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| 19:50 | <@Wulfric> | How do I tell Mint that I wish to use the USB dongle headset instead of the built-in shit? |
| 19:52 | <@Tamber> | Right-click the volume icon and see if there's a thing to let you choose what audio device to use. |
| 19:53 | | Kindamoody|afk is now known as Kindamoody |
| 19:57 | <@Alek> | I had to do that after upgrading Aunt's lappy to win10. |
| 19:57 | <@Wulfric> | Hm. I had to turn off the other two sound devices, but it worked. |
| 19:57 | <@Alek> | for some reason it switched from speakers to headset. even though there was no headset connected. |
| 19:58 | <@Alek> | as in, made it default. |
| 19:58 | <@Alek> | so even though there wasn't a headset connected, sound went only to the jack. not to speakers. |
| 20:04 | <@Wulfric> | Hrm. The sound's kinda awful on playback. |
| 20:04 | <@Wulfric> | With lots of noise. |
| 20:05 | <@Wulfric> | Well, not 'lots' but there's a sort of white-noise-ish background sound accompanying normal sound. |
| 20:08 | | * Alek brainstorms |
| 20:08 | <@Alek> | could be a poorly shielded or dirty connection? |
| 20:08 | <@Alek> | or damaged wire shielding? |
| 20:09 | <@Wulfric> | On a USB thing? |
| 20:09 | <@Wulfric> | It certainly sounds like a shielding problem. |
| 20:20 | <@Wulfric> | Hrm. |
| 20:20 | <@Wulfric> | I'm still getting the buzzing noise when sound is produced. |
| 20:32 | <@Wulfric> | Fixed: Plugged it into the other USB port. |
| 20:32 | <@Wulfric> | I'm seriously considering getting myself a wizard costume and doing tech support in it. |
| 20:33 | <@Wulfric> | Because all of this is magic, and I'm just intoning various Litanies of Maintenance in hopes that the Machine Spirits listen. |
| 20:33 | <@froztbyte> | Wulfric: can I quote that elsewhere? |
| 20:34 | <@Wulfric> | Sure. |
| 20:34 | <@froztbyte> | ta |
| 20:35 | <@froztbyte> | Wulfric: http://qdb.codehash.net/quotes/458 |
| 20:35 | <@froztbyte> | if you ever need it. |
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| 21:00 | <@Wulfric> | There any way to determine the PID of a malfunctioning process? |
| 21:00 | <@Wulfric> | I have a weird leftover from a KDE mixer config window. |
| 21:14 | <@[R]> | List the processes (ps aux) |
| 21:15 | <@[R]> | If you want to kill something that has an X window though: xkill (WARNING: point and click) |
| 21:23 | <@Wulfric> | That's cool to know. |
| 21:23 | <@Wulfric> | I solved it by logging off and logging in again. |
| 22:00 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody[zZz] |
| 22:13 | <&McMartin> | Re: USB headsets: Many of them end up having devastating audio delays |
| 22:20 | <@Wulfric> | This one works fine now. |
| 22:20 | <@Wulfric> | I'm also somewhat impressed at how good the KDE mixer is. |
| 22:21 | <@Wulfric> | And how pulseaudio works in general. |
| 22:23 | <@Tamber> | pulseaudio still has its early reputation hanging over it, unfortunately. |
| 22:28 | <@[R]> | Like when it would have 30+ second delays on all audio? |
| 22:28 | <@[R]> | (Default setup, standard audio-jack speakers) |
| 22:30 | <@Tamber> | Yeah. It was made a default before it was really ready to be anything close to that, imo. |
| 22:31 | <&McMartin> | Pulseaudio was where I learned async programming |
| 22:32 | <@[R]> | It's pretty bad both times I tried it. Second time was with Fedora, worked great up until I stopped using GNOME... at which point I had to manually start it. Apparently it need some kind of arcane invocation to get it going, and refuses to start as root (despite priviledge dropping being a very well understood technique). |
| 22:32 | <&McMartin> | Protip: Don't learn async programming in a language without lambda expressions. >_< |
| 22:33 | <@[R]> | Eventually just found switching to ALSA (took me 3-5 hours) easier. |
| 22:33 | <@Tamber> | [R], I generally don't start as root, so I haven't noticed that latter issue; but no arcane invocations -- at least, these days. :) |
| 22:34 | <@Tamber> | (But I don't have real-time audio demands, so I don't have to do crazy things with it.) |
| 22:35 | <@[R]> | I simply wanted mplayer to produce audio with the laptops speakers D: |
| 22:35 | | * Tamber nods. |
| 22:36 | <@Tamber> | Well, not that it really helps any, but my startup invocation is just "pulseaudio --start" :p |
| 22:37 | <@Tamber> | Maybe it's better defaults, these days. |
| 22:37 | <@[R]> | Maybe, but all the configuration existed (as it was used by GNOME) |
| 22:37 | | * Wulfric is on Mint/XFCE4. |
| 22:38 | <@[R]> | I'm moving to CRUX still, getting started with ratpoison. |
| 22:38 | <@Tamber> | [R]: *nods* Perhaps it also helps that I have dbus running by the time it's started; but this is mere speculation. |
| 22:38 | <@Wulfric> | What I specifically meant to praise was the ability to switch between all the various options without having to restart anything. |
| 22:39 | <@[R]> | X requires dbus now. |
| 22:39 | <@[R]> | X ran fine. |
| 22:39 | <@Tamber> | Hm. |
| 22:39 | <@Tamber> | Weird, then~ |
| 22:39 | <@Wulfric> | Not any particular performance with applications, which was very varied. |
| 22:39 | <@Wulfric> | (I need Skype, Mumble and Chrome, at a minimum, to run right. Getting all three is a pain.) |
| 23:35 | <@Alek> | Wulfric: the key to IT isn't in knowing everything. It's in knowing to try various things and to look for answers, and where to look. So yeah, wizardry. |
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