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| 00:00 | < catalyst> | where do they live? |
| 00:00 | < catalyst> | presumably they will die soon, as well, spiders surely don't live that long |
| 00:00 | <@TheWatcher> | snrk |
| 00:01 | < catalyst> | h'anyway, I'm going to go lie in bed and attempt to sleep |
| 00:01 | <@TheWatcher> | G'night. |
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| 00:01 | | * McMartin actually doesn't recall the maps for where black widows and brown recluses are native. |
| 00:05 | <@gnolam> | http://i.imgur.com/vCYBz.jpg |
| 00:05 | <@Reiv> | In australia, the harmless spiders are the really big ones with enormous fangs~ |
| 00:06 | <@TheWatcher> | Black widows are basically "all the US" (there's some differences - there's distinct western, southern, and northern species, but they're pretty much everywhere. |
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| 00:11 | <@TheWatcher> | Brown recluses are apparently mostly in a big patch covering east texas, most of oklahoma, south illinois and indiana, arkansas, louisiana, mississippi, missouri, tennessee, kentucky, alabama |
| 00:12 | <@TheWatcher> | Hopefully not entirely covering them; I quite like parts of some of those states... |
| 00:13 | <@Reiv> | Those are the parts where they keep the spiderhordes at bay |
| 00:13 | <@Reiv> | The republican fear of brown people isn't to do with skin colour; it's to do with their fine coating of arachnids |
| 00:13 | <@Reiv> | ¬¬ |
| 00:14 | | * TheWatcher sets Reiv on fire |
| 00:16 | | * Reiv burns merrily, the spiders fleeing to the safety of TheWatchers trousers. |
| 00:18 | | * Alek douses Reiv in Chlorine Trifluoride. |
| 00:19 | | * Reiv 's *australian* spiders briefly consider fleeing, before electing to merely endure the mild discomfort. |
| 00:20 | <@Alek> | "Just to get the ball rolling, hereâs a few of the more unusual things chlorine trifluoride is known to set fire to on contact: glass, sand, asbestos, rust, concrete, people, pyrex, cloth, and the dreams of children" |
| 00:21 | <@celticminstrel> | Dreams aren't flammable, silly. :P |
| 00:22 | <@Alek> | that's how bullshit ClF3 is. |
| 00:23 | <@[R]> | That's the shit that reacts violently with nearly everything right? |
| 00:23 | <@[R]> | (When a room temperature) |
| 00:23 | <@TheWatcher> | Not everything, no |
| 00:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: yes. |
| 00:23 | <@Alek> | And I think there's even scarier versions in the Fluoride family. Although they tend to be more explosive than oxidative, but that may be just the speed of reaction instead. |
| 00:23 | <@[R]> | Same substance also has to be produced at high temps, but can be stored safely at low temps. |
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| 00:23 | <@TheWatcher> | you can store it in some metals, as it creates a self-healing coating on the inside |
| 00:23 | <@Reiv> | I like the one thta is willing to explode in a cool dark room. |
| 00:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: ...until it gets scraped, at which point you have a metal-fluorine fire. |
| 00:24 | <&McMartin> | Calling what flourine does "oxidative" is an insult to fluorine~ |
| 00:24 | <&McMartin> | Fluorine is *even more of that* than oxygen is. |
| 00:24 | <&McMartin> | Oxygen's a piker with its mere *fire*. |
| 00:24 | <@Reiv> | Oxygen should be flouridative |
| 00:24 | <@Reiv> | Which is to say, "Similar to flourine" |
| 00:24 | <@Alek> | it doesn't react with hydrogen, metals coated with fluorine gas and well-dried and extremely well-sealed, the inert gases, and polychlorotrifluoroethylene. |
| 00:24 | <@Alek> | uo, reiv, surely? |
| 00:25 | <@Reiv> | But get your top standards right, dudes |
| 00:25 | <@Reiv> | And flourine bloody well does react with the inert gases |
| 00:25 | <@Reiv> | Which one is it, xenon? |
| 00:25 | <@Alek> | TW: you can store it in those metals as long as they're treated with fluorine gas first, which is what creates the self-healing coating. |
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| 00:25 | <@Alek> | well, I'm going by what this source is saying right at the beginning. |
| 00:26 | | * McMartin pours TheWatcher a cup of spiders |
| 00:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | Quoth Clark: |
| 00:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water -- with which it reacts explosively. It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals -- |
| 00:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | steel, copper, aluminum, etc. -- |
