text appears to be interpreted as ANSI. |
| 13:30 | < abudhabi> | And then it stays that way in UTF-8 form, meaning UTF-8 encoded ANSI symbols. |
| 13:35 | < abudhabi> | It works again! |
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| 14:20 | < abudhabi> | Hm. Python doesn't require semicolons, but ignores them? |
| 14:22 | <@gnolam> | They can be used to put multiple statements on the same line, if you really feel you want to make your code less readable. |
| 15:57 | < simon_> | I'm refactoring some C# code. it basically has: if (!BlockingDownloader.TryDownloadUri(robotsTxtUri, out bytes)) { log message instead of printing it to UI; } |
| 15:58 | < simon_> | since the error handling happens at a depth that doesn't have access to UI, I thought it would be better if it would just throw an exception that I can catch at the appropriate level. |
| 15:59 | < simon_> | there is another pattern in the codebase, but I think it smells a little; it'd look like: if (BlockingDownloader.TryDownloadUri(robotsTxtUri, out bytes, out errorMessage)) { fun stuff; } else { bytes = null; errorMessage = blah; } |
| 15:59 | < simon_> | err |
| 16:00 | < simon_> | else { set this function's out variables to something based on errorMessage; } |
| 16:04 | < simon_> | eventually I've got: public bool RobotsTxtScraper.IsDownloadAllowed(Uri)... I guess this could have an extra 'out string errorMessage' parameter. |
| 16:04 | < simon_> | gosh, I suck at this object-oriented design. |
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| 19:04 | < pjdelport> | if (foo): #{ |
| 19:04 | < pjdelport> | this; |
| 19:04 | < pjdelport> | that; |
| 19:04 | < pjdelport> | #} |
| 19:04 | < pjdelport> | ^- valid Python :) |
| 19:09 | <~Vornicus> | yes but why would you want to |
| 19:09 | <@ErikMesoy> | So that your program compiles in as many languages as possible simultaneously? |
| 19:12 | <@Namegduf> | Has anyone made a compile-to-polyglot tool? |
| 19:12 | <@Namegduf> | Which takes input code in some language and spits out code that does the same thing in lots of languages? |
| 19:21 | <~Vornicus> | I mean -- that would literally be "compile to a particular bytecode, package with an interpreter for that" |
| 19:26 | <@Namegduf> | No, I mean |
| 19:26 | <@Namegduf> | Well, something like that |
| 19:26 | <@Namegduf> | It'd be funny |
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| 20:28 | <@celticminstrel> | There's one useful thing about having braces in some editors - double-clicking a brace selects to the matching brace. It can also be useful to jump to the opposite end of the function, if it's very large. I don't see how that technique allows it to be compilable in multiple languages though... |
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| 20:35 | <~Vornicus> | it doesn't. |
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| --- Log closed Tue May 03 00:00:33 2016 |