| 00:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminum keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have |
| 00:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | always recommended a good pair of |
| 00:27 | <@Alek> | "There are a couple other useful applications though. For instance, itâs great for plasmaless cleaning of certain surfaces used in semiconductor manufacturing and it also works well at cleaning uranium residue off of the walls of nuclear power plants and removing built up oxides." |
| 00:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | running shoes. |
| 00:27 | <@TheWatcher> | Though if you want really scary shit, Fluoroantimonic acid |
| 00:27 | <@Tamber> | TF: I was just about to bring out part (the "hypergolic with [...] test engineers" in particular) of that quote; it's a good one. |
| 00:28 | <&McMartin> | That particular gag I first encountered in Star Control 2 |
| 00:28 | <&McMartin> | Subject is a Xenoteratomorph -- a big honkin' one, I might add. |
| 00:28 | <&McMartin> | It eats everything -- plants, animal tissue, wood |
| 00:28 | <&McMartin> | ceramics, plastics, asbestos fibers |
| 00:28 | <&McMartin> | several types of metal |
| 00:28 | <&McMartin> | chairs, a desk and about half of everything a security officer wears. |
| 00:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | Speaking of Ignition!, here's the work in progress re-PDFing of it: http://funkyhorror.ancilla.ca/toxicfrog/ignition.pdf |
| 00:29 | <@Alek> | .... this page also mentions a use of cyanoacrylate (super glue) and cotton or wool as a firestarter in emergency situations. |
| 00:29 | <@Tamber> | And it's a bloody good one at that. |
| 00:29 | <@Tamber> | Particularly when it's a tube of superglue you put in your back pocket, forgot about, sat on and burst. |
| 00:29 | <@Tamber> | Which results in delightfully jolly dances. |
| 00:31 | <@Tamber> | Unrelatedly, this codebase has seen some shit... |
| 00:31 | <@Tamber> | 'Machines on which this was tested': SunOS 4.1.3 on a Sun 4/SPARC, IRIX 5.3 on an IRIS, OSF/1 V3.2 on a DEC Alpha, and Linux 1.3.30 on Intel x86 |
| 00:31 | <@TheWatcher> | ... damn |
| 00:32 | <@Reiv> | That's... nontrivial |
| 00:32 | <@Tamber> | (The latter of which was released September 1995, which coincides with the dates in the changes file.) |
| 00:33 | <@Tamber> | It compiles just fine on a slightly more modern system with only, as far as I can see, warnings about unused arguments and a fair few comparisons between signed and unsigned integers. |
| 00:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | '/.k/.k/lp\' |
| 00:34 | <@Tamber> | (It has had changes made to the code since '95, I should mention.) |
| 00:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | ]p'||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 5||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\/\l/joi |
| 00:35 | <@Tamber> | But the "last modified" thingies on the github page are great to see. Plenty of "19 years ago"... |
| 00:36 | <@Syloq> | tf just had a stroke. |
| 00:36 | <@Alek> | One of the few substances known to be completely unreactive with chlorine trifluoride is ordinary candle wax. Wax is similarly unaffected by many of the gasses released by chlorine trifluoride when it reacts with other substances. |
| 00:38 | <@Tamber> | ... "Version 1.0.0, 5 February 1991 -- First public release" Damn. Daaaaamn. |
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| 02:05 | <~Vornicus> | That's an old fuckin' program |
| 02:48 | <&Derakon> | I think that's about when the first version of Angband came out. |
| 02:51 | <@Alek> | that late? :O |
| 02:51 | < anion> | Software old enough to drink |
| 02:51 | <&Derakon> | Alek: Moria was in the 80's. |
| 02:51 | <&Derakon> | Angband took a little longer. |
| 02:52 | <&Derakon> | Hm, Wikipedia says the first version came out in 1990. |
| 03:36 | <@Reiv> | hm |
| 03:37 | <@Reiv> | Should we really be running multiple columns of case-statement'd analytic functions, Barry? |
| 03:37 | <@Reiv> | Why yes other barry, I think we should! |
| 03:43 | <@Reiv> | But Barry, isn't this really three queries with different WHERE clauses? |
| 03:44 | <@Reiv> | Sure is, Other Barry, but this way I don't have to set up three data models, because cutting code is easier than using the bloody interface ¬¬ |
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| 23:46 | <@gnolam> | What the actual fuck, Ubuntu. Randomly forgetting the VPN password isn't enough for you, so now you have to go and somehow /fritter away the entire keyring/? |
| 23:46 | | * gnolam pokes Alek. |
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